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COPS DISCUSS "FREEMASONS" Wow, you've got to read these forum posts! Officer.Com Forum!!!

 
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[link to forums.officer.com]

Wow, real cops perspective on masonic infiltration into stuff.

"How much influence do the Freemasons have on your department and city/county/state government ?

All the chiefs in the history of my doepartent have been Freemasons. When I came on 25 years ago, the chief was actually insulted if you did not try to join a Masonic lodge. Almost all the supervisors, detectives, narcotics and traffic bureau people were Freemasons, and the "profane" were expected to trudge along as patrolmen for their entire careers. It seemed like about half the traffic stops you made, someone would be tappong a compass ring on the door as you approached

Things have changed since then. Although the present chief if a mason, there are many people in high and desirable positions who are not, and I don't think anybody careas about that any more. I dont know if it is that the department has changed in that regard, or in society in general

Are there any other organzations, etc, who have alot of influence in your department? "
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so can you get out of tickets if you have the compass ring?
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And when you go through it, you realize that cops are the biggest genius on this planet, and I am not joking, minds as sharp as a katana.
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Wow....great link ! What a hoot reading cops talking about masons. They play nice and respectful with each other. Not like glp. And...and a few of them let some mason secret slip out.
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Cops work hard.
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masons not a secret society. They have secrets, but not a secret society. Its well known leaders in society are members. That is a condition of membership: you have to be together enough, self-sufficient, to devote time to studies, self-mastery and control.

Psychology of this thread:
We see the word 'cops' and figure they see hidden stuff we'll never see. We presume 'security' and then 'secrecy', which goes with 'masons'. hmmmm
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masons not a secret society. They have secrets, but not a secret society. Its well known leaders in society are members. That is a condition of membership: you have to be together enough, self-sufficient, to devote time to studies, self-mastery and control.

Psychology of this thread:
We see the word 'cops' and figure they see hidden stuff we'll never see. We presume 'security' and then 'secrecy', which goes with 'masons'. hmmmm
 Quoting: Adamic Seed


The Masons sound like the "free ride" club. The best jobs, never get in trouble with the law, and probably lots of free stuff.
Make one wonder how many have literally gotten away with murder?
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Yes, it is interesting, thanks OP!



Quote: RedRaider911

As a mason myself, I find the anti-mason sites to be halarious. Most of the stuff on those sites are so far off base that it is amussing.

Quote: Hogboy

This is a typical reaction from a Freemason when the "secrets" of the lodge are presented to him by the "profane". You get the same reaction when beginning to interview a Crip or a Blood. They just snicker at you until you show them some "knowledge" and then they start spewing all kinds of stuff to you

Masons are not allowed to recruit, but if you ask one of them a question about it, they will ask you to join. Have you ever seen one of those bumper stickers '2B1Ask1" ?

A friend of mine (actually a FORMERfriend because he turned out to be a real dirtball) was trying to get me to join a while back. I asked him what Masons did at the lodge. I asked him "Do you guys shoot pool? Play Cards? He said I would have to join to find out, so I little reseach (pre internet days). Then I went back to work and gave all my Mason buddies the handshake and a bunch of the secret words. I thought they would get mad at me, but they just snickered uncomfortably and said "where did you here that crazy stuff"?....Then they REALLY pressured me to join.

It is true that is an aging organization, I think the average age is about 68.



Quote: VA Dutch

Hogboy,

I have seen those "2B1ASK1" stickers on license plate frames, but never knew what they meant. I thought it was something about wanting to be a skier. Sheesh! I learn something new every day, I guess.


My uncle also told me that the masonic organizations never "recruit" and don't plan to do so anytime soon.......although they are supposed to create an environment where aspiring members might happen to stumble into finding interest in it on their own. Maybe that is why they run the risk of dying out as their members pass on. Perhaps being a mason is not as prestigious as it once was. Not to besmirch the fine men who may be members of a particular lodge, but today we live in a different time.

Anyway, just be the best person you can be - regardless of any fraternal affiliation. I was a fraternity brother in college and I did learn a lot of things from it - although it really doesn't mean diddly squat once you are out in the "real world" and chugging along. Perhaps networking and 'referrals' are a big part of it. I know masons do tend to "look out for each other," and most will freely admit it; but they're no different from any other 'club' in that regard.

Hey, I remember some kids were in Demolay (sp?) when I was in high school. A few tried to get me to join, but they wanted me to pay money to sign up before they'd tell me what it was all about. Sorry, but no dice on that one. Mabye Demolay was a younger offshoot of adult freemasons. I don't know.

Quote: Hogboy

Yes, Demolay is a club for baby Masons and the Order of the Eastern Star is for the wives.

On a side note, the "Prince Hall" Lodges are for Blacks because the "AF&AM" (white) lodges are segregated. MLK, Jesse Jackson, Medggar Evers, etc are/were all "Prince Hall" Masons, yet they never complain about the segregation there. I have been told by members of the White Lodge that they do not consider the Black Masons to be authentic. That is wrong




Quote: VA Dutch

Hogboy, they are no longer 'segregated' by their charters or bylaws - at least according to my uncle. It used to be that way at one time, and the black masons did form their own lodges - many of which remain today. However, they are now integrated in many places. My uncle said that there are black men in his lodge (Ohio) and even some guys who are Jewish. While freemasons are predominately Christian, they only require a belief in a higher power/supreme being. I've never heard of a Jewish masonic-type outfit, aside from B'nai B'rith.

Maybe it is just a matter of black men being more comfortable among their own, I don't know. You'd have to ask one to be sure. Maybe it is kind of like going to church. We have overcome segregation in schools, universities, government and the workplace.....yet Sunday morning still finds people voluntarily segregating themselves.


Quote: Hogboy

Last I heard (about 15 years ago) there was only one AF&AM (white) lodge that was integrated and that was in Mass. I guess the other lodges are starting to catch up.
Their twisted thinking in the segregation matter was that candidates for admission must be "free born". Well, I guess that would qualify every black man born in this country since 1865, but only very recently did the lodges see it that way
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Bullshit
I've seen them recruit on tv in Australia. These guys on the forums are on the bottm rungs of the ladder. They don't know shit about what goes on behind the checkered door.
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Re: COPS DISCUSS "FREEMASONS" Wow, you've got to read these forum posts! Officer.Com Forum!!!
I love Mason threads.

People are easily manipulated but...

Most Masons are just nice people though some are type A bastards, most of which hate me for I blow them off like water off a duck.

I guess you could say I'm a passive type A winner lol.

Most people don't know it's the builderbugs etc...

Lots of friends of mine have been or are masons. Some beyond the top in both the UK and USA. Ive asked them about membership and they advise me "Are you kidding, your in the GD! Don't bother."

Low level masonry is harmless, high level leaves a door open, what do we do after the york or scottish?

You join a real order! Like GD or OTO.

If your thinking about Masonry, think about something higher.

LVX,

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If they say they don't try to recruit they lie! They tried to recruit my daughter and soninlaw. Tolk them to their lodge for a dinner telling they how wonderful it wound be to join. They could make friends and all that roit.
Then they asked me about it, I told them they had friends and could make all they want without a secret oath. Also it was about not making secret oath, it's against her faith.
Secrets, like that's weird can't tell your own family the secret, what fun is that.

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