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Don't you get the feeling this is all a puppet show? Ron Paul may be one hell of a sincere man, don't get me wrong, but if you are really falling for this lights-bells-whistles routine you may have another thing coming.

What happened to revolution? What happened to taking back the country from the criminals? It seems you put all your hopes and ambitions in one basket named Ron Paul '08. There are no such thing as elections, only selections, and the global powers that be will be damned if they are not going to place their pieces exactly how they want to!

So when this whole Ron Paul deal blows over, what happens? No revolution? Do you realize that while they have you looking over 'here', the crimes and atrocities still continue over 'there'? WAKE UP! You may find that you have held off the revolt so long that now they have taken your guns from you?

Divert....pacify....that's what it is...a state of suspended animation.

UFO disclosure would have been great....about 20 years ago. What do you think this government controlled disclosure will be? Naturally, they are going to spin it however they wish. It will simply be another psychological operation on the people...increase the fear, show them the next great threat. And the plan continues on...

In fact it is all a psychological operation in some way...9/11 truth, global warming, nesara, conspiracy left and right and on and on. We are being lead on like a donkey chasing a carrot. What comes of it? What is the bigger picture and what is at stake for humanity?

These are big questions we all have to ask ourselves. You can choose to only focus on one of many battles being fought or you can see the WAR for what it is. The war on you - on consciousness. Find the absolute truth in all things, study and work in consciousness because the answers and the salvation of humanity lies there.

Now, back to the show...
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These are big questions we all have to ask ourselves. You can choose to only focus on one of many battles being fought or you can see the WAR for what it is. The war on you - on consciousness. Find the absolute truth in all things, study and work in consciousness because the answers and the salvation of humanity lies there.

Now, back to the show...
 Quoting: Starless (redux)


*sigh*

I wish more people would come to realize that as I, and evidently you, have. This is what its all about, a war on consciousness. They know great change is coming, that consciousness evolves.. they want to stay rooted in power.. and not reach a level of love where a matrix of control is impossible.

The war on drugs is the best indication that what you've said is true. Specifically Magic Mushrooms, Cannabis and DMT. Cannabis being a mild spiritual tool, and the other two being very strong spiritual tools.

Im not sure about salvation though.. in the sense that i do not know what "i" must do to achieve peace and freedom for everyone. This is what makes it so amazing, and yet so scary.. having to be your own shaman, teaching yourself.

But then, everything you'll ever need is built right into your body.. its just a case of learning how to use the gift that is the human body.
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I guess everyone is watching tv tonite....
RP is a touchy subject....though some battered egos...hey we are truth-seekers afterall:)

Ron Paul cannot save you.
Aliens cannot save you.
Ron Paul teaming up with aliens still cannot save you.




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what makes you think there won't be a revolution if RP doesn't get nominated...

did you read that speech from the mayor of SLC? Americans are mad as hell and arn't gonna take it anymore

ron paul is their last hope, for taking back the country "legally"...and if that doesn't work then they will take it back before their guns get taken from them (next)

don't underestimate the american spirit...you apathy is no longer acceptable...like w says...you are either with us...or you are against us.

no real american can continue to support what the neocons have done to our nation...and we WILL take it back!
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what makes you think there won't be a revolution if RP doesn't get nominated...

did you read that speech from the mayor of SLC? Americans are mad as hell and arn't gonna take it anymore

ron paul is their last hope, for taking back the country "legally"...and if that doesn't work then they will take it back before their guns get taken from them (next)

don't underestimate the american spirit...you apathy is no longer acceptable...like w says...you are either with us...or you are against us.

no real american can continue to support what the neocons have done to our nation...and we WILL take it back!
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Fuck america
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what makes you think there won't be a revolution if RP doesn't get nominated...

did you read that speech from the mayor of SLC? Americans are mad as hell and arn't gonna take it anymore

ron paul is their last hope, for taking back the country "legally"...and if that doesn't work then they will take it back before their guns get taken from them (next)

don't underestimate the american spirit...you apathy is no longer acceptable...like w says...you are either with us...or you are against us.

no real american can continue to support what the neocons have done to our nation...and we WILL take it back!
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Well, I hope you are right. But last hope...yeah until something else comes along. I would like to see this revolution if Ron Paul doesn't make the ticket.
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Well, I hope you are right. But last hope...yeah until something else comes along. I would like to see this revolution if Ron Paul doesn't make the ticket.
 Quoting: Starless (redux)

i believe you can count on it. the RP ideas of constitutional govt won't be stopped now. it's too late to avoid a fight. are you up for it? or are you gonna lay down and spread your pretty ass?
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what makes you think there won't be a revolution if RP doesn't get nominated...

did you read that speech from the mayor of SLC? Americans are mad as hell and arn't gonna take it anymore

ron paul is their last hope, for taking back the country "legally"...and if that doesn't work then they will take it back before their guns get taken from them (next)

don't underestimate the american spirit...you apathy is no longer acceptable...like w says...you are either with us...or you are against us.

no real american can continue to support what the neocons have done to our nation...and we WILL take it back!
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don't underestimate the american spirit...you apathy is no longer acceptable...like w says...you are either with us...or you are against us.

wow.... your either with us or against us... THATS MY FREINDS SAIS IT ALL RP MIGHT AS WELL START A CIVIL WAR FOR FUCKS SAKE
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I guess everyone is watching tv tonite....
RP is a touchy subject....though some battered egos...hey we are truth-seekers afterall:)

Ron Paul cannot save you.
Aliens cannot save you.
Ron Paul teaming up with aliens still cannot save you.




:pedestri:
 Quoting: Starless (redux)


IMO, It's up to us to save us.
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ROn Paul is the anti-thesis raised up by the bankers
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and what the FUCK do you think the aliens (People from other places) themselves will do about this? do you suppose the would allow a disclosure and lies about them?
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and what the FUCK do you think the aliens (People from other places) themselves will do about this? do you suppose the would allow a disclosure and lies about them?
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why would they care?wtf
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ROn Paul is the anti-thesis raised up by the bankers
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~(new avatar-oscar? :)

yes, it's a puppet show, always has been. but we can operate on all the levels. hope burns eternal...

~ron paul=a glimmer of hope, even if nothing becomes of him personally, the spark is there. millions have been awakened.

~aliens. child please. they have been here-are here. ufos hehe. all that is real, but the current spin, the whole 'mythology' has been spun by the very guys who are 'it'.

~by possessing our soul-jackie draper, not be jackie paper for them-we can make it. but they are sooo close. maybe there are just some of us who are wired different? found my sunglasses about 30 years ago, but still learning. :)
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I guess everyone is watching tv tonite....
RP is a touchy subject....though some battered egos...hey we are truth-seekers afterall:)

Ron Paul cannot save you.
Aliens cannot save you.
Ron Paul teaming up with aliens still cannot save you.

:pedestri:
 Quoting: Starless (redux)


In america, you are the sovereign, free as a individual inhabitant.

If you need to be governed, than in america, you have the right to contract to be a subject to whoever you wish. Federal Government included..

For instance, I've had people tell me I 'need' a license, or 'permit' to sell my property.

3 years running and I'm still shaking my head at how people are fooled into this.

The rules and regulations they would use to enforce this only apply to people who sign the license forms and permits and agree to the terms ... LOLOL!!!
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If you could throw me in jail for not voluntarily signing a license....

THAN WHY THE HELL DO I NEED TO SIGN IT ... LOL!
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Would it be a far stretch to say

signing the back of a paycheck and 'endorsing' private FIAT money of the Fed sets one up for a irrecusable obligation to file ?

Its voluntary to endorse FIAT money at the bank, no one forces us to endorse Federal Reserve notes...
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This is the paradign shift Paul is trying to inflict...

Its a major shift...

From thinking you have "a government" ... or need to look to "the government" ....

Why not be the one whom created governments... who created "a government" for the people...

The united states has never done one thing to promote liberty... It cannot be proven so!

The United States is not alive... it didn't fight in WW2, it didn't fight in the Civil War, it didn't fight in the Revolutionary war..

It owes us, always had and always will

and we owe all those whom died to keep it that way..

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5 stars for you Starless (redux), for your awareness of the world and for your non-over-grown ego.
5 stars for not having misdirected hope.
5 stars for bringing hope that not everyone is blinded by the feeling that someone else could solve all our problem

I just wish that more and more use their minds to bend their own beliefs into a productive manner and not into a dead end.
Most RP extremist supporters are indeed intelligent people, but are too blind by the hope of sloth and conformation to be the answer.
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Only individual men fought and died for this republic.
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Unless you are CHOSEN BY GOD, human's will never be able, too, communicate , or do anything UFO'S do, never, as whiteman, did too the true tribe's, as mankind does today, space, is not the place for mankind, as you people all witness today, earth is pathetic, mankind is pathetic, GREED RULE'S nothing has changed and nothing will
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5 stars for you Starless (redux), for your awareness of the world and for your non-over-grown ego.
5 stars for not having misdirected hope.
5 stars for bringing hope that not everyone is blinded by the feeling that someone else could solve all our problem

I just wish that more and more use their minds to bend their own beliefs into a productive manner and not into a dead end.
Most RP extremist supporters are indeed intelligent people, but are too blind by the hope of sloth and conformation to be the answer.
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~i like this thread and enjoy op's threads-but-what are you guys proposing as solutions? i mean this-am very open-minded and want to understand your viewpoint.
(by the way my hope lies with no earthly anything :)


why is it not possible to operate on all of the levels which we now exist at the same time- both the spiritual AND the physical. in ALL THINGS~be true to yourself~
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a revolution, of americans, right. ez to talk about, quite another thing to put your ass on the line. this whole world is going pretty much to their script. if something gets out of control, like the stuff leaking out about what moregellons actually is, they just send in the shills with disinfo. they have operated successfully this way all along. they leak what they want you to know and then you think you know something. babies.
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~i like this thread and enjoy op's threads-but-what are you guys proposing as solutions? i mean this-am very open-minded and want to understand your viewpoint.
(by the way my hope lies with no earthly anything :)


why is it not possible to operate on all of the levels which we now exist at the same time- both the spiritual AND the physical. in ALL THINGS~be true to yourself~
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That's the point. WE are not proposing nothing as solution. Before you can look for one, you need to know the causes, not the symptoms.
People seem to be fighting for a validation of the symptoms and looking for something that lessen them. We should be looking for the cause of the symptoms before using any 'medicine' to cure it.
And I agree with you, we should be able to operate on all levels, and specially, be truthful to ourselves. But to be true to ourselves we need to be in good shape on all levels. Misdirected hope can be a worst illness than no hope at all, if it's misdirected to another problem, even if it seems like a solution.
There is no solution for the world beside the individual solution, and by saying that, I have to point that, individual solution is for ALL OF US. Everyone on this celestial body, on this civilization must solve their own problems before focusing on solving the problems of others (that will not exist after that stage)
One man can change lots of things, but can't change the way people are. People must change before being able to 'elect' someone to 'Organize' the worlds thoughts!
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So when this whole Ron Paul deal blows over, what happens? No revolution? Do you realize that while they have you looking over 'here', the crimes and atrocities still continue over 'there'? WAKE UP! You may find that you have held off the revolt so long that now they have taken your guns from you?

Divert....pacify....that's what it is...a state of suspended animation.

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Revolt.. Guns ... ? I thought you meant in the mind ...

hypocrisy?

Consciousness, physicality and spirituality - Ron Paul wants a peaceful change by teaching people their rights endowed by a creator... not by government.

That seems alot powerful than any gun or bullet. The violent revolution was accomplished in 1861. They are ready for it again.

They cannot stop an enlightened populace cause no one would recognize the 'criminals' anymore and we could begind to re-populate the congress and states with true Sovereign people ... not Federal Citizens
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Unless you are CHOSEN BY GOD, human's will never be able, too, communicate , or do anything UFO'S do, never, as whiteman, did too the true tribe's, as mankind does today, space, is not the place for mankind, as you people all witness today, earth is pathetic, mankind is pathetic, GREED RULE'S nothing has changed and nothing will
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There are so many "theises", "antithesises" and resultant "sythesises" that the intended interactions, confusions about which is which and whom is whom are sure to make it almost impossible to keep everything straight; maybe we are not supposed to be able to. IE while we are trying to digest 911 truth, ufos, CFR, the UN's latest clusterfork, Ron Paul et al we are again misdirected from something that they don't want us to see. I have seen elsewhere a suggeston that RP is one of those "lightworkers" or closely aligned with the nesara, galactic federation people too. He seems too good to be true. Jiommy Carter for all his boastful promises did noda to addres the UFO questions, Jack Kennedy was definitely about to upset "their" (whichever ones of "THEY" it threatened), Sex inn thhe City and Everybody loves Raymond continue the opium-den-like confusion of most Amerikans about any and everything and finally I can;t help but believe that RP will not "save" us. IF and I MEAN IF he is all he says, he can do little against the dug in corrupt defenses of the "THEYS" we have been victimized by for all these years.
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Don't you get the feeling this is all a puppet show? Ron Paul may be one hell of a sincere man, don't get me wrong, but if you are really falling for this lights-bells-whistles routine you may have another thing coming.

What happened to revolution? What happened to taking back the country from the criminals? It seems you put all your hopes and ambitions in one basket named Ron Paul '08. There are no such thing as elections, only selections, and the global powers that be will be damned if they are not going to place their pieces exactly how they want to!

So when this whole Ron Paul deal blows over, what happens? No revolution? Do you realize that while they have you looking over 'here', the crimes and atrocities still continue over 'there'? WAKE UP! You may find that you have held off the revolt so long that now they have taken your guns from you?

Divert....pacify....that's what it is...a state of suspended animation.

UFO disclosure would have been great....about 20 years ago. What do you think this government controlled disclosure will be? Naturally, they are going to spin it however they wish. It will simply be another psychological operation on the people...increase the fear, show them the next great threat. And the plan continues on...

In fact it is all a psychological operation in some way...9/11 truth, global warming, nesara, conspiracy left and right and on and on. We are being lead on like a donkey chasing a carrot. What comes of it? What is the bigger picture and what is at stake for humanity?

These are big questions we all have to ask ourselves. You can choose to only focus on one of many battles being fought or you can see the WAR for what it is. The war on you - on consciousness. Find the absolute truth in all things, study and work in consciousness because the answers and the salvation of humanity lies there.

Now, back to the show...
 Quoting: Starless (redux)

I saw ron paul on sunday morning,some news show.But he came across as being kind of a dipshit. His plans are dumb.I had thought about voting for him as a way of NOT giving some other lame-o my vote.But not after seeing him go into a rant.He's not gonna be president.He doesnt have the intelligence or the agenda that makes sense.
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What if Ron Paul is on the dark side too?

I donated to his campaign some money hoping it was money spent wise but recently saw these pic!


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Revolt.. Guns ... ? I thought you meant in the mind ...

hypocrisy?

Consciousness, physicality and spirituality - Ron Paul wants a peaceful change by teaching people their rights endowed by a creator... not by government.

That seems alot powerful than any gun or bullet. The violent revolution was accomplished in 1861. They are ready for it again.

They cannot stop an enlightened populace cause no one would recognize the 'criminals' anymore and we could begind to re-populate the congress and states with true Sovereign people ... not Federal Citizens
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No hypocrisy here. They are taking away your rights, not your ability to think. We are becoming enlightened, yes, I agree. But is the external situation changing? How do you plan to re-populate the congress?
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OP - I agree that this is a battle of consciousness, but there is no reason to criticize those who are putting all their energy into Ron Paul. To many, Ron Paul represents change, truth. I see it as a very positive sign that Ron's success continues to grow. While I agree that one man cannot change everything, it is the people who are waking up. Thousands of people who weren't interested in politics are now waking up and trying to get involved. How can this not be good?
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OP - I agree that this is a battle of consciousness, but there is no reason to criticize those who are putting all their energy into Ron Paul. To many, Ron Paul represents change, truth. I see it as a very positive sign that Ron's success continues to grow. While I agree that one man cannot change everything, it is the people who are waking up. Thousands of people who weren't interested in politics are now waking up and trying to get involved. How can this not be good?
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It was just an observation. Ron Paul's success indeed proves that people are waking up. My point is that there is much much more to the big story. Many are losing the forest for the trees.