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December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

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12/14/2007 2:58 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

MJ, please don't let them get to you. Your research is very much respected by a lot of people (with eyes to see). There are those who are paid to attack anything and anyone who has a piece of the puzzle that they don't want the general masses to know about.

-

And one more thing to share on the years, etc. Remember that Ethiopia just celebrated their millinium this past September, right? They are only on year 2000. They were not bothered with when all the world rulers decided to go fiddling with the calendars. Perhaps we might even have 12 more good years left. If anyone knows about how to use the planetary alignment predictor (or even how to get to it) might want to have a look-see at December of 2019.

[link to www.ethiopianmillennium2000.com]
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12/14/2007 3:01 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

I too wish for something to happen, but if it doesn't, all these failed Dec 23 2007 threads will be the ultimate deterrent to future doom threads.

It has never been a Doom thread.


Hmmmm wasn't it you that said " The blood is on your hands Phoenix if you lead people astray"? I'm confused now.

No, there is no Blood on your hands.
My concern was that if anyone listened to people saying it was a hoax, some people in coastal areas might not take precautions.
If you read my posts, it has never been about doom, it has been about change and a new beginning.
The material has not just been pulled out of my Ass.
Multiple people have posted far too much corraborating evidence for anone to have that effect now.
I now realize that this info will never ring true to certain people, you cannot change that, for some , the decision has already been made.
I hope you do make necesary precautions though, as the weather and earth probably will get a bit Fresh.
 Quoting: MJ 251730


Well see, This is where you and I got off on the wrong foot. I'm not going to bother finding quotes at this point. When I called BS on the doom I was immediately attacked. You have called me slanderous remarks and said I was a murderer by implication at one point.

You provoked me to call you on the Dec 12 prediction, and I did. You have back peddled really fast in the new "I never said it was a doom date" Now you claim this is a spiritual journey. We could have agreed on this point from the get go.

I'm really curious though. Why the change of heart? You went from, all of you bastards are going to drown..more or less, to this is a spiritual journey on a individual level. You are gambling on this alignment and people's emotions, but that's been your goal all along right? A few more day's till the piper is paid.

As I stated earlier I have kept track of every thread. I will dissect them on the 23rd.


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MJ
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12/14/2007 3:01 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Google " Millenium 1995"
and discern.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339058
12/14/2007 3:04 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

December 14, 2007 19:58:50 UT - Mission Day: 4396
DOY: 348

soho... anything here?
MJ
User ID: 251730
12/14/2007 3:06 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

I too wish for something to happen, but if it doesn't, all these failed Dec 23 2007 threads will be the ultimate deterrent to future doom threads.

It has never been a Doom thread.


Hmmmm wasn't it you that said " The blood is on your hands Phoenix if you lead people astray"? I'm confused now.

No, there is no Blood on your hands.
My concern was that if anyone listened to people saying it was a hoax, some people in coastal areas might not take precautions.
If you read my posts, it has never been about doom, it has been about change and a new beginning.
The material has not just been pulled out of my Ass.
Multiple people have posted far too much corraborating evidence for anone to have that effect now.
I now realize that this info will never ring true to certain people, you cannot change that, for some , the decision has already been made.
I hope you do make necesary precautions though, as the weather and earth probably will get a bit Fresh.


Well see, This is where you and I got off on the wrong foot. I'm not going to bother finding quotes at this point. When I called BS on the doom I was immediately attacked. You have called me slanderous remarks and said I was a murderer by implication at one point.

You provoked me to call you on the Dec 12 prediction, and I did. You have back peddled really fast in the new "I never said it was a doom date" Now you claim this is a spiritual journey. We could have agreed on this point from the get go.

I'm really curious though. Why the change of heart? YOu went from all of you bastards are going to drown..more or less, to this is a spiritual journey on a individual level. You are gambling on this alignment and people's emotions, but that's been your goal all along right? A few more day's till the piper is paid.

As I stated earlier I have kept track of every thread. I will dissect them on the 23rd.
 Quoting: Phoenix 2012


Find me one post were i say anything like that?
I have NEVER posted that people will be drowned, or anything of that Ilk. Never called anyone a Bastard, and only pulled you up on your own arrogance and slander.
Your the back peddlar, read the thread, i have never made 1 death or doom prediction.
If you had maybe read MY material first time round, you would not of shown me the disdain of what you THOUGHT i had been posting.
This is no game of right or wrong on this message board. This message is about December 23rd, and it is Fact.
MJ
User ID: 251730
12/14/2007 3:10 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

I missed that.
"Gambling on this allignment and peoples emotions"

Phoenix, if that is what you think, you are more spiteful and pathetic than i originally thought.
The evidence in this thread is much bigger than me. The Evidence is overwhelming,and not even from me.
You have finally proven yourself not worth my response. And you will not recieve one more.
Phoenix 2012 SubscriberModerator
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12/14/2007 3:12 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

I too wish for something to happen, but if it doesn't, all these failed Dec 23 2007 threads will be the ultimate deterrent to future doom threads.

It has never been a Doom thread.


Hmmmm wasn't it you that said " The blood is on your hands Phoenix if you lead people astray"? I'm confused now.

No, there is no Blood on your hands.
My concern was that if anyone listened to people saying it was a hoax, some people in coastal areas might not take precautions.
If you read my posts, it has never been about doom, it has been about change and a new beginning.
The material has not just been pulled out of my Ass.
Multiple people have posted far too much corraborating evidence for anone to have that effect now.
I now realize that this info will never ring true to certain people, you cannot change that, for some , the decision has already been made.
I hope you do make necesary precautions though, as the weather and earth probably will get a bit Fresh.


Well see, This is where you and I got off on the wrong foot. I'm not going to bother finding quotes at this point. When I called BS on the doom I was immediately attacked. You have called me slanderous remarks and said I was a murderer by implication at one point.

You provoked me to call you on the Dec 12 prediction, and I did. You have back peddled really fast in the new "I never said it was a doom date" Now you claim this is a spiritual journey. We could have agreed on this point from the get go.

I'm really curious though. Why the change of heart? YOu went from all of you bastards are going to drown..more or less, to this is a spiritual journey on a individual level. You are gambling on this alignment and people's emotions, but that's been your goal all along right? A few more day's till the piper is paid.

As I stated earlier I have kept track of every thread. I will dissect them on the 23rd.



Find me one post were i say anything like that?
I have NEVER posted that people will be drowned, or anything of that Ilk. Never called anyone a Bastard, and only pulled you up on your own arrogance and slander.
Your the back peddlar, read the thread, i have never made 1 death or doom prediction.
If you had maybe read MY material first time round, you would not of shown me the disdain of what you THOUGHT i had been posting.
This is no game of right or wrong on this message board. This message is about December 23rd, and it is Fact.
 Quoting: MJ 251730


You just said you wanted people to move away from shore lines..lol How do you think people read that? Oh yes, this IS a game of right and wrong, and after the 23rd you will see just how. I have maintained my precision from the start.
We will remember it as the great Dec 23rd hoax. Nine more days! Thank god!


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Anonymous Coward
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12/14/2007 3:12 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

I too thank you for your hard work and research. Being a pessimest though I still have a bad feeling that nothing will change on Dec 23. That being said I truly hope you are right MJ.
MJ
User ID: 251730
12/14/2007 3:12 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

December 14, 2007 19:58:50 UT - Mission Day: 4396
DOY: 348

soho... anything here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 339058

Have you seen the recent pics of the Sun.
I posted over 2 weeks ago that i expected these changes. i posted that at the time we did not have a single sunspot visible for weeks.
Otto Site
User ID: 162364
12/14/2007 3:14 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Check out today's SOHO...major activity now and more comin' round the bend !!!
Anonymous Coward
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12/14/2007 3:14 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

I too thank you for your hard work and research. Being a pessimest though I still have a bad feeling that nothing will change on Dec 23. That being said I truly hope you are right MJ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 313468

This is right Mate, and i appreciate your words.
MJ
User ID: 251730
12/14/2007 3:18 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Check out today's SOHO...major activity now and more comin' round the bend !!!
 Quoting: Otto Site 162364

Im watching, friend. Was me and you talking about this a week or so down the line in this thread.
If even a small part of the Electrical universe theory is correct, (which i believe it is, just not fully understood properly) The coming together of these planets will have a huge effect on the Sun.
This is talked about more in this thread, though they should really be together.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335684
12/14/2007 3:25 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335684
12/14/2007 3:30 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

kens latest diamond solar flare

he thinks it is much bigger

maybe comes around on 23
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 251730
12/14/2007 3:47 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]

kens latest diamond solar flare

he thinks it is much bigger

maybe comes around on 23
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 335684

Wow, astonishing!!
Did you know there was just about to be a conjunction between Mars and Comet Holmes too?
Imagine what energies will be unleashed.
It is possible Holmes could explode again like it has in the past. But this time could be a lot more significant.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339802
12/14/2007 3:48 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Did you know that the study of the number 23 is of such special significance there's even a name for it? It's called vigintitresology. Aleister Crowley was fascinated by this number.

[link to www.simoniff.com]

Vigintitresology: The Web of 23


Vigintitresology (the study of the number 23) appears, at first, quite humorous. But it does have the tendency to cluster seemingly unrelated facts into stragely beautiful patterns. 23 is one of the principles which weaves the web of Maya... The Human mind is a machine which creates meaning by structuring the meaningless "stuff" of which reality consists. For some reason, yet undiscovered, one of the rules built into this structuring machine is the Formula of 23; the possibility is here entertained that only now are we becoming aware of this enigmatic 23.

23 is a radomizing agent. As the spirit of Irony and the soul of Paradox, the Principle 23 is the ordering principle which creates reality. The key to understanding the meaning of 23 is in the I-Ching; the 23rd Hexagram is Po / Splitting apart. 23 presides over disintegration, dissolution, revolution, disasters, or, in sum, any radical change in situation. It is neither good nor bad, but always unexpected. 23 is the opposite of what appears to be inevitable. It is, therefore, the opposite to the tragic, perhaps more akin to the comic. — It is the essence of chance as change.

23 signals the chaotic state between two stable states. As such, it fits into the category of 'inbetweenness'. It is therefore one of those things which is Not. 23 is one from the demonic hosts of Non-being about to invade Being. The 93 Current will split apart the unconciously created world we inhabit. 23 is not identical with 93, but an emanation from it. 23 is the hearld of the end which will be a new beginning.

Why Crowley's life can be so neatly aligned with 23 should now be obvious. His life points to the end whcih contains a new beginning. 23 stands at the point between dissolution and coming together. (Hence, it is a Magico-Alchemical Formula, as will be demonstrated below.) As an initiation, it is a rite of Passage; through initiation one passes through the state of duality (2) to a state of integration on a higher plane (3).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 162364
12/14/2007 4:22 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304329
12/14/2007 4:27 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Posted this in the other thread, thought i would post it here aswell, if only for a general bump.



Stargate in SouthPark. Notice the "23" above the Stargate. The trilogy of these episodes includes the Pentagon nuking "imagination land", Butters being "the one" and recreating reality after it is nuked (ascension to 4D), and a whole host of other mystical connections..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16622
12/14/2007 4:32 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Now if the calendar can indeed be off by as many as 5 years (2007 = 2012), would not it stand to reason that perhaps it may be off a certain number of days as well? Just thinking outside of the box, but when one takes, oh say for instance the date of 12/12/12 and factors in the 11 missing days (Sept 3 thru Sept 13) from the 1752 British calendar correction, would that not put the real 12/12/12 (or the 444 Jupiter event MJ theorized) at 12/23/12? Maybe my thinking is off, can anybody with a clearer head help me out a little here with this theory?

But seriously, between the British Monarchy and the RCC (and we all know who those 'people' really are) screwing with the date and time there is no telling what the true actual date it really is?

Re: The 1752 Calendar Act:

[link to webexhibits.org]

and

[link to www.genealogytoday.com]
 Quoting: Hard Water


AMAZING!
Otto Site
User ID: 162364
12/14/2007 4:33 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

^ That's the CLINCHER. Now there can be NO DOUBT THIS IS IT !!!!! (ROTFL)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 327456
12/14/2007 5:47 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Remember the Skull & Bones guys set their watches ahead 5 minutes...
oeroe2911
User ID: 320769
12/14/2007 7:03 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

great 12 min. filmclip with clear and uplifting
message!!

[link to video.google.com]
tjikkelindebikkel

"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool... shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is willing... teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep... awaken him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise... follow him."
oeroe2911
User ID: 320769
12/14/2007 7:16 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

SIGNS??
[link to www.divulgence.net]
tjikkelindebikkel

"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool... shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is willing... teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep... awaken him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise... follow him."
oeroe2911
User ID: 320769
12/14/2007 7:27 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

A lot of people ask me if the world is going to end in 2012,” he said, “and I’ve come up with the best way to address that. The short answer is yes. The long answer is no.”

Writing in the forward to Jenkins’s “Maya Cosmogenesis 2012,” Terrence McKenna proffers that “we, by choice or design, actually live in the end time anticipated by the ancient Maya shaman-prophets. Their bones and their civilization have long since gone into the Gaian womb that claims all the children of time. Indeed, their cities were ghostly necropoleis by the time the Spanish conquerors first gazed upon them, 500 years ago. Yet it was our time that fascinated the Maya, and it was toward our time that they cast their ecstatic gaze, though it lay more than two millennia in the future at the time the first long-count dates were recorded.”

It is a splendid, human-size dream, that an ancient people revered for unearthly wisdom could climb aboard a calendar ship and redeem us from our troubled world and the confines of our vexing natures. Dec. 21, 2012, is already here — long before the date arrives — and perhaps it has always been. End dates are not the stuff of fantasy, after all; each and every one of us has a terminal appointment inscribed in our calendars. And the end might just arrive sooner. Perhaps that is why we need to imagine a supernatural force with one eye on a ticking clock, waiting to make everything new again.

It is the Maya who bring us apocalypse this time, and when the next one comes — well, we’ll just have to wait and see if the world is still here.
(JM.JENKINS)
tjikkelindebikkel

"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool... shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is willing... teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep... awaken him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise... follow him."
MJ
User ID: 162427
12/14/2007 7:41 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

MJ, please don't let them get to you. Your research is very much respected by a lot of people (with eyes to see). There are those who are paid to attack anything and anyone who has a piece of the puzzle that they don't want the general masses to know about.

-

And one more thing to share on the years, etc. Remember that Ethiopia just celebrated their millinium this past September, right? They are only on year 2000. They were not bothered with when all the world rulers decided to go fiddling with the calendars. Perhaps we might even have 12 more good years left. If anyone knows about how to use the planetary alignment predictor (or even how to get to it) might want to have a look-see at December of 2019.

[link to www.ethiopianmillennium2000.com]
 Quoting: Hard Water

Thanks a Lot hard water, i have just read through this and i find it very interesting.
Dont worry about me pal, im oldskool..
Once again, thanks for your valuable insight, excellent to have such a diverse input.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339959
12/14/2007 8:08 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

Google " Millenium 1995"
and discern.
 Quoting: MJ 251730


Couldn't find anything though..
MJ
User ID: 162427
12/14/2007 8:19 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

More info on the Remarkable Planetary/Galactic series of events that is happening on the 23rd.
Wiki have updated on the Config. Any doubts about the GC involvement is banished. The whole Solar system is in Allignment with the GC through Pluto, which itself is in an even grander conjunction:-

2007

A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.

Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007

Solar System on Dec 22, 2007. What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

2007 - A grand conjunction in which the solar system will align with the galactic center
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Oh btw, with what was mentioned about Jupiter above, Jupiter will of course be in conjunction with the Sun as well.

JUPITER is too close to the Sun to be seen this month. It is at conjunction with the Sun on the 23rd, and will become visible in the morning sky next month.
[link to www.aaa.org]

December 23 Jupiter is in conjunction with the Sun, entering the morning sky.
Full Moon at 8:16 PM.
DECEMBER 23 THE FULL MOON PASSES LESS THAN ¾° NORTH OF MARS THIS EVENING.


MARS AT OPPOSITION


Traveling faster on its inner orbit around the Sun, Earth passes Mars every 25 or 26 months, an event called opposition since Mars and the Sun are then in opposite directions as seen from Earth (when the Sun sets Mars rises, and vice versa). At this time Mars is almost at its closest point to Earth, called perigee. Because of Mars' elliptical orbit, opposition and perigee don't occur at exactly the same time. This year, Mars is closest to Earth on December 18th, and at opposition on Christmas Eve. (The evening before opposition, December 23rd, the full Moon will pass less than ¾° above Mars.

The period before and after an opposition of Mars is special because at this time the Red Planet is much closer than usual (see "Oppositions of Mars"). This means Mars is larger and brighter. Telescopes can make out features on the Martian surface at this time.

8 Days and counting, though i believe within several days, it will be widely accepted and known that we are in for an event that the Mayans, Ancient Scripture Writers and pyramid builders were studying and thinking about so long ago.
mankind has waited Aeons for this time.....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339959
12/14/2007 8:32 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 272605
12/14/2007 8:46 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

And there's still time yet to read some about 5a
The White Star Of The East
[link to home.iae.nl]
Kat Mama
User ID: 340231
12/14/2007 8:54 PM
Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of DestinyQuote

If even a small part of the Electrical universe theory is correct, (which i believe it is, just not fully understood properly) The coming together of these planets will have a huge effect on the Sun.
This is talked about more in this thread, though they should really be together.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: MJ 251730


I totally believe in the electric universe "theory". It only makes sense. Our bodies are electric, so I, too have been concerned with what might happen during this planetary alignment.

In fact, something weird has started to happen with me and I'm wondering if it's due to the solar line up starting - and if anyone else is having this phenomena - I've begun to blow out electrical stuff! Once in ahwile, a light bulb will burst on me when I turn the switch on but 2 weeks ago it was two light bulbs in one day. It was odd enough but I still didn't think much of it until the next day, I blew out a lamp also when turning it on! Completely trashed it! And just a few hours ago, I flipped on a light switch and blew a fuse! The electricity in my house is only 5 years old, so it's not that and the blow-outs were on different electrical lines. The real kicker is - when I walk by street lamps - they go out!

Is this happening to anyone else? And if so - has it increased lately?
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