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does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?

 
hardheadedwoman
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11/06/2007 02:34 PM
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does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
~here's a thought-maybe tptb desperately want to start a "revolution" soon, before the elections...they have the pieces in place and are ready. but they would lose ground if dr. paul wins. change through peaceful and lawful means. that would call for "new plans" by them and i think we know what those might be.

does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
~the overt "revolution" messages everywhere.


maybe...

art of war-

The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him.
- Sun Tzu

Hence that general is skillful in attack whose opponent does not know what to defend; and he is skillful in defense whose opponent does not know what to attack.
- Sun Tzu

In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu

We cannot enter into alliances until we are acquainted with the designs of our neighbors.
- Sun Tzu


To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces. He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared. He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War


The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.
- Sun Tzu

he victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
- Sun Tzu


All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

"The art of using troops is this:
......When ten to the enemy's one, surround him;
......When five times his strength, attack him;
......If double his strength, divide him;
......If equally matched you may engage him;
......If weaker numerically, be capable of withdrawing;
......And if in all respects unequal, be capable of eluding him,
..........for a small force is but booty for one more powerful."
- Sun Tzu, the Art Of War
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11/06/2007 02:35 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
That has been going on for a long time.
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11/06/2007 02:41 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
LOL, many give those rascally PTB far too much credence, dark sinister overlords moving the game pieces and watching for face ticks on the masses.

Truth is they are obvious, barely competent, can't run a war or even a decent spying program, they stumble over themselves and are transparent like clear moiuntain water.
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11/06/2007 02:45 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
LOL, many give those rascally PTB far too much credence, dark sinister overlords moving the game pieces and watching for face ticks on the masses.

Truth is they are obvious, barely competent, can't run a war or even a decent spying program, they stumble over themselves and are transparent like clear moiuntain water.
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~you are describing the talking heads not tptb.

and i am not saying that they will win.
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11/06/2007 02:47 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
you lost me at "if dr. paul wins..."
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11/06/2007 03:00 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
Baiting only works on people who have gumption.

You cannot simultaneously dumb people down, fatten them up, drug them, emasculate them, deracinate them, make them tolerant and and and then expect them to "rise up".

Whoever was in charge of running this cluster fuck employed too many competing strategies and will reap the whirlwind because of it.
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11/06/2007 03:05 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
you lost me at "if dr. paul wins..."
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Seems like you were already lost by yourself then. Its folks who cry about the rain while drownng in the ocean such as yourself that amaze me. You do not even consider why your wet , just moan about your being rained on.
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11/06/2007 03:09 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
they are watching th U.S. run around like headless chickens......


sittin around smoken opium and laughing at our ill efforts. what a pitty
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11/06/2007 03:11 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
I think a revolution would come about if the money system collapsed. Both rich and poor, would all become 'dirt' poor overnight.
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11/06/2007 03:12 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
~after reading your responses - maybe you're all right. self fulfilling prophecy. for some.
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11/06/2007 03:25 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
You cannot simultaneously dumb people down, fatten them up, drug them, emasculate them, deracinate them, make them tolerant and and and then expect them to "rise up".
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No Shit! Go back to sleep, everything is fine, your gov. loves you.
Swimming in a sea of fractals
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11/06/2007 03:28 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
you lost me at "if dr. paul wins..."



Seems like you were already lost by yourself then. Its folks who cry about the rain while drownng in the ocean such as yourself that amaze me. You do not even consider why your wet , just moan about your being rained on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 180483


You Ron Paul people are worse than Jesus freaks. You think he is a savior and the way, the truth and the light. My goodness, get a brain, get some balls, think for yourself! I think Paul is a closet fascist. And you are hypnotized by his rhetoric.
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11/06/2007 03:30 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
I outlined this in my book how methods were used to encourage a RACE war, and when the all out fighting and violence escalates to the point of intervention...the goverment can no longer be blamed for it's Marshal Law and restrictions aka loss of freedoms. They have a clean slate in which to rebuild their American Imperialism.
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11/06/2007 10:53 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
To the Thread Topic. Yes, I have notice a definite upturn in race baiting, religion baiting, gender baiting. Have also noticed a down turn or reduction in gay baiting. Merely a change in topics that the baiting is pointed towards.
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11/06/2007 11:06 PM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
Yes, there is a lot of "baiting" everywhere these days. For the most part, geared toward various types of social unrest and rioting, but more and more I'm seeing the "People, Rise Up!" theme being played on.

:jrkof:
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
--Justice William O. Douglas

"There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless."
--Niccolò Machiavelli

"I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep"
--Robert Frost

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11/07/2007 08:05 AM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
Hmmm...

In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu

This ties in nicely with what I've been thinking in terms of psychotronic warfare... a sort of reverse-baiting technique that results in a brain drain for the unsuspecting.

I'm thinking of a new tactic, instead of revealing my knowledge, constructs, etc, and "moves" I'm going to keep it all to myself. That way I will build power, for my own covert uses.

By "revealing" of course I mean use of the internet.
interior chamber meeting
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11/07/2007 08:27 AM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
Hmmm...

In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu

This ties in nicely with what I've been thinking in terms of psychotronic warfare... a sort of reverse-baiting technique that results in a brain drain for the unsuspecting.

I'm thinking of a new tactic, instead of revealing my knowledge, constructs, etc, and "moves" I'm going to keep it all to myself. That way I will build power, for my own covert uses.

By "revealing" of course I mean use of the internet.
interior chamber meeting
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
Hmmm...

In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu

This ties in nicely with what I've been thinking in terms of psychotronic warfare... a sort of reverse-baiting technique that results in a brain drain for the unsuspecting.

I'm thinking of a new tactic, instead of revealing my knowledge, constructs, etc, and "moves" I'm going to keep it all to myself. That way I will build power, for my own covert uses.

By "revealing" of course I mean use of the internet.
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11/07/2007 09:56 AM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
I outlined this in my book how methods were used to encourage a RACE war, and when the all out fighting and violence escalates to the point of intervention...the goverment can no longer be blamed for it's Marshal Law and restrictions aka loss of freedoms. They have a clean slate in which to rebuild their American Imperialism.
 Quoting: Sireen 316770


I hope you didnt call it "Marshall Law" in your book. That wouldnt look very professional.

It's "Martial Law".

Why does everyone misspell that here?
hardheadedwoman
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11/07/2007 10:06 AM
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
Hmmm...

In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them.
- Sun Tzu

This ties in nicely with what I've been thinking in terms of psychotronic warfare... a sort of reverse-baiting technique that results in a brain drain for the unsuspecting.

I'm thinking of a new tactic, instead of revealing my knowledge, constructs, etc, and "moves" I'm going to keep it all to myself. That way I will build power, for my own covert uses.

By "revealing" of course I mean use of the internet.
 Quoting: interior chamber meeting 322751


ohyeah

To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

~but...
The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.
- Sun Tzu
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Re: does anyone else notice alot of "baiting"?
I outlined this in my book how methods were used to encourage a RACE war, and when the all out fighting and violence escalates to the point of intervention...the goverment can no longer be blamed for it's Marshal Law and restrictions aka loss of freedoms. They have a clean slate in which to rebuild their American Imperialism.


I hope you didnt call it "Marshall Law" in your book. That wouldnt look very professional.

It's "Martial Law".

Why does everyone misspell that here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322979



lmao
I thought it was "Marital Law" nutkick





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