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Slutty 'BRATZ' dolls an Israeli creation -great role models

 
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Bratz

July 30, 2007

Not having any young daughters I was quite unaware of the "wildly successful" Bratz dolls or the recent movie featuring them. ("A Good-Girl Make-Over for the Bratz," Los Angeles Times, July 30, 2007). The dolls are aimed at 4-8-year-old girls, with "dewy lips, fishnet stockings and barely-there miniskirts — a creep-out factor for a lot of moms. Earlier this year, a report from the American Psychological Assn. even mentioned the Bratz dolls by name and said 'it is worrisome when dolls designed specifically for 4- to 8-year-olds are associated with an objectified adult sexuality.' " So we have the cultural subversion theme going on: "ten-inch tall hoochie mamas" for little girls to play with. Director Sean McNamara's first reaction to the dolls is revealing: "These aren't cute dolls — they look like sluts." (Here's a collection from Google Images.) [link to images.google.com]



But for the movie, they probably figured that the teenage girls as sluts theme would mean that the girls would actually have to act slutty rather than just look slutty. That would bring about an R-rating or worse, and therefore cut down on the profits. So the hoochie mama theme was downplayed in favor of a strong multicultural conflict between multi-race good guys versus "country club white" bad guys. The bad guys are led by "student-body president Meredith, who is platinum blond, affluent, haughty and in possession of both nefarious plans to rule the school and a pampered pooch named (ahem) Paris."

On the other hand, the Bratz "are the urban poly-hues of a Benetton ad": one "lily-white," one African-American, one Asian, and one Latino (played by the daughter of an Australian Jew and a Spanish Catholic). So there is a Jewish theme as well: "The loopy vision of a Jewish grandmother who, with no explanation, has a mariachi band strumming away and munching on bagels in her kitchen."

All of the non-white characters look about as white as possible while nevertheless retaining distinctive racial characteristics. This doubtless makes the characters more attractive to white girls who constitute the core audience for the movie. After all, it's natural to be attracted to those like yourself (part of the deep structure of Philippe Rushton's Genetic Similarity Theory)— even when the ingroup crosses racial lines. Having a dark-skinned Muslim character dressed in a Burkha would definitely ruin the aura.

The driving force behind Bratz is Avi Arad, an Israeli-American who is very big on diversity, at least for America: "The first thing I saw in them was diversity." ... "I really liked the idea that they had a Latino girl, an Asian girl, an African American girl and a lily-white kid. They show that your color is not going to set up your path in life. And I think that works because, among kids, it's becoming more and more of 'one world for a change.'"

The dolls and the movie are just the beginning. A Broadway musical and sequels to the movie will in due time be coming to theaters near you. Perhaps in the sequels they can continue with the "diversity is good — white without diversity is bad" theme, but maybe spice it up with some slutty behavior more in line with what the Bratz dolls are all about.

Hey Avi, how about a movie aimed at Israeli kids? I've got the perfect plot. A Jewish girl from Israel, an Israeli Arab, a Palestinian Muslim from the West Bank, and an Arab Christian do battle against a stereotypically evil Jewish-Israeli girl. A religiously fundamentalist West Bank settler who wants all Arabs removed from Israel and the occupied territories would be perfect. Or we could play it safe and have the bad guy be a Jewish girl who simply wants Israel to remain a Jewish state. Since you're into physical stereotypes, the evil Jewish girl could have all the stereotypical Jewish physical features—something right out of Der Sturmer, and we could even do an Israeli version of the "Jewish American Princess" bit. I'm telling you, Avi, this idea has legs. Have your people call me. We'll do lunch.
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I have called them "Slutz" for as long as I can remember. They are banned in my household.


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Great, another movie my kids are not going to watch.
Think I'll just stick to giving them barbies and making them watch the history channel.

They'll appreciate it when they get older.
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The little slutz are marketed in fascist chain stores. Fascism is out of the Vatican. If I were to make a toy that would be very popular they would not sell it.

Take the deadly population reduction issue of abortion and family planning, the pope says no abortion, so, the Catholics don't do it, as to not be excommunicated ect. , yet, the Catholic politicians do support it. The result is more abortion for everybody but Catholics even as abortion is imposed by Catholics.
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more junk!!!


MADE IN CHINA


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Don't really look that slutty to me. Looks like what all the girls I know, and don't know, and see everywhere, wear. If they don't wear shit like that, it's because they can't. Even still, some that can't will anyway. Which is a much bigger problem that we have to face anyway.

BTW I hate sluts, you know, real sluts that are actually slutty because of their behavior.
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Don't really look that slutty to me. Looks like what all the girls I know, and don't know, and see everywhere, wear. If they don't wear shit like that, it's because they can't. Even still, some that can't will anyway. Which is a much bigger problem that we have to face anyway.

BTW I hate sluts, you know, real sluts that are actually slutty because of their behavior.
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I think they look like aliens. Well, slutty aliens. I know alot of young girls that love them, but their parents wont let them have'em. If I had a daughter she would not be allowed to have them either.
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[link to images.google.com] Not slutty



The only thing I can get that's slutty is the shortness of some of their skirts.

I think most calling these little dolls slutty looking, might be older and out of their prime, if you know what I mean.

Sorry. BTW I'm a 23 year old male and I just wanted to help set you guys straight, I mean no offense nor do I imply that you all are old, jealous of younger women and out of your prime.
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i always thought bratz were cute.
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[link to images.google.com] Not slutty



The only thing I can get that's slutty is the shortness of some of their skirts.

I think most calling these little dolls slutty looking, might be older and out of their prime, if you know what I mean.

Sorry. BTW I'm a 23 year old male and I just wanted to help set you guys straight, I mean no offense nor do I imply that you all are old, jealous of younger women and out of your prime.
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I am 33. They are very slutty. Why would you want your 4-8 year old to look and dress like that? When you are in your 20's thats fine, but not for little girls.
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[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

This is the only pic I've been able to find with anything slutty, YES if I saw a woman dressed with a short THAT short, I would consider her slutty.

However, I might not considering how she carried herself, her attitude etc.
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The only thing I can get that's slutty is the shortness of some of their skirts.

I think most calling these little dolls slutty looking, might be older and out of their prime, if you know what I mean.

Sorry. BTW I'm a 23 year old male and I just wanted to help set you guys straight, I mean no offense nor do I imply that you all are old, jealous of younger women and out of your prime.

I am 33. They are very slutty. Why would you want your 4-8 year old to look and dress like that? When you are in your 20's thats fine, but not for little girls.
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NO THEY'RE NOT! OMG! Please give me a link to what you think is slutty. I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm just confused.

I would like to see your idea of slutty. Please post a link for me. I may very well agree! Thanks!
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Great, another movie my kids are not going to watch.
Think I'll just stick to giving them barbies and making them watch the history channel.

They'll appreciate it when they get older.
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Guess what? Barbie was orginally a doll figure of a German prostitute.

Stick with bably dolls, NOT made in China.
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Also, I wouldn't want my 4-8 year old to dress like that. That would be rediculous, obviously.

But letting my child play with a toy and buying her clothes like that are two different scenerios, also obviously, I thought.
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Goto [link to www.bratz.com]
click on style then fashions. The dolls are dressed in teddy's and high heels. Thats not right.
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Who brought Barbie to the US?

Ruth Handler
Born Ruth Mosko
November 4, 1916
Denver, Colorado, USA
Died April 27, 2002 (aged 85)
Los Angeles, California, USA
Complications of surgery for colon cancer
Employer Mattel, Inc.
Occupation Entrepreneur, inventor, President of Mattel, Inc.
Successor Robert A. Eckert
Religious stance Jewish
Spouse Elliott Handler (1938 - 2002)
Children Barbara, Kenneth
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they are promoting the slutty style to these youth
[link to jesschocikenandjambu.blogspot.com]
and slutty doesn't change, you may accept it more these days, it is still slutty, meaning nobody would want their wife running around dressed like that. selling herself.

You are aware the borders are wide open and the crime rate is high. We don't need our women running around asking to be raped. The more conservative the better.
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Hold on -- I'm confused.

The characters are young, teenage sluts.

Got it.

Is there another point this guy is trying to make, regarding Israelis or something?
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Zionists undermine the morality of the host culture they are colonizing.
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Thx for the link. She's a little slutty but nothing your average girl wouldn't wear, and not consider slutty.

BUT, everyones ideas about sexuality are different, and I respect yours, especially when it comes to your children.

I would probably let my child have these dolls if I had kids. I don't so I can't say "Yes I would". I don't know.

Anyway, to those that have kids, their yours and you raise them as you see fit.

In my opinion, I wish parents were more conservative so that maybe we wouldn't have as many real life sluts running around. I have a pretty negative view of most women these days, and it's been confirmed over and over. Most of them are just as sexual as men and will f&*& just as quickly and as indiscriminately as men. Bye guys.
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More multi-cultural brainwashing targeting the youngest and most vunerable designed to further degrade a society while making a ton of dough doing so........ Mnnnn, yeah, jew written all over it.
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Er, as for my last post, I don't think you ladies are sluts.

Bye! :)
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In my opinion, I wish parents were more conservative so that maybe we wouldn't have as many real life sluts running around. I have a pretty negative view of most women these days, and it's been confirmed over and over. Most of them are just as sexual as men and will f&*& just as quickly and as indiscriminately as men. Bye guys.
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Thats the point. You have to start while they are young. I have friends that have 6 year old girls who have boyfriends. My son who is in 8th grade has girls in his class that look like strippers. I can not believe some of the things I see. Parents have a responsibility to raise their children with morals and self respect. That is not going on too much today.
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Thats the point. You have to start while they are young. I have friends that have 6 year old girls who have boyfriends. My son who is in 8th grade has girls in his class that look like strippers. I can not believe some of the things I see. Parents have a responsibility to raise their children with morals and self respect. That is not going on too much today.
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Definatly gotta start young, but know that no matter how well you bring them up, their friends actually have just as big if not more a part of their development, unfortunately.

I used to go to church with some girls who had very conservative and christianly parents who in my opinion, raised them as well as anyone could. She was pregnant by the time we graduated high school and she was most definately a slut.

Try as you may, you cannot stop a young girl from being promiscuous. It's impossible short of a chastity belt.
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In my opinion, I wish parents were more conservative so that maybe we wouldn't have as many real life sluts running around. I have a pretty negative view of most women these days, and it's been confirmed over and over. Most of them are just as sexual as men and will f&*& just as quickly and as indiscriminately as men. Bye guys.

Thats the point. You have to start while they are young. I have friends that have 6 year old girls who have boyfriends. My son who is in 8th grade has girls in his class that look like strippers. I can not believe some of the things I see. Parents have a responsibility to raise their children with morals and self respect. That is not going on too much today.
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You are so right. Parents must guard their children from the colonizing influence of those who would corrupt a society and it's people. Once the people are as corrupt as the colonizing agent, they fail to recognize the decline engineered BY the colonizers for complete takeover.
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Yes - that jews are the cause of all the world's problems..


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Not all, just a grossly disproportional amount of them.


There is a reason
nobody likes
jews.

Its not something I did.
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Yes - that jews are the cause of all the world's problems..



Not all, just a grossly disproportional amount of them.


There is a reason
nobody likes
jews.

Its not something I did.
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Plenty of people like jews - 'people' being the key word..
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Yes - that jews are the cause of all the world's problems..



Not all, just a grossly disproportional amount of them.


There is a reason
nobody likes
jews.

Its not something I did.
 Quoting: IDW 324088



Yet they would LIKE people do believe it's something YOU and evryone but THEY did. We can see that they have to whip up false persecution where it doesn't even exist! They assume that creating victimization will win sympathy. WRONG!

LOL, keep it up, all you race baiting scumbags!
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Yes - that jews are the cause of all the world's problems..



Not all, just a grossly disproportional amount of them.


There is a reason
nobody likes
jews.

Its not something I did.



Yet they would LIKE people do believe it's something YOU and evryone but THEY did. We can see that they have to whip up false persecution where it doesn't even exist! They assume that creating victimization will win sympathy. WRONG!

LOL, keep it up, all you race baiting scumbags!
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Your post makes no sense. Take some mineral oil, wait a while and get back to us later.
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oh come on, these dolls have "Fuck Me" written all over them-the make-up, the clothes and the stance

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