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Hopi Prophecy "That time is not far off. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask.

 
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While most stars travel along together around the disk of our Milky Way, Mira is charging through it. Because Mira is not moving with the "pack," it is moving much faster relative to the ambient gas in our section of the Milky Way. It is zipping along at 130 kilometers per second, or 291,000 miles per hour, relative to this gas.
Mira, also known as Mira A, is not alone in its travels through space. It has a distant companion star called Mira B that is thought to be the burnt-out, dead core of a star, called a white dwarf. Mira A and B circle around each other slowly, making one orbit about every 500 years.

Mira is also what's called a pulsating variable star. It dims and brightens by a factor of 1,500 every 332 days, and will become bright enough to see with the naked eye in mid-November 2007. Because it was the first variable star with a regular period ever discovered, other stars of this type are often referred to as "Miras."

This is an utterly new phenomenon to us, and we are still in the process of understanding the physics involved," said study team member Mark Seibert of the Carnegie Observatories in Pasadena, Calif.
Nothing of its kind has ever been observed around a star. Visible only in UV
It turns out that Mira is a true shooting star. Not a meteor breaking up in Earth's atmosphere, but a star that has been flung across the universe leaving a 13-light-year-long trail of debris and star particles. Astronomers were stunned when they observed this comet-like tail of debris.
Moving along at the speedy pace of 291,000 miles per hour, Mira has shed enough material to form over 3,000 Earth-sized planets. The left behind material could become the seeds for future planets or stars—this fact led some at NASA to dub this the 'Johnny Appleseed of the Cosmos'.
We can see the enormous trail of material deposited behind Mira as it hurls along between the stars. Like a boat travelling through water, a bow shock, or build up of gas, forms ahead of the star in the direction of its motion. Gas in the bow shock is heated and then mixes with the cool hydrogen gas in the wind that is blowing off Mira. This heated hydrogen gas then flows around behind the star, forming a turbulent wake.

Why does the trailing hydrogen gas glow in ultraviolet light? When it is heated, it transitions into a higher-energy state, which then loses energy by emitting ultraviolet light - a process known as fluorescence.


Hopi Prophecy (Spiritual visions)

"That time is not far off. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask. He represents a blue star, far off and yet invisible, which will make its appearance soon. The time is foretold by a song sung during the Wuwuchim ceremony.
Could Saquasohuh Kachina be Mira, the name for the "Appleseed Star". Could the internet screen be the square plaza, and for science to remove the mask of the Squasohuh Kachina in blue tones and giving her a name as Mira, is certainly the 9th Revelation of the Hopi, the arrival of the Red Kachina, as her colour is red.
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Hopis have a word for PLAZA?
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In Hopi, the word Kachina (Katsina or Qatsina) means literally "life bringer", and can be anything that exists in the natural world or cosmos. A Kachina can be anything from an element, to a quality, to a natural phenomenon, to a concept. Mira as a star could definately be perceived as a "life bringer."

The word Mira in Indian comes from Radha which originates from Lakshmi. Lakshmi is the Hindu goddess of wealth, light, wisdom, the lotus flower and fortune, and secondarily of luck, beauty, courage and fertility. She is the consort of Naravan (Supreme Being), She is believed as the Mother of the Universe.

The meaning of the lotus in relation to Shri-Lakshmi refers to purity and spiritual power. Rooted in the mud but blossoming above the water, completely uncontaminated by the mud, the lotus represents spiritual perfection and authority.
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I have heard there are many versions of this story ???

The Hopi were told that after a time White Men would come and take their land and try to lead the Hopi into evil ways. But in spite of all the pressures against them, the Hopi were told they must hold to their ancient religion and their land, though always without violence. If they succeeded, they were promised that their people and their land would be a centre from which the True Spirit would be reawakened.

It is said that after many years the elder brother might change the colour of his skin, but his hair will remain black. He will have the ability to write, and he will be the only person able to read the Tiponi. When he returns to find his younger brother, the Tiponi will be placed side by side to show all the world that they are true brothers. Then great judgment will take place, for the elder will help the younger brother to obtain real justice for all Indian brothers.

The transformed elder brother, the True White Brother, will wear a red cloak or a red cap, similar to the pattern on the back of a horned toad. He will bring no religion but his own, and will bring with him the Tiponi tablets. He will be all-powerful; none will be able to stand against him. He will come swiftly, and in one day gain control of this entire continent. It is said, "If he comes from the East, the destruction will not be so bad. But if he comes from the West, do not get up on your housetops to see because he will have no mercy." This is very similar to references made in the bible in relation to Judgement Day.

The True White Brother will bring with him two great, intelligent and powerful helpers, one of whom will have a sign of a swastika (a masculine symbol of purity), and the sign of the sun. The second great helper will have the sign of a celtic cross with red lines (representing female life blood) between the arms of the cross.

When the Great Purification is near, these helpers will shake the earth first for a short time in preparation. After they shake the earth two times more, they will be joined by the True White Brother, who will become one with them and bring the Purification Day to the world. All three will help the "younger brother" (the Hopi and other pure-hearted people) to make a better world. In the prophecies, the two helpers are designated by the Hopi word for "population," as if they were large groups of people.

The Hopi were warned that if these three great beings failed, terrible evil would befall the world and great numbers of people would be killed. However, it was said that they would succeed if enough Hopi remained true to the ancient spirit of their people. The True White Brother and his helpers will show the people of earth a great new life plan that will lead to everlasting life. The earth will become new and beautiful again, with an abundance of life and food. Those who are saved will share everything equally. All races will intermarry and speak one tongue and be a family.

Hopi prophecy states that World War III will be started by the people who first received the Light -- China, Palestine, India and Africa. When the war comes, the United States will be destroyed by "gourds of ashes" which will fall to the ground, boiling the rivers and burning the earth, where no grass will grow for many years, and causing a disease that no medicine can cure. This can only mean nuclear or atomic bombs; no other weapon causes such effects. Bomb shelters will be useless, for "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of Life. There is no shelter for evil. When the Saquahuh (blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask, the time of the great trial will be here.

The Hopi also have prophesied that "Turtle Island could turn over two or three times and the oceans could join hands and meet the sky." This seems to be a prophecy of a "pole shift" -- a flipping, of the planet on its axis. The Hopi call this imminent condition -- and that of society today -- "Koyaanisqatsi", which means "world out of balance...a state of life that calls for another way. "
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Hopis have a word for PLAZA?
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What is that word for Plaza ???
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The following extraordinary Hopi prophecy was first published in a mimeographed manuscript that circulated among several Methodist and Presbyterian churches in 1959. Some of the prophecies were published in 1963 by Frank Waters in The Book of the Hopi. The account begins by describing how, while driving along a desert highway one hot day in the summer of 1958, a minister named David Young stopped to offer a ride to an Indian elder, who accepted with a nod. After riding in silence for several minutes, the Indian said:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have travelled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying.

"Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.

"But White Feather shall not see it. I am old and dying. You -- perhaps will see it. In time, in time..."

The old Indian fell silent. They had arrived at his destination, and Reverend David Young stopped to let him out of the car. They never met again. Reverend Young died in 1976, so he did not live to see the further fulfilment of this remarkable prophecy.

The signs are interpreted as follows: The First Sign is of guns. The Second Sign is of the pioneers' covered wagons. The Third Sign is of longhorn cattle. The Fourth Sign describes the railroad tracks. The Fifth Sign is a clear image of our electric power and telephone lines. The Sixth Sign describes concrete highways and their mirage-producing effects. The Seventh Sign foretells of oil spills in the ocean. The Eighth Sign clearly indicates the "Hippy Movement" of the 1960s. The Ninth Sign was the U.S. Space Station Skylab, which fell to Earth in 1979. According to Australian eye-witnesses, it appeared to be burning blue.

Another Hopi prophecy warns that nothing should be brought back from the Moon -- obviously anticipating the Apollo 11 mission that returned with samples of lunar basalt. If this was done, the Hopi warned, the balance of natural and universal laws and forces would be disturbed, resulting in earthquakes, severe changes in weather patterns, and social unrest. All these things are happening today, though of course not necessarily because of Moon rocks.

The Hopi also predicted that when the "heart" of the Hopi land trust is dug up, great disturbances will develop in the balance of nature, for the Hopi holy land is the microcosmic image of the entire planet; any violations of nature in the Four Corners region will be reflected and amplified all over the Earth.

Hopi prophecy also tells us that there will be a mass migration of Indians northward from Mexico and Central and South America. The migration will be led by a 130-year old Indian named Etchata Etchana. The movement will come after the huge fire and explosion that will herald the advent of the True White Brother.

According to Hopi belief, the survivors of the Great Deluge thousands of years ago split up into four groups that moved north, south, east and west. Only one group completed their journey -- to the North Pole and back -- under the guidance of a brilliant "star" in which the Great Spirit Maasau travelled. When he landed, he drew a petroglyph on Second Mesa, showing a maiden (with the traditional "butterfly" hair arrangement) riding in a wingless, dome-shaped craft.

The Hopi say we are not in the 11th hour this is the hour.
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Mira is 420 Light years from earth.

[link to chandra.harvard.edu]

The separation of the X-rays from the giant star and the white dwarf was made possible by the superb angular resolution of Chandra, and the relative proximity of the star system, at about 420 light years from Earth. The stars in Mira AB are about twice as far apart as Pluto is from the Sun.
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when i found the gourd of ashes thing on the net it said..the eagle will pour the gourd of ashes on the land of the rising sun, and before the great spirit returns, the gourd of ashes must be poured back onto the eagle.
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when i found the gourd of ashes thing on the net it said..the eagle will pour the gourd of ashes on the land of the rising sun, and before the great spirit returns, the gourd of ashes must be poured back onto the eagle.
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Where did you find that????
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Mira is 420 Light years from earth.

[link to chandra.harvard.edu]

The separation of the X-rays from the giant star and the white dwarf was made possible by the superb angular resolution of Chandra, and the relative proximity of the star system, at about 420 light years from Earth. The stars in Mira AB are about twice as far apart as Pluto is from the Sun.
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Yes I was aware of that Thank you
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Hopi prophecy states that World War III will be started by the people who first received the Light -- China, Palestine, India and Africa. When the war comes, the United States will be destroyed by "gourds of ashes" which will fall to the ground, boiling the rivers and burning the earth, where no grass will grow for many years, and causing a disease that no medicine can cure. This can only mean nuclear or atomic bombs; no other weapon causes such effects. Bomb shelters will be useless, for "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of Life. There is no shelter for evil. When the Saquahuh (blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask, the time of the great trial will be here.


this is happening right now
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I don't mean to disrespect these people and their beliefs as long as they keep it to themselves, because they are begining to sound just like the jahova witnesses. They keep moving the goal post. We have all heard of the grandfather story and many others back in 1800 they said soon, then early 1900s some guy kept having dreams and said soon and then in 1930s, 40s, 50s, 80s, 90s, and they still claim it is going to be soon. Considering a few generations have passed since they started claiming soon, it won't be surprising if a few of them got a bit pissed and fed up by these grandfathers.
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Hopi prophecy states that World War III will be started by the people who first received the Light -- China, Palestine, India and Africa. When the war comes, the United States will be destroyed by "gourds of ashes" which will fall to the ground, boiling the rivers and burning the earth, where no grass will grow for many years, and causing a disease that no medicine can cure. This can only mean nuclear or atomic bombs; no other weapon causes such effects. Bomb shelters will be useless, for "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of Life. There is no shelter for evil. When the Saquahuh (blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask, the time of the great trial will be here.


this is happening right now
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I beg to differ. WW3 has already started and USA, Britain and France started it. They may have not dropped an atomic bomb and may not be the first to do so but they have certainly initiated the whole process of WW3. Hopis got it all wrong and no one will mention that Hopis claim that they will be the only ones who will survive and only the Hopi land will be the safe place. Now if any of you are true to these prophecies rather than lies then you would say the truth and admit that these guys claim that they have the only safe place in the world. This may all be true if it wasn't for the fact that every single old tribe in Africa, India and Asia claim exactly the same.
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Mira is 420 Light years from earth.

[link to chandra.harvard.edu]

The separation of the X-rays from the giant star and the white dwarf was made possible by the superb angular resolution of Chandra, and the relative proximity of the star system, at about 420 light years from Earth. The stars in Mira AB are about twice as far apart as Pluto is from the Sun.


Yes I was aware of that Thank you
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Destiny - then how can this be the blue star? Strikes me as too far away.
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I don't mean to disrespect these people and their beliefs as long as they keep it to themselves, because they are begining to sound just like the jahova witnesses. They keep moving the goal post. We have all heard of the grandfather story and many others back in 1800 they said soon, then early 1900s some guy kept having dreams and said soon and then in 1930s, 40s, 50s, 80s, 90s, and they still claim it is going to be soon. Considering a few generations have passed since they started claiming soon, it won't be surprising if a few of them got a bit pissed and fed up by these grandfathers.
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From the texts I have studied - the Hopi have never acknowledged the existence of the two helpers. The prophecy will not come into affect until these helpers appear. The Hopi have recently stated this is the Final hour - one would presume the Hopi are now acknowledging the presence of the two Hopi allies ????
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Hopi prophecy states that World War III will be started by the people who first received the Light -- China, Palestine, India and Africa. When the war comes, the United States will be destroyed by "gourds of ashes" which will fall to the ground, boiling the rivers and burning the earth, where no grass will grow for many years, and causing a disease that no medicine can cure. This can only mean nuclear or atomic bombs; no other weapon causes such effects. Bomb shelters will be useless, for "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of Life. There is no shelter for evil. When the Saquahuh (blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask, the time of the great trial will be here.


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I beg to differ. WW3 has already started and USA, Britain and France started it. They may have not dropped an atomic bomb and may not be the first to do so but they have certainly initiated the whole process of WW3. Hopis got it all wrong and no one will mention that Hopis claim that they will be the only ones who will survive and only the Hopi land will be the safe place. Now if any of you are true to these prophecies rather than lies then you would say the truth and admit that these guys claim that they have the only safe place in the world. This may all be true if it wasn't for the fact that every single old tribe in Africa, India and Asia claim exactly the same.
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Given all the military stuff in the 4 corners I can tell that area will be nuked hard in a nuclear war. So I doubt Hopi land is safe in a nuclear war.
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Destiny - then how can this be the blue star? Strikes me as too far away.
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It's just a sign
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Now if any of you are true to these prophecies rather than lies then you would say the truth and admit that these guys claim that they have the only safe place in the world. This may all be true if it wasn't for the fact that every single old tribe in Africa, India and Asia claim exactly the same.


"Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of Life. There is no shelter for evil.
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Mira is 420 Light years from earth.

[link to chandra.harvard.edu]

The separation of the X-rays from the giant star and the white dwarf was made possible by the superb angular resolution of Chandra, and the relative proximity of the star system, at about 420 light years from Earth. The stars in Mira AB are about twice as far apart as Pluto is from the Sun.


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Destiny - then how can this be the blue star? Strikes me as too far away.
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We were never given a distance ???? It was simply a vision. With modern technology millions of people can now view or read an article on various subjects. It is all about perception. I read their prophecy more as a revelation and for science Mira was just that. I might be wrong ??? The Hopi are now saying this is the hour and I don't think anyone in their right mind can dispute the fact our planet is in crisis regardless of prophecy. As you know the Hopi are not the only people that predicted the last days. Just about every religion on the planet speak about it.
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There are rumours worldwide the financial markets are going to crash - We have environmental concerns - Sanctions on Iran - Turkey going into Iraq - Minority groups around the world fighting to be heard - and yes I know the world has always been in a state of chaos - but I think our environmental concerns have truly pushed us over the brink - resources are dwindling - the drought here in Australia would have to be one of the worst in our recorded history and there is no sign of it abating. We are definately a world in trouble.
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Thank you so much for sharing that link with me. I have not read that version before. Too tired now but will read some more later. Thanks again :)))))
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There are rumours worldwide the financial markets are going to crash - We have environmental concerns - Sanctions on Iran - Turkey going into Iraq - Minority groups around the world fighting to be heard - and yes I know the world has always been in a state of chaos - but I think our environmental concerns have truly pushed us over the brink - resources are dwindling - the drought here in Australia would have to be one of the worst in our recorded history and there is no sign of it abating. We are definately a world in trouble.
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Destiny - I worked on Wall Street for a long time. A bad recession or even depression is possible in the US, which then fucks up world markets.

So we are teetering on the edge now. What I think sends us over the top is an attack on Iran and the resulting disruption of Persian Gulf Oil. 25% of the world's supply.

This will hurt economies in US, Europe, China, India, etc. Then recessions or depressions follow and then of course war.
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Ahhh; your PX. It would be cool if we could see it with the naked eye to match hieroglyphs left by the Egyptians depicting a sundisk type planet in the sky. That I think is some of the best evidence for a PX...
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There are rumours worldwide the financial markets are going to crash - We have environmental concerns - Sanctions on Iran - Turkey going into Iraq - Minority groups around the world fighting to be heard - and yes I know the world has always been in a state of chaos - but I think our environmental concerns have truly pushed us over the brink - resources are dwindling - the drought here in Australia would have to be one of the worst in our recorded history and there is no sign of it abating. We are definately a world in trouble.



Destiny - I worked on Wall Street for a long time. A bad recession or even depression is possible in the US, which then fucks up world markets.

So we are teetering on the edge now. What I think sends us over the top is an attack on Iran and the resulting disruption of Persian Gulf Oil. 25% of the world's supply.

This will hurt economies in US, Europe, China, India, etc. Then recessions or depressions follow and then of course war.
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I agree and this will be far worse than the last Great Depression - because we have so many more people - and so many of them living in the most abysmal conditions - can we turn it around - it would take a miracle. And it would take the efforts of many people. I just don't see that happening - people are too complacent. That is exactly why the world is in the mess it is today. I have read articles from many indigenous people - I believe their heart is good - I think they have great love and respect for the environment - something Europeans lost touch with centuries ago.
What lies behind us, and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
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Grandfathers Final Message
[link to thebeloveddisciple.org]

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I cannot thank you enough for this message. It is so important.
What lies behind us, and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
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Grandfathers Final Message
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I cannot thank you enough for this message. It is so important.
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Interesting views here...
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There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead...
Corinthians 15:40-42

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And the LORD God said: Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil...
Genesis 3: 22

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Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High...
Psalms 82:6

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Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live...
John 11:25
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Re: Hopi Prophecy "That time is not far off. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask.
the web site www.thebeloveddisciple.org changed my life. You need to take the time and read ALL of its content for the small things in life to be placed in their grander context. And to truely understand what is happening behind the scenes away from the public eye. Totally mindblowing stuff if real and I guess we are all going to find out soon enough if all of it truely reflects the real picture of things...
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Re: Hopi Prophecy "That time is not far off. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask.
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Mira is 420 Light years from earth.

[link to chandra.harvard.edu]

The separation of the X-rays from the giant star and the white dwarf was made possible by the superb angular resolution of Chandra, and the relative proximity of the star system, at about 420 light years from Earth. The stars in Mira AB are about twice as far apart as Pluto is from the Sun.


Yes I was aware of that Thank you



Destiny - then how can this be the blue star? Strikes me as too far away.
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"The Emergence to the future Fifth World has begun. It is being made by the humble people of little nations, tribes, and racial minorities. 'You can read this in the earth itself. Plant forms from previous worlds are beginning to spring up as seeds. This could start a new study of botany if people were wise enough to read them. The same kinds of seeds are being planted in the sky as stars. The same kinds of seeds are being planted in our hearts. All these are the same, depending how you look at them. That is what makes the Emergence to the next, Fifth World.'
"These comprise the nine most important prophecies of the Hopis, connected with the creation of the nine worlds: the three previous worlds on which we lived, the present Fourth World, the three future worlds we have yet to experience, and the world of Taiowa, the Creator, and his nephew, Sotuknang."

[From The Book of the Hopi by Frank Waters]
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Grandfathers Final Message
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I agreed with everything this site said except :

We believe the choice will come.
We believe that aliens will come and try to convince us to leave Her and go with them. They will come
when End Time is upon this World. We all know that End Time will be accompanied with devastation,
with tidal waves and earthquakes and volcanoes. We believe that when this is happening the aliens
will descend on our Earth Mother and use everything in their power to convince us that we should
leave. "Your planet is going to self-destruct! Come with us, we Live in a beautiful World where there is
only good health and peace; where there is no poverty, no hunger, no disease: indeed they will even
stoop so low as to call their world "Heaven" "The Fifth World" "Paradise" and other names of glory
which are used to describe Taalawsohu. But if we listen to them, if we go with them, we are assured of
*desolation. These kakyakyauna (terrible and ungodly) aliens are ancient (by our Earthly standards),
and some of them have very beautiful bodies, but how did they get their beautiful bodies? How long
can their bodies remain alive? Having stepped out of Nature and natural processes, having turned
their backs on evolution, how do they sustain their Lives? (Imooyi, you have heard me speak of this,
will you please explain why they *need us and what can become of us, and our children, if we go with
them.)

This cannot be the site of Grandfather Martin Gashweseoma who is one of the last remaining traditional elders of the Hopi tribe, located on the third mesa in northern Arizona??.

All articles I have read state the Hopi believe they will be saved by ships without wings????

On August 7, 1970, a spectacular UFO sighting was witnessed by dozens of people and photographed by Chuck Roberts of the Prescott (Arizona)"Courier". This sighting occurred after a "UFO calling" by Paul Solem and several Hopi Indians. This sighting was interpreted by some Hopis as being a partial fulfillment of a certain Hopi prophecy given by the Great Spirit Maasau and inscribed on Second Mesa, warning of the coming of Purification Day, when the true Hopi will be flown to other planets in "ships without wings."
Hopi prophecy also tells us that there will be a mass migration of Indians northward from Mexico and Central and South America. The migration will be led by a 130-year old Indian named Etchata Etchana. The movement will come after the huge fire and explosion that will herald the advent of the True White Brother.
According to Hopi belief, the survivors of the Great Deluge thousands of years ago split up into four groups that moved north, south, east and west. Only one group completed their journey -- to the North Pole and back -- under the guidance of a brilliant "star" in which the Great Spirit Maasau traveled. When he landed, he drew a petroglyph on Second Mesa, showing a maiden (with the traditional "butterfly" hair arrangement) riding in a wingless, dome-shaped craft. The petroglyph signified the coming Day of Purification when the true Hopi will fly to other planets in "ships without wings."
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In Hopi, the word Kachina (Katsina or Qatsina) means literally "life bringer", and can be anything that exists in the natural world or cosmos. A Kachina can be anything from an element, to a quality, to a natural phenomenon, to a concept. Mira as a star could definately be perceived as a "life bringer."

The word Mira in Indian comes from Radha which originates from Lakshmi. Lakshmi is the Hindu goddess of wealth, light, wisdom, the lotus flower and fortune, and secondarily of luck, beauty, courage and fertility. She is the consort of Naravan (Supreme Being), She is believed as the Mother of the Universe.

The meaning of the lotus in relation to Shri-Lakshmi refers to purity and spiritual power. Rooted in the mud but blossoming above the water, completely uncontaminated by the mud, the lotus represents spiritual perfection and authority.
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Interesting Destiny-Fate...


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