Michael Tsarion is a Freemason

Alex jones is also a fake.

Sometimes I think that everyone is a Freemason, except me!

I'm a Stonemason

aint that the truth....

And my first names is James

But, are you "on the square"?

proof?

No - just square

Im The Higher Most Mason

Michael Tsarion may or may not be a Freemason. All of that is vague speculation and bullshit GLP forum theorizing. What he IS however, is an overfed, pudgy Irish guy with a Celtic fetish, a goofy new agey name, and a penchant for getting up on a podium and telling various wishy washy fables, legends, and folk tales with ancient lost civilization nonsense mixed into the stew, and pseudo-romantic overtones to win over aging new agey barking moonbat women. All of which he passes off for legit historical/conspiracy research. And people fall for it, because everyone likes to hear a story that makes them feel like they're listening to something important.

Freemasons? I doubt that. Hm, psyops maybe. At least Icke and maybe Jones and Tsarion.
But Watt?

Elaborate!

how's about some proof there Popeye

funny, I was thinking the same thing yesterday

Yeah, that was us implanting thought on the subconscious of mankind.

Red Ice radio is a scam

he's a rosicrucian

i asked

he answered

go to his now defunct rant page of his blog by using the wayback machine or the internet archive

michael is a friend of mine... freemason, trust me i can,t stop laughing , he is the polar opposite of a mason in every possible way. he is the common mans truth. consider yourself lucky, that he has dedicated himself to the truth.

You mean the truth he can sell for $$$$$$.

godlikeproductions is a freemason!

OP = CIA

Alan Watt is not.

Icke, may be?

check this movie out it definitely makes a strong case for him being a Rosicrucian
[link to video.google.com]

In fact he threatened to kick my ass the other day for making this..heres some info on it.

[link to nowheretorun.podomatic.com]

You are fucking idiots
Do your own fucking research like tsarion and others did.
You fucking retards dont know shit.
In your eyes everybody is a freemason. What a fucking loser are you?? Tsarion is being attacked by fucking christians !!!

[link to www.youtube.com]

Watch this

oh most of you are so goddamn cynical, ungrateful little bratty things, my friggin god!

yea people suck alot these days but damn!

tell us what a halo-ed pedigreed truth-worker would look like in these pseudo-utopias. perfectionist malcontents, the lot of ya!

let's just say even if icke, tsarion are on to even 2% of something, and the other 98% they just made up, and they still make a living from their unconventional work, fine, gods bless em! I'm grateful for the 2% of truth I found and will keep searching on my own for more! does that mean I'm being scammed? some will say yes, but i think there's a different set of issues here...

( fyi I find their work, on the whole, empowering )

it's not their job to get me NOT to swallow a 'system' or 'theory of all things'

it's MINE.

what I say to myself is just use discernment - and then if you feel you can do it better, step up.

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I posted this on the "pro Tsarion" post: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Please read the two articles below. Here are links:
[link to www.outlawjournalism.com]
[link to www.outlawjournalism.com]

ARTICLE 1
Michael Tsarion Threatens to Kick Chris White’s Ass for Exposing Him
Outlaw News
December 16, 2007

New Age guru Michael Tsarion, who has recently been publicly exposed as a Freemason and generational occultist, has threatened physical violence against one of the people who assisted this exposure - Chris White, of the ‘Nowhere to Run’ internet radio show, who recently did a show on Tsarion’s occult connections, noting among other things that he is an admitted member of the Rosicrucian Order.

This show was brought up on Tsarion’s forum, and rather than respond to any of the facts brought up by Chris, Tsarion simply called him “trash who has emerged from his fucking toilet” and then stated that “the only debate i’ll give this pathetic specimen is with my fist” (entire response posted below).

Though this comment was somewhat offhand, and not something one would really take to court as a threat of assault, it shows Tsarion’s mindset. By degrading Chris with Ad Hominem attacks, Tsarion claims that he has no obligation to respond to any of the facts he brought up.

When I tried to go on his forum and bring up some of the facts mentioned on the show, my comment was denied approval by one of the Admins. This doesn’t surprise me. If you go on his forum, you will see that people are talking about the show, but none of them have said one word about the actual content of it. This is because any mention of the facts brought up in the show is disallowed from Michael Tsarion’s forum. I encourage anyone who doubts this to go and try to post something negative about “Mtsar” on his forum.

His forum is filled with people who follow him with religious fervor, and on my own forum, I have found that his followers will viciously attack anyone who mentions anything negative about their great spiritual leader. This is no different from the behavior of the members of any other cult.

All of this is simply further proof of what those of us in the know were already well aware of: Michael Tsarion is a fake and a shill, put out by the powers that be to mix fact with fiction and create mass confusion among our movement. He promotes the belief in aliens as well as a mass of other occult garbage including tarot cards and astrology. He also promotes the Rothschild funded philosophy of Theosophy, and is an apologist for the very high Freemason and founder of the OTO, Aliester Crowley, who it is recently declassified was a paid agent of MI-6.


Alan Watt, though apparently hesitant to say all he knows about this situation, has several times indicated that Michael Tsarion, David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, and the rest of that little club are all disinformation agents, put out there to mix the truth with the sci-fi/fantasy world of the New Age religion. Here is a recent interview where Alan discusses this.

It is also worth noting that Tsarion’s forum is hosted by Red Ice Creations, the Admin of which, Henrik Palmgren, does a radio show where Michael Tsarion is a regular guest. Alan Watt used to appear on this show every month, but recently he has stopped being invited, claiming on his own show which airs on RBN that this was due to the fact that he refused to go along with the “alien agenda” propaganda which most of the Red Ice guests promote. I like the guy, and we regularly like to each others sites, but apparently, Henrik has become a member of the club.

Chris White is a friend of mine, and after the threats and hateful statements which Tsarion has made against him, this issue is pretty close to home; I also feel that the people doing what he is doing, sabotaging our movement from within, are actually more damaging that the attacks from without. I am going to continue to do everything I can to make sure this man is fully exposed, so as he is no longer able to harm people with his psychologically and spiritually destructive propaganda.

-Andre

ARTICLE 2
Michael Tsarion Continues to Refuse to Respond to Evidence that He is a Shill

Outlaw News
December 16, 2007

Yesterday, I wrote a piece about a series of radio shows Chris White did on the vast inconsistencies and flat out disinformation that Michael Tsarion puts out. I also mentioned his connection to a mass of occult organizations, and the fact that when a member of his forum brought Chris’ show up, Tsarion threatened him with physical violence, and made the statement that he needed to be shut up. I included the fact that I had been blocked from posting on Michael’s forum. Tsarion has throughout the day continued to block me from posting, and has removed all comments which bring his nefarious affiliations into question.

I convinced a member of the Tsarion New Age cult who is also a Myspace friend of mine, Queen of Night, to go on the forum and post this article, since I had been disallowed. Likely because I dealt with Tsarion’s violent response in the article, he responded this time in a much more collected way, telling his devotees not to look at the allegations, as it would pollute them with negative energy. He still did not respond to a single one of the issues I brought up, which was smart, because anything he could give would be a lie.

I then asked another member of the cult to go on and post a comment I was not allowed to post, in which I suggested that if Tsarion does not have anything to hide, there is absolutely no reason that he should not respond to the facts that have been brought up by Alan Watt, Chris White, and others, and linked to a forum where a host of ex-Tsarion cult members were discussing being banned from the forum when they questioned him. This post was immediately deleted. Sadly, the cult member who agreed to post the comment for me saw nothing wrong with the fact that he deleted this, which proves the degree to which Tsarion has these people under his spell.

After listening to Chris White’s show and reading the post that I was able to sneak in through Queen of Night, a member of the forum, BelzeBob, politely suggested that some answers were in order, which Tsarion quite strategically refused to give. BelzeBob then said this:

Is my asking questions considered heresy?

Hallmarks of a “Cult”:

1. Everybody agrees with each other

2. And this becomes their strength

3. Asking questions and having a critical mind (about the “Cult”s doctrine) is not encouraged.

4. Any view that harmonizes with the “Cult”’s doctrine is good.

5. And any view that doesn’t harmonize is “an attack”

6. Where the solution is either a “counter-attack” or just silence.

7. Such views will never be given the chance to be thoroughly disproved as it is considered “unnecessary” and even “ridiculous”.

Just like asking difficult questions.

Another hallmark: in such a “Cult” people rarely learn anything. Except learning things by route and repeating them.

In all of these 20 or so posts regarding the “naughty” radio show I have not seen a single question answered. If nobody has answers:

A. Admit it.

B. Be silent.

When this post again went unanswered by Tsarion, and instead he simply reiterated that everyone needed to simply forget about everything that Alan, Chris and I have brought up, BelzeBob, being polite again, resigned from the forum. This was a nice bit of encouragement, as I have been viciously attacked by so many of the cultic followers over the last few days. Even when they are not vicious, they completely refuse to listen to any manner of reason. Several have also told me that even if Michael came out and admitted that he was a government agent, they would still believe everything he says, unquestioningly. This is not terribly surprising, because they all continue to defend Aliester Crowley, who was an admitted MI6 agent and high Freemason (none of them appear to actually know anything about the man save what Tsarion has told them, but defend him nonetheless).

Ultimately, these people are so far gone that very little can ever be done for them. They are consumed with the New Age sci-fi/fantasy reality which Tsarion promotes, and have no desire to free themselves from it; again, they are cult members. This may make some of you ask why I even bother to try and expose him, when the members of his cult are so far beyond help. To this I would respond that I am doing it for those who may not be very familiar with Tsarion, and have not yet been sucked into his demented paradigm, and I also want to encourage further inquiry into Tsarion’s past and present affiliations with nefarious groups, and put all of this on the record for the future, when even more damning evidence is sure to be uncovered. Along with this, I am doing it for people like BelzeBob, who have the strength and personal integrity to pull themselves up out of the state of mind control and indoctrination that Tsarion has inflicted upon them. Lastly, I feel the need to expose this man on principle alone, as he is spreading an incredibly destructive doctrine though out this entire movement with great force, due to the tremendous backing that he clearly has.

Michael Tsarion is a part of a standard counterintelligence operation. The subject has been written about extensively in government manuals, many of which are publicly available. The way it works is rather simple: when information that the powers that be are afraid of the general public having access to begins to come up from the grassroots, they then create an extremely well funded superstar to come out with that information, but mix it with other nonsensical information, such as aliens, tarot cards, astrology, and other fantastic or religious type of disinformation. People are drawn to the individual, who comes on the scene as a hero, because he is saying things that they know are true. They then swallow the rest of the nonsense along with it, because they trust the shill who is feeding it to them. The disinformation completely neutralizes whatever truth they have been given, and the shill will generally slowly crank up the level of fantastical disinformation as the years go on, as anyone who has followed Tsarion’s work is aware he has done.

The man is also pulling in incredible amounts of cash, selling his DVDs for up to 60 bucks. This is another foundational pillar of a cult – only the leaders have the answers you need, and you have to pay extortionary rates to get a hold of them.

I want to continue to encourage anyone who doubts what I am saying to go to Tsarions forum:

[link to www.redicecreations.com]

Get an account, and try to go on there and ask him if he is a member of the Rosy Croix, why he blocks people who question him, what his response is to Alan Watt’s allegations, why he won’t debate Alan, why he defends admitted government disinformationalists, or anything else I have mentioned here, and I guarantee you will have all doubt removed when he blocks you.

Also, because this is an information war scenario, and we do want to wake up the people who have fallen for Frater Tsarion’s tricks, anyone who feels a conviction to do so should try to get access to the forum by posting something benign, getting vetted so you can post without having your posts checked, and then posting questions and links to this article. Be polite and precise, and just tell him you want some response. If enough people see it and respond to it before he does, he cannot delete it – this is what happened with the post I got Queen of Night to make.

What I am trying to do here is force Tsarion into some kind of public confrontation, hopefully on Red Ice radio, with either Alan Watt, Chris White, or me. I would at least like to see some kind of public statement from him regarding all of the points that we have made. I see no reason why, if Michael has nothing to hide, he cannot respond in some way that is not simply a threat of physical violence.

I am going to continue to cover this situation in the future, and I would appreciate it if anyone who digs up further information of Michael Tsarion would please contact me at [email protected]

1 love,
-Andre

meh...

i know you're doing it out of a true interest in doing what's right, and that's very cool.

it's just that EVERYTHING IS A CULT. subcultures, truthers, fundamentalists, skeptics, zen monks, even regular non-affiliated 'open-minded' people (like us GLP people often purport to be). The way we live our lives is a cult. We grow up and somewhere along the way get switched to creepy, conditioned 'default mode'.

Just do your best to enjoy the cult you find yourself in.

Yep,
He hasn't responded to any of the allegations either.
he has told everyone that I am an Illuminati disinformant and a "jesuit stooge" so I guess thats will have to suffice.

if you watch the movie you will see that I think he was trained by theosophist since an early age to be doing whaty he is doing..I.E. prepping our conspiracy starved minds for a one world religion.

I also did a show detailing a lot of major errors he has in his presentations, these are not the kind mistakes one makes if you just missed something..Its very calculated stuff.

btw If you dont believe that the Sitchin back story could be a NWO fabrication check this out
http;//sitchiniswrong.com

Who cares if the guy is a mason or not?




I have no idea if he is a 'nWo stooge' or not, but his work is as factually accurate as Erich Von Daniken's...

And your proof is?