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the 3 minute music video that Christians do not like

 
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the 3 minute music video that Christians do not like


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bump
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so
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Love the song and definitely love the clip.

5 stars & a bumb !
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bump it just makes so much sence
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What we have here is a clear case of willful ignorance on behalf of these so-called adult Christians. They have taken the myth literally, and piled so much onto it that they cannot see the forest for the trees. They refuse to believe that they are hold-outs to a sun cult.

They won't see it, because their egos WANT so much for the literal version to be true. They want their eternal life. They want their heavenly father (Sun) to be a real conscious person, rather than a ball of fire that provides mere illumination.

They have anthropomorphised their Sun to the point where they can no longer recognize the original object of their worship.
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it is so damn obvious, and whoever can not see it is brainwashed.
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They have anthropomorphised their Sun to the point where they can no longer recognize the original object of their worship.
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exact.
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I think what people don't understand is that when the picture of Christ was painted, carved, etc., they would put a halo around him. This halo is not symbolic of the sun at all. This halo is symbolic of his aura. From what I've read, all great teachers should have a yellow aura. Of course, for many humans, this aura is difficult to see. I even tried to see it in people, but it's a bit hard for me to see past the first level. And I only tried to see because I wanted to know if it was true or not, but there is some truth to this "aura" business.

As a Catholic, I know the difference between the Son and Sun. Every star -not planets, comets, asteroids, etc. - you see in the sky is a possible sun with a possibility of having it's own solar system with life in other planets. So there is a big difference between worshipping the sun and the Son.

God is not our Sun. The Son of God is not the sun. God is everything in and out of this universe. I'm still trying to understand the concept of the Son of God, but I believe there's something there that speaks the truth about Jesus of Nazareth and who he was. The possibilities of anything happening in this universe are endless - after all, we're here and so are all these other planets and stars (suns), galaxies, etc. that is beyond my capabilities to understand why it happened, where did it come from, etc. There are just too many questions to ask.

BTW. The clips are nice, esp. the first one.
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No guys.

What happened was, there were a lot of sun worshipers back in the day. In order to make the message of the Gospel more appealing, they likened Messiah to the sun. The rest is history.

You'll not find any link between Dec 25 and Christianity for some time after the religion's inception.



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11/26/2007 02:42 PM
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LOL! Son = Sun!

And yet, they still refuse to admit to themselves that the Christian church is run by Atenists!
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hui ming ching, dudes. There is the real deal.
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What is hui ming ching?
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So what in the world does the Catholic perversions of the gospel have to do with worshipping God in Spirit and Truth?

Anyone who is so spiritually blind that they cannot see the fulfillment of bible prophecy (Mystery Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots), is probably never going to see just how badly they've been had.

Satan has done a MASTERFUL job at getting them to throw the baby out with the bathwater. (throwing Jesus out with the Satanic lies and perversions of the truth)
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You'll not find any link between Dec 25 and Christianity for some time after the religion's inception.
 Quoting: Nimhalti


That's because there was more than one Jesus character which was being worshiped as a messiah. Indeed, early accounts place one historical Jesus around 100 BC. Yes -- 100 years prior.

Furthermore, the word "Jesus" implies a savior. It can be both a title as well as a name. It would be like President Bush's first name being "President" rather than "George".

Think about the name of the religion -- CHRIST-ianity. This implies Christ-worship, NOT any particular Christ -- ALL Christs. They have lumped the most popular of them into a single mythological figure.
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Um...no sir. Jesus (Yeshua) is a name. I'm fluent in Hebrew, you're not gonna pull this "its a title" crap on me.
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Um...no sir. Jesus (Yeshua) is a name. I'm fluent in Hebrew, you're not gonna pull this "its a title" crap on me.
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Are you saying the name Jesus is Yeshua in Hebrew? Just asking. Thanks.
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So....what happens when the Sun dies on the cross?

Thread: So the Sun dies on the cross and resurrects 3 days later....is this december alignment The Cross??? (Page 2)
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Yes, but did the sun come as a human son, that is the question. And the answer is yes Ding, Ding, Ding! If you got that right you will live in eternal peace wit the Sun, son. Because our Galactic father is coming and if you aint worshiping hie Sun, Son, you are going to HELL!
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Yes, but did the sun come as a human son, that is the question. And the answer is yes Ding, Ding, Ding! If you got that right you will live in eternal peace wit the Sun, son. Because our Galactic father is coming and if you aint worshiping hie Sun, Son, you are going to HELL!
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bump it just makes so much sence
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rofl


And therein lies the deceit...
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Re: the 3 minute music video that Christians do not like
Yes, but did the sun come as a human son, that is the question. And the answer is yes Ding, Ding, Ding! If you got that right you will live in eternal peace wit the Sun, son. Because our Galactic father is coming and if you aint worshiping hie Sun, Son, you are going to HELL!
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Thats how much he loves you you see. It's like the crazed husband or botfriend that proclaims....If I can't have her nobady will!
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Um...no sir. Jesus (Yeshua) is a name. I'm fluent in Hebrew, you're not gonna pull this "its a title" crap on me.
Are you saying the name Jesus is Yeshua in Hebrew? Just asking. Thanks.
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It is Yeshua (Joshua)(Jesus), etc
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Meh I pretty much use em interchangeably. No name nazi here ;)

Yeshua is probably the most accurate and the one I prefer, but I default to Jesus when speaking to English speakers as it leads to less confusion.
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Are you saying the name Jesus is Yeshua in Hebrew? Just asking. Thanks.


I'm not sure what you mean. It depends on which scholars you believe I guess.

Yeshua is likely a shortening of Yehoshua (Joshua), or it could just be an alteration of the same name (trying to think of an example, something like Justin/Dustin comes to mind). It has been suggested that Yehoshua was Jesus' real name and it was just shortened to Yeshua for clarity and brevity. Both of the names mean almost the same exact thing so I don't think it matters much.
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Yes, but did the sun come as a human son, that is the question. And the answer is yes Ding, Ding, Ding! If you got that right you will live in eternal peace wit the Sun, son. Because our Galactic father is coming and if you aint worshiping hie Sun, Son, you are going to HELL!

Thats how much he loves you you see. It's like the crazed husband or botfriend that proclaims....If I can't have her nobady will!
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apparently you didn't see me double postchuckleson soonanon
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Um...no sir. Jesus (Yeshua) is a name. I'm fluent in Hebrew, you're not gonna pull this "its a title" crap on me.
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It means "Yahweh Saves". Do you disagree?
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"Y'shu" is a shorten form of "Yehoshua", which means "Yahweh saves" or "God saves" or "Savior".
This name is also spelled as "Y'shua" "Yeshua"and "Joshua".
The Hebrew name "Y'shu" became "Iêsous" in the Greek translated form, which became "Iesus" in the Latinized form, which became "Jesus" in the Anglicized form, and became "Yasou" in the Arabic Anglicized form.
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Savior is a title, is it not?
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Actually, Yeshua is the Hebrew word for Salvation

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Um...no sir. Jesus (Yeshua) is a name. I'm fluent in Hebrew, you're not gonna pull this "its a title" crap on me.


It means "Yahweh Saves". Do you disagree?
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saves for...........a rainy day? coupons? what?
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Oh sorry, didn't see that post.

Yes, Yeshua can also mean "God who is salvation"
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