So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 293466 United States 11/23/2007 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? The Sun dies every year, from the 21st (solstice, lowest point in the sky) to the 25th, when the Sun reverses and begins to return to its former, higher path, after being stationary for 3 days (biblical hell visit of the Son). At the solstice, the Sun is said to be at its weakest power. |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? The Sun dies every year, from the 21st (solstice, lowest point in the sky) to the 25th, when the Sun reverses and begins to return to its former, higher path, after being stationary for 3 days (biblical hell visit of the Son). At the solstice, the Sun is said to be at its weakest power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 293466True. So you lean more toward the man made scenario of the above? "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 329050 United States 11/23/2007 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Thanks for pinning this. I, too, would like to get to "the bottom" of this theory because I think the whole 2012 year was made up to keep us focused elsewhere, while the real 2012 is actually this year. I'd read some time back that the shift in consciousness would happen when there was a galactic line up with the center of the milky way galaxy. I would think that would cause an electromagnetic shift in our bodies - probably jump start some "junk" DNA, IMO. Trouble is - there's so much freemason garbage out there with the prophecies and religions they started that it's difficult to ferret out the truth - both of what they mean and what's really in store for us that they're trying to hide. So, along with OP, I'll look forward to others' input. Let's get this puppy figured out! |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Thanks for pinning this. I, too, would like to get to "the bottom" of this theory because I think the whole 2012 year was made up to keep us focused elsewhere, while the real 2012 is actually this year. I'd read some time back that the shift in consciousness would happen when there was a galactic line up with the center of the milky way galaxy. I would think that would cause an electromagnetic shift in our bodies - probably jump start some "junk" DNA, IMO. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329050Trouble is - there's so much freemason garbage out there with the prophecies and religions they started that it's difficult to ferret out the truth - both of what they mean and what's really in store for us that they're trying to hide. So, along with OP, I'll look forward to others' input. Let's get this puppy figured out! Could be this year..another posters (can't remember who) has done some interesting calendar research pointing to 2032, that the translation was one 20 year cycle off..something like that. Either way DC points to dec this year for something big... Hope your right and a mass energetic shift wipes the plate so to speak. Can anyone speculate intelligently on the dynamics of a solar shutoff and what it would mean for life on earth? "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? for the night crew "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 327185 United States 11/23/2007 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? with just a little luck it will be the end of karma, the end of carrying a cross and the full understanding that life should be full of love, fun, adventure, learning and cooperation as we are designed to grow and prosper. Cheers! |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? with just a little luck it will be the end of karma, the end of carrying a cross and the full understanding that life should be full of love, fun, adventure, learning and cooperation as we are designed to grow and prosper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327185Cheers! While I agree with your stated purpose for life, I doubt thats what the fountain represents, given that most the other features on the line involve the taking of life...and lots of it. Still, one can always hope =) "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 327185 United States 11/23/2007 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? if there were a world wide staged laying down of the crosses on every person's back, i bet the whole world would suddenly be breathing easier. think of all the religious crap that feeds guilty consciences, when free will is and always has been our birth right. surely this is necessary for any world wide rebirth/reawakening experience. |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? if there were a world wide staged laying down of the crosses on every person's back, i bet the whole world would suddenly be breathing easier. think of all the religious crap that feeds guilty consciences, when free will is and always has been our birth right. surely this is necessary for any world wide rebirth/reawakening experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327185I totally agree. But what could prompt such a relinquishing of agenda? "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 330639 United States 11/23/2007 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Skeptics might say that 12 tribes of Judah were based on the zodiac, but the division of the twelve signs of the zodiac didn't occur until the 5th century B.C., well after the time of the 12 tribes. As the sun passes through the equinoxes, it's moving in a straight line north-to-south or south-to-north. How does a straight line make a cross? What is the east-west line |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? The Sun never stops moving. There is no three-day period when the sun's movement in relation to the earth stops altogether. It may appear to slow for those three days, but since the slowing of the movement is a gradual thing, one could argue that it 'stops' for the one, two, four, five, or six days around the winter solstice as well (it depends on how slow you consider 'stopping'). And besides all of that, Jesus' resurrection happened in the spring, not in December. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 330639Skeptics might say that 12 tribes of Judah were based on the zodiac, but the division of the twelve signs of the zodiac didn't occur until the 5th century B.C., well after the time of the 12 tribes. As the sun passes through the equinoxes, it's moving in a straight line north-to-south or south-to-north. How does a straight line make a cross? What is the east-west line This scenario descries a "going out" of the sun as in light switch off, and given the sun is a plasma induction event ala electric universe model, the right currents/cross currents could temporarily shut it down. Now being a incandescent plasma body, it's damn hot so if the current is switched off it would still glow red(maybe this is when we'll see the second sun brown dwarf lol!) The cross is actually two fold, the mundane cross and the celestial cross, when they lineup to form the eight pointed star is when this is supposed to happen...watched a great youtube on it...trying to find. The milkyway equator is one of the lines... Anybody out there star savvy? "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? In fact anyone out there bible savvy on the three days of darkness passage??? Where's that online bible... "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 327185 United States 11/23/2007 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? it doesn't quite matter. we are born with a will that works with divine will and i have reason to believe people who die in bondage to adverse ideology are given 3 days after they are pronounced dead to make their final free choice. i believe the world is changing where we do not have to shed our bodies any more in order to release ourselves from bondage; we will be ascended enough to make higher realm decisions all the time. |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Interesting, though they are "prophesy" sites, many of these I've visited talk about a cross in the sky appearing before the "3 days of darkness" Things that make one go hmmmmmm.... "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
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sparkie User ID: 272605 United States 11/23/2007 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? You Are The Living Light Remember your Divinity Remember your Origin Re-claim your Birthright:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Oneness of ALL That Is & No Light from the sun for three days:::Kno that 'The United Forces Of Light'from the COUNCIL of ALL Councils have this site within this place [link to home.iae.nl] |
sparkie User ID: 272605 United States 11/23/2007 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? i be not to sweft with use of pc let it be i try agine [link to home.iae.nl] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 330621 United Arab Emirates 11/23/2007 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Here's an interesting site. [link to www.fourmilab.ch] Just type in the date: 2007-12-21 and click Update. You will see a cross formation, with the planet Neptune on the right, outside of the cross. On the vertical line: Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto. On the horizontal line: Saturn, Venus, Sun, Uranus. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16644 New Zealand 11/23/2007 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? "This time of the Sun being darkened is mentioned in the bible, happening during the time of major warfare and military invasions around the land of Israel & greater Middle East." (So when this turning off of the Sun happens the whole of the universe quakes quite violently.) Isaiah 13: 10, The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light. 13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble; and the earth will shake from its place at the wrath of the LORD Almighty, in the day of his burning anger. --------------------------------- (It is mentioned that the Sun will be covered with some kind of 'cloud', maybe its not a literal cloud, just meaning its blackening out. Also God's words about 'snuffing' out Israel, can also be used in relation to the snuffing out of the Sun, snuff means-'to extinguish by or as if by the use of a candlesnuffer'-some external force will extinguished the Suns plasma power perhaps) Ezekiel 32: 7 When I snuff you out, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light. 8 All the shining lights in the heavens I will darken over you; I will bring darkness over your land, declares the Sovereign LORD. --------------------------------- (Will this be just the extinguishing of the Sun? Or will all othe the stars/suns also be snuffed out as well for some reason?) Joel 2: 10 Before them the earth shakes, the sky trembles, the sun and moon are darkened, and the stars no longer shine. Joel 3: 15 The sun and moon will be darkened, and the stars no longer shine. --------------------------------- (The stars falling from the sky, could this be referring to asteriods being thrown to Earth from the Asteriod belt?) Matthew 24 29 "Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.' -------------------------------- (So the heavenly bodies, all the planets & moons will be quaking from the force of this solar event) Mark 13 24"But in those days, following that distress, " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.' ------------------------------- (Due to this solar event happening, and also because the planets, moons are all quaking and perhaps moving out of the positions like snooker balls moving all over the table. The Earth's Moon quakes and moves, which causes the 'roaring and tossing of the sea' the violent & fast movement of the seas tidal levels, causing no doubt huge tidal waves around the world.) Luke 21 25"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. -------------------------------- (The stars/asteriods falling to the Earth is described as happening due to some kind of shaking from a strong kind of solar wind/force of some sort, throwing them out of their positions to Earth and in all other directions) Revelation 6 12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14 The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. -------------------------------- Who know just how long this shutting off of the Sun and the shaking of all the universe will actually go for? Maybe minutes, I wouldn't say days, otherwise that would be a universal killer for all of Earths inhabitants. |
FightingSpirit User ID: 330599 United Kingdom 11/23/2007 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? it doesn't quite matter. we are born with a will that works with divine will and i have reason to believe people who die in bondage to adverse ideology are given 3 days after they are pronounced dead to make their final free choice. i believe the world is changing where we do not have to shed our bodies any more in order to release ourselves from bondage; we will be ascended enough to make higher realm decisions all the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327185THAT is very interesting...Hmmmm... "Pray for solace..Pray for resolve..Pray for a savior..Pray for deliverance..Some kind of purpose..A glimpse of a LIGHT in this VOID OF EXISTENCE..Now witness the END of an age..Hope dies in hands of believers..Who seek the truth in the LIAR'S EYE" "The greatest TRICK the Devil ever pulled was not convincing the world he doesn't exist..But convincing it that he is GOD" "I have no pleasure in any man who despises music. It is no invention of ours: It is a gift of GOD. I place it next to theology. Satan hates music: He knows how it drives the EVIL spirit OUT of US." - Martin Luther "What have I done?..Where have I come from?..When I burnt the backs with the SUN through a GLASS..Did I SEAL the loss that's become me?.. Feeling undone..What have I become? ..When I turned my back on you..I turned my back on MYSELF and became this MACHINE" "What you IGNORE now..Will come OUT of YOU later" "Stones to throw at my Creator.. MASOCHISTS to which I cater..You don't need to bother..I don't need to be..I'll keep slipping farther.. But once I hold on..I won't let go 'til it BLEEDS" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? "This time of the Sun being darkened is mentioned in the bible, happening during the time of major warfare and military invasions around the land of Israel & greater Middle East." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16644(So when this turning off of the Sun happens the whole of the universe quakes quite violently.) Isaiah 13: 10, The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light.................. Who know just how long this shutting off of the Sun and the shaking of all the universe will actually go for? Maybe minutes, I wouldn't say days, otherwise that would be a universal killer for all of Earths inhabitants. Thanks for the references! Some thoughts...the "sack-clothe" covering the sun/moon/stars and especially the red color reference suggests to me a large volcanic eruption. And if the sun does "go out" and it's mag field goes down, I'd imagine the forces keeping the earth's spin/wobble steady would weaken. A wobbling world would look from our perspective like the "heavens" are being shaken. Certainly the earth would be jolted and shake to readjust but i doubt for the whole 3 days. |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/23/2007 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Thanks for the references! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 130291Some thoughts...the "sack-clothe" covering the sun/moon/stars and especially the red color reference suggests to me a large volcanic eruption. And if the sun does "go out" and it's mag field goes down, I'd imagine the forces keeping the earth's spin/wobble steady would weaken. A wobbling world would look from our perspective like the "heavens" are being shaken. Certainly the earth would be jolted and shake to readjust but i doubt for the whole 3 days. Was me. "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 142537 United States 11/23/2007 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? The Sun dies every year, from the 21st (solstice, lowest point in the sky) to the 25th, when the Sun reverses and begins to return to its former, higher path, after being stationary for 3 days (biblical hell visit of the Son). At the solstice, the Sun is said to be at its weakest power. Quoting: Tree SamuraiTrue. So you lean more toward the man made scenario of the above? I always choose to lean toward the reality of the yearly cosmology story in the sky rather than the humanized rendition of that cosmic story by religion, making the Sun into a Son of God. The human story is a good aid to truth but it is never the real truth. |
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Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/24/2007 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? The Sun dies every year, from the 21st (solstice, lowest point in the sky) to the 25th, when the Sun reverses and begins to return to its former, higher path, after being stationary for 3 days (biblical hell visit of the Son). At the solstice, the Sun is said to be at its weakest power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 142537True. So you lean more toward the man made scenario of the above? I always choose to lean toward the reality of the yearly cosmology story in the sky rather than the humanized rendition of that cosmic story by religion, making the Sun into a Son of God. The human story is a good aid to truth but it is never the real truth. I meant whether you think the omega point will be a solar event or man made "terror". "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Tree Samurai (OP) User ID: 130291 United States 11/24/2007 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? the sun without the moon over there is still have light Quoting: Anonymous Coward 269621the moon without the sun over there is nothing :p W....T....F??? "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
Hold the Phone User ID: 330765 United States 11/24/2007 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Sunrise and sunset Dec. 21 Twi: 7:12am Sunrise: 7:46am Sunset: 4:32pm Twi: 5:06pm Moonrise: 2:04pm Moonset: 5:13am Dec. 22 Twi: 7:13am Sunrise: 7:47am Sunset: 4:33pm Twi: 5:07pm Moonrise: 2:53pm Moonset: 6:35am Dec. 23 Twi: 7:13am Sunrise: 7:47am Sunset: 4:33pm Twi: 5:07pm Moonrise: 3:57pm Moonset: 7:48am Full Moon: 7:16pm Dec. 24 Twi: 7:14am Sunrise: 7:48am Sunset: 4:34pm Twi: 5:08pm Moonrise: 5:11pm Moonset: 8:47am Dec. 25 Twi: 7:14am Sunrise: 7:48am Sunset: 4:34pm Twi: 5:08pm Moonrise: 6:31pm Moonset: 9:32a These days have the exact same number of hours of daylight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20006 United States 11/24/2007 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Thanks for pinning this. I, too, would like to get to "the bottom" of this theory because I think the whole 2012 year was made up to keep us focused elsewhere, while the real 2012 is actually this year. I'd read some time back that the shift in consciousness would happen when there was a galactic line up with the center of the milky way galaxy. I would think that would cause an electromagnetic shift in our bodies - probably jump start some "junk" DNA, IMO. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329050Trouble is - there's so much freemason garbage out there with the prophecies and religions they started that it's difficult to ferret out the truth - both of what they mean and what's really in store for us that they're trying to hide. So, along with OP, I'll look forward to others' input. Let's get this puppy figured out! no youre totally off 2012 is 2012, cant you see the changes happening are all in preparation for this time |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20006 United States 11/24/2007 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? Thanks for pinning this. I, too, would like to get to "the bottom" of this theory because I think the whole 2012 year was made up to keep us focused elsewhere, while the real 2012 is actually this year. I'd read some time back that the shift in consciousness would happen when there was a galactic line up with the center of the milky way galaxy. I would think that would cause an electromagnetic shift in our bodies - probably jump start some "junk" DNA, IMO. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 329050Trouble is - there's so much freemason garbage out there with the prophecies and religions they started that it's difficult to ferret out the truth - both of what they mean and what's really in store for us that they're trying to hide. So, along with OP, I'll look forward to others' input. Let's get this puppy figured out! no youre totally off 2012 is 2012, cant you see the changes happening are all in preparation for this time |