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Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!

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The Commentator
User ID: 155573
11/16/2007 10:38 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

...

Here is Dr, Musgrave's experience:

NASA EXPERIENCE: Dr. Musgrave was selected as a scientist-astronaut by NASA in August 1967. He completed astronaut academic training and then worked on the design and development of the Skylab Program. He was the backup science-pilot for the first Skylab mission, and was a CAPCOM for the second and third Skylab missions. Dr. Musgrave participated in the design and development of all Space Shuttle extravehicular activity equipment including spacesuits, life support systems, airlocks, and manned maneuvering units. From 1979 to 1982, and 1983 to 1984, he was assigned as a test and verification pilot in the Shuttle Avionics Integration Laboratory at JSC. He served as a spacecraft communicator (CAPCOM) for STS-31, STS-35, STS-36, STS-38 and STS-41, and lead CAPCOM for a number of subsequent flights. He was a mission specialist on STS-6 in 1983, STS-51F/Spacelab-2 in 1985, STS-33 in 1989 and STS-44 in 1991, was the payload commander on STS-61 in 1993, and a mission specialist on STS-80 in 1996. A veteran of six space flights, Dr. Musgrave has spent a total of 1,281 hours 59 minutes, 22 seconds in space. Dr. Musgrave left NASA in August 1997 to pursue private interests.

So I suppose you could say he never was a payload specialist per se, although he was their boss on one flight.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz



A payload Commander is a quite different job from a Payload Specialist.

The Payload Commander is responsible for procedures and operational details of the payload carried whatever that may be. This is primarily a safety position and is a very important job.

A Payload Specialist is not a career astronaut who, by way of specialized experience with a particular payload is deemed important to the payload operation. The best example of the job was Charlie Walker who operated the CFES on three shuttle missions.

A payload spacialist has NO responsibility for Orbiter systems aside from those absolutely needed for the mission, usually how to operate the toilet.

A Mission Specialist is a career astronaut who can be responsible for operation of all spacecraft systems aside from the ascent and entry, which is assigned to the CDR and PLT.

To mistake a payload specialist fwith a mission specialist is like mistaking a butcher for a surgeon.
non sufficit Orbis
Jos
User ID: 279542
11/16/2007 10:40 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Of course they're real. The only question is, is what
is their relationship to us and how is their presence
impacting us.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327483
11/16/2007 10:41 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

what if holmes is actualy a ship
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327463
11/16/2007 10:50 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

...

Here is Dr, Musgrave's experience:

NASA EXPERIENCE: Dr. Musgrave was selected as a scientist-astronaut by NASA in August 1967. He completed astronaut academic training and then worked on the design and development of the Skylab Program. He was the backup science-pilot for the first Skylab mission, and was a CAPCOM for the second and third Skylab missions. Dr. Musgrave participated in the design and development of all Space Shuttle extravehicular activity equipment including spacesuits, life support systems, airlocks, and manned maneuvering units. From 1979 to 1982, and 1983 to 1984, he was assigned as a test and verification pilot in the Shuttle Avionics Integration Laboratory at JSC. He served as a spacecraft communicator (CAPCOM) for STS-31, STS-35, STS-36, STS-38 and STS-41, and lead CAPCOM for a number of subsequent flights. He was a mission specialist on STS-6 in 1983, STS-51F/Spacelab-2 in 1985, STS-33 in 1989 and STS-44 in 1991, was the payload commander on STS-61 in 1993, and a mission specialist on STS-80 in 1996. A veteran of six space flights, Dr. Musgrave has spent a total of 1,281 hours 59 minutes, 22 seconds in space. Dr. Musgrave left NASA in August 1997 to pursue private interests.

So I suppose you could say he never was a payload specialist per se, although he was their boss on one flight.
 Quoting: Duncan Kunz

ZING!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 268884
11/16/2007 10:58 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Don't miss this video: [link to youtube.com]
The OP
User ID: 327423
11/16/2007 11:03 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Oh for fuck's sake.

This alien extra-terrestrial thing is a HOAX people. Wake up. It's a way for TPTB to scare us into a total Orwellian society.

Good grief.

Aliens... pffffttt...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4910

Listen! Captain stupid ignorant has spoken!
LS
User ID: 253961
11/16/2007 11:05 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

...

Here is Dr, Musgrave's experience:

NASA EXPERIENCE: Dr. Musgrave was selected as a scientist-astronaut by NASA in August 1967. He completed astronaut academic training and then worked on the design and development of the Skylab Program. He was the backup science-pilot for the first Skylab mission, and was a CAPCOM for the second and third Skylab missions. Dr. Musgrave participated in the design and development of all Space Shuttle extravehicular activity equipment including spacesuits, life support systems, airlocks, and manned maneuvering units. From 1979 to 1982, and 1983 to 1984, he was assigned as a test and verification pilot in the Shuttle Avionics Integration Laboratory at JSC. He served as a spacecraft communicator (CAPCOM) for STS-31, STS-35, STS-36, STS-38 and STS-41, and lead CAPCOM for a number of subsequent flights. He was a mission specialist on STS-6 in 1983, STS-51F/Spacelab-2 in 1985, STS-33 in 1989 and STS-44 in 1991, was the payload commander on STS-61 in 1993, and a mission specialist on STS-80 in 1996. A veteran of six space flights, Dr. Musgrave has spent a total of 1,281 hours 59 minutes, 22 seconds in space. Dr. Musgrave left NASA in August 1997 to pursue private interests.

So I suppose you could say he never was a payload specialist per se, although he was their boss on one flight.



A payload Commander is a quite different job from a Payload Specialist.

The Payload Commander is responsible for procedures and operational details of the payload carried whatever that may be. This is primarily a safety position and is a very important job.

A Payload Specialist is not a career astronaut who, by way of specialized experience with a particular payload is deemed important to the payload operation. The best example of the job was Charlie Walker who operated the CFES on three shuttle missions.

A payload spacialist has NO responsibility for Orbiter systems aside from those absolutely needed for the mission, usually how to operate the toilet.

A Mission Specialist is a career astronaut who can be responsible for operation of all spacecraft systems aside from the ascent and entry, which is assigned to the CDR and PLT.

To mistake a payload specialist fwith a mission specialist is like mistaking a butcher for a surgeon.
 Quoting: The Commentator


you are pissing over a very minor detail.
The Commentator
User ID: 155573
11/16/2007 11:45 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

...

Here is Dr, Musgrave's experience:

NASA EXPERIENCE: Dr. Musgrave was selected as a scientist-astronaut by NASA in August 1967. He completed astronaut academic training and then worked on the design and development of the Skylab Program. He was the backup science-pilot for the first Skylab mission, and was a CAPCOM for the second and third Skylab missions. Dr. Musgrave participated in the design and development of all Space Shuttle extravehicular activity equipment including spacesuits, life support systems, airlocks, and manned maneuvering units. From 1979 to 1982, and 1983 to 1984, he was assigned as a test and verification pilot in the Shuttle Avionics Integration Laboratory at JSC. He served as a spacecraft communicator (CAPCOM) for STS-31, STS-35, STS-36, STS-38 and STS-41, and lead CAPCOM for a number of subsequent flights. He was a mission specialist on STS-6 in 1983, STS-51F/Spacelab-2 in 1985, STS-33 in 1989 and STS-44 in 1991, was the payload commander on STS-61 in 1993, and a mission specialist on STS-80 in 1996. A veteran of six space flights, Dr. Musgrave has spent a total of 1,281 hours 59 minutes, 22 seconds in space. Dr. Musgrave left NASA in August 1997 to pursue private interests.

So I suppose you could say he never was a payload specialist per se, although he was their boss on one flight.



A payload Commander is a quite different job from a Payload Specialist.

The Payload Commander is responsible for procedures and operational details of the payload carried whatever that may be. This is primarily a safety position and is a very important job.

A Payload Specialist is not a career astronaut who, by way of specialized experience with a particular payload is deemed important to the payload operation. The best example of the job was Charlie Walker who operated the CFES on three shuttle missions.

A payload spacialist has NO responsibility for Orbiter systems aside from those absolutely needed for the mission, usually how to operate the toilet.

A Mission Specialist is a career astronaut who can be responsible for operation of all spacecraft systems aside from the ascent and entry, which is assigned to the CDR and PLT.

To mistake a payload specialist fwith a mission specialist is like mistaking a butcher for a surgeon.


you are pissing over a very minor detail.
 Quoting: LS



Agreed.

But if the small, easy to verify, details are dead, flat wrong, how can you trust the big details to be right? Because you want them to be right? because you think they could be right?

That isn't the way the Real World operates, but then again the folks who propagate this sort of loon drool don't care about facts, hell, if they don't say what you want, make them up!
non sufficit Orbis
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 303515
11/17/2007 1:25 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Space madness.
edgar celadus
User ID: 246327
11/17/2007 1:30 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327538
11/17/2007 1:37 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Its the Nephilim
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 299617
11/17/2007 2:51 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

They (ET) are just making sure we are not about to become space travelers. If a race ever needing containing it is this one on planet earth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326695


Can't let the roaches outta the jar, can we?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275504
11/17/2007 8:01 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Humans like to fight with each other
It's a wonder anything gets built
Have you ever read the engineers oath?
It's heavy, man.
AN ENGINEER'S HIPPOCRATIC OATH [1]

I solemnly pledge myself to consecrate my life to the service of humanity.
I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which is their due;
I will be loyal to the profession of engineering and just and generous to its members;
I will lead my life and practice my profession in uprightness and honor; whatever project I shall undertake, it shall be for the good of mankind to the utmost of my power;

I will keep far away from wrong, from corruption, and from tempting others to vicious practice;
I will exercise my profession solely for the benefit of humanity and perform no act for a criminal purpose, even if solicited, far less suggest it;
I will speak out against evil and unjust practice wheresoever I encounter it;
I will not permit considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics, or social standing to intervene between my duty and my work; even under threat,
I will not use my professional knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity;
I will endeavour to avoid waste and the consumption of non-renewable resources.

I make these promises solemnly, freely, and upon my honor."



[1] In: Ch. SUSSKIND, Understanding Technology, Baltimore and London: The John Hopkins University Press, 1973, p. 118.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327624
11/17/2007 9:51 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

From Earth. The Nazis could build saucer shaped UFO's in the 1940's. These Nazis were brought to the United States after WWII and created NASA and the CIA.

TPTB have very advanced technology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327160


This is true but you have to ask this:
"Where did the Nazis' get the blusprints to build one in the first place".
Also as Germany borders Switzerland home of Billy Mier then isnt it possible that the same ETs who showed him their craft also allowed the Germans to see them .
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327624
11/17/2007 9:56 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Those of us who ARE multi-dimensional and telepathic can only regret that the rest of you don't BOTHER to learn the skill.

We KNOW WE'RE NOT ALONE.

We KNOW there's LOGIC and JUSTICE at work in history.

We KNOW Leadership in the Galaxy and in the Universe surpasses the twisted logic of Alpha Draconis' possessed humans.

But you don't want to listen to you.

You prefer your Hegelian dialectics.

You prefer FIGHTING about evolution (both of which PROCESSES are in full control by Galactic personalities)

You prefer FIGHTING OVER Left and Right; Liberal vs. Conservative; Democrat vs. Republican; Catholic vs. Protestant.

You would rather FIGHT THAN LISTEN TO GOD'S UNIVERSE tell you what is real.

You would rather sit in front of your FUCKING TEEVEE SETS and absorb the BULLSHIT that passes for information, than seek your own truth and research your own issues.

I don't feel sorry for you turkeys anymore. You're too stupefied, too unaware, too insulated.

Chai
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327448


Way to go Chai
White Light .
"You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327624
11/17/2007 9:59 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

Those that CLASSIFY ALL ETS AS "FALLEN ANGELS"

are just about as bright as those who classify all Blacks as the "n word";

all Vietnamese as "gooks"

all Germans as "kikes."

Et cetera.

Whoever sold that "fallen angels" story to MEAN ALL OTHER INTELLIGENT BEINGS IN THE UNIVERSE--

is truly an ignorant bastard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327448


A regular twit poster on GLP called Trained For This tried very hard to convince everyone as I recall
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 114992
11/17/2007 1:37 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

bsflag
LS
User ID: 253961
11/17/2007 1:40 PM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 114992

hey monkey. did you come up with that all by yourself? you must be exhausted.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327947
11/18/2007 12:36 AM
Re: Famed NASA Astronaut Confirms Extraterrestrials Are Here!Quote

you sir are an imboselle and a self centerd fool to think that we are the only one's in the universe is just you own inner fear and ignorence, you need to wake up cause when the day comes and they are proven to be real you will be the fool, just do the math of possablitys X the mass of space and planets u toolbag.


Oh for fuck's sake.

This alien extra-terrestrial thing is a HOAX people. Wake up. It's a way for TPTB to scare us into a total Orwellian society.

Good grief.

Aliens... pffffttt...


Where on earth have you been? We are ALREADY in an Orwellian society. We have NO true freedom and are at the mercy of all those in power. The ET scenario is the only thing plausible and hopeful that could free us. FREE ENERGY is, I think, the key to it all. This could be why our government has worked so hard to create the delusion that aliens don't exist. Media has worked with them to create the alternative for those who are skeptical about the official story and has invented the hostile/evil/demonic alien explanation. The only hoaxes are the denials of ET's existence and that they are all uniformly bent on our destruction. Another possible reason for the denials or false portrayals of aliens is that once they are here in the open, we could leap by quantum amounts spiritually and thereby free ourselves that way. Either way, TPTB are in a state of panic that they can no longer keep the lid on the most important story in history.
 Quoting: Pappy
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