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| MJ
User ID: 335537
12/6/2007 6:14 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 328104
12/6/2007 6:17 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Further symbolism?
Last years super bowl!
Flip the winners logo upside down, and what do you get?
[link to images.google.com] |
| MJ
User ID: 335537
12/6/2007 6:24 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Here is more facts that 2007 is the end of the Mayan calender, not 2012.
The diagram on the left also shows the cross that is forming, the pics compare the 21st of December in both 2007 and 2012.
Imagine the pic on the left 2 days later. A perfect Cross.
More and more truths are out here folks...
Look at the diagram on the right . Winter solstice in 2012, there is absolutely nothing!
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2007 is 2012
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When Is The End Of The Mayan Calendar?
2007 equals 9
9 is the end of a cycle
December 21 2007
See the focused power and energy!
2012 equals 5
5 is a year of change
December 21 2012
2012.jpg
The energies are scattered and dispersed.
Do you think that we should wait for 2012?
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| Starseeder
User ID: 322788
12/6/2007 7:49 PM
 | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
A cross exactly on the galactic center... [link to www.letsgodigital.org]
Like usual, this is intended for those in the know.
Simplicity is the key to Heaven. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 246859
12/6/2007 7:51 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Nice find Star, thanks. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304329
12/6/2007 8:04 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
MJ, along with the others in this thread im sure, i would like to congratulate you on your efforts! I have been "pulled" (rather than pushed) along by my higher guidance im sure.. i knew i ended up at GLP for a reason, and i believe this 2007=2012 is it.
I would very much like to communicate with you outside of this thread through email, if thats OK with you? My email is: shrunkensimon@gmail.com I look forward to hearing from you
To everyone else,
There will be no doom.. you ALL know what is going to happen. The truth is buried within the subconscious mind (collective human consciousness). We have all lived these times before. We are all lucky enough to be alive right now to experience this grand finale, to what is most likely to be, the "greatest reality show in the Universe"..
..then the curtain will fall, and we will all be backstage for the after party!
 |
| riCo
User ID: 295215
12/6/2007 8:11 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Hi Mj, I really appreciate your work on this topic, it helped me alot to see things more clearly.
I now understood, how the galactic cross is formed, aswell as the planetary cross. I also understand why the moon will be bloodred. But i read something about the moon beeing on the feet of venus and i really cant see how this could happen on that date. Is it a misstake, or am I`m just to blind to see it? ^^
It would be great if anyone of you could make this more clear. Thanks in advance!
greets riCo |
| Mark In NYC
User ID: 325789
12/6/2007 8:19 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
We can look at the star charts of our solar system and know that on Dec 23rd 2007 there is a major conjunction that has not happened for a long long time.
Whether this conjunction itself is the event or it is a harbringger or announcement of the event - which will take place more slowly becoming manifest over the following weeks, months, or years is something that only time will be able to tell us. It's going to be a while until we know for certain.
Life really is a banquet - and truly - most poor sucker are starving! Enjoy the ride baby. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 328104
12/6/2007 8:39 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Yeah, unbelievable. XP, Planet X, lots of x's in our world. It all starting to make sense. Just like they have always said it would. In the end. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 326961
12/6/2007 8:39 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
X marks the spot |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335684
12/7/2007 12:03 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
I was dreamin' when I wrote this
Forgive me if it goes astray
But when I woke up this mornin'
Coulda sworn it was judgment day
The sky was all purple
There were people runnin' everywhere
Tryin' 2 run from the destruction
U know I didn't even care
'Cuz they say two thousand zero zero party over
Oops out of time
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999
I was dreamin' when I wrote this
So sue me if I go 2 fast
But life is just a party
And parties weren't meant 2 last
War is all around us
My mind says prepare 2 fight
So if I gotta die
I'm gonna listen 2 my body tonight |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16622
12/7/2007 12:04 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
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| Fool
User ID: 330572
12/7/2007 12:06 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Pretty sure more things happen in 2007 than they will in 2012 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335684
12/7/2007 12:10 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
the sky was purple
purple rain? |
| MJ
User ID: 275647
12/7/2007 5:13 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Theres many clues like this Star, nice digging though.. |
| MJ
User ID: 275647
12/7/2007 5:20 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Hi Mj, I really appreciate your work on this topic, it helped me alot to see things more clearly.
I now understood, how the galactic cross is formed, aswell as the planetary cross. I also understand why the moon will be bloodred. But i read something about the moon beeing on the feet of venus and i really cant see how this could happen on that date. Is it a misstake, or am I`m just to blind to see it? ^^
It would be great if anyone of you could make this more clear. Thanks in advance!
greets riCo Quoting: riCo 295215
Hi Rico, the Moon at the foot of Venus is from Revelations. I was referring to this as there will be 12 Planetery bodies at her head. I checked the simulator, and i thought that it could possibly be taken in that context, but personally, i would only call extracts from the bible, " secondary" evidence, and would not teven begin to take it literally. Interesting though we also have 3 comets visible in our solar system on this evening, interesting in a 3 wise men context....
If we take the Bible in an astrological context we can see the similarities. But imagine the story being retold and rewritten over 26000 years. We have ended up with a chinese whispers book of the ancients. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336643
12/7/2007 5:22 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Maybe instead of Day of Destiny , Destinys Day? |
| * <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
12/7/2007 5:23 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Hopefully by now many of you have read this thread.
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
The first Fact is that on December 23rd 2007 we have a major, unique special celestial event. Make no mistake, all of these things happening at this time are major events on there own. Put them all together and we have the Gret galactic Cross event. Our Sun will be on a Galactic cross along with other amazing celestial events all on the same day!
A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.
Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007
Ok, now look at this famous French landmark, the Hendaye Cross.
[ link to www.jayweidner.com]
this cross has been wrote about quite a bit in conspiracy and special interest circles for quite some time now.
The Great Cross at Hendaye appears to be describing not only the end of the great four ages of the Hindu Yuga system but also the four ages of alchemical chronological time keeping. According to the cross at Hendaye the Iron Age, or the Kali Yuga, will be coming to an end with the galactic alignment on the winter solstice of December 21st 2012.
[ link to www.2012theodyssey.com]
The big problem is that there is no Great galactic Cross event in 2012 whatsoever. Go through the simulator and you will find that the most special celestial event in 2012 is a conjunction with Venus.
The event that is being depicted on this cross are happening now, december 23rd 2007.
All through History people have known of this event and when it would occur. All masons and secret societies of the ages. They hid these hidden messages in public view so that the ones that have eyes could see it and decipher it.
[ link to www.tartanthemes.com]
Look at this Celtic cross, from before the New testament and the birth of Jesus Christ.
We were already depicting Suns on crosses from before the time of the crucifiction. The Ancients were telling us about this event , the most important events that happen in our History. Perhaps some ancient record of the last time it happened. And warning us when it will happen again. This reason alone was the most significant in Man studying Astrology.
Here are more images of the Sun on the Cross.
[ link to www.scanglas.se]
Ancient Iron age pottery.
[ link to images.google.co.uk]
[ link to www.drcolinparsons.org.uk]
Ancient italy
[ link to images.google.co.uk]
[ link to hamsa.org]
Ancient Persian Cross
[ link to hamsa.org]
Look at this from the US Bible.
[ link to www.usbible.com]
Hidden away again, in plain sight.
In fact this image is all throughout our history.
[ link to www.geocities.com]
Ancient Egypt
[ link to upload.wikimedia.org]
The Viking Sun cross
[ link to www.qedata.se]
Lithuanian sun cross
Nazi Eagle
[ link to axis101.bizland.com]
[ link to www.crwflags.com]
Norwegian Navy
[ link to www.medal-medaille.com]
Masonic order of the Sun
[ link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]
[ link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]
So the image of a Sun on a cross has been passed down to us from many Millenia gone, from before recorded history. The ancients left us a message, one that told us of a special event that happens once every 26,000 years. The Mayans give us the date of 2012. The problem is that the event is in 2007 and not 2012, that is if this is not 2012 after all.
Either way it does not matter.
The event is this year, december 23rd 2007. The Great Galactic cross. The story hidden and known now mainly only by secret societies and now us. The masons have always known, it is one of their biggest secrets. They have hidden the real date in the washington architecture. All the info is in the first link. Skull and Bones set their watches 5 minutes ahead. This is known secretly to mean 5 years.
The new testament of the bible are a Romanic Jewish relatively new take on the original story. All the language was sexed up to match the times and to try and bring control over the masses for a new millenia. It worked.
The truth even still comes out of the words though.
If you swap the bible for a celestial event with the sun on the cross, all the other characters of revelation make sense.
The Woman of revelation is Venus. The 3 visable comets on the 23rd will be the 3 wise men. The Moon will also be blood red after a perfect Lunar eclipse with mars, also on the same remarkable evening.
Bottom line, no matter what you believe.
The Great Galactic cross Event on December 23rd 2007 is the biggest event in Humanities History, and Future. Total fact. And you have 17 days till it happens.
One of the biggest secrets of TPTB exposed for everyone to see. The Knowledge that every Man should know.
Very interesting. I truly hope that is the day of destiny ...i am getting tired of waiting LOL. I know it will come though I have no doubt about that.
This could very well be that date.
Thank you for all your info : )
Peace : ) |
| MJ
User ID: 275647
12/7/2007 5:23 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Pretty sure more things happen in 2007 than they will in 2012 Quoting: Fool 330572
i agree, but i must admit after all the years of study i have put in to this, i seriously believe this year is 2012.
The evidence is overwhelming.
The 23rd was the date talked about for a long time..
TYou have only to check 2012 calender and the solstice is on the 21st.
Not to mention the DC architecture, the skull and bones thing. The fact we have a great galactic conjunction this year, the fact there is not one in 2012.
When you really start ploughing through all the evidence, there really is no case for 2012 being 2012.... |
| alaaaan
User ID: 336644
12/7/2007 5:24 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
so,does this mean santa isnt coming? |
| * <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
12/7/2007 5:25 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Day of Destiny ....lol ...i really really really really really really really like that name : ) A wholeeee lot : )
For one and all : ) All for one and one for all LOL : )
Peaceeee : ) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275647
12/7/2007 5:27 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Hopefully by now many of you have read this thread.
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
The first Fact is that on December 23rd 2007 we have a major, unique special celestial event. Make no mistake, all of these things happening at this time are major events on there own. Put them all together and we have the Gret galactic Cross event. Our Sun will be on a Galactic cross along with other amazing celestial events all on the same day!
A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.
Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007
Ok, now look at this famous French landmark, the Hendaye Cross.
[ link to www.jayweidner.com]
this cross has been wrote about quite a bit in conspiracy and special interest circles for quite some time now.
The Great Cross at Hendaye appears to be describing not only the end of the great four ages of the Hindu Yuga system but also the four ages of alchemical chronological time keeping. According to the cross at Hendaye the Iron Age, or the Kali Yuga, will be coming to an end with the galactic alignment on the winter solstice of December 21st 2012.
[ link to www.2012theodyssey.com]
The big problem is that there is no Great galactic Cross event in 2012 whatsoever. Go through the simulator and you will find that the most special celestial event in 2012 is a conjunction with Venus.
The event that is being depicted on this cross are happening now, december 23rd 2007.
All through History people have known of this event and when it would occur. All masons and secret societies of the ages. They hid these hidden messages in public view so that the ones that have eyes could see it and decipher it.
[ link to www.tartanthemes.com]
Look at this Celtic cross, from before the New testament and the birth of Jesus Christ.
We were already depicting Suns on crosses from before the time of the crucifiction. The Ancients were telling us about this event , the most important events that happen in our History. Perhaps some ancient record of the last time it happened. And warning us when it will happen again. This reason alone was the most significant in Man studying Astrology.
Here are more images of the Sun on the Cross.
[ link to www.scanglas.se]
Ancient Iron age pottery.
[ link to images.google.co.uk]
[ link to www.drcolinparsons.org.uk]
Ancient italy
[ link to images.google.co.uk]
[ link to hamsa.org]
Ancient Persian Cross
[ link to hamsa.org]
Look at this from the US Bible.
[ link to www.usbible.com]
Hidden away again, in plain sight.
In fact this image is all throughout our history.
[ link to www.geocities.com]
Ancient Egypt
[ link to upload.wikimedia.org]
The Viking Sun cross
[ link to www.qedata.se]
Lithuanian sun cross
Nazi Eagle
[ link to axis101.bizland.com]
[ link to www.crwflags.com]
Norwegian Navy
[ link to www.medal-medaille.com]
Masonic order of the Sun
[ link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]
[ link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]
So the image of a Sun on a cross has been passed down to us from many Millenia gone, from before recorded history. The ancients left us a message, one that told us of a special event that happens once every 26,000 years. The Mayans give us the date of 2012. The problem is that the event is in 2007 and not 2012, that is if this is not 2012 after all.
Either way it does not matter.
The event is this year, december 23rd 2007. The Great Galactic cross. The story hidden and known now mainly only by secret societies and now us. The masons have always known, it is one of their biggest secrets. They have hidden the real date in the washington architecture. All the info is in the first link. Skull and Bones set their watches 5 minutes ahead. This is known secretly to mean 5 years.
The new testament of the bible are a Romanic Jewish relatively new take on the original story. All the language was sexed up to match the times and to try and bring control over the masses for a new millenia. It worked.
The truth even still comes out of the words though.
If you swap the bible for a celestial event with the sun on the cross, all the other characters of revelation make sense.
The Woman of revelation is Venus. The 3 visable comets on the 23rd will be the 3 wise men. The Moon will also be blood red after a perfect Lunar eclipse with mars, also on the same remarkable evening.
Bottom line, no matter what you believe.
The Great Galactic cross Event on December 23rd 2007 is the biggest event in Humanities History, and Future. Total fact. And you have 17 days till it happens.
One of the biggest secrets of TPTB exposed for everyone to see. The Knowledge that every Man should know.
Very interesting. I truly hope that is the day of destiny ...i am getting tired of waiting LOL. I know it will come though I have no doubt about that.
This could very well be that date.
Thank you for all your info : )
Peace : )
Oh , this is the one, Star, nyou know it too mate. For one the evidence is overwelming... when you can see the truth, many other bits of evidence start to make real sense.
I know that this is the day, and i am doing all i can to increase the awareness.. I do not know what will happen, but i do know this is the end of an age, and the beginning of a new one.
Good luck Pal, and make sure you find the real Ark... |
| * <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
12/7/2007 5:30 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Ohhhh thanks Buddy : ) You make me feel good : ) and sometimes life is depressing. So you are a cool dude in my book : )
You are on the soul train : ) Welcome aboard : ) |
| * <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
12/7/2007 5:32 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Good nite everyone ...im going into dream time now : ) |
| MJ
User ID: 275647
12/7/2007 5:33 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Day of Destiny ....lol ...i really really really really really really really like that name : ) A wholeeee lot : )
For one and all : ) All for one and one for all LOL : )
Peaceeee : ) Quoting: * <----star of destiny 279402
I thought you might. It really is the day of destiny, 23/12/2007..
Google " The Number 23"
this is the day, there are many clues for those that can see...
in 2012 it would be 21...??? Doesnt work..
23 is the day. 23 and 12 and 9 very important numbers...especially in the year of the great 7s... |
| MJ
User ID: 275647
12/7/2007 5:35 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
so,does this mean santa isnt coming? Quoting: alaaaan 336644
Santa is coming early this year... |
| MJ
User ID: 275647
12/7/2007 5:50 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Read all of this on the number 23..
If the Mayans said that this period of the World would end on December 23rd 2012, why is that 2 days after their Solstice?
The reason why is that the 23rd definitely is the day, but it is this year, 2007.. I am 100% positive 2007 is 2012..
Anyway, some good stuff here.
[link to www.elliottback.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331608
12/7/2007 6:51 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Do you think that we should wait for 2012? Quoting: MJ 335537
do we have a choice? ... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336491
12/7/2007 7:00 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Here you go, MJ- I will post more on The Chatisement.
Garabandal
The Story
San Sebastian de Garabandal is a small hamlet of some 80 humble dwellings in the Cantabrian Mountains of northwest Spain. From June 1, 1961 to November 13, 1965, a Lady appeared to four young girls of the village. During this four-year period, an extraordinary number, over 2,000, of apparitions occurred, some lasting a few hours. The four girls (Conchita Gonzales, Mari Loli Mazon, Jacinta Gonzalez, and Mari Cruz Gonzalez) were eleven and twelve years old at the time. While praying on the outskirts of the village, they heard a sound like thunder. Suddenly, there stood before them a dazzling angel. He said nothing and quickly disappeared. Pale and visibly shaken, the girls ran to the village church, and the apparition soon became known. Over the next twelve days, the angel appeared to them several more times, and on July 1, he spoke for the first time, announcing that on following day the "Blessed Virgin" would appear to them.
News spread quickly, and numerous visitors joined the villagers to witness the event. At about six o'clock p.m., the children were headed for the spot, where they had been seeing the angel, when the Blessed Virgin appeared with an angel on each side. They recognized one of the angels as the one who had been appearing to them. Above the Virgin was a large eye that the children thought to be the eye of God. They spoke openly and familiarly with the Lady and said the rosary in her presence. Over the next year and a half, she would appear hundreds of times.
The Messages
OCTOBER 18, 1961: "Many sacrifices must be made. Much penance must be done. We must be very good. If we do not do this, punishment awaits us. Already the cup is filling, and if we do not change we shall be punished."
JUNE 18, 1965: "As my message of October 18 has not been complied with and has not been made known to the world, I am advising you that this is the last one. Before, the cup was filling up. Now it is flowing over. Many cardinals, many bishops and many priests are on the road to perdition and are taking many souls with them. Less and less importance is being given to the Eucharist. You should turn the wrath of God away from yourselves by your efforts. If you ask His forgiveness with sincere hearts, He will pardon you. You are now receiving the last warnings. I love you very much and do not want your condemnation. Pray to us with sincerity and we will grant your requests. You should make more sacrifices. Think about the passion of Jesus."
The Prophecies
The relatively few messages of Garabandal contain prophesies of supernatural events that will affect the entire world. In addition, the visionaries claimed that they were given a series of frightening warnings about the future. Each of the girls stated that Mary told them about a series of four extraordinary events which would reflect God's concern for the state to which humanity had fallen. These events were reported to be:
A worldwide warning to be experienced by everyone on earth. Its purpose will be to call humanity to amend its behavior and return to God.
A great miracle that will occur in the late winter or early spring within one year after the warning.
Permanent signs that will remain for all time at a pine grove near Garabandal and other selected locations of Marian apparitions.
A terrible chastisement during which many will die. Other prophecies indicate that this chastisement will eliminate up to two-thirds of humanity. The chastisement depends upon the response of humanity to the warning and the miracle.
The Warning
Conchita has stated, "The Warning, like the Chastisement, is a fearful thing for the good as well as the wicked. It will draw the good closer to God and warn the wicked that the end of times are coming." In describing the warning, Jacinta has said, "The Warning is something that is seen in the air, everywhere in the world and is immediately transmitted into the interior of our souls. It will last a very little time, but it will seem a very long time because of its effect within us. It would be like fire. It will not burn our flesh, but we will feel it bodily and interiorly." She goes on to describe astronomical phenomena: "like two stars -- that crash and make a lot of noise, and a lot of light -- but they don't fall. It's not going to hurt us but we're going to see it and, in that moment, we're going to see our consciences." In addition to these events, Conchita has stated that she was told by the Blessed Virgin in 1962 that after the death of Pope John XXIII, "There would be two more popes after Pope Paul VI and that one of the popes would have a very short reign. After that would come the end times but not the end of the world." If Conchita has interpreted this vision of Mary correctly, then Pope John Paul II is the last of the popes before the end times begin. Conchita said that she has been given the date of the Miracle by the Blessed Virgin and will announce the date eight days before it is to occur. Since the Miracle will occur after the Warning, it is highly likely that both the Warning and Miracle will occur within the next thirty years given Conchita's present age (late forties) if this apparition is valid.
Conchita has said through her Diary, "I am the only one to whom the Blessed Virgin spoke of the miracle. She forbade me to say what it will consist of. I can't announce the date either until eight days before it is due to occur. What I can reveal is that it will coincide with an event in the Church and with the feast of a saint, martyr of the Eucharist; that it will take place at 8:30 on a Thursday evening; that it will be visible to all those who are in the village and surrounding the mountains; that the sick who are present will be cured, and the incredulous will believe. It will be the greatest miracle that Jesus will have performed for the world. There won't be the slightest doubt that it comes from God and that it is for the good of mankind."
On September 14, 1965, Conchita said, "The sign that will remain forever at the pines is something we will be able to photograph, televise, and see, but not touch. It will be evident that it is not a thing of this world but from God." At another time, concerning the great miracle she added, "It would last about 15 minutes." On August 10, 1971, while talking to a group of Americans, she offered this revealing information: "It will take place on or between the eighth and sixteenth of March, April or May. It will not happen in February or June." Eight days in advance of the miracle ,Conchita will give notice to the world about its coming. Prior to the eight-day notice, God will send a warning to the entire world to purify it for the great miracle. Therefore, the world will receive two advance notices: the warning and the eight-day notice. |
| Anonymous Coward
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The WARNING
The Warning of Garabandal Explained
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The Warning: When it will happen
Year: 2009
Month: April
Day: 10th
Day of the Week: Friday
Liturgical Calendar: Good Friday
The Warning is the same as the first secret of Medjugorje; this event is also called The Day of Repentance.
Why: To prepare the world for the first part of the tribulation, as described in the Book of Revelation (but the second part of the tribulation is in the distant future).
The Warning: What it is
It begins with an event in the sky. This event is not natural, but supernatural. This event is not the Warning itself. This event has no effect on nature or on the planet. This event is not a comet, nor an asteroid, nor any other natural event. The purpose of this event is to get everyone's attention, and to awaken anyone who is sleeping. It is very brief, even momentary. It has been said by Conchita that this event begins with the letter 'A'. I believe that the 'A' stands for Angel, because this is not a natural event, and because God often makes use of His Angels to herald His Divine Acts.
Everything will stop during the brief time needed for the Warning (minutes, not hours).
Electronics and vehicles will not function, except in cases of necessity.
People who are asleep will be awakened for it.
The Warning is entirely supernatural.
Each person will find themselves alone in their mind and heart with God.
God will touch each person's soul.
God will speak to each person's soul in a way that is fitting to the uniqueness of each individual.
God will speak to each person's conscience within the limits of their own knowledge and experiences.
People will understand their sins and the negative consequences of their sins.
Every single human person on earth without exception will experience the Warning.
Every single human person on earth will be offered grace and mercy directly from God.
Even prenatals in the womb will be touched by God. Though they have no personal sins to be brought to mind, they will be given blessings of grace to prepare them for the great difficulties of the world into which they will be born, especially the gift of God's grace to strengthen them against sin (but they will not be sinless).
For most persons, those who are old enough to understand right from wrong, the Warning will take the form of an awakening of the conscience, making that person aware of the sins in their lives and their own sinfulness in general. God will offer all sinners the gift of repentance and of conversion from sin, as well as grace and mercy more generally.
For those who are holy, and for those who have thoroughly acknowledged their sins, have been forgiven, and have done much penance, the experience will be different. For them, their sorrow will be at the suffering of Christ on the Cross for the sins of mankind, much more than the sorrow that they will have for their own sins. They will join with Christ in His loving sorrow for the sinfulness of the world.
Those who are evil will no longer be able to hide behind excuses for their sins; they will no longer be able to half-deceive themselves; they will know full well that what they are doing is evil. People often lie to themselves, telling themselves that what they are doing is right, when they know in their heart of hearts that it is wrong. But at the Warning, these lies will be exposed; there will be no place to hide from the truths of one's conscience at the time of the Warning.
Some great sinners will repent greatly. But many great sinners will continue in their evil deeds, with a much clearer realization that they have chosen evil over good. By rejecting this gift of repentance, and by deliberately choosing to continue sinning, despite a very full knowledge that what they are choosing is evil, they will commit an actual mortal sin and will become much more thoroughly evil themselves. The fallen angels will concentrate their efforts on such persons, with whom they will have greater influence than before.
Actual Mortal Sin
Be advised that anyone who rejects the gift of repentance on the Day of the Warning is necessarily committing an actual mortal sin, because the Warning carries with it a clarity of heart and mind to such an extent that only by an act of full deliberation and full knowledge can one reject God's extraordinary call to repentance from sin. The call to repent from sin on the day is a very grave matter, so deliberately and knowingly rejecting it is an actual mortal sin.
The Warning: What it is not
Be Advised: there are numerous false visionaries and other persons who are promoting false ideas about the Warning!
The Warning has its limits.
It will not reveal all knowledge about religion or about morals.
It will not make all non-Catholic Christians realize that Catholicism is the truest form of Christianity.
It will not make all non-Christians realize that Christianity is the truest form of religion.
It will not give the very young the understanding of adults.
It will not speak to each person beyond the limits of their own knowledge, understanding, and experiences.
It will not provide people with a complete understanding of wrong and right.
It will not provide people with a complete understanding of their entire life.
It will not show each person their entire life.
It will not show each person the good things that they have done in their life.
It is restrained by the limits inherent to each person's mind and heart and life.
Each person will not see their soul as God sees it.
The Warning is not the end of the world.
The Warning is not an immediate precursor to the end of the world, nor does it herald the Return of Christ.
The end of the world is not for this generation, nor for the next, nor for the next, nor until centuries afterward.
The Antichrist is not in the world today, and he will not be born for several centuries.
The Warning: Individual Reactions
All human souls will be touched by God in some manner pertaining to sin and grace.
Many people will become holier and less sinful.
Many people will repent.
Many will continue in this repentance, reforming their lives and seeking God.
Many others will quickly relapse, falling back into sin, perhaps even into worse sins.
Some will reject the Warning so thoroughly that they will become very much more sinful than ever before.
Some persons will try to ignore or forget the Warning by indulgence in worldly pleasures. God will hold this sin against them for the rest of their lives.
Some will be so afraid of having to face their own sins, mortal sins lived unrestrainedly for many years, that they will respond by taking their own lives. Suicide is not the answer, for after death, these persons will again have to face the sins of their lives and the consequences for their sins. Those who commit suicide will be severely punished either in Purgatory or in Hell.
Many people will be struck by an overwhelming fear, confused as to what happened, not knowing who to listen to for an explanation of the event. Some persons will be so fearful that they will die of fright.
The number dead from suicides and from fear will not be insignificant. It will be a very sharp increase in the number of deaths from these causes at that time.
False Repentance
Beware of persons who attempt to feign repentance outwardly, when inwardly they have completely rejected God!!!
Some persons who experience the Warning will reject this merciful offer of repentance and forgiveness. But, when they see many persons around them repentant and seeking holiness, they will pretend to do the same. Some of these false penitents will be politicians, some journalists, some celebrities, some members of the clergy and religious life, some lay persons with leadership roles, and some will be persons who might not seem to have any serious sins from which to refuse to repent. Very many mortal sins within humanity are hidden deep within the human person. So, beware of wolves in sheep's clothing!!! They will feign repentance in order to obtain or to maintain roles of leadership in society and in the Church, or for other reasons.
Group Reactions: The Church
The aftermath of the Warning will have profound effects on the Church, the world, families, and individual lives. It will change the course of the history of the human race and of the Church.
The Church will become suddenly holier, and will continue to increase in holiness. The transfiguration of Christ was a foreshadowing of this event, whereby the Church will be transfigured. But the transfiguration of the Church only begins with the Warning; it is not yet completed at this time; and so there will still be many problems in the Church. The completion of this transfiguration, at least for this generation, occurs many years later at the time of the three days of darkness.
The Church on earth is comprised of sinners; some of those sinners are very sinful and are harming the Church. The Warning will remove many sinful persons from the Church: some will die; some will reject the Church because they reject the gift of repentance offered by the Warning; some will be rejected by the faithful after the Warning because sincere repentance allows them to understand who is a true disciple of Christ, and who is not.
In the days and weeks after the Warning, very many persons will flock to the Catholic Church for guidance and for the forgiveness of sins in the Sacrament of holy Confession. Priests will be overwhelmed with the number of repentant sinners who want to confess. (Prudent Catholics will go to confession frequently in the months and weeks prior to the Warning!) Even non-Catholics will want to go to Confession. The lines for confession will stretch even out the doors of many churches. Only Catholics will know about this event in advance, and be able to explain its meaning, and be able to properly advise people as to how to be reconciled to God. Even Catholics who are not holy and not knowledgeable will be sought out by non-Catholics for whatever little guidance or knowledge they might be able to offer.
But not every problem in the Church will be solved by the Warning. The Warning will not bestow all knowledge or understanding of right and wrong, even on holy persons. Christians will still disagree about beliefs and practices. Many repentant persons will eventually slip back, some slowly, some quickly, into their old sins, or into even worse sins. And the increase in holiness among the faithful will cause some barely-practicing Catholics and some non-practicing Catholics to soon fall away from the Church. For they will not be able to keep up with the quick advancement in holiness that the Church will make, beginning at this time.
Pope Benedict XVI's Reaction
The Warning will occur during the reign of Pope Benedict XVI. This Pope is mentioned in Sacred Scripture in a hidden way. The transfiguration of Christ was a foreshadowing of the Warning. Peter said to Jesus, after His transfiguration: "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you are willing, let us make three tabernacles here, one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah." (Mt 17:4). In this way, Peter foreshadowed Pope Benedict XVI, who will respond to the Warning by suggesting that three places of worship (tabernacles) be established in Jerusalem: one for Christianity, one for Judaism, and one for Islam, that is, a Church, a Temple, and a Mosque. And that all three religions worship God together in peace, with the city of Jerusalem as an example to the world of peace between religions.
Now the Gospel of Mark comments on Peter's words: "For he did not know what he was saying. For they were overwhelmed by fear." (Mk 9:5). The Pope suggests these three tabernacles because the world will be overwhelmed by fear in response to the Warning, and because they will seek answers to this event, each in his own religion.
But the Pope's suggestion will not happen for many years. Instead there will be war. And not until after the first part of the tribulation will there be three places of worship in Jerusalem for the three religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam); and not until then will there be a yearly celebration, at the same time of year, for worshipers from all three religions to worship together in peace in the city of peace.
There are already places of worship in Jerusalem, of course. But the three places that will be built will be three very important centers of worship. The Jews will be the first ones to build it; in 2009 they will decide to build the Third Temple of Jerusalem, but it will take a number of years to build (about seven years). It will incorporate the Wailing Wall, and will necessitate the destruction of the Dome of the Rock Mosque. Next, years later, the Catholic Church will build a chief place of worship in Jerusalem, which will become the center of worship for the Church worldwide. (The center of authority in the Church will move from Rome during the first part of the tribulation, but will return to Rome in the year 2040.) This Church will most likely be built (or at least completed) soon after the first part of the tribulation is completed. Lastly, an important Mosque will be built at Jerusalem, finally replacing the Dome of the Rock Mosque, but in another location. So the building of the three places of worship in Jerusalem will be in the same order as the establishment of the three religions.
After the first part of the tribulation is completed with the three days of darkness in early 2040, then Catholic Christianity, Judaism, and Islam will be the only religions on earth. No other religion will have any significant following, other than Catholic Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.
Group Reactions: Families
Some families will be torn apart, because some family members accepted repentance and conversion, changing their lives very substantially, while other family members refused to repent or to change.
Some persons will be rejected by their peers, for being a good person among unrepentant sinners, or vise versa. Some circles of friends will fall apart because of different reactions to the Warning. Some persons who committed mortal sins together will no longer be able to stand the sight of one another, because it reminds them of their sins.
Children will generally accept the Warning and benefit from it greatly. In this way, God will prepare them for the difficult years ahead, and build a holy generation to live after the end of the first part of the tribulation. Prenatals in the womb will benefit from this experience, being given grace to assist in avoiding sin in the future (but they will not be sinless).
The Warning will be particularly difficult for those who have willingly had an abortion, or who encouraged others to have an abortion. These persons will realize the horror of their own decisions to end an innocent life. They will be inconsolable.
Group Reactions: non-Catholics
The Warning will not cause all Protestants to realize that Catholicism is the truest form of Christianity. However, many will begin to feel an attraction to the Catholic Church and a call from God to convert to Catholicism. Some will convert at this time. But generally, at this time, the repentant Protestants will follow their own denomination's teachings, and especially the teachings of the Bible, more fervently. However, the Warning is like a seed planted in fertile soil (the Protestant faithful), which will later grow to bring about the repentance and conversion of all the Protestant Churches to Catholicism (in the late 2010's), and the unification of all Christian Churches in one holy Catholic Church (in the early 2020's).
The Orthodox will not all realize that Catholicism is the truest form of Christianity, truer even than the Orthodox faith. But some will convert at this time, and the Orthodox Churches will begin to move toward later unification with the Catholic Church.
The Jews who are devout and repentant will seek to be better Jews and better worshipers of God. Jews who are repentant will tend to favor the more conservative schools of thought within Judaism. Jews who practice the faith only nominally will be strongly rebuked by God at the Warning; some will repent and begin to practice their faith; others will fall away.
The Muslims who are devout and sincere in seeking God will accept repentance and conversion, becoming holier worshipers of God. They will not generally change to Christianity as a result of the Warning. But their respect for Jesus and Mary will deepen. Muslims who are not devout, but who merely use Islam as an excuse for violence, if they do not repent with great sorrow and penance, will become very much more sinful and more prone to violence. As a result, there will be conflict between the devout moderate Muslims and the violent extremist Muslims.
Atheists and agnostics will realize that there is a God. Persons who have forgotten or stopped caring that there is a God, (because they have been immersed in the secular world) will realize the importance of worshipping God. The sin of not worshipping God is one of the main sins about which the Warning will accuse the conscience of humanity. Some persons will try to fool themselves and others by attempting to explain away what happened. Some will offer absurd explanations. But everyone will know in their hearts that in truth there is a God.
The United States President's Reaction
The U.S. President at the time of the Warning will be, for better or worse, Hillary Clinton. Now I am not going to judge her soul, or her heart, by saying whether or not she will sincerely repent in response to the Warning. But I know that very many persons in the U.S. will repent sincerely, including many who once had an abortion, or who supported abortion. A clear majority of the nation will very quickly become pro-life. President Hillary Clinton will also change her mind and become pro-life. Perhaps she becomes pro-life out of sincere repentance, or perhaps, seeing the nation suddenly become pro-life, she will change her mind out of political expediency. I do not know which reason will motivate her (perhaps some of both).
Political Changes
Most nations will become pro-life, in other words, a majority of their citizens will turn against abortion because of the Warning. If some few nations fail to achieve this advancement in morality (becoming a nation where most citizens are pro-life), then woe to those nations! They will soon be severely punished, for the tribulation is about to begin!
There will be an attempted backlash, because of the Warning,, against those who sincerely repent. Some persons in the media will attempt to ridicule or explain away this event (even though they themselves experienced it). They will even attempt to blame the Church, or to blame the devout faithful. But such a large number of persons will accept this gift of repentance that they will not succeed in this attempted persecution of the devout faithful.
Some prominent persons, and some ordinary persons, will feign repentance, and some will even feign conversion, when they see that so many persons have themselves repented. Some politicians and some celebrities and some media personalities and some religious leaders will feign repentance, when inwardly they have rejected this gift from God, turning away from good toward evil. Beware of false repentance in those days!
Politicians will change their stance on various issues related to morality, some out of true repentance and some out of political expediency, since they see that most voters are now against certain types of immorality. Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing, even in the Church. Some Church leaders, including perhaps a small number of Bishops or Cardinals, will feign repentance so as not to lose their power and their role in the Church. Some false prophets and some insincere evangelists will also feign repentance.
Just as most citizens in most nations will turn against abortion, realizing that it is a serious offense against God, so also will most citizens of most nations turn against homosexuality and various kinds of sexual immorality, realizing that these are serious offenses against God. If some few nations fail to achieve this advancement in morality (becoming a nation where most citizens are against homosexuality and sexual immorality), then woe to those nations! They will soon be severely punished, for the tribulation is about to begin!
The Upheaval
See the article on the First Secret of Medjugorje. The upheaval pertains to political and social changes in certain nations as a result of the Warning.
The Rise of Communism
See the article on Mistaken Ideas about the Secrets. Yes, there will be (and has been) a rise of communism, but it is spiritual communism, not political communism.
The World in General
The influence of the Warning on future world events is incalculable.
The Warning will bring many good people closer to God, and will bring even great sinners to repentance. It will also cause those who reject its gift of repentance to move away from God. To reject the gift of repentance on the day of the Warning is to reject God. A significant number of persons in the world will become more evil than ever before by rejecting this gift. Their will be a greater disparity between those who are holy and who seek God sincerely, and those who do whatever evil pleases them. This polarization will cause conflicts in families, in organizations, in nations, and in the world.
The Warning will also throw the world into a great fear. The vast majority of both good and bad persons will be caught unaware by this event, even though it will be announced in advance. Yes, even though its date is given in this set of articles, many persons still will be surprised and frightened by this event and by the depth of its penetration into their conscience and soul. Many persons will be terrified because their own sins have been laid bare. This confusion will be evident worldwide. Wicked persons, in particular will be very afraid, knowing that their sins have been rejected by God, knowing that they have chosen sin over God. But the faithful who knew about this in advance will have peace and true sorrow for sin.
This worldwide fear will calm somewhat with the second secret of Medjugorje, but since that secret is only given to those who accepted the earlier event of the first secret, that is, of the Warning, the unrepentant will be more confused and more afraid than ever at this next event. See the article on the second secret of Medjugorje.
False Prophets
Many false prophets will continue their false preaching, even after the Warning. There are quite a few false prophets today who are preaching about the Warning, but with numerous distortions and falsehoods. After the Warning, many devout persons will more clearly discern the false prophets from the true ones. But many of the false prophets, especially the worst ones, will attempt to continue their false preaching. They will say that the Warning is a fulfillment of their prophecy (even though they stole the idea from Garabandal and then perverted it). They will try to use the Warning to continue to promote their false ideas.
Some of the errors that they will promote at this time are as follows:
Some false prophets will claim that now is a time of peace and holiness for the world, because repentance has resulted in the sufferings that God had planned being delayed or taken away. But this is not true. Soon there will be war and great afflictions, one after another, after another, for many years. I say again: the false prophets will tell you, at the time of the Warning (i.e. the Day of Repentance) and at the time of the Day of Consolation, that a time for peace has now arrived or will soon arrive. This claim is false; instead there will be war upon war, and affliction upon affliction, for many years.
Some false prophets already claim that now is the end of the world, and that the Antichrist is in the world, ready to work his evil. But this is not true. The Antichrist is not in the world today; his time is not until the distant future. And the so-called end of the world is very many years, many centuries, in the future also. So, when the Warning occurs, they will try to use that event to claim that the time has now arrived for all their various erroneous prophecies to begin. They will still continue to fool some of the weak and misguided in the world. But then, as the true events of the secrets, and of the first part of the tribulation in general, unfold before everyone's eyes, it will become clearer and clearer that their prophecies, and their messages, and their apparitions, and their signs and wonders are false.
Some false prophets will claim that the Warning is the fulfillment of their own prophecies, as if it proved that they are true prophets, instead of false ones. But if these false prophets mentioned the Warning previously, it was only because they stole the idea from Garabandal and other true private revelations. They never gave a single message that contained any specific information, other than what was already known, or what could be guessed or assumed, or what was vague and uninformative, or outright erroneous.
Beware of false prophets, who might try to steal information from these articles about the future, and then claim the same ideas as messages from Heaven, either telling the same information (as if they had now predicted it), or pretending to make inane and useless corrections, or meaningless amplifications, of this information.
Here is my page with a list of true and false private revelations:
[link to www.catholicplanet.com]
Peace to You
Beware of false prophets, but listen to true ones.
"Do not be afraid, little flock; for it has pleased your Father to give you the kingdom." (Lk 12:32).
Be ever more peaceful in your souls and, by trusting in God, do not let these events disturb you.
by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
published April 9th, 2007
May God give you grace and peace during the difficult years ahead |
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