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Michael Tsarion is a Freemason

 
Anonymous Coward
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10/14/2008 11:17 AM
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Tsarions books?
Atlantis and theosophy
Tsarion admits he's rosicrucian, which is just code for
gnostic, who are knights and masons.

Alan Watt I don't think is a member as some of these other
researchers. Watt is just one of the confussed from
reading their books for so many years. Either way Watt
doesn't have a clue when it comes to religion.
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10/14/2008 11:17 AM
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check out the mtsar forum
go to the symbolism topic
best forum about symbolism in the world
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10/14/2008 11:22 AM
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Icke is a mind-controlled looney who's a favorite target of the reppies.
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11/23/2008 04:19 PM
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Michael Tsarion, Rosicrucian-Freemason-papal Knight
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11/23/2008 04:23 PM
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Its very suspicious those speakers can keep giving out info and not end up in jail.
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11/24/2008 12:10 AM
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Its very suspicious those speakers can keep giving out info and not end up in jail.
 Quoting: starlight_afar


Are you retarded?
How many people would they have to jail?
Jailing people gets attention for their work.

Besides, Tsarion is an upfront asshole. Take it or leave it. The rest of you sure aren't doing much but bitching about a bible verse when you don't even know the true origins of Xtianity.
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12/02/2008 11:36 AM
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To Forgiven:

Please provide links to government documents proving tha Tsarion is an agent. I do not believe you.

I tried to listen to Chris White's clip on Tsarion, but he is such a boring speaker, I couldn't stand it.

I agree with you about the alien disinfo, but otherwise like Tsarion. Maybe he really does believe it(?) In any case, I'd like to get some facts. The Chris clip doens't do it for me, since his agenda is defending Christianity.
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12/02/2008 11:37 AM
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OK, just to add another voice if you're interested in this type of topic,

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Filter the crazy, find reality

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12/02/2008 11:51 AM
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Too long: Didn't read.

I think Tsarion might have known some Rosicrucians in the past, but that doesn't mean he is currently one.

He's a tough guy. Chris White is a punk. I don't blame him for the threat. I thought it was funny. Why didn't Chris respond the that? Afraid?

Tsarion doesn't have to respond to the accusations. There are always going to be people trying to discredit someone who is getting the recognition he is.

I'll keep an open mind about the aliens. It's no more fantastical than the Bible.
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what I've really never understood about any so called 'de-bunker, is why do they go through all the trouble. Whats the real motivation here? Is anyone really so naive? To actually believe that ANY organization is totally benign or tatally evil!! give me a break. groups always tend to break up into splintered factions. why? the human ego. even in these masonic orders. I know human beings well enough to realize that many so called 'followers' are just going along for the ride. Or to just grasp a different perspective. case and point: take most clergy in todays churches, listen to their particular rhetoric. Then ask yourself how many people in those thousand bodied congregattions, actually take the clergy persons word as the absolute truth.
A better example is an organization I once belonged to. The Nation of Islam. As a young black youth, I clung to the orators of Malcom X, and Farakon as if my life depended on it. I was willing to die for that particular cause if need be. How many others do you think I met who actually felt the same way. It was mostly a scam for money and power within the black community.
But although none of my current beliefs about race or god line up anywhere close to those of the NOI; I am still gratefull for some of the things I learned and would indeed even call Malcom X, Elijah Muhammed heros.
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02/11/2009 03:58 PM
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He's a Rosicrucian.
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He's a Rosicrucian.
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Cool.

He brings more than enough useful information.

Call him whatever you like.


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And so is Alan Watt and David dIcke. They are all fake manipulators and psyops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331360



hahahaha fucking Dork!
you are an attention whore, with no self respect or love for this nation and it's people.

Disinfo dipshit>>>
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05/19/2009 03:42 PM
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All of this is hysterical.
I've dabbled with the conspiracy theory world for a number of years now and it seems that the most paranoid group of people are those that are trying to find the truth. Divide and conquer? I've read Icke and seen Tsarion and some of the others. I enjoy it, I revel in it. I'm no "cult" member, I'm no Christian I just know that there is something very wrong in the so called free world, something hideously wrong! Right now, we are probably living in the most comfortable days as working or lower middle class people - despite that - we are ALL vaguely aware that something is VERY wrong. If Icke, Tsarion, Jones Dave and Bob are ALL counter espionage infiltrators then we are all due for a massive headache. And yet despite all that, there is still something so very wrong with the world is there not?
Is it Icke's fault? Is Tsarion to blame? Should we all be Christians, Jews or Muslims? Should we hate the Government, should we blame their puppet masters?
There aren't any answers it seems but I for one am willing to listen to anyone who describes the horrific abuses of our trust as well as anyone who questions those 'benevolent' tyrants, because in my lifeime, the only people who have meant any harm to me and mine are those that are under attack by the likes of Icke, tsarion, Jones et al. None of these guys are my friends - I don't even know them! But then I don't know the bushes, Blairs et al either and I know for a fact that they don't give a toss about me.
Its only the leaders who are trying to hurt us, send us to war and control us.
I wouldn't leave my children with them so why would I leave my life to them? Its time to get some unity amongst the opposition to those that are trying to control us. You can control a pack of bitches with a single wolf.
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05/19/2009 05:50 PM
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It seems with the above poster "its better the devil ya know than the devil don't" none of these conspiracy people-promise salvation just verying degrees of information and misinformation...

I think you should just think for yourself-there doesn't need to be ton's of money sent for books or dvds and constant wasting time on the competer/tv...just be self sufficient and really examine what you do with your money and who yoyu vote for-if you vote at all. have a plan for when the shit hits the fan-be physically fit, have cash locked away and a survival plan..
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It makes me take pause when I see people making comments on certain topics and individuals when they have no idea about the Esoteric nature of things.

How is that people who's belief systems are based on what they are told and conditioned to belief are experts on the Occult (meaning HIDDEN)?

The truth is much stranger than fiction, and what is regarded as Truth in all realms of religion, politics and Academia is a well crafted illusion to conceal many things from the minds of the unthinking, unquestioning masses

Wake up, do your own research, Free your minds

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08/07/2009 06:38 PM
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i don't have any particular reason to believe that mtsar is a mason, but he is extremely shifty eyed and looks to be slimier than a swamp frog. i felt like taking a shower after watching his atlantis series, made me feel dirty just looking at him.
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08/07/2009 06:40 PM
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Im a mason jar.
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08/07/2009 06:45 PM
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I don't know about Icke being a Mason but he is definitely an Alien, funny lookin man!!

Just jokes
 Quoting: Le Fou 342176

Icke reminds me of the aliens in the TV Series 'V' - everytime he talks his lips smack like some sort of lizard :)
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08/07/2009 06:47 PM
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William Cooper was the agent.. I just got done reading his book Behold A Pale Horse and not one place did he mention Eugenics! Instead, he blamed everything on non-existent aliens...
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08/07/2009 07:05 PM
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Re: Michael Tsarion is a Freemason
He's a Rosicrucian.



Cool.

He brings more than enough useful information.

Call him whatever you like.


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 Quoting: BOWMAN



At Michaels forum I believe he has said he is Rosicrucian. Since there are many varieites, what branch are those who smear so afraid of?


I am not aware of a branch that is in any way
threatening to anyone.

The ORIGINS are Ancient.
Do you KNOW the meaning of the Insignia?
perhaps that is what makes FEAR rise in YOU !

The FEARS are in the minds of those bent on denigrating MTSAR.

MTSAR is free from FEARS
and thats why insecure ones FEAR HIM

Thats the way it is.



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08/07/2009 08:40 PM
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So what exactly is the problem with him being a Freemason? Why is it remarkable? I thought the Freemasons were good guys.
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omg.. even if he was a freemason it wouldn't matter to me. even ex-vampires have tales to tell. derRRR...

what is no excuse of these Tsarion haters is the disregard of evidence, references such as books and quotes of scholars that back up virtually his every word. don't believe it? then don't, cus then you aren't even looking at the references, you are only accusing, which is for weak pathetic minds.

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11/03/2009 12:40 PM
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Michael Tsarion is probably not 100% with his facts. Neither is anyone else.
This idiot called nowheretoturn on youtube did a very poor job at debunking Tsarion. He also failed at trying to attack Jordan Maxwell.
I am sorry, but trying to debunk others while trying to promote that dispicable book (the bible) is not going to work for me.
This all originated from some Christians who are worried that their religion (which has caused enough harm to this world already) is being exposed for what it really is.
Religion promoting has no place for me in this day and age of conspiracy research.
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At Michaels forum I believe he has said he is Rosicrucian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 722410



Nope. He didn't.


And he's not a Idol1 either. That would be obvious to anyone with an education about the man's work and the subject of Masonry. If her were a mason he would have been excommunicated and then some for the shit he says about them.
whatever
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11/23/2009 03:41 PM
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Red Ice radio is a scam


Why would you say that? It is nothing of the sort. And all the information and radio interviews and graphics and videos and everything I've ever gotten from them has been free.


Free? That's the first sign. Who's paying for it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 525125


subscribers pay for it, there are two sets of interviews, a free hour and a subscriber hour... and it's like 25 bucks a year...so if he is funded like rense or whatever by subscribers he is evil? WTF? people do have a right to try and make money doing what they love...you don't tell the guy who writes comic books not to sell them or the artist not to sell his or her art to a fucking gallery or an achaeologist to not to go tramping through the brush

That's all I'm saying. I don't know if he is an agent or not, but hailing from Cali and the SF area a two bedroom apartment is 1800 a month, he might need to pay rent instead of living 6 to a house like I did in college...does that make his pricing bad or is that reflecting the reality of living in Berkeley?

wtf
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What's wrong with Michael Tsarion?
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lala

Where would we be without the TEACHINGS of gentlemen like Michael Tsarion, David dIcke, and Jordon Maxwell?
Thank you for WHAT YOU DO and your COURAGE.
I LOVE these Heroic men. Most people are too chicken shit or PATHETICALLY selfish to do anything about the corruption in our world.
We need more people like Icke, Tsarion and Maxwell.

Fix this planet already

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And so is Alan Watt and David dIcke. They are all fake manipulators and psyops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331360


while i agree with the fake shill sentiment about all of the above.

What proof do you have that these people are members of a masonic lodge?
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Michael Tsarion may or may not be a Freemason. All of that is vague speculation and bullshit GLP forum theorizing. What he IS however, is an overfed, pudgy Irish guy with a Celtic fetish, a goofy new agey name, and a penchant for getting up on a podium and telling various wishy washy fables, legends, and folk tales with ancient lost civilization nonsense mixed into the stew, and pseudo-romantic overtones to win over aging new agey barking moonbat women. All of which he passes off for legit historical/conspiracy research. And people fall for it, because everyone likes to hear a story that makes them feel like they're listening to something important.
 Quoting: Dispositioner


That's a fair summary. Accords with what I've seen and heard of him.

Listened to a podcast of his the other day. Couple of things struck me. One is that the guy took some night school classes in philosophy in 1986 or 1996 (he's not sure) during a period of unemployment. Then seemed to reinvent himself as a guru.

The other thing that really irritated me was that he does not know how to pronounce the word 'tao' (non-native speakers say: d'how).

For someone so intent on converting the world to his brand of woowoo, you'd think he'd get something so basic right. It demonstrates that he's never studied Taoist philosophy either as an academic subject or as a student of a Taoist master.

What else has he just read from books and confected into his half-baked cosmology?

Oh well, if you just think of him as an entertainer, then he's doing ok for himself, isn't he?

BTW. No one's provided proof that he's a mason. And what does it matter if he is?

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