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| von Doom
User ID: 290582
11/24/2007 2:20 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
watch stock market Monday take a beating .This is a sad day for Australia we are going back to the stoneage.
Its TRUE.....
Liberals have no brains...just emotions..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 330830
That's a rather emotional statement you just made, being that there is no factual evidence to support your claims. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19003
11/24/2007 2:41 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Now were Krud. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 323477
11/24/2007 3:50 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Fucking, eh? Quoting: kalamity kool
I dont think Aussies say eh, that's Canadian... eh? |
| Go Kev
User ID: 36218
11/24/2007 3:50 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
I never, never post here on this forum (although have found it hugely amusing & have loitered here since its birth), but today is such a great one,a huge change for the best in Australia. A beautiful full moon shone down on us last night as Australians woke up & did the RIGHT thing at last.
Now it's up to America to do the RIGHT thing next year & this poor little planet just might get back on course. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 323477
11/24/2007 3:52 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
I live in oz and couldnt be happier.Finally rid of the mini dictator screwing around with workers rights. He is like all liberal minded politicians..ie bow to big buisness...suck up the elites arse and stuff the ordinary man in the street who's taxes are what is keeping this great country alive.
the funny thing is, is that liberal has the opposite meaning here in the states. Quoting: LS
How observant of you.
I see, however, that the nazi losers associate everything with the Jews... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 323477
11/24/2007 4:02 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
So Ozz'ies what's the real deal here. About all I know is that he's been in Iraq, He shut down a major city to host Bush, the war time economy seems to be going well, and it seemed like there was a small crackdown on dissent (compared to the US). Is Labour winning akin to the US democrats: same destination different path? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323302
Nothing is akin to US politics. Specifically, no party in Aussieland or most other places is akin to the extreme rightwing Dems or the ultra extreme rightwing Repugs... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 311704
11/24/2007 4:05 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
I wonder what the RUDD INITIATION will be.
JOHNNY had the HOBART MASSACRE
GWB had 911
BLAIR had the DEATH OF DIANA
RUDD............? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 290186
11/24/2007 4:26 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
what spin doctors in australian politics are Bilderberg?
Well the guy that headed up British Airways for 5 years got back to Aus. 2 years ago and he is hand in glove with the federal labor party. He is also an insider with Murdoch. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 323477
11/24/2007 4:29 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Australia is firmly within the anglo axis and will not deviate too much from that historical alliance.
The US and UK somehow maintain a stranglehold over successive Canadian and Australian governemnts and society -- traced to the colonial era and where they automatically sacrifice what appears to be a blood debt. It is a recognition that the greater AnI suckowers perserve a way of life -- cultural, racial, economic, and linguistic -- which the lesser powers must submit and defer their indepedence...
Too bad that in this scenario domestic politics plays a minor role, and so therefore the rhetoric and optimism of change is always too little and too late....
Sorry to splash cold water on your party,,, |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 247321
11/24/2007 4:46 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
 I noted the MJ party was not on the ballot paper this time, bummer. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 290186
11/24/2007 4:50 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
did anyone watch Rudd on the 7.30 report on Thursday night?
There was a very direct message there to PTB about how the jewish holocaust was so important, so awful, so outrageous to all Australians that he would never let it happen again.
(I guess he doesn't consider the Cambodian, Russian or Rwandan genocides significant)
Oh and on another matter JAMES C HATHAWAY - (UNHCR’s man on the ground for international refugees) has been moved into position as head of Melbourne University Law School.
Now that was 2 months AHEAD of the election.
If anyone thinks that they "voted" for anyone in the election they are kidding themselves. You might have liked the result, but don't imagine you had any say in it.
Oh and don't think "working families", or redistribution of wealth will happen. The money will go off shore to the internationalists coffers and the average aussie will be left with huge interest rate hikes, 25% GST, and a whole bunch of new neighbours before you know it.
And we will be licking the same arse with even more energy. |
| jonk
User ID: 331037
11/24/2007 5:22 PM
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did anyone watch Rudd on the 7.30 report on Thursday night?
There was a very direct message there to PTB about how the jewish holocaust was so important, so awful, so outrageous to all Australians that he would never let it happen again.
(I guess he doesn't consider the Cambodian, Russian or Rwandan genocides significant)
Oh and on another matter JAMES C HATHAWAY - (UNHCR’s man on the ground for international refugees) has been moved into position as head of Melbourne University Law School.
Now that was 2 months AHEAD of the election.
If anyone thinks that they "voted" for anyone in the election they are kidding themselves. You might have liked the result, but don't imagine you had any say in it.
Oh and don't think "working families", or redistribution of wealth will happen. The money will go off shore to the internationalists coffers and the average aussie will be left with huge interest rate hikes, 25% GST, and a whole bunch of new neighbours before you know it.
And we will be licking the same arse with even more energy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 290186
Yeah, saw that on the 7:30 Report re: the Joo stuff, his wife's surname is Rein - I mean, he has to let the Joo crowd in Melbourne know he's all Israel friendly. Pity, but you don't get elected now unless you court them.
Don't ask me about the length, what about the width. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 329564
11/24/2007 5:33 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Voting is the most effective way to inflict harm on your fellow man without bullets. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 231295
11/24/2007 6:00 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
labour sent us broke last time with massive overseas debt took 11 years for libs to wipe it out.Now there back watch our economy go down the stit shute again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322684 |
| Melaniki
User ID: 231295
11/24/2007 6:05 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
"Justice can span years or centuries, retribution is not accomodated by a calendar."....Serling
"Fate has terrible power, it cannot be escaped by wealth or war." ....Sophocles
"Be not deceived, God is not mocked, whatever man sows, man shall also reap." ...The Holy Scriptures
THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE BLACKS (In Aboriginal Australia)
The isolation of Tasmania's Black aborigines ended in 1642 with the arrival and intrusion of the first Europeans. Abel Jansen Tasman, the Dutch navigator after whom the island is named, anchored off the Tasmanian coast in early December, 1642. Tasman named the island Van Diemen's land, after Anthony Van Diemen--the governor-general of the Dutch East India Company. The island continued to be called Van Diemen's Land until 1855.
On March 5, 1772, a French expedition led by Nicholas Marion du Fresne landed on the island. Within a few hours his sailors had shot several Aborigines. On January 28, 1777, the British landed on the island. Following coastal New South Wales in Australia, Tasmania was established as a British convict settlement in 1803. These convicts had been harshly traumatized and were exceptionally brutal. In addition to soldiers, administrators, and missionaries, eventually more than 65,000 men and women convicts were settled in Tasmania. A glaringly inefficient penal system allowed such convicts to escape into the Tasmanian hinterland where they exercised the full measure of their blood-lust and brutality upon the island's Black occupants. According to social historian Clive Turnbull, the activities of these criminals would soon include the "shooting, bashing out brains, burning alive, and slaughter of Aborigines for dogs' meat."
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PART 2
TASMANIAN DEVILS IN HUMAN FORM
As early as 1804 the British began to slaughter, kidnap and enslave the Black people of Tasmania. The colonial government itself was not even inclined to consider the aboriginal Tasmanians as full human beings, and scholars began to discuss civilization as a unilinear process with White people at the top and Black people at the bottom. To the Europeans of Tasmania the Blacks were an entity fit only to be exploited in the most sadistic of manners--a sadism that staggers the imagination and violates all human morality. As UCLA professor, Jared Diamond, recorded:
"Tactics for hunting down Tasmanians included riding out on horseback to shoot them, setting out steel traps to catch them, and putting out poison flour where they might find and eat it. Sheperds cut off the penis and testicles of aboriginal men, to watch the men run a few yards before dying. At a hill christened Mount Victory, settlers slaughtered 30 Tasmanians and threw their bodies over a cliff. One party of police killed 70 Tasmanians and dashed out the children's brains."
Such vile and animalistic behavior on the part of the White settlers of Tasmania was the rule rather than the exception. In spite of their wanton cruelty, however, punishment in Tasmania was exceedingly rare for the Whites, although occasionally Whites were sentenced for crimes against Blacks. For example, there is an account of a man who was flogged for exhibiting the ears and other body parts of a Black boy that he had mutilated alive. We hear of another European punished for cutting off the little finger of an Aborigine and using it as a tobacco stopper. Twenty-five lashes were stipulated for Europeans convicted of tying aboriginal "Tasmanian women to logs and burning them with firebrands, or forcing a woman to wear the head of her freshly murdered husband on a string around her neck."
Not a single European, however, was ever punished for the murder of Tasmanian Aborigines. Europeans thought nothing of tying Black men to trees and using them for target practice. Black women were kidnapped, chained and exploited as sexual slaves. White convicts regularly hunted Black people for sport, casually shooting, spearing or clubbing the men to death, torturing and raping the women, and roasting Black infants alive. As historian, James Morris, graphically noted:
"We hear of children kidnapped as pets or servants, of a woman chained up like an animal in a sheperd's hut, of men castrated to keep them off their own women. In one foray seventy aborigines were killed, the men shot, the women and children dragged from crevices in the rocks to have their brains dashed out. A man called Carrotts, desiring a native woman, decapitated her husband, hung his head around her neck and drove her home to his shack."
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PART 3
THE BLACK WAR
"The Black War of Van Diemen's Land" was the name of the official campaign of terror directed against the Black people of Tasmania. Between 1803 and 1830 the Black aborigines of Tasmania were reduced from an estimated five-thousand people to less than seventy-five. An article published December 1, 1826 in the Tasmanian Colonial Times declared that:
"We make no pompous display of Philanthropy. The Government must remove the natives--if not, they will be hunted down like wild beasts and destroyed!"
With the declaration of martial law in November 1828, Whites were authorized to kill Blacks on sight. Although the Blacks offered a heroic resistance, the wooden clubs and sharpened sticks of the Aborigines were no match against the firepower, ruthlessness, and savagery exercised by the Europeans against them. In time, a bounty was declared on Blacks, and "Black catching," as it was called, soon became a big business; five pounds for each adult Aborigine, two pounds for each child. After considering proposals to capture them for sale as slaves, poison or trap them, or hunt them with dogs, the government settled on continued bounties and the use of mounted police.
After the Black War, for political expediency, the status of the Blacks, who were no longer regarded as a physical threat, was reduced to that of a nuisance and a bother, and with loud and pious exclamations that it was for the benefit of the Blacks themselves, the remainder of the Aborigines were rounded up and placed in concentration camps.
In 1830 George Augustus Robinson, a Christian missionary, was hired to round up the remaining Tasmanian Blacks and take them to Flinders Island, thirty miles away. Many of Robinson's captives died along the way. By 1843 only fifty survived. Jared Diamond recorded that:
"On Flinders Island Robinson was determined to civilize and Christianize the survivors. His settlement--at a windy site with little fresh water--was run like a jail. Children were separated from parents to facilitate the work of civilizing them. The regimental daily schedule included Bible reading, hymn singing, and inspection of beds and dishes for cleanness and neatness. However, the jail diet caused malnutrition, which combined with illness to make the natives die. Few infants survived more than a few weeks. The government reduced expenditures in the hope that the native would die out. By 1869 only Truganini, one other woman, and one man remained alive."
[link to www.cwo.com] |
| Melaniki
User ID: 231295
11/24/2007 6:12 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
FOLLOW UP:
European Australia's destruction of the black indigenous peoples who lived there, was matched in brutality only by its sister European nations to the West in the Americas. Among them, America's system of lynchings...
“American history is longer, larger, more various, more beautiful, and more terrible than anything anyone has ever said about it”
James Baldwin.
The burned and mutilated body of Jesse Washington (Library of Congress)
His name was Jesse Washington, a 17-year-old black youth who was born in rural Texas in 1897. He worked on a farm outside Waco which belonged to George and Lucy Fryer. In May, 1916, Washington was convicted in City Court of murdering Lucy Fryer. During the proceedings, he apologized and confessed to the crime. At the end of the trial, Washington was sentenced to death by hanging. Residents, however, were already in an uproar over the crime. A black man who attacked a white woman in any way whatsoever during that era in the South evoked little sympathy from the public. Within five minutes of the sentencing, dozens of court spectators jumped the railing, fought with officials and seized the terrified defendant. He was immediately set upon by a vicious gang using clubs, shovels and bricks. He was stripped naked and dragged kicking and screaming to the lawn directly in front of City Hall. Townspeople had already built a giant bonfire underneath a large tree. The crowd was later estimated to be as large as 15,000 people. Included in the cheering multitude was the Police Chief and the Mayor of Waco. Other police officers also stood by during the sickening ordeal which played out in the symbolic shadow of City Hall (Dallas Morning News, June 2, 1998). Washington was immersed in coal oil, hoisted up onto the tree and slowly lowered into the fire. Some of the spectators cut off fingers and toes from the corpse as souvenirs [1]. His remains were dumped into a burlap bag and hung from a pole while many in the crowd cheered [2]
The Waco lynching focused national attention, once again, in 1916 on the problem of lynching: a systemic, persistent and horrifying practice that was rampant throughout the South for decades. These killings were often committed with the full knowledge, and sometimes with the active assistance, of law enforcement people. Lynchings were also treated as entertainment events and like the Waco incident, often attended by thousands of onlookers. Most took place in the Deep South but lynchings were common and recorded in over 26 states, including Illinois and North Dakota (Cleveland Gazette, January 8, 1898, p. 2).
[link to www.crimelibrary.com] |
| alaaaan
User ID: 331060
11/24/2007 6:17 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Well,im sure glad he finally pissed off,Makin everyone work like slaves at the managers feet,what a creepy overlord he turned into.BUT if only he had realised the situations vacant people are the great mass of australians and treated us with some dignity he may have been allowed to stay on,,,at a reduced rate with no penalties of course.yes thats it lets re.employ him at a lower pay rate and seehow he likes it
WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT i hope rudd is not like the old boss |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 231295
11/24/2007 6:18 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
FOLLOW UP:
European Australia's destruction of the black indigenous peoples who lived there, was matched in brutality only by its sister European nations to the West in the Americas. Among them, America's system of lynchings...
“American history is longer, larger, more various, more beautiful, and more terrible than anything anyone has ever said about it”
James Baldwin.
The burned and mutilated body of Jesse Washington (Library of Congress)
His name was Jesse Washington, a 17-year-old black youth who was born in rural Texas in 1897. He worked on a farm outside Waco which belonged to George and Lucy Fryer. In May, 1916, Washington was convicted in City Court of murdering Lucy Fryer. During the proceedings, he apologized and confessed to the crime. At the end of the trial, Washington was sentenced to death by hanging. Residents, however, were already in an uproar over the crime. A black man who attacked a white woman in any way whatsoever during that era in the South evoked little sympathy from the public. Within five minutes of the sentencing, dozens of court spectators jumped the railing, fought with officials and seized the terrified defendant. He was immediately set upon by a vicious gang using clubs, shovels and bricks. He was stripped naked and dragged kicking and screaming to the lawn directly in front of City Hall. Townspeople had already built a giant bonfire underneath a large tree. The crowd was later estimated to be as large as 15,000 people. Included in the cheering multitude was the Police Chief and the Mayor of Waco. Other police officers also stood by during the sickening ordeal which played out in the symbolic shadow of City Hall (Dallas Morning News, June 2, 1998). Washington was immersed in coal oil, hoisted up onto the tree and slowly lowered into the fire. Some of the spectators cut off fingers and toes from the corpse as souvenirs [1]. His remains were dumped into a burlap bag and hung from a pole while many in the crowd cheered [2]
The Waco lynching focused national attention, once again, in 1916 on the problem of lynching: a systemic, persistent and horrifying practice that was rampant throughout the South for decades. These killings were often committed with the full knowledge, and sometimes with the active assistance, of law enforcement people. Lynchings were also treated as entertainment events and like the Waco incident, often attended by thousands of onlookers. Most took place in the Deep South but lynchings were common and recorded in over 26 states, including Illinois and North Dakota (Cleveland Gazette, January 8, 1898, p. 2).
[ link to www.crimelibrary.com]
And white people in America wonder why black people have a problem with the sight of nooses, it is because of the memory burned into the DNA of acts of brutality so horrific, the blood remembers when the mind forgets. |
| Awakened Me
User ID: 329327
11/24/2007 6:35 PM
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hopefully everything goes well for the aussies... would be nice to see a country ruled primarily by the average man, instead of befalling the elite who keep pushing their socialist agenda forward.
ill keep my fingers crossed
I live in oz and couldnt be happier.Finally rid of the mini dictator screwing around with workers rights. He is like all liberal minded politicians..ie bow to big buisness...suck up the elites arse and stuff the ordinary man in the street who's taxes are what is keeping this great country alive.
the funny thing is, is that liberal has the opposite meaning here in the states. Quoting: LS
yeah, it does, but the mainstream liberals (authority wise, not the average people) here are more progressive, or communist than anything, and coax people into their system with lies... they push for some liberties while shredding others and help in the building of a more powerful government. There are a few exceptions tho.
What we need is an abolishment of the current electoral system, our two party system just keeps screwing the people. (i know, there are more than 2 parties, but the others are brushed away as nonexistent by the mainstream).
THing is, Democrat and republican party are bullshit. we dont need dem's or rep's, we need some REAL AMERICANS without a fucking label. its like cookies, some people prefer oreo, and some want keebler, and most will still eat of their choice brand even if it tastes like shit
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!
A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
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In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.
This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.
I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine!
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as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi
"the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me |
| Matrix
User ID: 321343
11/24/2007 6:56 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
The new Prime minister Kevin Rudd has also pledged to hold a referendum during his term, on cutting ties with the British royals.
Interesting.....
Yeah, we already had one of those a few years back. It failed.
That's right. Because the 'presidential' model that John Coward proposed was bullshit.
It was never a question of whether Australians wanted the Queen. It was a question of the shonky model proposed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 328902
Any split away from the crown will be a "shonky model", without the protection of the crown, because the corporations taking the place of the "commonwealth" can start merging Australia's and New Zealand's currencies and trade as a alternative to the current model as alluded to in the commonwealth of Australia constitution act.
[link to www.aph.gov.au]
Commonwealth Of Australia Constitution Act
[1...5]
6. "The Commonwealth" shall mean the Commonwealth of Australia as established under this Act.
"The States" shall mean such of the colonies of New South Wales, New Zealand, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia, including the northern territory of South Australia, as for the time being are parts of the Commonwealth, and such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States; and each of such parts of the Commonwealth shall be called "a State".
"Original States" shall mean such States as are parts of the Commonwealth at its establishment.
If the sheople fear their government, that is tyranny. If the government fear their >people<, that is democracy.
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny ~Alexander Solzhenitsyn |
| kalamity kool 
User ID: 329114
11/24/2007 7:05 PM
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Fucking, eh?
I dont think Aussies say eh, that's Canadian... eh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323477
'Eh' is used among the lower socio-economic groups to denote their allegiance to values such as fair go, disrespect of authorities, having a go, and cracking another one...
Among this sane portion of the population, Rudd's win probably won't change much, but I'll crack one anyway, lol.
(beer) |
| Amused
User ID: 331088
11/24/2007 7:32 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
When some says 'your a ........' do they mean you're; just pointing out something I have observed in several posts on this thread.
I find that when people put down our leaders, they are basically projecting something in themselves. We may not have agreed with some of Howards policy and action; we most likely woulnd't agree with his religious or philosophical view of the world, but for all that he was a Leader. We are bereft of good leadership in the world today (just look at the USA - look at the Commonwealth for allowing Magabe to stay a brutal tyrant; but for condeming Masarif in Pakistan, someone who is actually not a tyrant but trying to keep Sharia Law at bay).
Today we have the leaders we deserve. Australia is one of the greatest countries in the world if not the greatest. Lets hope it won't be messed up with too much foreign immigration like Europe is today. |
| kalamity kool
User ID: 329114
11/24/2007 7:38 PM
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When some says 'your a ........' do they mean you're; just pointing out something I have observed in several posts on this thread.
I find that when people put down our leaders, they are basically projecting something in themselves. We may not have agreed with some of Howards policy and action; we most likely woulnd't agree with his religious or philosophical view of the world, but for all that he was a Leader. We are bereft of good leadership in the world today (just look at the USA - look at the Commonwealth for allowing Magabe to stay a brutal tyrant; but for condeming Masarif in Pakistan, someone who is actually not a tyrant but trying to keep Sharia Law at bay).
Today we have the leaders we deserve. Australia is one of the greatest countries in the world if not the greatest. Lets hope it won't be messed up with too much foreign immigration like Europe is today. Quoting: Amused 331088
Oh, I think there's enough Leaders, who are perhaps adequate for the job they do, but no real 'statesmen' in a historical sense, who can make courageous changes that reverberate throughout the world. |
| alaaaan
User ID: 331060
11/24/2007 8:12 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
u r rite kalamity i should not have called him a POS sorry john.But my god the massive inequity he helped continue while never knocking back a wage rise for parlimentarians is just woeful. |
| kalamity kool
User ID: 329114
11/24/2007 8:18 PM
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Maxine has it. A momentum of change might sweep Oz, I hope more towards the European model than the American.
[link to www.smh.com.au] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331103
11/24/2007 8:22 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Hi,
My two penny worth. I came out to Australia in the early 1980s. I was sick of Thatcherite England. There was high interest rates 17 18%, house market inflation, mass privatisation of public assets, financial deregulation and dismantling of the trade union movement. When I came here the populist Labour leader Bob Hawke was PM. Guess what was happening in Australia ALL of the above. Globalisation 101. Only later I found out Bob Hawke was a Rhodes scholar and member of the Fabian society. Anyone thinking that a change of government here down under is going to make any difference to the way things are done are seriously deluding themselves. In the last election the Labour leader was a guy called Mark Latham. He was talking openly of bringing the troops back from Iraq. Which the majority of people in this country agreed with. He wanted to stop the destruction of old growth forests in Tasmania. For his sins he was villified in the media. Didn't stand a chance. It was obvious from the outset that Rudd was being groomed and promoted by the media to take over from Howard. All the embarrasing stories regarding Rudd and his wife's exploitation of her workers etc were all done well before the run up to the election whereas all the stories damaging to the Liberal party were released in recent days and weeks. To give the sheeple the illusion that they live in a democracy they have to have this farce of an election every few years and a change in the name of the party that governs the country. |
| kalamity kool
User ID: 329114
11/24/2007 8:24 PM
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u r rite kalamity i should not have called him a POS sorry john.But my god the massive inequity he helped continue while never knocking back a wage rise for parlimentarians is just woeful. Quoting: alaaaan 331060
Hey Alaaaan (have I got the number of a's right, lol?)
What is a POS?
Either he is a ptb and we can't decipher their motives yet, or he is massively divorced from reality (ivory tower and all...) |
| 322
User ID: 223039
11/24/2007 8:32 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Maxine has it. A momentum of change might sweep Oz, I hope more towards the European model than the American.
[ link to www.smh.com.au]
nothing will change.
Politicians are the banker's puppets. Any of you who deny this are as filthy as they are. Or incredibly gullible.
The world economy—mainly for the west, is burnt—and this is going to send the Federal Reserve (which is EXACTLY the same as the American Fed Res) into overdrive.
Therefore Labor has been installed to take the fall.
The next slogan you hear will be: "we told you the interest rates would go through the roof with a labor government" …. Errrrr duh.
There is NO LEFT and NO RIGHT. Politicians create and cement the illusion that you actually have a choice. Not a thing more. Nothing!!! |
| 322
User ID: 223039
11/24/2007 8:42 PM | | Re: Australia has a new government - bonza | Quote |
Hi,
My two penny worth. I came out to Australia in the early 1980s. I was sick of Thatcherite England. There was high interest rates 17 18%, house market inflation, mass privatisation of public assets, financial deregulation and dismantling of the trade union movement. When I came here the populist Labour leader Bob Hawke was PM. Guess what was happening in Australia ALL of the above. Globalisation 101. Only later I found out Bob Hawke was a Rhodes scholar and member of the Fabian society. Anyone thinking that a change of government here down under is going to make any difference to the way things are done are seriously deluding themselves. In the last election the Labour leader was a guy called Mark Latham. He was talking openly of bringing the troops back from Iraq. Which the majority of people in this country agreed with. He wanted to stop the destruction of old growth forests in Tasmania. For his sins he was villified in the media. Didn't stand a chance. It was obvious from the outset that Rudd was being groomed and promoted by the media to take over from Howard. All the embarrasing stories regarding Rudd and his wife's exploitation of her workers etc were all done well before the run up to the election whereas all the stories damaging to the Liberal party were released in recent days and weeks. To give the sheeple the illusion that they live in a democracy they have to have this farce of an election every few years and a change in the name of the party that governs the country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331103
you have perfect untainted vision...much kudos to you, my friend. |
| kalamity kool
User ID: 329114
11/24/2007 8:46 PM
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Maxine has it. A momentum of change might sweep Oz, I hope more towards the European model than the American.
[ link to www.smh.com.au]
nothing will change.
Politicians are the banker's puppets. Any of you who deny this are as filthy as they are. Or incredibly gullible.
The world economy—mainly for the west, is burnt—and this is going to send the Federal Reserve (which is EXACTLY the same as the American Fed Res) into overdrive.
Therefore Labor has been installed to take the fall.
The next slogan you hear will be: "we told you the interest rates would go through the roof with a labor government" …. Errrrr duh.
There is NO LEFT and NO RIGHT. Politicians create and cement the illusion that you actually have a choice. Not a thing more. Nothing!!!
Hmmmm....I fear you are right. And I agree there is no left and no right.
We need a one world gov, with very strong local gov's to administer local issues. |
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