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Some people inthe Muslim community become very leery when talk of coexistence comes up.

 
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Some people inthe Muslim community become very leery when talk of coexistence comes up.
This is because they think that coexistence implies that we have to do away with Islamic Law, or they see it as a deceptive ploy to totally strip Islam of its principles or to introduce into Islamic beliefs and principles from other faiths and creeds.

Another reason why some Muslims are skeptical about the topic of “coexistence” is that they see it as something originating in the West, something concocted by the Western world and promoted by it as a means to submerge Islamic culture and values and make the Muslim world a copy of the West.

The negative understanding of coexistence – which implies compromising on our essential religious beliefs, adopting some of our own and some of other faiths, though they might be contradictory – this is clearly wrong.

Allah says: “So then do you believe in a part of the scripture and deny the rest?” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 85]

Islamic rule is inevitable, there will be the followers of Islam and then the others. (the second class) We will still need some of them to do tacks that are undesirable.
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Islamic rule is inevitable, there will be the followers of Islam and then the others.
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Horseshit!


You're right about coexistence though - they're not interested. It's THEIR way or the highway..

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Man, you sir are as dumb as a bell on a cow. You don't make any frigging sense.

The Muslims, just anyone else wants to be left alone. They are saying leave us alone, stop the occupations, the invasions and the colonizations. Why is that so hard to understand?
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convert or die that's all I hear them say.
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Re: Some people inthe Muslim community become very leery when talk of coexistence comes up.
allah aqabah
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Islamic rule is inevitable, there will be the followers of Islam and then the others.

Horseshit!


You're right about coexistence though - they're not interested. It's THEIR way or the highway..

:hizzy:
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The only 'highway'
is the highway to death
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laugh


right

religion of piece.
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That's why I hate jews.
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allah aqabah
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abracadabra more effective than allah aqabah
Merlin has proof it worked
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convert the world to Islam...all other convert or die!!
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Man, you sir are as dumb as a bell on a cow. You don't make any frigging sense.

The Muslims, just anyone else wants to be left alone. They are saying leave us alone, stop the occupations, the invasions and the colonizations. Why is that so hard to understand?
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bump........LEGION
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That's why I hate jews.
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Finally - the proof that jew-haters are outright morons..

:&ardo:
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I have an Idea
How about we stand up and fight for our freedom..

Nah we'd lose anyway it's a losing cause freedom isn't worth it.

Do I have to change my name?

How does the more than wife thing work?
Are they lezzbos too?
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Man, you sir are as dumb as a bell on a cow. You don't make any frigging sense.

The Muslims, just anyone else wants to be left alone. They are saying leave us alone, stop the occupations, the invasions and the colonizations. Why is that so hard to understand?
 Quoting: DonPedro 223775


The West are saying stop the invasions of our land and stop colonizing and occupation of our countries. Stop with your Sharia Law and honour killings, stop treating our women as dirt, stop trying to court our women so that you get a visa to the West. Stop harrassing our young Hindu girls in colleges and universities, stop threatening us with death to the US and death to the UK. Why is that so hard to understand? The West just wish to be left alone and don't wish to fight the wars for Saudia Arabia anymore. Neither does the West wish to provide financial support for people who have come from oil rich countries. The streets are not paved with gold in the West. The gold is in your own backyard and its called oil, so best you get your leaders to share their wealth with you. Then you would never have to work again or come to the West. We are not interested in your religion, you are welcome to keep it if it satisfies you and brings you home to God of peace, love and mercy for all sentient beings.
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convert or die that's all I hear them say.
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No.. You hear the minority, its the media that hypes it all up and makes a big deal out of nothing.
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convert or die that's all I hear them say.


No.. You hear the minority, its the media that hypes it all up and makes a big deal out of nothing.
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one day just goggle and listen to the speeches of the imams and then come back and tell us that again.
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convert or die that's all I hear them say.


No.. You hear the minority, its the media that hypes it all up and makes a big deal out of nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323602


If that is true then the silent majority would get off their butts and do more to stop the minority from causing chaos. Compassionate action is part of being divine love in manifestation on the earth plane. Those that stay silent have blood on their own hands.
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Re: Some people inthe Muslim community become very leery when talk of coexistence comes up.
Hmm.. like the invasion of Iraq? Asuming you are from the US, then are the Iraqi's blood not on you're hands?
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Re: Some people inthe Muslim community become very leery when talk of coexistence comes up.
You're right about coexistence though - they're not interested. It's THEIR way or the highway..


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you mean just like christians and jews?
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Re: Some people inthe Muslim community become very leery when talk of coexistence comes up.
The West are saying stop the invasions of our land and stop colonizing and occupation of our countries.
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maybe you should first stop invading and occupying their countries all the time, for the last 200 years ....+ native americans, africans, vietnamese, koreans, afghans, iraqis.... the list goes on.

typical that yanks never look in the mirror and then accuse others with the things they have been doing all the time, nonstop. which is why you will never get why 90% of thios planet thinks usa is sheeeet.
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You must understand, the media, governments and religious leaders on both sides cause alot of this war and death, the people that live in these countries have very differnet veiwpoints but are powerless.

They do not deserve to be bombed and killed because of all this bullshit. Its all a massive game being played for control of resources, mostly oil.
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If the people of the US cannot see this then they are no better than the terrorists they wish to defeat!
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The West are saying stop the invasions of our land and stop colonizing and occupation of our countries.


maybe you should first stop invading and occupying their countries all the time, for the last 200 years ....+ native americans, africans, vietnamese, koreans, afghans, iraqis.... the list goes on.

typical that yanks never look in the mirror and then accuse others with the things they have been doing all the time, nonstop. which is why you will never get why 90% of thios planet thinks usa is sheeeet.
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I am not from the US....make no assumptions....
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Hmm.. like the invasion of Iraq? Asuming you are from the US, then are the Iraqi's blood not on you're hands?
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This isn't an Iraq issue, it is a global issue that has been going on since its inception.

All around the world


Iraq MP thanks the US

1. #1285 - Iraqi MP Iyad Jamal Al-Din: We Are Like a Bird Born in a Cage - America Broke the Cage Open, but the Bird Does Not Know How to Fly LBC (Lebanon) - 9/10/2006 - 00:02:31

Iraqi MP Iyad Jamal Al-Din: We Are Like a Bird Born in a Cage - America Broke the Cage Open, but the Bird Does Not Know How to Fly



Following are excerpts from a TV debate with Iraqi MP Iyad Jamal Al-Din, which aired on LBC TV on September 10, 2006.

Iyad Jamal Al-Din: Blessed be America for giving Saddam a good kick, sending him straight into the abyss of jail. Blessed be America for giving Mula Omar a good slap, sending him straight into the garbage bin of history and into the dunghills of oblivion. These people were tiny idols, who humiliated their peoples, and turned Allah's property into states and His servants into slaves. It was the moral duty of America, as the greatest and strongest power in this world, to topple these rodents, who treated their people ferociously. We should be happy. Instead of going to Britain for asylum and to beg for food, we should welcome them, so they can rid us of these despicable dictators, who have plundered Iraq's resources and turned the Iraqis into their slaves. Now there is freedom in Iraq, there are elections. People who never even dreamt of being ministers have become ministers through free elections. We did not know what democracy was until America brought it against our will. We did not want democracy or freedom...

Interviewer: At the same time, one can claim that there is much violence in Iraq, and this might even lead to a civil war. Some officials have acknowledged this. Blood is spilled in Iraq every day. Is this the price of democracy and freedom?

Iyad Jamal Al-Din: Yes, because we do not know what freedom is or what to do with it. We are like a tiny bird born in a cage. Its father and mother were born in the same cage, and so were its ancestors - for the past 1,400 years. Along came America and broke the cage open, but the bird does not know how to fly, because it has never used its wings. We do not know what to do with the values of freedom, because we were born slaves, the sons of slaves, the sons of slaves - for the past 1,400 years, with this inferior culture. I am not talking about the beautiful, tolerant, Islamic religion, which respects humanity. But there is an Arab Islamic culture, which, in many of its aspects... I don't mean all its aspects, because there is the Sufi culture, which is wonderful. But the official culture teaches you to become a slave to the ruler and to obsolete values and traditions. This is why we do not know what to do with the modern values of democracy.

If you wish to view the video = www.memritv.org
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A very brilliant idea would be to ship ALL muslims out to another planet, call it the islamic planet or whatever.

Let them infest another region in space not my planet.
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Re: Some people inthe Muslim community become very leery when talk of coexistence comes up.
This is because they think that coexistence implies that we have to do away with Islamic Law, or they see it as a deceptive ploy to totally strip Islam of its principles or to introduce into Islamic beliefs and principles from other faiths and creeds.

Another reason why some Muslims are skeptical about the topic of “coexistence” is that they see it as something originating in the West, something concocted by the Western world and promoted by it as a means to submerge Islamic culture and values and make the Muslim world a copy of the West.

The negative understanding of coexistence – which implies compromising on our essential religious beliefs, adopting some of our own and some of other faiths, though they might be contradictory – this is clearly wrong.

Allah says: “So then do you believe in a part of the scripture and deny the rest?” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 85]

Islamic rule is inevitable, there will be the followers of Islam and then the others. (the second class) We will still need some of them to do tacks that are undesirable.
 Quoting: astrel 298061


LOL.

Islam is a cult for primitive thinking people. Most muslims are stuck with it and don't really believe any of it.
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You must understand, the media, governments and religious leaders on both sides cause alot of this war and death, the people that live in these countries have very differnet veiwpoints but are powerless.

They do not deserve to be bombed and killed because of all this bullshit. Its all a massive game being played for control of resources, mostly oil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323602


After 9/11 I thought is was about oil, but it isn't about oil. I knew we were being taken for fools and now people are being taken for even bigger fools to believe the oil story! That's exactly what they wish you to believe....
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Islam is a cult for primitive thinking people. Most muslims are stuck with it and don't really believe any of it.
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Nobody needs to be stuck in it in the West.

Councils of Ex-Muslims are starting up

Speech of Maryam Namazie at the launch of the Council of Ex-Muslims (Britain)in London UK on 21.06.07



Mina Ahadi, Ex-Muslim speech


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Well she is a breath of fresh air! - but I havn't heard anything about them from the MSM in Britain.

Came across this scandal brewing in Germany.

Rappin’ With the Jihad

by Baron Bodissey

Muhabbet and Frank-Walter SteinmeierA scandal is brewing in Germany, although there’s not much about it to be found in the English-language media. News stories concerning the incident have appeared — for example, this one in The Daily Telegraph — but they only give a bare-bones description of the event. It’s an official press-release version, describing a feel-good Multicultural occasion when the German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Bernard Kouchner, his French counterpart, did a little off-key musical number in a recording studio with a Turkish-German pop singer.

Nice moment. “We are the World”. Music will bring us together. Etc., etc.

What these MSM stories won’t tell you is the background of the pop singer these two political bozos joined up with for their Terpsichorean moment. Muhabbet — he seems to have only a single name, like Cher, Sting, or Madonna — is not your average Turkish-German rap singer: he has this nasty little habit of promoting violent jihad in his songs.

I first became aware of this story a few days ago through the German blog Politically Incorrect:

“He met the right sound” rejoices the German governmental youth-magazine on the “integration song interpreted by German minister of foreign affairs Steinmeier together with his French colleague Kouchner and the Turkish singer Muhabbet accompanied by some young musicians — a song to promote an open and tolerant Germany. Fair enough, but subsequently it occurred that of all people Muhabbet has some other views about cultural openness and tolerance than intended by Steinmeier.

It should have been a public relations action during the talks between Germany and France about integration issues. Quite awkward though, the German TV midnight-news “Tagesschau” presented the film-maker Esther Schapira (…), who had produced an award winning documentation about the murder of Theo van Gogh by an Islamist. She said in front of the TV-cameras, Muhabbet had come towards her and a colleague of hers after the award winning ceremony and told them van Gogh would have been “lucky, he died so fast”. Muhabbet explained he would have imprisoned and tortured him in the basement first and added: “Ayaan Hirsi Ali has earned death too.”


You can see the Muhabbet video at Politically Incorrect.

This morning I received an email from LP, who had additional information on the Muhabbet-Steinmeier affair:

This is a massive scandal brewing in Germany, which has so far gone unnoticed in the AnI suckhone press and blogs.

On Nov. 12, German foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and his French equivalent Bernard Kouchner joined Turkish-German ethno-rap artist Muhabbet (23) in his studio to record a cheesy song about “Integration” and “Tolerance” and “Respect” and such. It’s silly enough, but not a big deal.


LP included another video clip of the event:

- - - - - - - - -
And he goes on to say:

Muhabbet apparently is touted as some sort of integration wunderkind: He’s a UNICEF-representative for education, and a frontman for the anti-violence campaigns of the ministry for family and education. He flies on the minister’s plane and was dined by the chancellor, Angela Merkel

Muhabbet cartoonWhen Steinmeier’s publicity stunt made the news, the respected and recently decorated ARD-journalist Esther Schapira (ARD is the German BBC) and her co-producer Kamil Taylan remembered Muhabbet: They had met on Oct 20, when Schapira’s film “The day Theo von Gogh died” received the “Prix Europa”. After the ceremony, Muhabbet opined to Schapira and Taylan that he, Muhabbet, would tortured van Gogh in an cellar for days, before killing him. He also volunteered that he would do the same to Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Taylan (57) was about to strangle Muhabbet, when the latter’s manager intervened and tried to de-escalate. An email exchange, now on record, followed.

Esther Schapira went onto primetime TV news and told her story. First, Muhabbet denied the whole incident. Then he said he was misunderstood. Finally he floated a third version: I’ll translate some highlights:

Muhabbet: “… I said to her, that if some people would see that film they would torture and kill the man who made it.”
Newspaper: “So, you never heard about that film, Submission, and that Theo von Gogh was murdered?”
Muhabbet: “No, never. I was in the studio… but upon request by management I’ll soon start to read newspapers…”
[…]
Newspaper: “Well, that’s kind of what actually happened, isn’t it?”
Muhabbet: “Maybe I had a vision, […] or I can see into the past […] When I saw these pictures, the nudity and religion, I asked myself: aren’t the people who check on things? Why isn’t there censorship?…”
Newspaper: “This is legal in Holland and Germany.”
Muhabbet: “I didn’t know that.”

Their interest piqued, the press looked into Muhabbet’s musical offerings. I’ll translate:

a coffin I’ve reserved for you
the streets are mine, God has favored me
fear for your belongings
you’ll all pay dearly
fear for your belongings
you’ll burn in the fire
the end is nigh, you run naked across the meadow
you feel death touching your neck, you are an infidel
pact of wolves, run with the wolf pack
bloody horizon, death is peaceful


…and so on and so on. Tons of it. And this is recent stuff. A YouTube search will quickly yield all sorts of world-dominatin’ heathen-killin’ fag-and-c**t-killin’ wolves, who also have a thing for God. The audience in the videos appears to interpret this as songs about the religio-nationalist Türkish organization “the Grey Wolves”, as they make clear by their hand signs.

Remember: This man is a UNICEF-representative for education, and a frontman for the anti-violence campaigns of the ministry for family and education. He flies on the minister’s plane and was dined by the chancellor.

Oh, and what does the Foreign Minister say now, he who sang with the guy? He asks the media for “more restraint and due care in investigation”, because Muhabbet “has always spoken out in favor of integration and against violence”.

And Muhabbet says: “I’m not violent or fundamentalist… where do these fears come from? My fans are totally relaxed… the single and video will be out next week.”


PI reports that Steinmeier is currently being evasive about the issue. Presumably he will move soon to angry denunciation of his detractors, followed by a long period of “no comment”. Then perhaps he will blame the incident on “insufficient research by my overworked staff” or something similar. Then more of the weaving and bobbing, calls for resignation, and so on…

Or maybe not. We’ll see.
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convert or die that's all I hear them say.


No.. You hear the minority, its the media that hypes it all up and makes a big deal out of nothing.


If that is true then the silent majority would get off their butts and do more to stop the minority from causing chaos. Compassionate action is part of being divine love in manifestation on the earth plane. Those that stay silent have blood on their own hands.
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BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT DEMANDING THAT THE MASSES TAKE ACTION,

FOR IF WE EVER DECIDE TO TAKE ACTION,

IT WILL BECOME THE MOST MASSIVE SLAUGHTER AND BUTCHERY IN KNOWN HISTORY.
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Well she is a breath of fresh air! - but I havn't heard anything about them from the MSM in Britain.

Came across this scandal brewing in Germany.

Rappin’ With the Jihad

by Baron Bodissey

Muhabbet and Frank-Walter SteinmeierA scandal is brewing in Germany, although there’s not much about it to be found in the English-language media. News stories concerning the incident have appeared — for example, this one in The Daily Telegraph — but they only give a bare-bones description of the event. It’s an official press-release version, describing a feel-good Multicultural occasion when the German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Bernard Kouchner, his French counterpart, did a little off-key musical number in a recording studio with a Turkish-German pop singer.

Nice moment. “We are the World”. Music will bring us together. Etc., etc.

What these MSM stories won’t tell you is the background of the pop singer these two political bozos joined up with for their Terpsichorean moment. Muhabbet — he seems to have only a single name, like Cher, Sting, or Madonna — is not your average Turkish-German rap singer: he has this nasty little habit of promoting violent jihad in his songs.

I first became aware of this story a few days ago through the German blog Politically Incorrect:

“He met the right sound” rejoices the German governmental youth-magazine on the “integration song interpreted by German minister of foreign affairs Steinmeier together with his French colleague Kouchner and the Turkish singer Muhabbet accompanied by some young musicians — a song to promote an open and tolerant Germany. Fair enough, but subsequently it occurred that of all people Muhabbet has some other views about cultural openness and tolerance than intended by Steinmeier.

It should have been a public relations action during the talks between Germany and France about integration issues. Quite awkward though, the German TV midnight-news “Tagesschau” presented the film-maker Esther Schapira (…), who had produced an award winning documentation about the murder of Theo van Gogh by an Islamist. She said in front of the TV-cameras, Muhabbet had come towards her and a colleague of hers after the award winning ceremony and told them van Gogh would have been “lucky, he died so fast”. Muhabbet explained he would have imprisoned and tortured him in the basement first and added: “Ayaan Hirsi Ali has earned death too.”


You can see the Muhabbet video at Politically Incorrect.

This morning I received an email from LP, who had additional information on the Muhabbet-Steinmeier affair:

This is a massive scandal brewing in Germany, which has so far gone unnoticed in the AnI suckhone press and blogs.

On Nov. 12, German foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and his French equivalent Bernard Kouchner joined Turkish-German ethno-rap artist Muhabbet (23) in his studio to record a cheesy song about “Integration” and “Tolerance” and “Respect” and such. It’s silly enough, but not a big deal.


LP included another video clip of the event:

- - - - - - - - -
And he goes on to say:

Muhabbet apparently is touted as some sort of integration wunderkind: He’s a UNICEF-representative for education, and a frontman for the anti-violence campaigns of the ministry for family and education. He flies on the minister’s plane and was dined by the chancellor, Angela Merkel

Muhabbet cartoonWhen Steinmeier’s publicity stunt made the news, the respected and recently decorated ARD-journalist Esther Schapira (ARD is the German BBC) and her co-producer Kamil Taylan remembered Muhabbet: They had met on Oct 20, when Schapira’s film “The day Theo von Gogh died” received the “Prix Europa”. After the ceremony, Muhabbet opined to Schapira and Taylan that he, Muhabbet, would tortured van Gogh in an cellar for days, before killing him. He also volunteered that he would do the same to Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Taylan (57) was about to strangle Muhabbet, when the latter’s manager intervened and tried to de-escalate. An email exchange, now on record, followed.

Esther Schapira went onto primetime TV news and told her story. First, Muhabbet denied the whole incident. Then he said he was misunderstood. Finally he floated a third version: I’ll translate some highlights:

Muhabbet: “… I said to her, that if some people would see that film they would torture and kill the man who made it.”
Newspaper: “So, you never heard about that film, Submission, and that Theo von Gogh was murdered?”
Muhabbet: “No, never. I was in the studio… but upon request by management I’ll soon start to read newspapers…”
[…]
Newspaper: “Well, that’s kind of what actually happened, isn’t it?”
Muhabbet: “Maybe I had a vision, […] or I can see into the past […] When I saw these pictures, the nudity and religion, I asked myself: aren’t the people who check on things? Why isn’t there censorship?…”
Newspaper: “This is legal in Holland and Germany.”
Muhabbet: “I didn’t know that.”

Their interest piqued, the press looked into Muhabbet’s musical offerings. I’ll translate:

a coffin I’ve reserved for you
the streets are mine, God has favored me
fear for your belongings
you’ll all pay dearly
fear for your belongings
you’ll burn in the fire
the end is nigh, you run naked across the meadow
you feel death touching your neck, you are an infidel
pact of wolves, run with the wolf pack
bloody horizon, death is peaceful


…and so on and so on. Tons of it. And this is recent stuff. A YouTube search will quickly yield all sorts of world-dominatin’ heathen-killin’ fag-and-c**t-killin’ wolves, who also have a thing for God. The audience in the videos appears to interpret this as songs about the religio-nationalist Türkish organization “the Grey Wolves”, as they make clear by their hand signs.

Remember: This man is a UNICEF-representative for education, and a frontman for the anti-violence campaigns of the ministry for family and education. He flies on the minister’s plane and was dined by the chancellor.

Oh, and what does the Foreign Minister say now, he who sang with the guy? He asks the media for “more restraint and due care in investigation”, because Muhabbet “has always spoken out in favor of integration and against violence”.

And Muhabbet says: “I’m not violent or fundamentalist… where do these fears come from? My fans are totally relaxed… the single and video will be out next week.”


PI reports that Steinmeier is currently being evasive about the issue. Presumably he will move soon to angry denunciation of his detractors, followed by a long period of “no comment”. Then perhaps he will blame the incident on “insufficient research by my overworked staff” or something similar. Then more of the weaving and bobbing, calls for resignation, and so on…

Or maybe not. We’ll see.
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I hope that someone has sent a copy of that to UNICEF.

And the film in question.

Submission


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