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Mysterious alien guest visits Earth’s orbit

Last Thursday three observatories in the US spotted an unidentified object, designated 2007 VN84, heading Earth's way. This prompted the Minor Planet Center at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, US, which co-ordinates the search of near-Earth objects, to issue a potential near-miss warning.



Mysterious alien guest visits Earth’s orbit



The warning was later retracted after Moscow-based astronomer Denis Denisenko noticed that the object's trajectory closely matched Rosetta's.

The mix-up generated a few red faces, but also points to some important lessons. "The system is there to try to accurately assess an object," says Mark Bailey, director of the Armagh Observatory in Northern Ireland.

It is designed to spot objects moving towards Earth, determine their trajectory, and to disseminate necessary information as quickly as possible so that others can make measurements.

"If it's going to hit, you need to work out when and where as quickly as possible. You don't want them sitting on the data wondering whether it's an asteroid or not," Bailey told New Scientist.

But the incident raises questions about how well the warning system works. The Minor Planet Center complains that, "this incident highlights the deplorable state of availability of positional information on distant artificial objects". This lack of a centralised database makes checking incoming objects against known space probes difficult.

Bailey says that, while a good idea, it is unclear who should compile, maintain, and pay for such a database. "That's a very tricky question," he adds.

Others argue that the Rosetta approach has proven the robustness of the system. "It shows that the telescopes are picking these objects up," says Robert Massey, a spokesperson for the Royal Astronomical Society in the UK. "For them it's just a moving point of light that is not easy to identify as a spacecraft."

He concedes that a lack of coordination may have contributed to the error, but believes the fly-by has been a good test of the alerting system. "The alert was not particularly alarmist, the spacecraft was identified, and no major announcement was made," he says.

Bailey agrees. "We can live with red faces once in a while," he says.

Space junk from Apollo moon missions has been mistaken for an asteroid before, said Peter Brown, a meteor expert at the University of Western Ontario.

"This is the first time that by accident a spacecraft with a well-determined orbit has been picked up" by computer programs that constantly scan for unexplained moving objects, he said.

It shows how hard it is to make an instant judgment about what is or isn't a killer asteroid, based on a single point of light, canada.com reports.

But also shows the search programs don't miss anything: "Far be it from any alien race to want to put any spacecraft in orbit. The current search programs are pretty good at getting these things."

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:comet:
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They say the comet always preceeds them...these world enders.


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thanks for the pin.. but this news don't deserve a pin... just keep reading the whole article
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thanks for the pin.. but this news don't deserve a pin... just keep reading the whole article
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That's what I was going to say as well. It's just an orbiter. Trin might be hitting the sauce tonight, I know I am.
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plus every time they pinned me a thread I feel a sharp pain in legs or arms... I think they really are voodoo moderators
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plus every time they pinned me a thread I feel a sharp pain in legs or arms... I think they really are voodoo moderators
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mods not the eyes not the eyes...............dough!
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1rof1 Trin hitting the sauce... chuckle


cheers

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plus every time they pinned me a thread I feel a sharp pain in legs or arms... I think they really are voodoo moderators
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Nah, tbey don't know anything about that voodoo shit.
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Pravda.nu credibility = 0
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Pravda.nu credibility = 0
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Right down there with Washington Times, eh?
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Misleading thread title #58275 catalogued.
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A much more serious threat!
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were going to get hit one day, by a big ass rock!
you can take that to the bank.
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there's a video i saw at stage 6 of a computer simulation of the earth if the earth gets hit by an asteroid

the earth would be on fire literately, all human life and animal life as we know it would be eradicated
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A much more serious threat!
Thread: Are assholes a threat to Earth? hiding
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stopid link no work-drat
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The English edition of Pravda has ALWAYS had a higher accuracy and truth rating than the WP or the NYTIMES. The one area where they lie constantly is the areas regarding what's really goimg on in Russia. That one particular area of coverage from Pravda gets about as much journalistc integrity as the Republican Party gets from Fox News - which ain't saying much. However if you know what parts of it to disguard, you'll get fairly accurate reporting of what our government has no intention to ever reveal to any of us while any of our generations are Long Gone!! And then who gives a shit anyway???




Misleading thread title #58275 catalogued.
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plus every time they pinned me a thread I feel a sharp pain in legs or arms... I think they really are voodoo moderators
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Could be from being on those knees
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just kiddin
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A purposeful "Mistake" to prepare the people for What Is Coming!!!

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dio the mods actually read the entire article before pinning it, or are they like "zomg!!!11 look at the titlezz!!1 PIN r belong to me!!
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Re: Mysterious unidentified object, heading Earth's way
325789: TRUE. PRAVDA as a news outlet underwent DRASTIC changes several years ago and has developed a new, more respected reputation among global journalists who are willing to look beyond a greatly checkered history.

Pravda.ru has the advantage of a few seasoned members of its old reporting staff with new leadership and a more refined sensibility for reporting the truth [even about local Russian events] - in fact, Pravda's new credo was to avoid the errors their name still implies.

I've always admired their gusty approach to reporting on nearly anything of interest.
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325789: TRUE. PRAVDA as a news outlet underwent DRASTIC changes several years ago and has developed a new, more respected reputation among global journalists who are willing to look beyond a greatly checkered history.

Pravda.ru has the advantage of a few seasoned members of its old reporting staff with new leadership and a more refined sensibility for reporting the truth [even about local Russian events] - in fact, Pravda's new credo was to avoid the errors their name still implies.

I've always admired their gusty approach to reporting on nearly anything of interest.
 Quoting: gsbltd


So, there IS now truth in Pravda!

But, is there any news in Isveztia?

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They always pin threads that might be harbingers of DOOM.
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The English edition of Pravda has ALWAYS had a higher accuracy and truth rating than the WP or the NYTIMES. The one area where they lie constantly is the areas regarding what's really goimg on in Russia. That one particular area of coverage from Pravda gets about as much journalistc integrity as the Republican Party gets from Fox News - which ain't saying much. However if you know what parts of it to disguard, you'll get fairly accurate reporting of what our government has no intention to ever reveal to any of us while any of our generations are Long Gone!! And then who gives a shit anyway???


Yeah, I tend to trust Pravda more than I do NYT or surely WA Times or some other crap like that. I like Pravda - all you have to do is sift through the psyops bullshit, just like the US papers. But more interesting things get through, cause it's a European source and not dedicated to bullshitting the US populace.


Misleading thread title #58275 catalogued.

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already been and gone


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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LOL mint

[link to www.planetary.org]
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is it a plane? is it a space rock? is it superman? nope just the stupid sat we sent up there to look for rocks coming our way hehehe
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Pravda is a tabloid. Puts in occasional bits of real news, but it's a tabloid. Expect to read about Jenna Bush having a 6 legged reptilian baby with the Flying Spaghetti monster any day now.
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:cara_yes:

the Journalist career at the University of Mexico requires one or two semester of Pravda, NYTimes and the Globe and comparatives between them and the line they have and almost all the times Pravda was better ranks than the others.
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Sources: agencies
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lmao
what a fucking joke.
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