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FBI Raids Liberty Dollar – Confiscates All Ron Paul Dollars

 
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FBI Raids Liberty Dollar – Confiscates All Ron Paul Dollars


Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters:

I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville.

For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.

We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money.

But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken.

This in spite of the fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too.

The possibility of such action was the reason the Liberty Dollar was designed so that the vast majority of the money was in specie form and in the people's hands. Of the $20 million Liberty Dollars, only about a million is in paper or digital form.

I regret that if you are due an order. It may be some time until it will be filled... if ever... it now all depends on our actions.

Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don't let this happen!!! Many of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal – to return America to a value based currency.

Please forward this important Alert... so everyone who possess or use the Liberty Dollar is aware of the situation.

Please click HERE to sign up for the class action lawsuit and get your property back!

If the above link does not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web browser. [link to www.libertydollar.org]

Thanks again for your support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a new low.

Bernard von NotHaus

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Webmaster's comment: Thet the FBI carried out this raid suggests a political motive. Maybe Goerge Bush was jealous because nobody wants to put his face on coins (just toilet paper). If the Liberty Dollar was really an illegal form of currency, the raid would have been carried out by the Treasury Department and Secret Service.
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[link to www.prophecies.org,] Book 12 Chapter 42; receive and be blessed beyond measure!!!
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11/15/2007 02:04 PM
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What is a Ron Paul dollar?
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Find out who ordered the raid and you will find the one backing the NWO.
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Find out who ordered the raid and you will find the one backing the NWO.
 Quoting: Little Star


Pin this please
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What is a Ron Paul dollar?
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[link to www.libertydollar.org]
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strikes for Liberty?"

A Nation Of Sheep Soon Begets A Government Of Wolves

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wtf
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This is getting fucking insane.

I smell a revolution coming.
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This is the type of govt stunt that pushes
common folk over the edge.
The Liberty dollar people were not
harming anyone or anything.
Owners of the medallions were stupid enough
to try to use them as US money, and were arrested.
But,
that is not the issue.
Just look at the idiot who tried to cash
a one million dollar fake bill.

No, this is pure bulldozer politics.
This might just get something going.
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Find out who ordered the raid and you will find the one backing the NWO.


Pin this please
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Deserving of a pin

Here is the Congressional contact info. Time for everyone to get busy:


Senate:
[link to www.senate.gov]

House:
[link to www.house.gov]

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Good post OP. Nice heads up info.
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11/15/2007 02:46 PM
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I may be wrong, but this sets a precedent ...attempting to use gold and silver coins not minted by the Feds is illegal and such coins can be confiscated by the Feds. I guess the Courts will decide...
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11/15/2007 02:54 PM
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Fucking criminals.


You can damn well bet money on who's behind this...
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Bullshit. You can make gold into anything you wish. I dont' see a push for Ron Paul currency. They are keep sakes.

This happened because they know what he's about and know he's a danger. Simple as that.







I may be wrong, but this sets a precedent ...attempting to use gold and silver coins not minted by the Feds is illegal and such coins can be confiscated by the Feds. I guess the Courts will decide...
 Quoting: ac 326846
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An important fact pointed out by BVN...from his press release...

"If the Liberty Dollar was really an illegal form of currency, the raid would have been carried out by the Treasury Department and Secret Service."

WTF ?
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It's pretty obvious that they have declared war on us....
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Alex jones will tell me what to think.
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[link to www.libertydollar.org]
"NEW Ron Paul Dollars now available!"


Andrew Williams, a spokesman for the Federal Reserve in Washington, D.C.:

"There is no law that says goods and services must be paid for with Federal Reserve notes. Parties entering into a transaction can establish any medium of exchange that is agreed upon."
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Why isn't this pinned yet?
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11/15/2007 03:09 PM
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Sounds like to me they dont like the idea!

WHat is wrong with coins that possess real value?

All this does is expose the fraud, and how far those who are perpetrating it will go beyond the law to protect it.
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11/15/2007 03:12 PM
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Can i get a link to the press release... the website says nothing ...

can't take this at face value yet (no pun intended)
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11/15/2007 03:14 PM
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John Titor was right.... watch how it is being made...history I mean.
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An important fact pointed out by BVN...from his press release...

"If the Liberty Dollar was really an illegal form of currency, the raid would have been carried out by the Treasury Department and Secret Service."

WTF ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326868



Secret Service are Treasury agent for the Federal Reserve, which is holding the US in receivership for the IMF / UN

Its no wonder whom left JFK in his motorcade.... they didn't like silver currency much either
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I may be wrong, but this sets a precedent ...attempting to use gold and silver coins not minted by the Feds is illegal and such coins can be confiscated by the Feds. I guess the Courts will decide...
 Quoting: ac 326846


You are free to use and issue whatever currency you wish. However, without the governments approval of the currency, it will not have the status of "Legal Tender" and all contracts and debts using the currency will not be enforceable in their courts.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"At various times in history promissory notes have acted as a form of privately issued currency.

In many jurisdictions today, bearer negotiable promissory notes are illegal precisely because they can act as an alternative currency.

Contrary to this popular belief being perpetuated by the banking community,

House Joint Resolution 192 passed by US Congress in 1933, explicitly cites Promissory Notes, Bills of Exchange, Drafts and the like as legal tender in addition to Federal Reserve Notes.

However, this right is limited only to those persons acting within the admiralty jurisdiction..."

I'm guessing the Liberty Dollars were seized under Admiralty rules because they are still private currency.

Which means private commerce, law merchant, admiralty.
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The US Government has no right to make "currency" in the constitution.

only lawful money
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Nice post EWO!!
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Somebody has brass balls to do something like this! I smell a very lucrative $ivil $uit in the works!

Let's make this yet another backfire on TPTB! I am starting to smell VICTORY!
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Almost chilling to realize almost everything he said is 2 years off huh...

John Titor was right.... watch how it is being made...history I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52612
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Maybe this company just wants to keep everyones cash. Any other news reports about this raid??
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No other reports ... no official links. I don't think it happend

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