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THE COMET 17P/HOLMES WILL ONCE & FOR ALL EXPOSE ZETATALK AS A FRAUD

 
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Wondering why Nancy is being fairly quiet about this? Because
she's having difficulties fabricating lies about something that is very real.
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Wondering why Nancy is being fairly quiet about this? Because
she's having difficulties fabricating lies about something that is very real.
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What a dumbass.

This flag's for you OP. bsflag
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Thanks for the thread bump
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Look, Nancy already knows all about comet Holmes. The Zetas gave her all the details. She is waiting to tell us about it, just in case they turn out to be "white lies". :)
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Even her biggest brain-washed followers would have to admit that this comet has caught Nancy off-guard. What will she think of next?
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Don't you guys EVER let up? If you didn't have ZetaTalk.. would you even have a life?
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Look, Nancy already knows all about comet Holmes. The Zetas gave her all the details. She is waiting to tell us about it, just in case they turn out to be "white lies". :)
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If it has taken you this long to figure out the only Zeters are in Nancy's head, you just may a bit challenged!!
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Nancy addressed this comet in new zetatalk last Saturday. Zetatalk said something to the extent that the comet was appearing larger due to light rays passing through the dust cloud of PX and being bent in odd directions. I'm not sure what the intent was of the OP as to how comet Holmes will expose ZT.
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Nancy addressed this comet in new zetatalk last Saturday. Zetatalk said something to the extent that the comet was appearing larger due to light rays passing through the dust cloud of PX and being bent in odd directions.
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Now that's truly hilarious
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Nancy addressed this comet in new zetatalk last Saturday. Zetatalk said something to the extent that the comet was appearing larger due to light rays passing through the dust cloud of PX and being bent in odd directions. I'm not sure what the intent was of the OP as to how comet Holmes will expose ZT.
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Well, I for one will certainly be thinking of how embarrassed Nancy will feel in comet holmes really is planet X.
Could you imagine how horrible it would be to tell the world you are an expert on a planet that no one knows about and will cause mass destruction only to find yourself having denied that planet once it's visible to the naked eye?

I know if I were her.....it would make me very sad.

I also know I would need the love and support of everyone that would forgive me for such a mistake.

Maybe.....if this happens.....some of us could just call into the radio stations in her town and wish her the best?

Maybe.....just maybe...we could all step above our ego's and agree to forgive her for this mistake.

I tell you what.....just in case that happens....I'll start working on a "we forgive you Nancy" site, just to be waiting in the wings.

I think it's the least we could do for such a wonderful and giving lady such as Nancy Liederhozen.....er Lier....er, Lieder.

hf
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Gay...
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Comet Holmes is probably the Zetan Federation uncloaking when they announced that Nancy Lieder has never been in contact with them. They were so pissed at her lies about them that they risked uncloaking to clear their name.

Let's face it, the one thing Nancy Lieder never expected was there to be real Zetas. The second thing Nancy Lieder never expected was that the rea; Zetas would globally out her lies about them.

Yes Nancy, truth is a bitch and it's lighting up the night sky.
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Comet Holmes is probably the Zetan Federation uncloaking when they announced that Nancy Lieder has never been in contact with them. They were so pissed at her lies about them that they risked uncloaking to clear their name.

Let's face it, the one thing Nancy Lieder never expected was there to be real Zetas. The second thing Nancy Lieder never expected was that the rea; Zetas would globally out her lies about them.

Yes Nancy, truth is a bitch and it's lighting up the night sky.
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This is a very interesting post. What if ........
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Well, I for one will certainly be thinking of how embarrassed Nancy will feel in comet holmes really is planet X.
Could you imagine how horrible it would be to tell the world you are an expert on a planet that no one knows about and will cause mass destruction only to find yourself having denied that planet once it's visible to the naked eye?

hf
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Or, if it ISN'T Planet X but it's just the opposite of a doom and gloom Planet X in that it is a wonderful, uplifting LIGHT which is meant to raise the vibrations of this planet - which in itself will expose that there never was a Planet X to begin with.

I've always wondered about Nancy's last name Lieder - other than the "lie" in the beginning of it. No offense to Germans because it is no reflection on the peoples there - just the few Nazis who screw everything up. The fact it's a German name makes me wonder if she is a paid government shill - since our Amerikan government are all Nazis....She says she does have an implant.....
CONDEMNATION without INVESTIGATION is the HIGHEST form of IGNORANCE
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Planet X exists, and still does.. it is Venus.
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Planet X exists, and still does.. it is Venus.
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NOW, NOW---EVERYONE LETS GIVE A REST.....Nancy has a story to tell in all stories there of elements of truths and she means well....putting her down, does not cast a favorable light upon those who do this...
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NOW, NOW---EVERYONE LETS GIVE A REST.....Nancy has a story to tell in all stories there of elements of truths and she means well....putting her down, does not cast a favorable light upon those who do this...
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Not whilst she's milking money out of it. Are you saying that she shouldn't be accountable?
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Why would this particular bit of insanity prove Zetatalk as a Fraud? Why not all of the others? If planet X actually showed up the most surprised people in the world would be the ones who believed Nancy in the first place.
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Isn't Nancy and Zetatalk already considered a fraud? She claimed the return of Planet X in 2003 and shit happened
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NOW, NOW---EVERYONE LETS GIVE A REST.....Nancy has a story to tell in all stories there of elements of truths and she means well....putting her down, does not cast a favorable light upon those who do this...




Not whilst she's milking money out of it. Are you saying that she shouldn't be accountable?
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why not??? free country...why should she held to any standards at all???? AND by whose standards are u going to use???? afterall, she just might be right..
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Or, if it ISN'T Planet X but it's just the opposite of a doom and gloom Planet X in that it is a wonderful, uplifting LIGHT which is meant to raise the vibrations of this planet - which in itself will expose that there never was a Planet X to begin with.

I've always wondered about Nancy's last name Lieder - other than the "lie" in the beginning of it. No offense to Germans because it is no reflection on the peoples there - just the few Nazis who screw everything up. The fact it's a German name makes me wonder if she is a paid government shill - since our Amerikan government are all Nazis....She says she does have an implant.....


The more I pay attention to all of this, the more I think she works for the gov't. I think they need a big weird story to cover up the truth about all the horrible things they do that cause mass destruction: weather manipulation that causes tremendous storms (Katrina? Indonesian tsunami?), arson that causes huge wildfires (San Diego?), even nuclear explosions can be fobbed off as volcanic eruptions. However at the same time I do think that there are changes happening in the solar system, but I don't think the causes are what she says they are. She could be serving the gov't consciously (getting paid to say what they want her to) or unconsciously (crazy lady whose stories are convenient for them). Her science is constantly challenged, but for people who don't know much about astronomy it's difficult to understand or verify that kind of info, which makes it easier for her to hoax. But I also think she's gov't because she talks so much politics. She's a powerful anti-Bush administration propagandist. Think about it. There's no way to verify her info, but she is definitely changing minds. Now she's claiming Bush has clones?! Reaching, reaching. People who are desperate start the reaching. How long can she keep up the program? Seemingly forever because someone in the gov't is supporting her.

It could even be that she is spreading a lot of false info about the Bush people, and that her purpose is actually to create more division among us politically. TPTB want this -- it works to their advantage that we are not united. Here's MY prediction: I think many of the people in congress are only pretending to be opposition, and are actually working together behind the scenes to overthrow our gov't. It's already non-functional. And I even think that elections can be rigged both ways -- Nancy has said this too but I believe that. If Hillary wins the agenda will not change. We will stay in Iraq and keep trying to get the oil. It'll be just like 2006 all over again, with a painful period of frustration during which we all come to slowly realize that we've been snookered again.

All of the kind of stuff that's on this site -- all the doom warnings, etc. are a kind of crazy soup that's being thrown at us to confuse us all, while the perpetrators of these horrors continue to do their thing with impunity. Nobody will ever really know what to believe or what's really going on.
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why not??? free country...why should she held to any standards at all???? AND by whose standards are u going to use???? afterall, she just might be right..
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I doubt it.
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Zetas right again!

I just couldn't help it.
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Or, if it ISN'T Planet X but it's just the opposite of a doom and gloom Planet X in that it is a wonderful, uplifting LIGHT which is meant to raise the vibrations of this planet - which in itself will expose that there never was a Planet X to begin with.

I've always wondered about Nancy's last name Lieder - other than the "lie" in the beginning of it. No offense to Germans because it is no reflection on the peoples there - just the few Nazis who screw everything up. The fact it's a German name makes me wonder if she is a paid government shill - since our Amerikan government are all Nazis....She says she does have an implant.....


The more I pay attention to all of this, the more I think she works for the gov't. I think they need a big weird story to cover up the truth about all the horrible things they do that cause mass destruction: weather manipulation that causes tremendous storms (Katrina? Indonesian tsunami?), arson that causes huge wildfires (San Diego?), even nuclear explosions can be fobbed off as volcanic eruptions. However at the same time I do think that there are changes happening in the solar system, but I don't think the causes are what she says they are. She could be serving the gov't consciously (getting paid to say what they want her to) or unconsciously (crazy lady whose stories are convenient for them). Her science is constantly challenged, but for people who don't know much about astronomy it's difficult to understand or verify that kind of info, which makes it easier for her to hoax. But I also think she's gov't because she talks so much politics. She's a powerful anti-Bush administration propagandist. Think about it. There's no way to verify her info, but she is definitely changing minds. Now she's claiming Bush has clones?! Reaching, reaching. People who are desperate start the reaching. How long can she keep up the program? Seemingly forever because someone in the gov't is supporting her.

It could even be that she is spreading a lot of false info about the Bush people, and that her purpose is actually to create more division among us politically. TPTB want this -- it works to their advantage that we are not united. Here's MY prediction: I think many of the people in congress are only pretending to be opposition, and are actually working together behind the scenes to overthrow our gov't. It's already non-functional. And I even think that elections can be rigged both ways -- Nancy has said this too but I believe that. If Hillary wins the agenda will not change. We will stay in Iraq and keep trying to get the oil. It'll be just like 2006 all over again, with a painful period of frustration during which we all come to slowly realize that we've been snookered again.

All of the kind of stuff that's on this site -- all the doom warnings, etc. are a kind of crazy soup that's being thrown at us to confuse us all, while the perpetrators of these horrors continue to do their thing with impunity. Nobody will ever really know what to believe or what's really going on.
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I like your analysis. It's skeptical without attacking Nancy, which is uncommon around here. I personally think alot of what she says makes sense, especially since the government and some prominent astronomers have been talking about a Planet X since the early 80s.

I've also thought that Zetatalk could easily be a giant disinformation ploy, designed as you say, to cover up outrageous government acts or to keep us focused on the wrong thing. As if this criminal cabal isn't involved in enough criminal activity already, from water fluoridation to mercury almagam dental fillings to chemtrails to 9/11 to Iraq and of course the NWO and impending destruction of the dollar and U.S. economy, etc., etc., etc. There's a lot of BS to keep us focused elsewhere.

Another thing I've been thinking -- what are the chances that this benevolent race of aliens would spend so much time and effort trying to alert humanity to an impending global disaster? I guess it's possible, but seemingly unlikely. I think it would be like humans trying to convince the world's cattle or pigs living on farms that their lives will be a lot shorter than they think.

I've always wanted to ask Nancy what the Zeta's motivation is for providing this information about Planet X and since governments have been known to lie and deceive everyone about almost everything, why shouldn't we think this is just another one of their propaganda psy-ops campaigns? She's been so forthcoming and critical about this criminal BushCo administration, it's hard to imagine, but then again, the best propaganda is mostly truth mixed in with the big lie. Her responses to questions are so knowledgable, they'd have to be created by either a group of very smart people or some kind of extra-terrestrial intelligence.

That would actually be a good question for Nancy tomorrow -- how can she prove that she's really not a government operative or being manipulated by some kind of advanced government mind-control project? Once you realize the depths of deceit we've undergone and continue to receive, it's essential to remain skeptical about everything and everyone. Unfortunately, history as we know it is mostly lies and I think Nancy would readily agree. The bigger question is, how can we know or what can she do to prove that she's not part of these massive government lies?
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Wondering why Nancy is being fairly quiet about this? Because
she's having difficulties fabricating lies about something that is very real.
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I don't think you took this to the place of logic it needed to go. Allow me.

The flare of Comet Holmes took the earth by surprise. However, it would not have taken the real Zetas by surprise, if they were out there and observing the planet as Nancy would have the world believe. The fact that Nancy Lieder gave no advance "Zeta" prediction or warning about the Comet Holmes flare up is further evidence that Nancy Lieder has no advance information or insight into anything beyond her own imagination.

Add this to the failure of the "predicted" planet X not arriving in 2003 and you have a matched set of showing that Nancy Lieder is a liar pulling a hoax.
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Or, if it ISN'T Planet X but it's just the opposite of a doom and gloom Planet X in that it is a wonderful, uplifting LIGHT which is meant to raise the vibrations of this planet - which in itself will expose that there never was a Planet X to begin with.

I've always wondered about Nancy's last name Lieder - other than the "lie" in the beginning of it. No offense to Germans because it is no reflection on the peoples there - just the few Nazis who screw everything up. The fact it's a German name makes me wonder if she is a paid government shill - since our Amerikan government are all Nazis....She says she does have an implant.....


The more I pay attention to all of this, the more I think she works for the gov't. I think they need a big weird story to cover up the truth about all the horrible things they do that cause mass destruction: weather manipulation that causes tremendous storms (Katrina? Indonesian tsunami?), arson that causes huge wildfires (San Diego?), even nuclear explosions can be fobbed off as volcanic eruptions. However at the same time I do think that there are changes happening in the solar system, but I don't think the causes are what she says they are. She could be serving the gov't consciously (getting paid to say what they want her to) or unconsciously (crazy lady whose stories are convenient for them). Her science is constantly challenged, but for people who don't know much about astronomy it's difficult to understand or verify that kind of info, which makes it easier for her to hoax. But I also think she's gov't because she talks so much politics. She's a powerful anti-Bush administration propagandist. Think about it. There's no way to verify her info, but she is definitely changing minds. Now she's claiming Bush has clones?! Reaching, reaching. People who are desperate start the reaching. How long can she keep up the program? Seemingly forever because someone in the gov't is supporting her.

It could even be that she is spreading a lot of false info about the Bush people, and that her purpose is actually to create more division among us politically. TPTB want this -- it works to their advantage that we are not united. Here's MY prediction: I think many of the people in congress are only pretending to be opposition, and are actually working together behind the scenes to overthrow our gov't. It's already non-functional. And I even think that elections can be rigged both ways -- Nancy has said this too but I believe that. If Hillary wins the agenda will not change. We will stay in Iraq and keep trying to get the oil. It'll be just like 2006 all over again, with a painful period of frustration during which we all come to slowly realize that we've been snookered again.

All of the kind of stuff that's on this site -- all the doom warnings, etc. are a kind of crazy soup that's being thrown at us to confuse us all, while the perpetrators of these horrors continue to do their thing with impunity. Nobody will ever really know what to believe or what's really going on.

I like your analysis. It's skeptical without attacking Nancy, which is uncommon around here. I personally think alot of what she says makes sense, especially since the government and some prominent astronomers have been talking about a Planet X since the early 80s.

I've also thought that Zetatalk could easily be a giant disinformation ploy, designed as you say, to cover up outrageous government acts or to keep us focused on the wrong thing. As if this criminal cabal isn't involved in enough criminal activity already, from water fluoridation to mercury almagam dental fillings to chemtrails to 9/11 to Iraq and of course the NWO and impending destruction of the dollar and U.S. economy, etc., etc., etc. There's a lot of BS to keep us focused elsewhere.

Another thing I've been thinking -- what are the chances that this benevolent race of aliens would spend so much time and effort trying to alert humanity to an impending global disaster? I guess it's possible, but seemingly unlikely. I think it would be like humans trying to convince the world's cattle or pigs living on farms that their lives will be a lot shorter than they think.

I've always wanted to ask Nancy what the Zeta's motivation is for providing this information about Planet X and since governments have been known to lie and deceive everyone about almost everything, why shouldn't we think this is just another one of their propaganda psy-ops campaigns? She's been so forthcoming and critical about this criminal BushCo administration, it's hard to imagine, but then again, the best propaganda is mostly truth mixed in with the big lie. Her responses to questions are so knowledgable, they'd have to be created by either a group of very smart people or some kind of extra-terrestrial intelligence.

That would actually be a good question for Nancy tomorrow -- how can she prove that she's really not a government operative or being manipulated by some kind of advanced government mind-control project? Once you realize the depths of deceit we've undergone and continue to receive, it's essential to remain skeptical about everything and everyone. Unfortunately, history as we know it is mostly lies and I think Nancy would readily agree. The bigger question is, how can we know or what can she do to prove that she's not part of these massive government lies?
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Nancy Lieder is a con artist who has been involved in a self creted new age deception for years. It's a mistake to give Nancy Lieder's hoax an angle that acts to give her more importance than she really doesn't have. This is a mistake that people make with many hoaxers, spinning a conspiracy involving disinformation.

The only reason why Nancy Lieder and zetatalk claims exist is because Nancy Lieder chose to create and carry on with the hoax. You need look no further than the mental illness of Nancy Lieder. For something to be an actual disinfo plan implies that it perpetrate a hoax that has been created to be believed. Nancy Lieder's hoax isn't even remotely believable. Therefore, the disinfo can be reduced to what it actually is --- the lies of Nancy Lieder engaged in a news age deception..


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