GETTING CHEMTRAILED THIS AM---PA,DE,NJ,MD--ANYONE ELSE

Killdamon, maybe you and the OP ought to cancel your walks today, stay inside, call in sick to work if you have a job, treat your hysteria with pills and nostrums, and just let a bunch of harmless clouds at thirty-five thousand feet run your life for you.

And don't forget to not step on a crack; you'll break your mother's back.

Okay. You're crazy.

Ok this should be a good one to debunk the debunkers theory of certain atmospheric conditions as being the reason for a "persistent contrail" . In the first pic we observe some chemtrails being sprayed and in from just below the tail end of the spray there is a plane at a lower elevation gradually ascending untill we see in the third pic it has passed above the elevation where the other planes are spraying. Why did that plane leave no contrail ? Hummm ? [link to i4.photobucket.com] -------- [link to i4.photobucket.com] ---- [link to i4.photobucket.com] .

Gee i guess i have to post each pic separately ! [link to i4.photobucket.com]

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Please look at this slideshow. Then tell me these are random contrails. Impossible.

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Under normal conditions it SHOULD be crazy to think that your own government is spraying you with chemical weapons. There's enough evidence to suggest otherwise. It's our government who is crazy.

Were not crazy, they said we are ok now !

12. Institutionalized

Sometimes I try to do things and it just doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
I get real frustrated and I try hard to do it and I take my time and it doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
It's like I concentrate real hard and it doesn't work out
Everything I do and everything I try never turns out
It's like I need time to figure these things out
But there's always someone there going

Hey Mike:
You know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately.
You know, maybe you should get away and maybe you should talk about it, maybe you'll feel a lot better

And I go:
No it's okay, you know I'll figure it out, just leave me alone I'll figure it out. You know I'll just work by myself.

And they go:
Well you know if you want to talk about it I'll be here you know and you'll probably feel a lot better if you talk about it.

And I go:
No I don't want to I'm okay, I'll figure it out myself and they just keep bugging me and they just keep bugging me and it builds up inside and it builds up inside.

So you're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes
You won't have any say
They'll brainwash you until you see their way.

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

I was in my room and I was just like staring at the wall thinking about everything
But then again I was thinking about nothing
And then my mom came in and I didn't even know she was there she called my name
And I didn't even hear it, and then she started screaming: MIKE! MIKE!
And I go:
What, what's the matter
And she goes:
What's the matter with you?
I go:
There's nothing-wrong mom.
And she goes:
Don't tell me that, you're on drugs!
And I go:
No mom I'm not on drugs I'm okay, I was just thinking you know, why don't you get me a Pepsi.
And she goes:
NO you're on drugs!
I go:
Mom I'm okay, I'm just thinking.
She goes:
No you're not thinking, you're on drugs! Normal people don't act that way!
I go:
Mom just give me a Pepsi please
All I want is a Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me
All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me.
Just a Pepsi.

They give you a white shirt with long sleeves
Tied around you're back, you're treated like thieves
Drug you up because they're lazy
It's too much work to help a crazy

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

I was sitting in my room and my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a chair and they sat down, they go:
Mike, we need to talk to you
And I go:
Okay what's the matter
They go:
Me and your mom have been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems,
You've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're gonna hurt somebody,
We're afraid you're gonna hurt yourself.
So we decided that it would be in your interest if we put you somewhere
Where you could get the help that you need.
And I go:
Wait, what do you mean, what are you talking about, we decided!?
My best interest?! How can you know what's my best interest is?
How can you say what my best interest is? What are you trying to say, I'm crazy?
When I went to your schools, I went to your churches,
I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy.

They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead

I'm not crazy - institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - institutionalized

They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

It doesn't matter I'm trying to get hit by a car anyway.

One of the problems with most of the posters at GLP is they have absolutely NO SENSE OF HUMOR. If you didn't recognize the humor in this post you are a friggen idiot.

The thin sheet material I was talking about is actually a type of plastic they use to keep water out of some of the structural steel joints.





That has little to do with anything.

Total B.S. I have an open mind and constantly research topics that interest me. But because I'm old I have more of an ability to recognize a canard when I see one.

USA is number one despite people like you trying to bring it down. There's a lot more to it than the narrow view you have of it.

I'm not going to talk about that in this thread, people tend to ignore my message anyway.

I DID NOT say the best, I said history will show he was ONE of the best.

Not everything, but chemtrails, at least what GLP woo-woos think they are is total B.S.


Yes, in a roundabout way. Happy, healthy, properous people guarentee the continued success and existance of the U.S. government. These same people generate the wealth that keeps the government going.




Wow, simply wow.

I had a lot of misguided conceptions in my youth, you tend to outgrow them. YOU still have a chance.

As well they should; contrails usually do not persist unless the air at 10,000 meters is saturated (i.e., a relative huidity of 100 percent or more). Saturated atmosphere usually means one can expect rain. In other words, persistent contrails don't cause rain; often they're a sign of it.


There have never been any studies correlating persistent contrails to a statistical uptick in reported illnesses.



Wrong. It is not "hot jet fuel" the jet fuel has been burned by the jet engine. saying that what comes out of a jet engine is "hot jet fuel" is like saying what comes out of your car's exhaust pipe is sprayed gasoline.

What does come out of the aircraft engine is minute amounts of combustion byproducts (less thatn one percent) with the remainder being water vapor that was sucked into the aircraft's jet engines as it operates.



The proper term is "sublime".



Again, ice crystals at those temperatures (typically less than minus 40 degrees) do not melt; they sublime, which means they go directly from a solid to a gaseous state, just like dry ice (frozen CO2) does at room temperatures.

If you do nut understand basic physics of state-change, what makes you think you're qualified to lecture us on "chem-trails"?

And the difference between your breath in winter and exhaust coming from a jet aircraft is that the jet is flying where the temperatures are typically around -40 degrees and the relative humidity is 100% or higher. It is those conditions which cause the ice crystals not to sublime and the contrail to persist. If you were breathing your breath out in a supersaturated atmosphere at minus 40 degrees or lower, it would persist, too.



There have been no tests -- none -- in Ontario or anywhere else that show any correlation whatsoever between contrails (persistent or not) and high levels of aluminum, barium, or anywhere else.

No "chem-trail" devotee has ever come up with any sort of documented evidence of this kind.

All persistant contrails.

I suggest you look at a real time map showing all the airliner flights in you general area. If you check you will see that they match what you are seeing.

Remember the WWII bombing missions in Europe? They actually had problems caused by clouds generated by the contrails. They would avoid a previously flown route just to keep flying in clear air. They could not fly the close formations unless conditions were VFR.

LOOK IT UP!

while i was driving to work this a.m ..I saw a lots of them.BTW i live in Northern VA

Joint pain? probably due to high elevations. Some people are more prone to it than others. Move to seaport.

If they are airliner flights, one made a U-ie.

Your perception is faulty. That aircraft is nowhere near the altitude that the aircraft leaving contrails are.

What am I supposed to see?

It's a cool winter day in North Carolina; the temperature at altitude is probably around minus forty degrees. When the first picturs are taken the relative humidity is high but not quite high enough to force natural cirrus formation.

Aircraft flying our of the tri-cities area or along the Eastern Seaboard Corridor show persistent contrails which start and stop because the atmosphere is dynamic enough so that conditions are right for contrail persistence at one place -- but not adjacent to it.

(Think about it: why do clouds have edges? Why are there sometimes scattered clouds rather than perfectly clear or completely overcast skies? Because the atmospheric conditions vary enough, even over a small area, so that you will have formative conditions here and then non-formative conditions right next to it.)

As the day wears on, the relative humidity rises a bit and you see cirrus and some cirro-stratus clouds not connected with contrails. The existing contrails persist and actually act like seeders which cause the ambient water vapor to crystallize out, which is how contrails spread out (and how cirrus clouds do, too).

I think you've made some fine photographs, but hey don't show anything out of the ordinary.

Remember, pictures of contrails don't prove the existence of a "chem-trail" plot any more than pictures of Christmas presents prove the existence of Santa Claus.

Your perception is faulty. I see them spraying. Sorry you don't.

They don't have to be an airliner. It could be military or a corporate jet.

Is there a law that says you can't change course?

It could have been a check out ride, or about a hundred other reasons.

Usually here they turn the spray off before they make the turn and then turn it back on when they become partially obfuscated by the chemcloud they have created.

These pictures were taken between 1:00 - 2:00 p.m. We are near the airport, and I can tell you that very few of the commercial airlines that fly in to, out of and over, leave this kind of mess in the sky.

Good use of verbiage there, poor use of common sense.

Very heavy spraying in Phoenix daily for at least the past 2 weeks.

cant believe we're still arguing over the reality of chemtrails on here....(they are real btw) everyone should know that who has half a brain.

my 2 cents, called in sick to work today sinus problems acting up...didnt even know they were doing it in my area.

We are all aware of who the PAID debunkers here are. They are traitors to the american people.

Wisconsin is getting pasted again. Yesterday too.

Hazy white soup. Goodbye blue sky goodbye.

You're certainly entitled to your belief, as long as you don't try to hurt people who disagree with you, or try to sabotage a "chem-trail airplane".

So you're letting clouds cost you a day's pay?

Whatever.

So if I was to agree that chemicals are being sprayed from jets causing "chemtrails" Tell me this.

Who is doing it?

Why are they doing itw......what is to be gained from this?

If it's sprayed at high altitudes it seems to me the chems would disperse across large areas in an uncontrolable fashion, thus affecting everyone including the friends and family of the people doing the spraying.

How could this be covered up ....many many people would have to be in on the gig to do this.

I've seen contrails from the time I was a small child growing up in Kansas to the present day here in central WV. They look the same as always........

Most chemazoids are under 20 and have no life experience let alone rational thought processes.