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Michael Tsarion is a Freemason

 
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Im a mason jar.
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I've learned alot from Tsarion and Jordan, but especially David dIcke and Alan Watt. Thanks guys hf

I feel I am receiving a world-class education in how the world really works for the cost of a few books. The amount of their i]research alone is worth the cost.

It takes time (years) to reach this point because your entire introcination and programming becomes breached - to the point of no return - depending how far down the rabbit hole you wish to travel.

Still, one has to always discriminate and question - it is imperative to do so.

Take Art Bell as an example of why one should discriminate - for years I listened to him - he IS knowledgeable and entertaining - he made millions off of his listeners - nothing wrong with that - but after Ramona died and he quickly married a young girl - had a baby - it just didn't sit right with me whatsoever. But that's his business and not mine.

When Art said he didn't believe 9/11 was an inside job - he sealed his doom in my book. Talk about being an insider - there ya go - but that's just my opinion. Obviously, there are those who do not agree and still love the guy.

In the end, knowledge and truth come from many different sources. It's up to each of us to put the pieces together. In the meantime, learn all you can while you can even if it's just scratching the surface. No other time in history has such knowledge been available worldwide except to the elite themselves.
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And so is Alan Watt and David dIcke. They are all fake manipulators and psyops.
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Do not under any circumstances listen to any of these men! They are in fact suspected of being disinformation agents. Some experts believe that these men may be part of a global deception and manipulation campaign that is being waged on human consciousness to distract and hijack their attention away from the real issues.

It is believed that the real global threat that is hidden in plain sight as evident in recent discoveries and revelations is the fact that a Reptilian agenda exists. This agenda deals with dumbing down and enslaving humans by using fear based deception and manipulation to control them.
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bsflag bsflag bsflag Idol1
Don't attack the messenger!

John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Jeremiah 17:9,10
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings."

Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."
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Yes they externalize their gnostic beliefs. The Masons/Templars reveal themselves, thus indoctrinate.
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What do Tsarion, Icke and Watt have in common? They all deny that Jesus Christ is our only saviour.

They can probably all agree on the past history up until now. They have different "solutions" for the future:

Tsarion: Discover your godhood within yourself, and become a little Druid.

Icke: Tune your vibration to the right frequency and you will transform to inifinite consciousness.

Watt: Grab a gun and run for hills.


Alex Jones is different from these people. He does believe in Jesus Christ, that is my impression anyway. Listen to this interview with Alex on the FutureQuake show, he goes into things he normally don't do on his radio show. His radio shows are made to appeal to a secular audience:

[link to www.futurequake.com]
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What do Tsarion, Icke and Watt have in common? They all deny that Jesus Christ is our only saviour.

They can probably all agree on the past history up until now. They have different "solutions" for the future:

Tsarion: Discover your godhood within yourself, and become a little Druid.

Icke: Tune your vibration to the right frequency and you will transform to inifinite consciousness.

Watt: Grab a gun and run for hills.


Alex Jones is different from these people. He does believe in Jesus Christ, that is my impression anyway. Listen to this interview with Alex on the FutureQuake show, he goes into things he normally don't do on his radio show. His radio shows are made to appeal to a secular audience:

[link to www.futurequake.com]
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Watt also claims Jesus never existed. He is more atheist that Tsar and Icke. Jones claims to be Christian, that's all.

I've learned from them. If a doctor told me about the hospital he would be the one who knows it well.
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Jones has went mainstream with Jesse Ventura TruTV. He just said his shows are gonna be scripted. Kinda like C2C, and Jesse's show. More than usual.

Jones has been trash since he went 4 hrs, at least.

Everyone can see through the phony. The plan must be to get a segment of his large following to keep following over the cliff. Like zeitgeist took a segment.

There is no hope following these 'rockstar' clowns. Seldom do they even report news, rather spin some agenda. Today it is still the underware bomber.
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William Cooper was the agent.. I just got done reading his book Behold A Pale Horse and not one place did he mention Eugenics! Instead, he blamed everything on non-existent aliens...
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thats ridiculous, if you know anything about william cooper you would know that later in his career he stated that the "alien information" he received while working with the dept of naval defence may or may not have been true, he himself didnt know whether it was real or disinfo fed to him. any time he has ever been wrong about anything he went on air and corrected it.

His mystery babylon series is the best summary of the nwo and secret societies ive ever seen, he precdicted in june of 2001 there would be a major terrorist attack in the u.s and it would be blamed on osama bin laden, [link to www.youtube.com] He was killed by police one month after the attacks while tsar, maxwell, and the like are still spouting their new age religion.
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All will fall because everybody (the profane as they call us) are too busy deciding who is fake and who is not, who is right and who is wrong... dichotomies within dichotomies within dichotomies (ad infinitum). Just reading both sides to this tale it's evident that this will cause even more confusion... it's self-defeating just talking about this. I suspect that for some of you, your intention IS to cause confusion, for others it may not be but simply being a part of this debate is going to create more confusion (yes, you could say I'm adding to it too).

Utlimately, I have no problem with the anti-tsarionists or the tsarionists. It's bound to happen because we're all uncertain. However, I do wonder how much the folk on GLP have read/listened to MT because it seems to me that you don't know THAT much about him. Equally the Tsarion devotees don't seem to know much about the people Tsarion tends to reference. It's better to look deeply at all angles through BOTH EYES instead of looking through ONE EYE. The only thing that will matter in the end is personal initiate and "THERE IS NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN PERSONAL INITIATIVE". No one here could say they have it. You're all part of your own collectives afterall.

If there is anything 'right' that Tsarion HAS said it would be 'Focus on what YOU'RE doing, not on what OTHERS are doing!'. I cannot really fault him on that but it should be said that this can be done without resorting to selfishness, estrangement and extreme individualism. It makes me laugh when people think they need to counter one extreme with another... of course, that's the answer to everything isn't it? If it's not 'social' then it can only be 'anti-social'... ha!
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Since Tsarion and david_dickhead are both masonic disinfo 'reptilians' they are the same as Crowley, MI6.
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Michael Tsarion may or may not be a Freemason. All of that is vague speculation and bullshit GLP forum theorizing. What he IS however, is an overfed, pudgy Irish guy with a Celtic fetish, a goofy new agey name, and a penchant for getting up on a podium and telling various wishy washy fables, legends, and folk tales with ancient lost civilization nonsense mixed into the stew, and pseudo-romantic overtones to win over aging new agey barking moonbat women. All of which he passes off for legit historical/conspiracy research. And people fall for it, because everyone likes to hear a story that makes them feel like they're listening to something important.
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Very nicely said! You really cut through the bullshit on that!
“Intelligence is like a river: the deeper it is, the less noise it makes.”
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how's about some proof there Popeye
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because OP said so...

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What do Tsarion, Icke and Watt have in common? They all deny that Jesus Christ is our only saviour.

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I admire the fact that they're not subservient, controlled and conformed by christianity!
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Since Tsarion and david_dickhead are both masonic disinfo 'reptilians' they are the same as Crowley, MI6.
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What do Tsarion, Icke and Watt have in common? They all deny that Jesus Christ is our only saviour.


I admire the fact that they're not subservient, controlled and conformed by christianity!
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Exactly. So what if they are new agey or whatever. I've watched Tsarion's stuff and although I don't believe 100% of it, it stirs up interesting debate.

How is Christianity any different? Look at the fruit of that tree and tell me its better. Try.
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Also, just to throw another spanner in the works: 2 posts above somebody mentioned William Cooper who I was quite fond of. I have indeed listened to all those old radio broadcasts. 'Officially', as most of you should know, he was the subject of an arrest warrant, it didn't quite 'go to plan', he fought back and was eventually killed not before wounding the officer at the scene. Naturally, followers of Cooper believe he was killed off for knowing too much, I'm partial to agree with that paradigm... it seems logical... it makes perfect sense and we know it happens, don't we?

However, stepping back for a moment. Let's cast him in another light: he's was an disinformation agent, funded by the government (perhaps recruited after his service in the US Army), affiliated with various secret societies and, in order to make his (dis)information believable, he sacrified himself to the cause knowing that it would make people react. Think about it for a moment, If the supposed 'mystery religions' truly partake in these 'sacrifical rituals', it's not too hard to imagine that some of them will sacrifice their own lives. According to the media this is what the 'terrorists' are doing is it not? They are martyrs to their cause. It's not only brown men from the East who have the will to sacrifice themselves! I'm certain this goes on within these 'societies' too...

One thing that I always find interesting is how most 'truth seekers' THINK - don't forget that there are paid think tanks to calculate 'group reactions'. Refering back to people like Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, other champions of the GLP forum members who aren't that disimilar from W. Cooper who are STILL alive and HAVEN'T been killed (yet). Taking into account what I said above, we can take this in several ways.

- Either they aren't being killed because they are agents and an integral part of their agenda

- Either they haven't been killed because they haven't 'hit the nerves' Cooper did, whilst still being honest to their cause (i.e. not disinformation agentur)

- Either these speakers have drawn too much attention to make a move (thus the only weapon available is a debunking campaign against them) - killing these people only produces more of the same

I'll leave it at that for now but it's clear that there are many variables and I don't think anyone here can really be certain about any of them, no matter how good a source you have!

"Listen to everyone, read everything; believe absolutely nothing unless you can prove it in your own right!" _ W. Cooper
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freemasonry has got to be the most played out conspiracy. any real conspiracy in them has moved on to other groups, leaving the masons holding the bag..
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And so is Alan Watt and David dIcke. They are all fake manipulators and psyops.
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GET A LIFE...& GET OFF THIS CRAP NEGATIVITY TRIP
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And so is Alan Watt and David dIcke. They are all fake manipulators and psyops.

GET A LIFE...& GET OFF THIS CRAP NEGATIVITY TRIP
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It's negative to suspect these people? I would've thought the same some time ago, but now it's obvious that there is a huge amount of error being promoted by these people.

Chris White does a good job in showing the factual errors in Ickes, Maxwells and Tsarions presentations. The inability for people like Icke, Maxwell and Tsarion to apologize for their errors and take their errors back shows the true nature of their character.

An example of this type of error is the inability for anyone to show primary sources linking Horus/Tamus/Jesus as being the same tale retold.

Ironically, the person who best exposes this is himself unable to apply the same critical reasoning to his own beliefs (Christianity).

---> IT'S ALL MENTAL ILLNESS! <---

suggestion: any belief you "take in" should be backed with hard physical evidence otherwise it should NOT be considered, even if it "sounds right" or "clicks with you".

In my personal experience, I have "vibrated" with certain information that has turned out to be wrong and had "gut rejections" of information which has turned out to be right.

The explanation of this phenomenon is that THE MECHANISM OF COMMUNICATION was controlling my emotional state and thus the content of the communication was accepted without rational consideration.

---> ITS CALLED HYPNOSIS <---

After reconstructing my mind after being liquified by the new age/consipiracy/icke/tsarion/jones/maxwell "information", here's what I've concluded to be the actual, real, logical, physical truth told to you with no personal benefit to me:

1. THE JEWS FRAMED THE ARABS ON 911

2. THE WORLD IS RUN BY A JEWISH CRIMINAL NETWORK WHICH INCLUDES CONTROL OF THE MEDIA, BANKS, POLITICIANS, CORPORATIONS, ETC.

3. UFOs EXIST, SOME ARE ET, SOME ARE MAN-MADE

4. 99.9% OF UFOLOGY IS DISINFO/MENTAL ILLNESS/PROFITEERING

5. ETs ARE BENEVOLENT AND WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH US

6. RELIGION/NEW AGE/ETC IS ALL MAN-MADE MYTHOLOGY

7. MOST PEOPLE IN PROMINENCE IN THE CONSPIRACY, UFO, RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS ARE MENTALLY ILL AND SECRETLY STUDIED HYPNOSIS, USE IT ON YOU, BUT DONT TELL YOU ABOUT IT

8. THE CONSPIRACY CROWD (e.g YOU) ARE HIGHLY SUGGESTIBLE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING AROUND WITH MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ERROR IN THEIR BELIEF SYSTEMS
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I posted this on the "pro Tsarion" post: Thread: This Video is beyond comprehension! 2012 - The Future of Mankind (Page 2)

Please read the two articles below. Here are links:
[link to HATER]
[link to HATER]


ARTICLE 1
Michael Tsarion Threatens to Kick Chris White’s Ass for Exposing Him
Outlaw News
December 16, 2007

New Age guru Michael Tsarion, who has recently been publicly exposed as a Freemason and generational occultist, has threatened physical violence against one of the people who assisted this exposure - Chris White, of the ‘Nowhere to Run’ internet radio show, who recently did a show on Tsarion’s occult connections, noting among other things that he is an admitted member of the Rosicrucian Order.

This show was brought up on Tsarion’s forum, and rather than respond to any of the facts brought up by Chris, Tsarion simply called him “trash who has emerged from his fucking toilet” and then stated that “the only debate i’ll give this pathetic specimen is with my fist” (entire response posted below).

Though this comment was somewhat offhand, and not something one would really take to court as a threat of assault, it shows Tsarion’s mindset. By degrading Chris with Ad Hominem attacks, Tsarion claims that he has no obligation to respond to any of the facts he brought up.

When I tried to go on his forum and bring up some of the facts mentioned on the show, my comment was denied approval by one of the Admins. This doesn’t surprise me. If you go on his forum, you will see that people are talking about the show, but none of them have said one word about the actual content of it. This is because any mention of the facts brought up in the show is disallowed from Michael Tsarion’s forum. I encourage anyone who doubts this to go and try to post something negative about “Mtsar” on his forum.

His forum is filled with people who follow him with religious fervor, and on my own forum, I have found that his followers will viciously attack anyone who mentions anything negative about their great spiritual leader. This is no different from the behavior of the members of any other cult.

All of this is simply further proof of what those of us in the know were already well aware of: Michael Tsarion is a fake and a shill, put out by the powers that be to mix fact with fiction and create mass confusion among our movement. He promotes the belief in aliens as well as a mass of other occult garbage including tarot cards and astrology. He also promotes the Rothschild funded philosophy of Theosophy, and is an apologist for the very high Freemason and founder of the OTO, Aliester Crowley, who it is recently declassified was a paid agent of MI-6.


Alan Watt, though apparently hesitant to say all he knows about this situation, has several times indicated that Michael Tsarion, David dIcke, Jordan Maxwell, and the rest of that little club are all disinformation agents, put out there to mix the truth with the sci-fi/fantasy world of the New Age religion. Here is a recent interview where Alan discusses this.

It is also worth noting that Tsarion’s forum is hosted by Red Ice Creations, the Admin of which, Henrik Palmgren, does a radio show where Michael Tsarion is a regular guest. Alan Watt used to appear on this show every month, but recently he has stopped being invited, claiming on his own show which airs on RBN that this was due to the fact that he refused to go along with the “alien agenda” propaganda which most of the Red Ice guests promote. I like the guy, and we regularly like to each others sites, but apparently, Henrik has become a member of the club.

Chris White is a friend of mine, and after the threats and hateful statements which Tsarion has made against him, this issue is pretty close to home; I also feel that the people doing what he is doing, sabotaging our movement from within, are actually more damaging that the attacks from without. I am going to continue to do everything I can to make sure this man is fully exposed, so as he is no longer able to harm people with his psychologically and spiritually destructive propaganda.

-Andre

ARTICLE 2
Michael Tsarion Continues to Refuse to Respond to Evidence that He is a Shill

Outlaw News
December 16, 2007

Yesterday, I wrote a piece about a series of radio shows Chris White did on the vast inconsistencies and flat out disinformation that Michael Tsarion puts out. I also mentioned his connection to a mass of occult organizations, and the fact that when a member of his forum brought Chris’ show up, Tsarion threatened him with physical violence, and made the statement that he needed to be shut up. I included the fact that I had been blocked from posting on Michael’s forum. Tsarion has throughout the day continued to block me from posting, and has removed all comments which bring his nefarious affiliations into question.

I convinced a member of the Tsarion New Age cult who is also a Myspace friend of mine, Queen of Night, to go on the forum and post this article, since I had been disallowed. Likely because I dealt with Tsarion’s violent response in the article, he responded this time in a much more collected way, telling his devotees not to look at the allegations, as it would pollute them with negative energy. He still did not respond to a single one of the issues I brought up, which was smart, because anything he could give would be a lie.

I then asked another member of the cult to go on and post a comment I was not allowed to post, in which I suggested that if Tsarion does not have anything to hide, there is absolutely no reason that he should not respond to the facts that have been brought up by Alan Watt, Chris White, and others, and linked to a forum where a host of ex-Tsarion cult members were discussing being banned from the forum when they questioned him. This post was immediately deleted. Sadly, the cult member who agreed to post the comment for me saw nothing wrong with the fact that he deleted this, which proves the degree to which Tsarion has these people under his spell.

After listening to Chris White’s show and reading the post that I was able to sneak in through Queen of Night, a member of the forum, BelzeBob, politely suggested that some answers were in order, which Tsarion quite strategically refused to give. BelzeBob then said this:

Is my asking questions considered heresy?

Hallmarks of a “Cult”:

1. Everybody agrees with each other

2. And this becomes their strength

3. Asking questions and having a critical mind (about the “Cult”s doctrine) is not encouraged.

4. Any view that harmonizes with the “Cult”’s doctrine is good.

5. And any view that doesn’t harmonize is “an attack”

6. Where the solution is either a “counter-attack” or just silence.

7. Such views will never be given the chance to be thoroughly disproved as it is considered “unnecessary” and even “ridiculous”.

Just like asking difficult questions.

Another hallmark: in such a “Cult” people rarely learn anything. Except learning things by route and repeating them.

In all of these 20 or so posts regarding the “naughty” radio show I have not seen a single question answered. If nobody has answers:

A. Admit it.

B. Be silent.

When this post again went unanswered by Tsarion, and instead he simply reiterated that everyone needed to simply forget about everything that Alan, Chris and I have brought up, BelzeBob, being polite again, resigned from the forum. This was a nice bit of encouragement, as I have been viciously attacked by so many of the cultic followers over the last few days. Even when they are not vicious, they completely refuse to listen to any manner of reason. Several have also told me that even if Michael came out and admitted that he was a government agent, they would still believe everything he says, unquestioningly. This is not terribly surprising, because they all continue to defend Aliester Crowley, who was an admitted MI6 agent and high Freemason (none of them appear to actually know anything about the man save what Tsarion has told them, but defend him nonetheless).

Ultimately, these people are so far gone that very little can ever be done for them. They are consumed with the New Age sci-fi/fantasy reality which Tsarion promotes, and have no desire to free themselves from it; again, they are cult members. This may make some of you ask why I even bother to try and expose him, when the members of his cult are so far beyond help. To this I would respond that I am doing it for those who may not be very familiar with Tsarion, and have not yet been sucked into his demented paradigm, and I also want to encourage further inquiry into Tsarion’s past and present affiliations with nefarious groups, and put all of this on the record for the future, when even more damning evidence is sure to be uncovered. Along with this, I am doing it for people like BelzeBob, who have the strength and personal integrity to pull themselves up out of the state of mind control and indoctrination that Tsarion has inflicted upon them. Lastly, I feel the need to expose this man on principle alone, as he is spreading an incredibly destructive doctrine though out this entire movement with great force, due to the tremendous backing that he clearly has.

Michael Tsarion is a part of a standard counterintelligence operation. The subject has been written about extensively in government manuals, many of which are publicly available. The way it works is rather simple: when information that the powers that be are afraid of the general public having access to begins to come up from the grassroots, they then create an extremely well funded superstar to come out with that information, but mix it with other nonsensical information, such as aliens, tarot cards, astrology, and other fantastic or religious type of disinformation. People are drawn to the individual, who comes on the scene as a hero, because he is saying things that they know are true. They then swallow the rest of the nonsense along with it, because they trust the shill who is feeding it to them. The disinformation completely neutralizes whatever truth they have been given, and the shill will generally slowly crank up the level of fantastical disinformation as the years go on, as anyone who has followed Tsarion’s work is aware he has done.

The man is also pulling in incredible amounts of cash, selling his DVDs for up to 60 bucks. This is another foundational pillar of a cult – only the leaders have the answers you need, and you have to pay extortionary rates to get a hold of them.

I want to continue to encourage anyone who doubts what I am saying to go to Tsarions forum:

[link to www.redicecreations.com]

Get an account, and try to go on there and ask him if he is a member of the Rosy Croix, why he blocks people who question him, what his response is to Alan Watt’s allegations, why he won’t debate Alan, why he defends admitted government disinformationalists, or anything else I have mentioned here, and I guarantee you will have all doubt removed when he blocks you.

Also, because this is an information war scenario, and we do want to wake up the people who have fallen for Frater Tsarion’s tricks, anyone who feels a conviction to do so should try to get access to the forum by posting something benign, getting vetted so you can post without having your posts checked, and then posting questions and links to this article. Be polite and precise, and just tell him you want some response. If enough people see it and respond to it before he does, he cannot delete it – this is what happened with the post I got Queen of Night to make.

What I am trying to do here is force Tsarion into some kind of public confrontation, hopefully on Red Ice radio, with either Alan Watt, Chris White, or me. I would at least like to see some kind of public statement from him regarding all of the points that we have made. I see no reason why, if Michael has nothing to hide, he cannot respond in some way that is not simply a threat of physical violence.

I am going to continue to cover this situation in the future, and I would appreciate it if anyone who digs up further information of Michael Tsarion would please contact me at hello.andre@yahoo.com

1 love,
-Andre
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dont forget alan watt,
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And so is Alan Watt and David dIcke. They are all fake manipulators and psyops.

GET A LIFE...& GET OFF THIS CRAP NEGATIVITY TRIP
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It's negative to suspect these people? I would've thought the same some time ago, but now it's obvious that there is a huge amount of error being promoted by these people.

Chris White does a good job in showing the factual errors in Ickes, Maxwells and Tsarions presentations. The inability for people like Icke, Maxwell and Tsarion to apologize for their errors and take their errors back shows the true nature of their character.

An example of this type of error is the inability for anyone to show primary sources linking Horus/Tamus/Jesus as being the same tale retold.

Ironically, the person who best exposes this is himself unable to apply the same critical reasoning to his own beliefs (Christianity).

---> IT'S ALL MENTAL ILLNESS! <---

suggestion: any belief you "take in" should be backed with hard physical evidence otherwise it should NOT be considered, even if it "sounds right" or "clicks with you".

In my personal experience, I have "vibrated" with certain information that has turned out to be wrong and had "gut rejections" of information which has turned out to be right.

The explanation of this phenomenon is that THE MECHANISM OF COMMUNICATION was controlling my emotional state and thus the content of the communication was accepted without rational consideration.

---> ITS CALLED HYPNOSIS <---

After reconstructing my mind after being liquified by the new age/consipiracy/icke/tsarion/jones/maxwell "information", here's what I've concluded to be the actual, real, logical, physical truth told to you with no personal benefit to me:

1. THE JEWS FRAMED THE ARABS ON 911

2. THE WORLD IS RUN BY A JEWISH CRIMINAL NETWORK WHICH INCLUDES CONTROL OF THE MEDIA, BANKS, POLITICIANS, CORPORATIONS, ETC.

3. UFOs EXIST, SOME ARE ET, SOME ARE MAN-MADE

4. 99.9% OF UFOLOGY IS DISINFO/MENTAL ILLNESS/PROFITEERING

5. ETs ARE BENEVOLENT AND WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH US

6. RELIGION/NEW AGE/ETC IS ALL MAN-MADE MYTHOLOGY

7. MOST PEOPLE IN PROMINENCE IN THE CONSPIRACY, UFO, RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS ARE MENTALLY ILL AND SECRETLY STUDIED HYPNOSIS, USE IT ON YOU, BUT DONT TELL YOU ABOUT IT

8. THE CONSPIRACY CROWD (e.g YOU) ARE HIGHLY SUGGESTIBLE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING AROUND WITH MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ERROR IN THEIR BELIEF SYSTEMS
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What do Tsarion, Icke and Watt have in common? They all deny that Jesus Christ is our only saviour.

They can probably all agree on the past history up until now. They have different "solutions" for the future:

Tsarion: Discover your godhood within yourself, and become a little Druid.

Icke: Tune your vibration to the right frequency and you will transform to inifinite consciousness.

Watt: Grab a gun and run for hills.


Alex Jones is different from these people. He does believe in Jesus Christ, that is my impression anyway. Listen to this interview with Alex on the FutureQuake show, he goes into things he normally don't do on his radio show. His radio shows are made to appeal to a secular audience:

[link to www.futurequake.com]
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Right.


So as far as Jesus is concerned, everyone who lived before His time is just shit out of luck then, eh?

Nice.
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Red Ice radio is a scam
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Red ice radio is excellent. Why do you listen if you're offended unless of course you are a shill.
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Your momma is a free mason!!
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I haven't payed a penny for any information of Michael, David or Alex
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Michael Tsarion is not a Freemason but, definitely a fraud, a lairs & a deceiver. I can not believe American citizen believe to his lies; I was victim too,I am done for good.
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Michael Tsarion is not a Freemason but, definitely a fraud, a lairs & a deceiver. I can not believe American citizen believe to his lies; I was victim too,I am done for good.
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I haven't payed a penny for any information of Michael, David or Alex
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Propaganda is free. They get paid by the agency central casting of controlled opposition.
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Red Ice radio is a scam


Why would you say that? It is nothing of the sort. And all the information and radio interviews and graphics and videos and everything I've ever gotten from them has been free.
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Free? That's the first sign. Who's paying for it?

- subscribers pay, nay sayers get it all free...

Even if I do not agree to much of what the guests argue, the very fact it's being argued, and that avenues of research open up every time I doubt something I hear; well, all this leads me to keep subscribing, and funding all the efforts placed.

Hearing someone argue a point as truth can be a great motivator to find out what the truth actually is - no matter if they are right or wrong in what they say.

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