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what countries DONT have a rothschild controlled central bank yet?

 
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India is free:

[link to www.rbi.org.in]

"The Central Office of the Reserve Bank was initially established in Calcutta but was permanently moved to Mumbai in 1937. The Central Office is where the Governor sits and where policies are formulated.

Though originally privately owned, since nationalisation in 1949, the Reserve Bank is fully owned by the Government of India."
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Japan was put under rothschild control after WWII.
Rockafeller went over and bought out a buch of businesses
and created Sony which the first initials are that of
Standard Oil the company owned by rockafeller. At this time
the Japanese debt was bought out as well and the Rothschild
central bank was established shortly there after.

I'm compiling an essay on the subject I'll post it when I'm finished.

-California_student

Sony - Standard Oil New York


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982960

Very nice work sir...but that's just one story on one country. Keep up the good research.
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[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

Central banks depend on constant economic growth to function. I'd be interested in investing in those countries who don't have one
 Quoting: Sky Minor 935651

I don't know just how interested I'd be in investing in them considering how America seems to want war with any country that doesn't have a central bank...Syria, Somalia, Venezuela, North Korea, Iran and the former...Iraq. Do you see any kind of pattern developing with these countries? Our government just happens to have problems with countries that don't have a Rothschild Central Bank. But nice commment anyway.
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Ahh the world's a circus. The sheep have no chance...
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Now that's just not very nice....baaaahhhh
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Ahh the world's a circus. The sheep have no chance...
 Quoting: TooEasyForTheElites 935630

Now that's just not very nice.....baaaaahhh
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Interest is yield.

"Iran uses what are officially termed "provisional" interest rates, as rates paid to depositors or received from borrowers should reflect the profits or losses of a business. Under these rules, deposit rates, known as "dividends", are in theory related to a bank's profitability. In reality, however, these dividends have become fixed rates of return—depositors have never lost their savings because of losses made by the banks and almost never received returns larger than the provisional ex-ante profit rates. Interest charged on loans is presented as "fees" or a share of corporate profits."

It's just word play...there is no way that the so called Islamic world could be as advanced as they are without operating within the global usury system.

Usury is taking more than you give.

The opposite is sharing as equally as possible.

If the so called Islamic countries actually rejected usury and shared as equally as possible...there would not be a few rich ruling over many poor.

All Islamic rules do is administrate the masses differently but at it's basic level it still depends upon taking more than it gives.

The absolute capitalistic hierarchical food powered make work enterprise or city state is over 6000 years old and all it is designed to do is take more than it gives to sustain itself.

Every central bank on Earth is connected to the global hierarchy.

You are all oblivious morons.
 Quoting: Hypertiger 987710

I'm assuming that you would agree with the redistribution of wealth since you think we are all oblivious morons. Maybe some of us realize that that might possibly wipe out our middle class only because it would simply tax the middle class or redistribute the money of the middle class to the poor....who would in turn eventually give it back to the rich, right? Redistribution simply tells me that the middle class has gotten smart enough to keep their money away from the rich so the rich or elite must now change the rules of the system so someone else can hold their money...the poor.
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North Korea's bank is not a Rothchild bank. That is why they are on the list too.
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Yeah our Military has BEEN to war with them Too.Viet Nam is also a place that did not have a Central bank at the time of our invasion-via the trumped up charges know as the Gulf of Tonkin incident.Mcnamara said this was "another fantasy lie".The State Bank of Vietnam was a merger of 2 other banks & came about in 1976.
Panama doesn't have a central bank,they have 2 government owned banks with 6 Billion (U.S.$'s)in assets.They have a great economy based on 80% GNP.
I think Chavez has paid back all debt to the IMF also.Poland had Repaid all it's debts too.But the leaders somehow got into an untimely demise.It happened Right after refusing to be re-indebted when the IMF insisted on forced another loan on them.
IRAN is next on the list,you can take that to the.....
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Such a good topic and the OP blew it upon opening.

This is probably the best answer to many questions that ill us.

It's all about money. Money is the root.

Everything else is a distraction.

I'll tell you all this again in a year because no one will listen...yet again.
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Here in Quebec the vast majority use :Caisse populaire Desjardins" owned and controled by us Quebecois. Nothing to do with Rothschild.
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Liectenstein.
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Vampires prey on the host until the host finally dies. It's not the vampires' fault, it's because the host is weak.
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why do you have prisons in Mexico then? It is the fault of the victims they were robbed or murdered, not the thieves' and assassins'. Let them at large, cheer them and toast their generosity with mass-wine! They are misunderstood, poor beings!
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Russia aren't controlled by the Rothchild's anymore.

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Its not just the Rothschild controlled central banks that need to be eliminated, it's all central banks. We need a system backed by gold and interest free. That way, the government will have to steal from us where we can see it happening.
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Argentina and Brazil paid off their IMF debt in 2005 making central bankers nervous.

[link to www.larouchepub.com]

Then Venezuela in 2007 paid off the IMF and exited the World Bank

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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it's rare the core truth is posted here these days, but this gets pretty close to the core truth. It should be pinned. World war 2, germany without a central bank, makes you think doesn't it? There's a reason they were expelling the 'jews' out of germany.

Anywhoo, drink some kool aid, go back to sleep, and pretend the arabz are our real enemy.
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with the number of votes and views this thread gets, i'll assume there's still a large number of ACs that lurk here who get it, despite the excessive number of posts of sheeple related topics lately.
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Here in Quebec the vast majority use :Caisse populaire Desjardins" owned and controled by us Quebecois. Nothing to do with Rothschild.
 Quoting: Maryjane of earth 1066930


Hey you dumb ass frog, Caisse populaire Desjardins gets its money from the Central Bank of Canada which is a franchise of the Federal Reserve of the U.S. which is a franchise of the Bank of England. The Desjardins are way up there in the satanic synagogue of satan.
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In reality, someone has to control the money. There will always be fees and costs associated with lending money. Who pays the bank tellers? Your interest. Who buys the paper and ink to print the money? Your interest.

There will always be costs that need to be covered, and anyone in business will tell you, these costs are paid for with the profits (your interest).

The problems arise when too much interest (usury) is applied and the borrower cannot ever pay it back. This is also called Greed. The Rothschilds/IMF/World Bank are guilty of greed/usury and we will ALL pay with our blood.

If the powers that be called in all of their debts and demanded to be paid immediately, 85% of the USA would be boarded up. It is really sad, but nonetheless TRUE.

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Of all of this, the one thing that pisses me off is the people they choose to put on the money. This to me is the height of arrogance. This is the one thing that makes me want to take up arms against them. The fact that they use the VERY PEOPLE WHO MOST PUBLICLY VOICED THEIR OUTRAGE AGAINST THEM AS THE FACES ON THE MONEY PISSES ME OFF TO NO END.

Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Jackson, Kennedy, etc. ALL WERE AGAINST THE CENTRAL BANK AND ALL ARE ON THE MONEY!!!!

IT IS THE ROTHSCHILDS WAY OF THUMBING THEIR NOSE AT US!!!!

IT IS THEIR LITTLE INSIDE JOKE, THAT EVERY TRANSACTION MADE IS MADE WITH THEIR MONEY, WITH THE FACE OF THEIR ENEMY ON IT, AND THAT EACH TRANSACTION MAKES THEM A LITTLE MORE WEALTHY AND POWERFUL, WHILE THE PERSON USING THE MONEY GETS POORER, AND WHILE THE PERSON ON THE MONEY TURNS OVER IN THEIR GRAVE!!!!

The last thing ANY of those men would have wanted is their portrait ON THE CENTRAL BANKS MONEY!

It is an outright insult to Americans. They should have Mayer Amshel, Carnegie, Morgan, Rockefeller etc. on the money. Those are their champions.The men on the money now ARE THE ONES THEY DEFEATED!!!!

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here is a list of the different denominations of our money. The portrait on the money is always someone who was either a staunch opponent to the central banks, or someone who was duped into helping the central bank and regretted it later. I am posting this because it irritates me how the money changers use the people who tried to rout them out as their poster boys. It truly shows that history is written by the victors. Whenever you count their money, and believe that it is yours, you should know that the face on the bills and coins are frowning upon you.


.01 The Penny. Abraham Lincoln.
Abraham Lincoln hated the idea of a central bank so much that he created his own money to replace it. These are called "Greenbacks". He was assasinated for this reason. He said, "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war."

.05 The Nickel. Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson wanted our country to print and use our own currency, warning us that "The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution. I am an Enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but Coin. If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."

.10 The Dime. Franklin Roosevelt.
FDR said in his innaugural address, "Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men. True they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit they have proposed only the lending of more money. Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored confidence....The money changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. The measure of the restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit". And this, sometime later, "The real truth of the matter is, and you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the US. since the days of Andrew Jackson. History depicts Andrew Jackson as the last truly honorable and incorruptible American president".

.25 The Quarter. George Washington.
George Washington signed into law the First National Bank. It was suggested to him by the Secretary of the Treasury at the time, Alexander Hamilton. Also in Washington's cabinet at the time was Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State. It is important here to understand that George Washington was an isolationist. He did not want anything to do with foreign trade. This is counter-productive to the moneychangers philosophy. He was quoted as saying "The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have as little political connection as possible... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of
European ambition, rivalships, interest, humor, or caprice?... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world."

.50 The 50 Cent Piece. John Kennedy.
Our last true President said, "For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." He was also assasinated.

$1.00 The Dollar Coin. Dwight Eisenhower.
Eisenhower audited Ft. Knox. It is the last time this has been done. He did not like what he found. Ike warned us against the insiders at his farewell address when he said, "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or
unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

$1.00 The Dollar Bill. George Washington. See The Quarter.

$2.00 The Two Dollar Bill. Thomas Jefferson. See The Nickel.

$5.00 The Five Dollar Bill. Abraham Lincoln. See The Penny.

$10.00 The Ten Dollar Bill. Alexander Hamilton.
Alexander Hamilton was George Washington's Secretary of the Treasury, and he suggested The First National Bank. He was also a Protectionist and an Isolationist much like George Washington. He believed in taxing or discouraging imports and anti-globalization. He wanted nothing to do with Europe but was played like a pawn. Hamilton was bought by the money changers and at one point said "A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing."

$20.00 The Twenty Dollar Bill. Andrew Jackson.
Andrew Jackson once said, when asked what his greatest accomplishment as President was that "I killed the Bank." Jackson detested the foreign bankers and their minions and once proclaimed to Congress, "You are a den of vipers and thieves and I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out. If Congress has the right to issue paper money, it was given them to be used by themselves, and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.." He vetoed the Banks re-charter and succeeded in removing them. He survived his assasination attempt.

$50.00 The Fifty Dollar Bill. Ulysses Grant.
Ullyses S. Grant had the power to bring the Central Bank back but refused. He was Abraham Lincolns friend, and was assaulted the same night Lincoln was assasinated. He was supposed to be at Ford Theatre. He was quoted as saying "My failures have been errors of judgment, not of intent." when discussing the failure of the System of National Banks. Lincolnian in philosophy, Grant hated the money changers.

$100.00 The One Hundred Dollar Bill. Benjamin Franklin.
Franklin did not want a Central Bank. "In the Colonies, we issue our own paper money. It is called 'Colonial Scrip.' We issue it in proper proportion to make the goods and pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power and we have no interest to pay to no one." And he also wrote, "The viability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of King George III and the international bankers was the prime reason for the revolutionary war."

$500.00 The Five Hundred Dollar Bill. William McKinley.
McKinley went directly at the Rothschilds when he launched The Sherman Anti-Trust Act. He opposed any Central Bank stating, "Our financial system needs some revision; our money is all good now, but its value must not further be threatened. It should all be put upon an enduring basis,
not subject to easy attack, nor its stability to doubt or dispute. Our currency should continue under the supervision of the Government. The several forms of our paper money offer, in my judgment, a constant embarrassment to the Government and a safe balance in the Treasury."

$1000.00 The One Thousand Dollar Bill. Grover Cleveland.
Grover Cleveland saw through the money changers. "The ship of democracy, which has weathered all storms, may sink through the mutiny of those on board." Like Garfield before him, Grover Cleveland was Jeffersonian in his beliefs of the dangers of a Central Bank. Another Gold Standard President, he said in his inaugural address, "We should never be ashamed of the simplicity and prudential economies which are best suited to the operation of a republican form of government and most compatible with the mission of the American people."

$5000.00 The Five Thousand Dollar Bill. James Madison.
Madison vehemetly opposed the Central Bank and those who quietly control them. "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance."
Madison was later forced into signing the charter for The Second Bank of the United States.

$10,000.00 The Ten Thousand Dollar Bill. Salmon Chase.
Salmon Chase was U.S. Treasury Secretary under Abraham Lincoln. Along with Lincoln he helped to create "Greenbacks". The Chase Bank is named after him, although he had no affiliation with it's owners. His name is their trophy. Salmon Chase later said, "My agency in promoting the
passage of the National Banking Act was the greatest financial mistake in my life. It has built up a monopoly which affects every interest in the country." Chase disapproved of paper money, cautioning too much could be printed resulting in inflation.

$100,000.00 The One Hundred Thousand Dollar Bill. Woodrow Wilson.
Woodrow Wilson was tricked into signing the current Central Bank, The Federal Reserve, into law in 1913. He was very upset at what he had done and said, "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our
system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion,
no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
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Its not just the Rothschild controlled central banks that need to be eliminated, it's all central banks. We need a system backed by gold and interest free. That way, the government will have to steal from us where we can see it happening.
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You think governments didn't steal from people when currencies were backed by gold?

lmao
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In reality, someone has to control the money. There will always be fees and costs associated with lending money. Who pays the bank tellers? Your interest. Who buys the paper and ink to print the money? Your interest.

There will always be costs that need to be covered, and anyone in business will tell you, these costs are paid for with the profits (your interest).

The problems arise when too much interest (usury) is applied and the borrower cannot ever pay it back. This is also called Greed. The Rothschilds/IMF/World Bank are guilty of greed/usury and we will ALL pay with our blood.

If the powers that be called in all of their debts and demanded to be paid immediately, 85% of the USA would be boarded up. It is really sad, but nonetheless TRUE.

----------------------------------------------------------

Of all of this, the one thing that pisses me off is the people they choose to put on the money. This to me is the height of arrogance. This is the one thing that makes me want to take up arms against them. The fact that they use the VERY PEOPLE WHO MOST PUBLICLY VOICED THEIR OUTRAGE AGAINST THEM AS THE FACES ON THE MONEY PISSES ME OFF TO NO END.

Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Jackson, Kennedy, etc. ALL WERE AGAINST THE CENTRAL BANK AND ALL ARE ON THE MONEY!!!!

IT IS THE ROTHSCHILDS WAY OF THUMBING THEIR NOSE AT US!!!!

IT IS THEIR LITTLE INSIDE JOKE, THAT EVERY TRANSACTION MADE IS MADE WITH THEIR MONEY, WITH THE FACE OF THEIR ENEMY ON IT, AND THAT EACH TRANSACTION MAKES THEM A LITTLE MORE WEALTHY AND POWERFUL, WHILE THE PERSON USING THE MONEY GETS POORER, AND WHILE THE PERSON ON THE MONEY TURNS OVER IN THEIR GRAVE!!!!

The last thing ANY of those men would have wanted is their portrait ON THE CENTRAL BANKS MONEY!

It is an outright insult to Americans. They should have Mayer Amshel, Carnegie, Morgan, Rockefeller etc. on the money. Those are their champions.The men on the money now ARE THE ONES THEY DEFEATED!!!!

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Muslims.... No fiat currency, no usury... forbidden by Alah

Gee, think maybe that is why so much negativity is aimed at them?
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Im aware that Iraq and afghanistan we 2 previous nations but they now have them. Iran and Syria are 2 who dont but htee must be others surely?

I have a theory anyway
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South America does not....
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I think there were 5 total.. Iran, Syria, Libya, Venezuela and.. umm.. another..
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There is now only 1 country left! North Korea So we can now expect some sort of conflict with them as a way of entrance into, and gaining control of their money system. Once their gone you can kiss you hopes and dreams of recovery of the NWO Bye Bye - Hello Anti Christ

All information can be found at [link to www.bbc.co.uk] by clicking on each reagion then country at the top. All the countries information is contained.
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China doesn't have a central bank, either. They have a national bank which isn't a central bank controlled by private bankers like our Federal Reserve is. They also have a real currency rather than the reserve notes (which is basically an IOU to the private banks which own the central bank ... our money says Federal Reserve Note on it ... it isn't a United States currency). If the banksters want to take over the world, China is going to have to go down.
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China doesn't have a central bank, either. They have a national bank which isn't a central bank controlled by private bankers like our Federal Reserve is. They also have a real currency rather than the reserve notes (which is basically an IOU to the private banks which own the central bank ... our money says Federal Reserve Note on it ... it isn't a United States currency). If the banksters want to take over the world, China is going to have to go down.
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You sure?
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Two ways to determine if a country is in charge of its own destiny:

1) The national bank is owned by the national government rather than private bankers.

2) There is a national currency rather than a note issued by private bankers.

We use reserve notes issued by private bankers in the U.S. Woe is us.

Central banks owned by private bankers is a creation of the Anglo-American banking system (Britain, Canada, U.S.). We have been forcing it onto other countries ever since. Most of the wars in the 20th century and 21st century were to force our banking system on other countries and plunder resources. We weren't always successful, but we get them other ways such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.
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China doesn't have a central bank, either. They have a national bank which isn't a central bank controlled by private bankers like our Federal Reserve is. They also have a real currency rather than the reserve notes (which is basically an IOU to the private banks which own the central bank ... our money says Federal Reserve Note on it ... it isn't a United States currency). If the banksters want to take over the world, China is going to have to go down.

[link to business.timesonline.co.uk]

You sure?
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I got that info about China from a book titled "Babylon's Banksters" published in June 2010. I assume it is still current.

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