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Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.

 
FreeFlow
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Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
No US budget for missile shield!

The US congress has positioned itself against the plans of Bush: The representatives(members of parliament) do not want to finance the rocket sign in East Europe.

The US congress will not approve the financing of the controversial plans of president Bush for a rocket sign in East Europe for the time being. " We not even have a basic arrangement between Poland and the United States ", said a representative(a member of parliament). Hence, no money would be planned for the program in still till the end of September, 2008 running financial year.

Bush had stressed only the last week once more that the shield is urgently required in his(its) view. His(Its) government estimates for it(in return) about 3.5 milliard dollars. The defensive system should be established in Poland and Czechia. Above all(Especially), Russia criticises the plans, however, sharply.

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11/01/2007 11:23 AM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Iranian missiles with biological warheads raining down on Europe will be cool.
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Iranian missiles with biological warheads raining down on Europe will be cool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12207

Only in your fantasy, that's clear fabricated false threat, why would they bomb those with whom they have the best economic interchange?
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11/01/2007 11:27 AM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
If this is the case, then it's the first time CONgress has done something right this entire year.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger

Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.


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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
If this is the case, then it's the first time CONgress has done something right this entire year.
 Quoting: Redheaded Stepchild

I am only afraid it's just a temporary delay ...
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11/01/2007 11:29 AM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
"Only in your fantasy, that's clear fabricated false threat, why would they bomb those with whom they have the best economic interchange?"

>>Because they have a motive much more paramount than money.
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11/01/2007 11:31 AM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Another way to put it... one of the longest treaties in modern history existed between Russia and Germany pre-WWII... that is, it existed until Germany broke the treaty...

Why would the Germans break the treaty with Russia... because the TREATY was not the objective they truly wanted... it was a political shell game.
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11/01/2007 11:32 AM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Iranian missiles with biological warheads raining down on Europe will be cool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12207

as an European i am not worried at slightest about iran but I am worried your crazy ass dictator will start WWIII
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11/01/2007 11:36 AM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Iran announced a space program as soon as it tested the first Shahab 3 in 1998. Iranian statements refer to several satellites, some locally made, and an indigenous space launcher. Ultimately, their space program aims to orbit spy satellites like Israel's "Ofek," by an Iranian satellite launcher from Iranian territory. A spy satellite of reasonable performance should weigh about 300 kg. Once Iran learns how to put 300 kg into earth orbit, it could adapt the satellite launcher into an ICBM that could drop more than 300 kg anywhere in the world, for instance, on Washington, D.C. The Iranians could be smart enough not to actually develop an ICBM: every time the Iranian satellite passed above the U.S., it would remind America of Iran's potential to strike it. Remember the impact on the U.S. of Russia's launch of "Sputnik"?

Iran's immediate goal is to deter the United States. Its long-term goal is clearly to project power beyond Iran, over Europe and over the United States. Iran is already projecting power over the entire Middle East. With its space program, Iran is bound to project power on a global scale.

Obviously, the Iranians are overstating their capabilities as part of their psychological warfare. But behind this overstatement is a real capability - not as much as they claim, but not insignificant either. They have some real capability there, they are investing a lot of money in it, and it is growing with time.

In 2006, the Iranian political leadership seems to have moved beyond the needs of self-defense and is now talking about global power projection. At a recent conference in Berlin, one of the deputies to Iran's foreign minister called upon the world to recognize that Islam comprises 25 percent of humanity and should occupy its rightful place in decision-making in world affairs and in the allocation of the world's resources. Statements like this are not about self-defense.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stated that Islam should roll back 300 years of Western ascendancy. He was speaking in the name of Islam, not in the name of Iran. At the same time, there is talk about the greatness of Iran, with its 6,000-year-old civilization. The Iranians are trying to retrieve the old glory of the empire and at the same time become the leaders of world Islam. The development of long-range missiles is a key element in building up Iran's power to assume such a leadership position.
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
You Americans would love to bomb another country and ruin it for WMDs which were never there?

Go figure you're shills for Israel's cause nothing else.
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
You Americans would love to bomb another country and ruin it for WMDs which were never there?

Go figure you're shills for Israel's cause nothing else.
 Quoting: FreeFlow


>>Umm, nobody mentioned Iraq.. YOU did.

Nobody mentioned Israel.. except in passing from a quoted article.

Try to keep your psychosis on track.
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
I don't want to see even more influence from a crazy USrael govt here in the EU, enough is enough already so I applaud everything which restricts this.

And don't tell me it's not meant against Russia, Iran has nothing to do with the place they choose, Poland pffffht.
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If you trust the RUSSKIES over the US.. then you are truly a fool.
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If you trust the RUSSKIES over the US.. then you are truly a fool.
 Quoting: Sinanju hates you 310032

Yes I do, call me whatever you want, the american govt is insane nowadays.
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
If you trust the RUSSKIES over the US.. then you are truly a fool.

Yes I do, call me whatever you want, the american govt is insane nowadays.
 Quoting: FreeFlow



No, child. What is happening is what we call BAD PRESS. If, god forbid, Hillary gets the nod in 2008 and continues ALL the same programs Bush has promoted... your tunes will change... because the people telling you what to think will change their tunes so fast it will make your head swim.
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
"Another way to put it... one of the longest treaties in modern history existed between Russia and Germany pre-WWII... that is, it existed until Germany broke the treaty..."

You obviously didn't major in history did you? Ooops, maybe I was misinterpreting your level of education.

For those who actually wish to know. Russia under the czar had treaties with England and France prior to WWI and was attacking Germany in WWI prior to the Bolshevik revolution. With Russia out of the picture due to internal conflict sponsored by Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. (one of the USA federal reserve banks), Germany was free to concentrate on France. France's and England's fall would have sunk J.P. Morgan (US Federal Reserve) who had supported them. Obviously the germans would not have honored the debts of either after conquest. So the Lusitania incident was manufactured by getting American passengers to ride on a ship that was known to be carrying ordinance. The German Embassy took out ads in newspapers advertising the Cunard Lines Lusitania passage to England. In their ad the germans announced that they would sink the Lusitania because the Lusitania was a participant in the war. The US War Department (precursor to the DoD) asked newspapers along the Atlantic coast to pull the german ad. We know this because the War Dept missed the ad placed in the Des Moines Register. Thus the Lusitania incident and the US entry into the war to save England and France was manufactured.

And the Fed banksters laughed all the way to the money trough. They had gotten all the Russian money out of the hands of the czar, and had Europe in debt for years. Later they would crash the American economy by shipping their gold to England - so that runs on banks would sink any potential competitors and lead to the great depression. Make everybody bankrupt and you can own it all, and they did.

So, Sinanju, don't go asserting that your fantasies are true.
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"So, Sinanju, don't go asserting that your fantasies are true."

>>WWII... obviously, READING COMPREHENSION was not YOUR forte.
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
I don't want to see even more influence from a crazy USrael govt here in the EU, enough is enough already so I applaud everything which restricts this.

And don't tell me it's not meant against Russia, Iran has nothing to do with the place they choose, Poland pffffht.
 Quoting: FreeFlow


Give credit where credit is due. As greatly as the people of Poland love the US, many Polish Americans warned their friends in Poland about what was happening. The twins were voted out by the people, and THEY were the ones who would have benefited from the deal, not the Polish people.
Poland was being used. The USA barely talks about Poland. What help would we have given them if Russia had attacked them? Would we have had Laura Bell come on and wave her finger and tell Russia to play nicely??? Thank God Poland wised up before it was too late.
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11/01/2007 12:15 PM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Yes I agree AC above, the article mentions: "We don't even have a basic arrangement between Poland and the United States"

The recently elected new Polish may have to do with the Congress' decision.
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11/01/2007 12:37 PM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Bush is an ASS. Wants money for his "wars", but nothing spent in this country for the good of all.
If He, or any other Prez wants to start a war..they should have to invoke a "WAR TAX" to pay for it instead of cutting back on infrastructure expenses. See how many wars get started then!!

Money should be denied because.

1. The USA does not need it.
2. The system won't work,
3. It will cost a lot more because of the graft required by the Bush cronies.
rant
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Yes I agree AC above, the article mentions: "We don't even have a basic arrangement between Poland and the United States"

The recently elected new Polish may have to do with the Congress' decision.
 Quoting: FreeFlow


You mean the American Congress will have to accept Poland's refusal.
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11/01/2007 01:09 PM
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Re: Congress refuses Bush the money for missile shield in Poland!.
Yes I agree AC above, the article mentions: "We don't even have a basic arrangement between Poland and the United States"

The recently elected new Polish may have to do with the Congress' decision.


You mean the American Congress will have to accept Poland's refusal.
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Read the link above your post.





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