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17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 7:45 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

and..humor me a little..how can an explosion of such intensity NOT affect its orbit?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/25/2007 7:47 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

well.., these same astronomers are already shocked by the explosion in its intensity...


perhaps they will be "mortified" when they find out this pup be a-swinging towards Earth/

whatcha think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 184760


But its not... seriously people will make ANY news story into a doomsday prediction at GLP.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/25/2007 7:49 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

and..humor me a little..how can an explosion of such intensity NOT affect its orbit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 184760


Well we would have noticed if its orbit changed and even if it did dramatically... why the hell would it come at us?

I'll say it again: IT'S NOT GOING TO COLLIDE WITH EARTH! Why do epople live their lives trying to convince people they shouldn't?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 7:51 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

and..humor me a little..how can an explosion of such intensity NOT affect its orbit?


Well we would have noticed if its orbit changed and even if it did dramatically... why the hell would it come at us?

I'll say it again: IT'S NOT GOING TO COLLIDE WITH EARTH! Why do epople live their lives trying to convince people they shouldn't?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381



this shit JUST HAPPENED...


NOBODY has any idea what will happen next...not YOU,,not the so-called professional astronomers.

believe me...they are freaking out as well.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 122589
10/25/2007 7:51 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

and..humor me a little..how can an explosion of such intensity NOT affect its orbit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 184760

We don't know the cause of the brightening, so it may be wrong to call it an explosion.

While outgassing in a comet's nucleus can act as little jets that can alter its movement, I know of no instance where that caused the change needed to have 17P/Holmes start coming directly toward us.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 122589
10/25/2007 7:53 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

and..humor me a little..how can an explosion of such intensity NOT affect its orbit?


Well we would have noticed if its orbit changed and even if it did dramatically... why the hell would it come at us?

I'll say it again: IT'S NOT GOING TO COLLIDE WITH EARTH! Why do epople live their lives trying to convince people they shouldn't?



this shit JUST HAPPENED...


NOBODY has any idea what will happen next...not YOU,,not the so-called professional astronomers.

believe me...they are freaking out as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 184760

I doubt they are freaking out to a GLP-level. Space is damn large, and there are many ways for that comet to go (if its orbit has been changed) that don't hit Earth.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317418
10/25/2007 7:58 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

We sure have gotten good at noticing things after they have missed ......now to spot the ones that won't miss !
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316369
10/25/2007 8:09 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

So much for that bright star being venus theory.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 8:10 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

so, the bottom line is NOBODY knows what will happen next...not you...

not the "professional astronomers?,

agreed?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/25/2007 8:15 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

so, the bottom line is NOBODY knows what will happen next...not you...

not the "professional astronomers?,

agreed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 184760


You don't know and neither do I but I'm being realistic about this, the "professional astronomers" haven't claimed its orbit has shifted and are more interested in seeing it while its bright... we at GLP are the only people who think we're going to get hit... and thats just because we are GLP...

This thread has to much pointless pessimism... we've gone over these kinds of threads in the past.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 291031
10/25/2007 8:15 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Somebody here suggested that this comet might impact Earth in 3 pieces a la October 31st 2007...this sounds quite plausible as I've read a few times today that Holmes might actually be breaking up...interesting
Telios
User ID: 130291
10/25/2007 8:16 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Goof balls, comets develop tail when they get inside Jupiter's orbit from waaaaay out there, the further off the greater charge it builds in relationship to the sun. This comet stays inside Jupiter thus doesnt travel radially enough away from the sun to develop enough charge to result in ion discharge aka tail.

Now as for the sudden brightening I'd say It was the Zeta mother ship, trailing this object, getting blown to smithereens by their Reptilian overlords for associating with the reputation annihilating person known as NANCY! AHahahahah!
"There is no separation, only miss-communication"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 8:17 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

have you ever heard the term "shocked" in the mainstream media concerning comets?

and what exactly IS a comet anyway?

hint: its not a "dirty snowball"
Telios
User ID: 130291
10/25/2007 8:18 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Somebody here suggested that this comet might impact Earth in 3 pieces a la October 31st 2007...this sounds quite plausible as I've read a few times today that Holmes might actually be breaking up...interesting
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 291031

A big enough explosion could send pieces our way... hiding
"There is no separation, only miss-communication"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 8:19 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Goof balls, comets develop tail when they get inside Jupiter's orbit from waaaaay out there, the further off the greater charge it builds in relationship to the sun. This comet stays inside Jupiter thus doesnt travel radially enough away from the sun to develop enough charge to result in ion discharge aka tail.

Now as for the sudden brightening I'd say It was the Zeta mother ship, trailing this object, getting blown to smithereens by their Reptilian overlords for associating with the reputation annihilating person known as NANCY! AHahahahah!
 Quoting: Telios



nce laughing off something about which you have no FUCKING CLUE why it happened (and is happening)

christ..where do they find these fuckheads?
Telios
User ID: 130291
10/25/2007 8:19 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

.......crap, forgot what I was going to type....
"There is no separation, only miss-communication"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 8:21 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

and one more thing...

any comet named HOLMES has to have an extremely long tail.

wouldn't you agree?

so where is it?..is it even a comet?

whatever a comet is...eh?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/25/2007 8:24 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

I'm not getting into any argument here over whether we're going to be hit by a comet or not because I've been involved in countless simular claims that had stuburn "prophets" and of course when nothing happened they vanished.

Basically, if there was any change we would have noticed by now, it happened 2 days ago and has been heavily watched. GLP is the only site whos mades this doom and gloom claim on Holmes.

I'm done, I'm out, continue if you like... you're wasting your time. Live life instead of trying to convince others its over.
Telios
User ID: 130291
10/25/2007 8:27 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Now as for the sudden brightening I'd say It was the Zeta mother ship, trailing this object, getting blown to smithereens by their Reptilian overlords for associating with the reputation annihilating person known as NANCY! AHahahahah!



nce laughing off something about which you have no FUCKING CLUE why it happened (and is happening)

christ..where do they find these fuckheads?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 184760

Sure, I'll laugh while you cower in fear and insult everyone else, and when we're dead I'll slap you on the back and say "Man what a ride!" which you'll promptly respond to with two middle fingers and a big FUCK YOOOOUUUUUU!!! At which point I will die a second death of unbridled hilarity.

Have a nice life!
"There is no separation, only miss-communication"
Telios
User ID: 130291
10/25/2007 8:30 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

nce laughing off something about which you have no FUCKING CLUE why it happened (and is happening)

christ..where do they find these fuckheads?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 184760

.....You're a secret Lieder lover aren't you!?!
"There is no separation, only miss-communication"
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 298518
10/25/2007 8:30 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

does anyone have the lastest reports???
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 245936
10/25/2007 8:30 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Sorry, but that pic of the comet in the OP's first post looks SOOOO FAKE. It's just too perfect. I'm an expert photoshop user and I think it's obvious that's a hoax.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 8:31 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

not cowering in fear at all.

you may continue to cower in ignorance if you like.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 8:32 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Sorry, but that pic of the comet in the OP's first post looks SOOOO FAKE. It's just too perfect. I'm an expert photoshop user and I think it's obvious that's a hoax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 245936



its not a hoax dumbass.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304493
10/25/2007 8:33 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

At the risk of injecting a little sanity into the discussion, take a look at the orbit diagram for 17P on the JPL/NASA website. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Play with the angles, orientation, dates all you like, pay special attention to the view where you are on the same plane as the ecliptic, (all the planets orbits are lined up together). You will see the this Comet is well above the plane of Earth's orbit and also moving well away from us. In fact, you will see it's own orbit lies well outside that of Mars'.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304493
10/25/2007 8:34 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Here's a link for your convenience.

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
10/25/2007 8:37 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

At the risk of injecting a little sanity into the discussion, take a look at the orbit diagram for 17P on the JPL/NASA website. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Play with the angles, orientation, dates all you like, pay special attention to the view where you are on the same plane as the ecliptic, (all the planets orbits are lined up together). You will see the this Comet is well above the plane of Earth's orbit and also moving well away from us. In fact, you will see it's own orbit lies well outside that of Mars'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 304493



that orbit was BEFORE the "explosion"

of which they are "shocked"

let your mind play with that bit of information.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 317405
10/25/2007 8:39 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

THE STRANGE STORY OF THE NASA CAVEMAN
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 199381
10/25/2007 8:43 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

They were shocked over how bright it was... there have been no suggestions of impact AT ALL, not even from lone observers. Its orbit it near jupiter... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay far away.

And the fact you keep mentioning this "shock" you clearly keep trying to bring in an impact scenario into this thread which has got to be the most unlikley scenario.

And I know for a fact 110% that will disagree despite giving us no reason to suggest why.
Z23
User ID: 317439
10/25/2007 8:44 PM
Re: 17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'Quote

Does anyone know what day October 29th correlates to on the Hebrew calendar?

The 17th day of the Second month, Chesvan, i.e. the same day that the waters broke forth upon the face of the earth during Noah's flood.

This is the commonly accepted day that the flood of Noah began. Hmmmmmm, as it was in the days of Noah......
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