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17P/Holmes - Enigma 'Comet'

 
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Nice Pic from Ottawa

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any image from hubble?
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So um Trinity. Since I have a gift enhanced membership to GLP. Did I also win a spot in your bunker if this thing decides to hit us? hiding
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So um Trinity. Since I have a gift enhanced membership to GLP. Did I also win a spot in your bunker if this thing decides to hit us? hiding
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You can sleep in my side of Trin's bunker. He gave me a whole corner. AND a blanket.
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So um Trinity. Since I have a gift enhanced membership to GLP. Did I also win a spot in your bunker if this thing decides to hit us? hiding



You can sleep in my side of Trin's bunker. He gave me a whole corner. AND a blanket.
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Awesome! ;)
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NASA Deep Impact Mission
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Any one else noticeing digital triggers today???? So far I woke at 5:55, I saw 11:11 and just noticed 2:22 whats the bet I see a 4:44--and no I dont look for them, just a observation
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i notice the triggers
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Having watched comet Holmes over last night and this night, the brightness seems to have stabilized between 2 and 2.5 magnitude, not as bright as Alpha Perseus, the brightest star in the Perseid constellation, right near the comet, at 1.8 magnitude, but certainly brighter than Delta Perseus, at 3.0 magnitude.

But from my observations, comet Holmes has most certainly increased in apparent size. From looking at it through my 10 x 50 binoculars, it seems dramatically bigger in diameter than 24 hours ago. Could a tail be forming? Right now with the naked eye it looks like a star, but with this rate of growth observed in binoculars, it could be forming the classic comet shape soon, or something else?

From all that I have read, it appears that this will become an unprecedented phenomenon in the recorded history of comets. Yeah, comets brighten in outbursts and outgassing, but nothing like this.

The only thing close, ominously, would probably be this very same comet 17P/Holmes in 1892, which caused quite a sensation back then.

I know from the orbit simulations provided by government agencies and scientists, that comet Holmes is reportedly 150 million miles away, and headed away from the center of our solar system.

But from my observations through binoculars, it is eerily chilling, about how it very well may look, as the doomsday comet that will inevitably destroy most all life on Earth hurtles inwards. It bursts upon the scene out of the blue. And within 24 hours of the first sighting of it's outburst, it's getting dramatically bigger in the sky. Just like as if it was a doomsday comet with Earth's name on it headed to destroy all civilization as we know it! For cryin' in the sink! But that's not the case, comet Holmes is reportedly way out there. But this unprecedented phenomenon, is likely how it would look, to the billions of people whose fate was inexorably sealed, as the doomsday comet relentlessly hurtles in.
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Maybe its not a comet at all .....maybe this "comet" that looks like a "star" is something completely different. Maybe its the Kingdom of God getting closer.

I always wondered how the Kingdom of God would look to astronomers as it come out of the sky.

All i know is........there will be an object seen in the sky that will not go away and it will get brighter and brighter. And it will change our world forever. That is the feeling/vision/message i have gotten my entire life. Since i was very very young i kept looking at the sky and expecting something to appear and i kept drawing pictures of stars over and over and over and over and over again. I was obsessed. Beyond obsessed. It ingrained itself deeply into my soul.

I felt for a large part of my life that i was so different for this (and i did not come from a religious family) ...no one talked about this ...at least not in my life they didnt. And along came the internet LOL .....perfect place for someone like me to voice what i have lived with my entire life.

It wasnt easy being me folks. ....it was not easy at all.

Once i had the vision ...i had to study it within and without and i started to understand why it was coming. It is really pretty easy to see why. Because the world needs this ...in the worst way imaginable ...there is too much hate and war and death here on Earth ...its a really bad world right now ...but it WILL get much much better as soon as the bright object from the sky makes global contact at the beginning at least in TALK ... acknowledgment ..awe inspiring ....stunning. After that .....well we shall see. I dont know whats beyond that really. I have theories but im not sure. All i know is everything up to the moment of the "star".

Oh and another thing ....as this "star" gets closer the land shall shake more and more and volcanos will pop off more and more and people will have a hard time with money ...lol ...money eewwww dirty dirty. Wait till you see why i said that lol ohhhh boy : )
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doesn't it sound really strange that this news first came out with Iranians observing it first?
I am not trying to be a woo woo but to think that never before a commet was linked to Iran (and there never was a reason to) yet with this one one of the first articles ever came out had to do with Iran. Add this to the fact that Bush is preparing to bomb ~Iran~, and Ahmadinejad warning Bush that the forces of universe will not allow his crulty to continue, does indeed make one wonder.
From astrological point of view- What is going on?
From spiritual view- What is going on?
Are all the prophecies about to come true?
Russians and the Iranians are claiming a wave of conciousness coming to earth. These two countries were the first to report this on a spiritual level. Lets think about this.
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doesn't it sound really strange that this news first came out with Iranians observing it first?
I am not trying to be a woo woo but to think that never before a commet was linked to Iran (and there never was a reason to) yet with this one one of the first articles ever came out had to do with Iran. Add this to the fact that Bush is preparing to bomb ~Iran~, and Ahmadinejad warning Bush that the forces of universe will not allow his crulty to continue, does indeed make one wonder.
From astrological point of view- What is going on?
From spiritual view- What is going on?
Are all the prophecies about to come true?
Russians and the Iranians are claiming a wave of conciousness coming to earth. These two countries were the first to report this on a spiritual level. Lets think about this.
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Want to hear another weird thing ?......When the star Mira (a variable nova type star) was first reported going nova guess where it was reported from ??

LOL ...Iran ....yup ..just over a year ago ..and here goes another weird thing ....Mira was suppose to get brighter again guess when .....late October of this year LOL

Go on find the major thread that was pinned here at GLP ...it is all there ...i hope someone finds it ...i cant remember exactly what the thread was called but i cant find it.
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i know. this has been most interesting. The American public is not paying attention to what is happening. If they research deep then they realise that all the woo woo about Iran is not justified, yet make you wonder why? Yes , we all know its about oil, etc but perhaps more than that it might be more to do with spiritual aspect of our lives and what is about to happen and more importantly which place will it rise from? Edgar Casey along with many many other seers claimed that the new rise and the new wave of conciousness will start from Russia and that region. The people of Iran are almost certain that a new era is begining. so much so that their president is able to stand against the most powerful nations in the world and clain "the time of bombs and bullying is officially over". Then the strangest news that for the first time last year and now with this commet, Iran of all the countries is linked to these two events. Iran has never ever before has been linked to any commets before and yet here they are, out of nowhere suddenly lined to these.
I for one do not think that this is their doom. I do not think that the signs in the sky and the link to Iran is indicating their destruction. I believe that somehow this comet may indeed bring a new wave of conciousness as both Iranians and Russians are claiming and this kinda seems to tie in well with their stance against the corrupt powers of TPTB.
The Rabbie who just died was also reported in the news who expects something or someone to be coming very very soon.
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i know. this has been most interesting. The American public is not paying attention to what is happening. If they research deep then they realise that all the woo woo about Iran is not justified, yet make you wonder why? Yes , we all know its about oil, etc but perhaps more than that it might be more to do with spiritual aspect of our lives and what is about to happen and more importantly which place will it rise from? Edgar Casey along with many many other seers claimed that the new rise and the new wave of conciousness will start from Russia and that region. The people of Iran are almost certain that a new era is begining. so much so that their president is able to stand against the most powerful nations in the world and clain "the time of bombs and bullying is officially over". Then the strangest news that for the first time last year and now with this commet, Iran of all the countries is linked to these two events. Iran has never ever before has been linked to any commets before and yet here they are, out of nowhere suddenly lined to these.
I for one do not think that this is their doom. I do not think that the signs in the sky and the link to Iran is indicating their destruction. I believe that somehow this comet may indeed bring a new wave of conciousness as both Iranians and Russians are claiming and this kinda seems to tie in well with their stance against the corrupt powers of TPTB.
The Rabbie who just died was also reported in the news who expects something or someone to be coming very very soon.
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Wowww the Iranian president really said this "the time of bombs and bullying is officially over" Now that is very very interesting. Even if he is lying ...just to say something like that proves something huge is underway. They knowledge is out there. And it is spreading. Very good. I knew it would though ...but knowing its going to happen and experiencing it is two very different things.

Things are looking up : ) but not for all. LOL oh well. They can get on the train to if they want. The soulllll train : )
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Grrr we have the typical November high fog situation here ...

No chance to see it.
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where you from? austria? are you an austrian person?
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all major sites down!1 yahoo saceweather space starrynight
skytelescope etc! can anyone confirm?
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Sorry, but that pic of the comet in the OP's first post looks SOOOO FAKE. It's just too perfect. I'm an expert photoshop user and I think it's obvious that's a hoax.
theres pics of it all over the place, op's pic. isnt a hoax, looks like all the other ones. i seen it tonight in the sky, it is real bright, and it sparkles alot, more than a star. i remember halebop, it was cool but nowhere near as bright as this one, and not as strange either. i don't think it's going to hit earth, but i do think it is a true omen of a great change that will come very soon. a good omen, only doom for the evil old world.
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hale bopp was MUCH BRIGHTER!
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Question to all the doomsayers: on what basis do you know Earth will be hit?

GLP is the only site where people think so and of course theres no mention of orbit change anywhere else since the comet itself got brighter, not because it changed direction. I've read multiple posts in this thread that clarifiy theres no problem, both through links and common sense but of course people have ignored them. Not debunked... just ignored... because it doesn't tie in with their ego that its all about Earth.

You people will make any news story into something on doomsday.
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This is awesome. God is clearly trying to tell us something.

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I 'aint seen shit.
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Maybe its not a comet at all .....maybe this "comet" that looks like a "star" is something completely different. Maybe its the Kingdom of God getting closer.

I always wondered how the Kingdom of God would look to astronomers as it come out of the sky.

All i know is........there will be an object seen in the sky that will not go away and it will get brighter and brighter. And it will change our world forever. That is the feeling/vision/message i have gotten my entire life. Since i was very very young i kept looking at the sky and expecting something to appear and i kept drawing pictures of stars over and over and over and over and over again. I was obsessed. Beyond obsessed. It ingrained itself deeply into my soul.
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When I was 7 or 8 I dreamt looking up and seeing a large chunk of rock up approaching in the sky. The rock had a level surface and below that level surface it had an irregular shape. And on that surface there was a building that looked like an ancient temple. And two visible (presumably very large) guards - or maybe statues depicting guards? - outside it. And I felt like there was someone of huge authority in that building - maybe God. I looked on then a lion came by my side but didn't attack.
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Anyone remember the probe they slammed into comet Tempel awhile ago?
[link to www.space.com]
[link to www.cnn.com]

The area where it hit pretty lightened up for days and caused a huge explosion, this hints that Holmes could have been hit by a relatively large object.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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Nice Pic from Ottawa

[link to mallincam.tripod.com]
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Great pic!
Looks like an emerging dust cloud to me, more evidence that it was hit by something.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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Anyone remember the probe they slammed into comet Tempel awhile ago?
[link to www.space.com]
[link to www.cnn.com]

The area where it hit pretty lightened up for days and caused a huge explosion, this hints that Holmes could have been hit by a relatively large object.
 Quoting: FreeFlow


Thats what I thought but lets be realistic people, even if its was thrown out of oribit what makes you think that it could hit a marble in a desert in such a small time from so far away? Jupiter I believe.

So many people on this thread piss me off with their constant doomsaying...
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Thats what I thought but lets be realistic people, even if its was thrown out of oribit what makes you think that it could hit a marble in a desert in such a small time from so far away?
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What were the chances of a space object hitting a pea sized comet like this one?
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Thats what I thought but lets be realistic people, even if its was thrown out of oribit what makes you think that it could hit a marble in a desert in such a small time from so far away? Jupiter I believe.

So many people on this thread piss me off with their constant doomsaying...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 199381

I never said it will hit earth, I was just freshing up memories about that NASA deep impact experiment with Tempel and that Holmes shows a similar hit effect albeit even much more spectacular.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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I never said it will hit earth, I was just freshing up memories about that NASA deep impact experiment with Tempel and that Holmes shows a similar hit effect albeit even much more spectacular.
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Oh I know you didn't, you're one of the few here who knows what hes talking about lol!

And 89446, I've got a better one: what are the chances of it getting hit then hitting something else in such a large space IE hit twice? Seriously 89446, I thought you were one of the smart ones but you have implid you're a predictable doomsayer to. If you're not good for you...
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NASA's Deep Impact Generates Its Own Spectacular Photo Flash
[link to www.nasa.gov]

Deep Impact Kicks Off Fourth of July With Deep Space Fireworks
[link to www.nasa.gov]
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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And 89446, I've got a better one: what are the chances of it getting hit then hitting something else in such a large space IE hit twice? Seriously 89446, I thought you were one of the smart ones but you have implid you're a predictable doomsayer to. If you're not good for you...
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I never said it would hit Earth, all I said is that using the current visuals, and presuming that being a comet it most likely acts like one (dust tail + ion tail), it seems to be moving towards our vantage point.

Imagine seeing an arrow while looking perpendicularly on its trajectory and then an arrow that comes straight at you.

Now compare this image:

[link to mallincam.tripod.com]

with the one on this page:

[link to www.windows.ucar.edu]

Unless I see a graphic image showing me its position compared to the Sun and Earth, then that's what I can say for now. And I'm not forcing anyone to believe me or saying it's absolutely perfectly IT.
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The chance of it hitting is like trying to shoot a passing bullet that has been fired.
In the long run, its like firing a machine gun at the same passing bullet...one might hit, but the chances are slim.
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Maybe its not a comet at all .....maybe this "comet" that looks like a "star" is something completely different. Maybe its the Kingdom of God getting closer.

I always wondered how the Kingdom of God would look to astronomers as it come out of the sky.

All i know is........there will be an object seen in the sky that will not go away and it will get brighter and brighter. And it will change our world forever. That is the feeling/vision/message i have gotten my entire life. Since i was very very young i kept looking at the sky and expecting something to appear and i kept drawing pictures of stars over and over and over and over and over again. I was obsessed. Beyond obsessed. It ingrained itself deeply into my soul.

I felt for a large part of my life that i was so different for this (and i did not come from a religious family) ...no one talked about this ...at least not in my life they didnt. And along came the internet LOL .....perfect place for someone like me to voice what i have lived with my entire life.

It wasnt easy being me folks. ....it was not easy at all.

Once i had the vision ...i had to study it within and without and i started to understand why it was coming. It is really pretty easy to see why. Because the world needs this ...in the worst way imaginable ...there is too much hate and war and death here on Earth ...its a really bad world right now ...but it WILL get much much better as soon as the bright object from the sky makes global contact at the beginning at least in TALK ... acknowledgment ..awe inspiring ....stunning. After that .....well we shall see. I dont know whats beyond that really. I have theories but im not sure. All i know is everything up to the moment of the "star".

Oh and another thing ....as this "star" gets closer the land shall shake more and more and volcanos will pop off more and more and people will have a hard time with money ...lol ...money eewwww dirty dirty. Wait till you see why i said that lol ohhhh boy : )
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