dbl christ User ID: 310071 United States 11/14/2007 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 NEWS) - The fate of more than a dozen crosses honoring fallen UHP troopers was left in the hands of a federal court judge on Tuesday.
The issue was taken to court after a group of atheists sued the state claiming the crosses violate the constitutional separation of church and state. The group is now asking the Utah Highway Patrol Association to remove the 12 foot-crosses because they denote the death of Jesus Christ.
However, the state and UHP troopers say they are memorials to brave public servants and not religious in nature.
The majority of the 13 UHP crosses lie on public property.
The judge said he would take the arguments under consideration and rule soon. Some court observers feel the atheist’s suit against the crosses could be tossed out by the judge, only to be appealed to the Federal 10th Circuit Court in Denver. There was also some talk by lawyers in the courtroom Tuesday that the case could make it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. |
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User ID: 326526 United States 11/14/2007 08:50 PM
Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. Good luck with that one. why do people pick such stupid battles? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 310071 United States 11/14/2007 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. Good luck with that one. why do people pick such stupid battles?
Quoting: mercury2stupid people do stupid things |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326540 United States 11/14/2007 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. its freedom of religion not freedom from
its probably the masonic cops themselves who are offended |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 299382 United States 11/14/2007 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. I thought atheists were still burned at the stake in Utah. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 289164 United States 11/14/2007 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. its freedom of religion not freedom from
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326540No, you are wrong. The constitution mentions 'respecting'. That word is the key. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 326550 United States 11/14/2007 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. "Freedom of" is an court interpretation of the first;
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 310071 United States 11/14/2007 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. "Freedom of" is an court interpretation of the first;
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326550Yet they do all the time to appease the arshols |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 184760 United States 11/14/2007 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. atheists are the weakest form of human being. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 304696 United States 11/14/2007 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. :taphitler: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 142537 United States 11/14/2007 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. Spit on the crosses of the graves of the Gestapo of the Whore of England. |
George W. Bush User ID: 323173 United States 11/15/2007 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. Adolf Hitler was a devout christain who had conversations with god. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25 United States 11/15/2007 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. Where do these numbskulls find it written that there is such a thing as seperation of church and state? If they find it, I'll be surprised. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 125715 United States 11/15/2007 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Atheists in Utah sue the state claiming that crosses honoring fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers are offensive. 1. "Respect" for one's religion cuts both ways. Depriving others of a reasonable expression of their religion is not respect, any more than pushing your religion in others' faces is.
2. If atheists (or whoever) are offended by static, passive crosses on the roadside, marking the death of a highway patolman - or someone's teenager, then DON'T LOOK.
3. The Masons I know approach the cross with respect and would not, in my experience, want such symbols removed.
This nonsense has grown to ridiculous proportions! |