December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007



And it is a grand conjunction - not a grand cross.

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007



And it is a grand conjunction - not a grand cross.

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007



And it is a grand conjunction - not a grand cross.


But there is no grand conjunction in 2007! Not that I can find anyway. Hell I'm confused!

There has been lots of talk about this date latley. I became interested in it some time ago now, other information has been pouring out, one after another that basically confirm that this will be an incredible event indeed.
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A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.



Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007

This on its own is a miraculous event, An extremely rare occasion. The silence about its even existence is deafening.
There are people who i have spoke with who fact think that this is the misinterpreted story of the bible, related to the 3 days of darkness.
They think the Sun will be on the galactic cross and die and be reborn again after 3 days.
I do think that story is related, however as in the "on earth as it is in heaven" part.
i am not Christian, but i was aghast at the significance of celestial events.
The we have Comet Holmes. They say comets are the harbingers of great change.
If the galactic Cross and the amazing Comet Holmes was not enough to make me really sit up and take note, we have 2 more comets showing up that will be in our skies on the 23rd.
[link to www.texasastro.org]

When Italian astronomer Andrea Boattini announced from Arizona’s Mount Lemmon Observatory, this past week, of his discovery of a new comet (C/2007W-Boattini), expected to be observable from Earth in June, 2008, it brought the number of new comets discovered this year to 146, and which, according to Sergei Smirnov, of the Pulkovo Observatory in St. Petersburg, constitutes ‘an historically unprecedented comet swarm’ never before seen entering into our Solar System.

Also known as the 3 wize men.

Anyone been looking at the Sun lately?
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

look at it now.. it has been like that for ages. Minimal activity, nothing almost. Where are the Sunspots?
This is the calm before the storm, i truly believe.

A poster on GLP posted a Thread about an Ex Whitehouse employee releasing information from NASA and university studies.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
there is some awesome information there about what is going on. The beef is that poleshifts have happened recently on Neptune and pluto, that Mars is now a visible Blue and Green planet now and is being secretly Terraformed. Funny rockerfeller talked about that too,
More interestingly, NASA have detected movement at our Polar plates. It is likely we will have a pole shift of some sort in the near furure. Im not a fan of Zetatalk and this does not mean Nancy is right, A pole shift has been spoken of by many people, some a lot earlier. It is the story weaved around it that is wrong.
We are not originally from the Milky Way, read the link above, it will explain.

Then we get to Washington DC, a big smoking gun that backs my theory and what is happening exactly.
[link to salonesoterica.wordpress.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
This thread at GLP also explains how the sacred Geometry of DC points us to december 2007 too.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Merry Christmas folks, there is more that i will post on this, but thats a good putting together of some of the information so far.
I think this is an incredible and unbelievable time.
Those who can see do not need to be told.

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007



And it is a grand conjunction - not a grand cross.


But there is no grand conjunction in 2007! Not that I can find anyway. Hell I'm confused!


21 Dec 2012!! Thats it.

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007



And it is a grand conjunction - not a grand cross.


But there is no grand conjunction in 2007! Not that I can find anyway. Hell I'm confused!


21 Dec 2012!! Thats it.

There is not one on the 21st december 2012, it is on 23rd december 2007..
Check thwe simulator, there is no event on the Winter solstice in 2012. Thats because it is this year. maybe because this really is 2012. But that is not the point, the point is that it is this year on the 23rd.
Research guys, words are cheap.

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007



And it is a grand conjunction - not a grand cross.


But there is no grand conjunction in 2007! Not that I can find anyway. Hell I'm confused!


21 Dec 2012!! Thats it.

There is not one on the 21st december 2012, it is on 23rd december 2007..
Check thwe simulator, there is no event on the Winter solstice in 2012. Thats because it is this year. maybe because this really is 2012. But that is not the point, the point is that it is this year on the 23rd.
Research guys, words are cheap.


I have seen the simulator but is it realy the grand cross the mayans were talking about?

Hopefully by now many of you have read this thread.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The first Fact is that on December 23rd 2007 we have a major, unique special celestial event. Make no mistake, all of these things happening at this time are major events on there own. Put them all together and we have the Gret galactic Cross event. Our Sun will be on a Galactic cross along with other amazing celestial events all on the same day!

A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.



Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007

Ok, now look at this famous French landmark, the Hendaye Cross.
[link to www.jayweidner.com]

this cross has been wrote about quite a bit in conspiracy and special interest circles for quite some time now.
The Great Cross at Hendaye appears to be describing not only the end of the great four ages of the Hindu Yuga system but also the four ages of alchemical chronological time keeping. According to the cross at Hendaye the Iron Age, or the Kali Yuga, will be coming to an end with the galactic alignment on the winter solstice of December 21st 2012.
[link to www.2012theodyssey.com]

The big problem is that there is no Great galactic Cross event in 2012 whatsoever. Go through the simulator and you will find that the most special celestial event in 2012 is a conjunction with Venus.
The event that is being depicted on this cross are happening now, december 23rd 2007.

All through History people have known of this event and when it would occur. All masons and secret societies of the ages. They hid these hidden messages in public view so that the ones that have eyes could see it and decipher it.
[link to www.tartanthemes.com]
Look at this Celtic cross, from before the New testament and the birth of Jesus Christ.
We were already depicting Suns on crosses from before the time of the crucifiction. The Ancients were telling us about this event , the most important events that happen in our History. Perhaps some ancient record of the last time it happened. And warning us when it will happen again. This reason alone was the most significant in Man studying Astrology.
Here are more images of the Sun on the Cross.

[link to www.scanglas.se]
Ancient Iron age pottery.
[link to images.google.co.uk]

[link to www.drcolinparsons.org.uk]
Ancient italy
[link to images.google.co.uk]

[link to hamsa.org]
Ancient Persian Cross
[link to hamsa.org]

Look at this from the US Bible.
[link to www.usbible.com]
Hidden away again, in plain sight.
In fact this image is all throughout our history.

[link to www.geocities.com]
Ancient Egypt

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
The Viking Sun cross

[link to www.qedata.se]
Lithuanian sun cross

Nazi Eagle
[link to axis101.bizland.com]

[link to www.crwflags.com]
Norwegian Navy

[link to www.medal-medaille.com]
Masonic order of the Sun

[link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]


[link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]

So the image of a Sun on a cross has been passed down to us from many Millenia gone, from before recorded history. The ancients left us a message, one that told us of a special event that happens once every 26,000 years. The Mayans give us the date of 2012. The problem is that the event is in 2007 and not 2012, that is if this is not 2012 after all.
Either way it does not matter.
The event is this year, december 23rd 2007. The Great Galactic cross. The story hidden and known now mainly only by secret societies and now us. The masons have always known, it is one of their biggest secrets. They have hidden the real date in the washington architecture. All the info is in the first link. Skull and Bones set their watches 5 minutes ahead. This is known secretly to mean 5 years.
The new testament of the bible are a Romanic Jewish relatively new take on the original story. All the language was sexed up to match the times and to try and bring control over the masses for a new millenia. It worked.
The truth even still comes out of the words though.
If you swap the bible for a celestial event with the sun on the cross, all the other characters of revelation make sense.
The Woman of revelation is Venus. The 3 visable comets on the 23rd will be the 3 wise men. The Moon will also be blood red after a perfect Lunar eclipse with mars, also on the same remarkable evening.

Bottom line, no matter what you believe.
The Great Galactic cross Event on December 23rd 2007 is the biggest event in Humanities History, and Future. Total fact. And you have 17 days till it happens.
One of the biggest secrets of TPTB exposed for everyone to see. The Knowledge that every Man should know.

Alright, let's say this is all true...we are we supposed to do? Should we just go about our normal lives, head for the hills, meditate?

WHAT SHOULD WE DO FOR THIS EVENT?

Alright, let's say this is all true...we are we supposed to do? Should we just go about our normal lives, head for the hills, meditate?

WHAT SHOULD WE DO FOR THIS EVENT?


I am heading for the hills.

Nobody knows what will happen, we can merely calculate that this date is significant.

Alright, let's say this is all true...we are we supposed to do? Should we just go about our normal lives, head for the hills, meditate?

WHAT SHOULD WE DO FOR THIS EVENT?


I am heading for the hills.

Nobody knows what will happen, we can merely calculate that this date is significant.


If a pole shift occurs, that would mean tidal waves at the coastlines of the world (sea and waves roaring).

There is even a phrase in the Bible which states: 'those who dwell carelessly in the isles (coasts)..'

Heading for the hills isn't a bad idea, but if you're going north bring plenty of warm clothes as it is colder and snowier up here.

I do have a question for the OP...one I hope he can answer.

I have looked on some night sky simulators and cannot find the position of the full moon on 12/23/07 as being UNDER Venus.

One of the posters on the other thread mentioned this as well. He said that the moon wouldn't be anywhere near Venus on that day.

How do we know that will happen on that day, because the simulator programs don't show it. I know what it says in Revelation about the woman with the crown of 12 stars and the moon at her FEET..

My question OP, is how do we know the moon will be at Venus's feet on 12/23?

Thanks for your reply and any link you can provide for this.

Alright, let's say this is all true...we are we supposed to do? Should we just go about our normal lives, head for the hills, meditate?

WHAT SHOULD WE DO FOR THIS EVENT?


I am heading for the hills.

Nobody knows what will happen, we can merely calculate that this date is significant.


If a pole shift occurs, that would mean tidal waves at the coastlines of the world (sea and waves roaring).

There is even a phrase in the Bible which states: 'those who dwell carelessly in the isles (coasts)..'

Heading for the hills isn't a bad idea, but if you're going north bring plenty of warm clothes as it is colder and snowier up here.

I do have a question for the OP...one I hope he can answer.

I have looked on some night sky simulators and cannot find the position of the full moon on 12/23/07 as being UNDER Venus.

One of the posters on the other thread mentioned this as well. He said that the moon wouldn't be anywhere near Venus on that day.

How do we know that will happen on that day, because the simulator programs don't show it. I know what it says in Revelation about the woman with the crown of 12 stars and the moon at her FEET..

My question OP, is how do we know the moon will be at Venus's feet on 12/23?

Thanks for your reply and any link you can provide for this.

Hi there, i am not saying the bible is gospel truth, im not even religious. i was theorizing that Venus could be the woman of revelation if in fact we take it in an astrological context. Venuis will indeed have 12 "planets" above her head. The Moon will be blood red as it forms a perfect Martial eclipse.
The NASA simulator lets you look at all sorts of views, you can change it round and look at the entire solar system from whichever celestial body you choose.
Im not saying Revelations are accurate, it was just a comment on how it ties in with the rest of the study..
Can you not study yourself?
Seems a lot of people on here want others to do their groundwork for them.. I havent got time for that, i have many things to sort out.
All the information to point you in the right direction is in this thread.
If you wanna know more, Google can be your friend...
Good luck..

Alright, let's say this is all true...we are we supposed to do? Should we just go about our normal lives, head for the hills, meditate?

WHAT SHOULD WE DO FOR THIS EVENT?


I am heading for the hills.

Nobody knows what will happen, we can merely calculate that this date is significant.


If a pole shift occurs, that would mean tidal waves at the coastlines of the world (sea and waves roaring).

There is even a phrase in the Bible which states: 'those who dwell carelessly in the isles (coasts)..'

Heading for the hills isn't a bad idea, but if you're going north bring plenty of warm clothes as it is colder and snowier up here.

I do have a question for the OP...one I hope he can answer.

I have looked on some night sky simulators and cannot find the position of the full moon on 12/23/07 as being UNDER Venus.

One of the posters on the other thread mentioned this as well. He said that the moon wouldn't be anywhere near Venus on that day.

How do we know that will happen on that day, because the simulator programs don't show it. I know what it says in Revelation about the woman with the crown of 12 stars and the moon at her FEET..

My question OP, is how do we know the moon will be at Venus's feet on 12/23?

Thanks for your reply and any link you can provide for this.

Hi there, i am not saying the bible is gospel truth, im not even religious. i was theorizing that Venus could be the woman of revelation if in fact we take it in an astrological context. Venuis will indeed have 12 "planets" above her head. The Moon will be blood red as it forms a perfect Martial eclipse.
The NASA simulator lets you look at all sorts of views, you can change it round and look at the entire solar system from whichever celestial body you choose.
Im not saying Revelations are accurate, it was just a comment on how it ties in with the rest of the study..
Can you not study yourself?
Seems a lot of people on here want others to do their groundwork for them.. I havent got time for that, i have many things to sort out.
All the information to point you in the right direction is in this thread.
If you wanna know more, Google can be your friend...
Good luck..

If this was so important, then why isnt this being discussed in other forum websites?


It is... google December 23, 2007



And it is a grand conjunction - not a grand cross.

LMAO, its the Grand Conjunction that forms the Cross.
You guys.....

Again taking into account 2007 is 2012, this information is also credible.
We have seen what date DC depicts as Omega point, we have looked at what Omega point could mean.
The truth is becoming clearer.

2012, Doomsday & The Omega Point
Posted by Jonathan_McGregor_Bethel on 2007/4/10 0:54:39 (1328 reads)

The increased complexity and convoluted nature of our global civilization has made the threat of a pandemic a much more conceivable situation. A virus could be transferred to many areas of the world through our transportation grid in a very short period of time, and an all out pandemic could be actualized in a matter of weeks. When asked about a near future, foreseeable pandemic, doctors say it's a matter of “when” not “if” one breaks out. In the last 30 years we saw the introduction of many new biological threats: AIDS, SARS, West Nile, and now the Avian Flu, and these are threats that we must take seriously. When will this speculative disaster occur? It is uncertain, but scientists are very concerned about the possibility of a major unstoppable pandemic in the near future.


The author is either totally uninformed or a disinfo agent-those viruses are manmade,created in god knows who's labs.


A pandemic is just one possibility on the shelf of global, future threats. In addition, we have the Geo-Political environment, a motley crew of a makeup with each component striving for dominance on the world stage. It is one thing to agree to disagree with the other parties in the global arena; however, we now have radical terrorists, self proclaimed servants of God, who believe it is their God given duty to kill all those that will not convert to their way of thinking. It is hard to deal with these people in a rational manner, as their behavior elicits the very primitive instinct of seeking their utter destruction. In addition, we now have the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and they are now in the hands of some very fanatical and tyrannical leaders. It is easy to foresee and imagine that if the terrorists ignited a nuclear bomb in one of our cities due to their ideological insanity, then the civilized world could very easily retaliate, thereby sparking a nuclear tit-for-tat of all the countries involved. This is a very real possibility and something that MUST be avoided at all costs. Does that mean we should not retaliate if we were ever to be attacked with a nuclear bomb? Well, I am a warrior, and anyone trying to kill me, my family, my friends, or any of the citizens of my country should be very aware that there are many of us who will stand up and seek to destroy them utterly. But that being said, we need to be exceedingly careful not to spark a nuclear catastrophe, if that were to ever happen. Therefore, our retaliatory nature could pose a big problem as we move ahead, as we now live in a world where radical mentalities and terrorism exist.


Ah,the islamofascists..now I am sure he is either completely idiotic or is a fed -the only organisation who could cary out such high scale act of terrorism is the US government.Just like they carried out 9/11


What are we doing to ourselves? The planet was never intended to support life for 6.5 billion people, and that population is only increasing daily. The facts of the matter make one wince when looking at all the details, creating a nauseating feeling in the pit of the stomach. The melting of the ice caps is occurring from a multitude of sources that are causing Global Warming. It is not just our fuel use causing global warming...
...Global Warming is partly caused by man

Jonathan McGregor Bethel
[link to omegapoint.org]

why isn't anyone discussing the date encoded in the layout of Washington D.C.? I haven't checked it but does anyone know if there are any mistakes in these calculations? because if these calculations are correct and for me it seems they are, there is no point in discussing whether there will be a cross or not or whether there will be moon under Venus or not. If it was important enough for the founders of the US to point to this date as Omega date, then I don't care about any other facts. and anyway, one of the charts I saw clearly shows a cross and the lines between planets actually cross at a right angle