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December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

 
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Im really hoping 2007 is 2012..

Im beginning too wonder just how much longer things can go on before someone does something stupid, breaking the ice, and igniting chaos..

Although to be fair, nutjobs like Alex Jones have been telling us we would be at war with Iran by now.. war with Iran by the summer... then autumn... now its inevitable (apparently)... just where is this fucking war then?

Thanks for listening to my rant hf
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They are keeping the fear rolling whilst betraying people by taking their minds of what really is going to happen.
They know 2012 is now, and what a job they did of hiding the biggest secret of them all.
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Thinking again about "solar pause" dynamics, It may be best to be in a high alt open field when the shock-wave hits. And pray your not facing the sun... I doubt few man made or even natural structures would survive intact...

So when day turns to smoldering night, gather your survival equip. warn those who'll listen, get to very high ground and be near a strong stucture just in case...

It may be best to be sheltered when re-ignition flashes, and in the open field when the shock-wave arrives a few hours later...islands and mountains removed from their places and all that....gonna be a ride!!!
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Omega point - December 23rd 2007

Omega point is a term invented by French Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin to describe the ultimate maximum level of complexity-consciousness to which the universe seems to be heading. The universe evolves towards more complex states, while at the same time more conscious states. For Teilhard, this is the true theory of evolution, and he calls it the Law of Complexity/Consciousness. Matter complexifies throughout time, whilst rising to more conscious states. For Teilhard, this is only possible if a higher form of consciousness is "drawing" the universe to itself. For it is impossible that lower conscious states can give rise to higher conscious states. Thus Teilhard postulates "Omega Point" as the critical point of consciousness which draws the universe towards higher states of consciousness, as observed in the Law of Complexity/Consciousness. The human-being (the most complex, and so most conscious piece of matter) is so conscious that it is 'reflective.' Which means that the human being can reflect on him or herself. Or, the human being is self-conscious. Or as Teilhard is fond of saying, "The human-being is consciousness squared."

As Teilhard envisaged it, the Law of Complexity/Consciousness continues to rise through the socialization of mankind. Mankind is converging upon itself on the earth, creating more complex forms of communication and information exchange, all attributing to a rise in the collective consciousness of the human race. Teilhard envisages a critical point of 'reflection', in which the collective consciousness of mankind (like that of the individual human-being) will become conscious of itself, attaining its term at Omega Point, that divine center of consciousness which was always drawing the universe to itself.
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The Day of Destiny?
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The Day of Destiny?
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Day of DOOOOOOM!!
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Again taking into account 2007 is 2012, this information is also credible.
We have seen what date DC depicts as Omega point, we have looked at what Omega point could mean.
The truth is becoming clearer.

2012, Doomsday & The Omega Point
Posted by Jonathan_McGregor_Bethel on 2007/4/10 0:54:39 (1328 reads)
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This is an article I wrote for JJ Haper's new book, "Science of the Soul"

by Jonathan McGregor Bethel

It must be stated at the outset of this article that the expectation in 2012 of any singular event could very well lead to complete disappointment. None of us know for certain what will happen in the years to come, especially the specific date of 12-21-2012, as the future is yet to occur. I try to approach this great mystery of 2012 with an open yet discriminating mind, open to possible scenarios yet discriminating and requiring evidence. That being said, it is obvious that right now is a time of radical transformation, and society is subconsciously gearing up for a “Shift of the Ages,” a moment when the Zeitgeist, the spirit of our time, shifts to a higher pattern. Many are coming forward to proclaim "The End of the World," and they point to the Maya themselves as stating the end is coming. But the fact remains that the Maya encoded the ending of one 13baktun calendar cycle and a new beginning, what they called “Creation Day.” This is not the “End of the World” being solicited in the main stream media, a guarantee that doom, tumultuous changes, and a turmoil ridden future lies ahead; they are using the tried and true application of fear to make money, and it is very reasonable that this fear is in place, for events could be very dire, yet we have to approach this moment in history with the poise and watchfulness of the spiritual warrior.

Although mankind has traversed the evolutionary gap between the savage rain forest and the modern civilized city, it now sits in a very alarming situation; it now faces a bifurcation point in the evolutionary path it has trod thus far. This unavoidable fork in the road will lead us either down the path of destruction and decimation, or we will be impelled down the evolutionary channels toward enlightenment and liberation, freeing ourselves from the entropic grip of materiality and the thralldom of our everyday world. This is a very novel predicament for humanity, one it has never seen before, a moment a planet brings forth only once in its’ lifetime. This razor's edge that we are teetering on is fast becoming a slippery slope, and the global operational systems are careening out of control. On the one hand, we have reached a monumental moment in which all indicators point to the fact that we are approaching a quantum leap in our evolutionary trek, a rapturous instant in which our species' evolution shifts to a higher, unimaginable level of functionality; however, on the other hand, the global situation looks very grim, and certain actualities could create a situation where our existential being is subjected to harsh realities, realities that are the consequence of what we started long ago in history. This situation is building up more and more pressure and is working its' way toward a breaking point. Because of humanity's selfish and disharmonious behavior, we have created a situation that looks fairly dire and dreadful for our species, yet the contradictory is also true; never before has the human race been so perfectly poised so as to initiate a whole series of evolutionary steps that could precede a Utopian civilization.


Mankind has never found himself at a crossroads of such magnitude, a bifurcation point that will change the course of history. Nevertheless, that is no excuse for a botched job in the grave matter at hand; it is crucial to our survival that we get it right! That sounds like a paramount amount of pressure and will require an impeccable discipline; indeed, this is intense pressure, and this rite of passage requires utilizing a higher more disciplined order for quelling the more primitive behaviors that will only guarantee our demise. An immense amount of cooperation and compassion is required to get us passed the inhospitable situation before us. It is vital that we quickly get a clue and start doing what we know we need to do, yesterday and not tomorrow, before our tenuous grip on reality quickly slips away, and we tumble erroneously down the path of failed attempts. No, this will not do! If we really want to make it through this perilous passageway in the hallway of history, then we need to quickly wake up, come to our senses, and merge our scientific world view and knowhow with a true ecumenical spiritual paradigm founded upon ethics, thereby placing well meaning attention and focus on the problems at hand. A merging of these two worlds could help create the impetus for us to form a true global community where the “Good of the All” is sought out for the “Good of the All” by all our individual talents.

Modern man throughout the twentieth century was coming to terms with his theological and scientific paradigms, and in the last decade of that century s/he saw an intensification of the integration of these two worlds; the true philosopher's stone, the stone of the wise, was condensing from the merging of these two paradigmatic systems. This new paradigm of thought was synthesized in a dialectical process where the thesis and antithesis were merged, the worlds of theology and science, and it is now informing the morphogenetic fields that rule social behavior all over our planet. These fields order our behavior through the process of morphic resonance, whereby our thoughts and emotions are in sync with the planetary mind, and our mind then follows suit. These global morphogenetic fields of humanity have been called many names: the collective unconscious, the genetic archives, the akashic records, and the phylogenetic unconscious. At any rate, this morphogenetic field that humanity resonates with is a sphere of thought surrounding the planet, and the synergistic tendencies of the information couplings within those fields are gearing up for and catalyzing a transformational shift to a whole new order of being. In the notions of the French priest and paleontologist, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, the biosphere, nature, will give rise to and exude the noosphere, a global layer of thought, the informational synergy of which will actualize the Omega Point into being. This will usher in a new paradigm, a transcendence for all of humanity. It is interesting to note that Teilhard came to his realizations long before the global network of the Internet; therefore, many philosophers consider the internet to be the hardwiring of the noosphere.

The unrelenting questions of what will happen consistently assail the mind. Will we make it through the turmoil to see ourselves basking in the sunlight of enlightenment? Or will we destroy ourselves in some apparent need for defense or through retaliation? Will the Biosphere continue supporting our species when it is being decimated daily? Will we experience some major geological changes as a consequence of our relationship with the sun? Will our technology birth the next level of our evolution? Will the Gaian Mind, which appears to be the source of crop circles, bring us a further revelation of our place in the cosmos? Can a multitude of these events occur? This intense inquisitiveness will not be abated within me, and sadly, I'm afraid that the answers that have presented themselves are both appealing and disturbing, creating further vexing enigmas. So, what we are facing is manifold and many-sided; one singular event does not take the whole happening into consideration. Does this time of devastation and/or enlightenment have anything to do with 2012 as many have foretold?

What we are facing is both good and bad, in my opinion; one model of our future does not contain the entirety of that happenstance. It is multifaceted and diverse, but our mammalian brain seeks to create black and white scenarios out of the mysteries before us, seeking to simplify the unknown and fearful into nice little models of what we are moving into. But there is no way that what we are facing could be all black or all white; it is indeed both. The concrescence of novelty, the eschaton, will be an infinitely novel situation and contain both the good and the bad! As the universe becomes more complex and ramified, as more novelty accrues, then we can expect the intensity of those novel forms and events to increase; the novelty of both the black and the white will intensify in its’ influence upon our lives. Therefore, it is understandable that the most horrid will occur alongside of the most divine in our shared, global future.

So, what kind of things could we be facing in 2012 or beyond? What are the tenable possibilities on our global horizon? Let's first look at the negative occurrences facing our global civilization, and then we will discuss the positive effects which also appear to be breaking through into our society. These doom ridden scenarios are things that, if they were to occur, would affect our global future and life as we know it in a radical way. These possibilities are things we definitely need to be considering as we move ahead.

Humanity is in a very precarious situation; never before have so many mounting crisis points been converging together. I'm no doomsayer, but if you remove yourself from the group mind with its aversion to the facts at hand, and you take a good look at what is about to transpire, then you can't help but be white-knuckled and fearful of the future. But this fear is not at all what we need, if reality is truly affected by our minds as scientific studies are beginning to bear out. The following situations “Could” transpire in the years to decades ahead; they are not necessarily slated to occur in 2012!

The increased complexity and convoluted nature of our global civilization has made the threat of a pandemic a much more conceivable situation. A virus could be transferred to many areas of the world through our transportation grid in a very short period of time, and an all out pandemic could be actualized in a matter of weeks. When asked about a near future, foreseeable pandemic, doctors say it's a matter of “when” not “if” one breaks out. In the last 30 years we saw the introduction of many new biological threats: AIDS, SARS, West Nile, and now the Avian Flu, and these are threats that we must take seriously. When will this speculative disaster occur? It is uncertain, but scientists are very concerned about the possibility of a major unstoppable pandemic in the near future.

A pandemic is just one possibility on the shelf of global, future threats. In addition, we have the Geo-Political environment, a motley crew of a makeup with each component striving for dominance on the world stage. It is one thing to agree to disagree with the other parties in the global arena; however, we now have radical terrorists, self proclaimed servants of God, who believe it is their God given duty to kill all those that will not convert to their way of thinking. It is hard to deal with these people in a rational manner, as their behavior elicits the very primitive instinct of seeking their utter destruction. In addition, we now have the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and they are now in the hands of some very fanatical and tyrannical leaders. It is easy to foresee and imagine that if the terrorists ignited a nuclear bomb in one of our cities due to their ideological insanity, then the civilized world could very easily retaliate, thereby sparking a nuclear tit-for-tat of all the countries involved. This is a very real possibility and something that MUST be avoided at all costs. Does that mean we should not retaliate if we were ever to be attacked with a nuclear bomb? Well, I am a warrior, and anyone trying to kill me, my family, my friends, or any of the citizens of my country should be very aware that there are many of us who will stand up and seek to destroy them utterly. But that being said, we need to be exceedingly careful not to spark a nuclear catastrophe, if that were to ever happen. Therefore, our retaliatory nature could pose a big problem as we move ahead, as we now live in a world where radical mentalities and terrorism exist.

Our global society is also facing major economic collapse as we move forward into subsequent periods of time. Our economic markets are so reliant on what occurs globally now, and the countries of the world have created such a deficit that some financial specialists say what we are facing is insurmountable; we are operating on borrowed time, and a huge spiral into economic collapse looks like an extremely conceivable scenario.

If those realistic threats weren't bad enough, the biosphere is being destroyed in so many aspects that it is barely possible to imagine. Researchers believe that the biosphere may become completely uninhabitable in just a couple centuries. The facts of man's destruction of the habitat that brought him forth are truly appalling and ghastly. We are decimating the rain forest by miles daily, the main source of the oxygen we breathe. Climate is changing as both the jet stream in the atmosphere and the gulf stream in the Atlantic are shifting. Our oceans are dying from pollution and over fishing, and many species are being wiped into extinction. Is this insanity? What are we doing to ourselves? The planet was never intended to support life for 6.5 billion people, and that population is only increasing daily. The facts of the matter make one wince when looking at all the details, creating a nauseating feeling in the pit of the stomach. The melting of the ice caps is occurring from a multitude of sources that are causing Global Warming. It is not just our fuel use causing global warming; it also has to do with natural cycles that revolve around the earth-sun connection. The melted ice will cause the sea levels to rise, obliterating the coastline and inundating us with water. This biosphere issue is definitely not something that will cause a global catastrophe in 2012, but it is an indication of where we find ourselves and the nature of our shared predicament. The operative word is "Shared," and we need to realize that all of us on the planet are in this boat together, and it has now begun to traverse the rapids and dangerous currents ahead.

Additionally, we have the sun-earth connection to be concerned about. The Sun’s Coronal magnetic flux has increased 100% in the last century. Global Warming is partly caused by man and is also caused by the earth’s relationship with the sun, and scientists say the sun has steadily become more active in the past several hundred years. It must be understood that when a Solar Flare or Coronal Mass Ejection occurs a wave of energy moves out in all directions, and when it impinges with a planet’s magnetic field, the field contorts in reaction. This contortion shifts the Jet Stream creating climate change, and it also puts stress on the system of plate tectonics, causing an increased number of earthquakes and volcanoes. The last sunspot cycle ended with the two largest flares on record and the next major cycle is scheduled for 2012.

Now that we have discussed some of the sobering bad news about our future, and because I like to be the optimist even in the most drastic and horrid of situations, I think it is essential to relay the whole picture. Yes, things look very dire, but they also look most promising. Strides in science, medicine, government and technology are making major advances in ridding our species of the undesired effects of bad health, famine, poverty, or lack of any name. So, like I said, what we are moving into is both wonderful and horrid. It is a double-edged sword!

Science is making great progress, and a G.U.T., A Grand Unified Theory or a T.O.E., a Theory Of Everything, is within the grasp of humanity, giving us a true understanding of Space-Time and harnessing that understanding for benevolent and beneficial technologies, which we will use to find solutions to our present predicaments. A quantum leap in our evolution is apparently directly in front of us, if you consider the exponential explosion of technology. A technological singularity is going to occur; it cannot be avoided. Only one of the previously mentioned catastrophes could remove us from the course with the Technological Singularity. This Singularity will bring us technologies that will give us immense longevity and possible immortality! That was a fairly welcome surprise as we entered a new millennium, discovering we were facing this event. The exponential explosion of technology will remove many of the problems we have dealt with for thousands of years. For instance, nanotechnology will be used to control cholesterol and plaque within our arteries, thereby alleviating one of the major causes of death. The A.I. mind will know all our problems, and it will use intelligence a million times greater than man to find solutions and implement them in the moment.

Researchers are learning how much our mind is inextricably linked to the physical reality surrounding us, and with the advent of nanotechnology we will be able to create materially whatever we are visualizing mentally. Our science and spirituality are also no longer exclusive to each other, and the age old conflicts between the facts of science and our theological perspectives are dissolving and fading away. Our scientific investigations are showing us that the quantum vacuum, the zero-point-field, contains the informational blueprint for the way our reality forms itself. It is the reservoir for every occurrence that has ever happened in previous universes, universes that are iterations of the one multiverse; The zero-point-field is a non-local vacuum containing zero matter or energy but immense information that our universe uses as a guide to shape itself. This zero-point-field can be considered the mind of God, and now even most atheistic scientists realize that there is a higher dimensional information template from which our universe is formed. Also, our world’s religions are beginning to loosen the constricting belt of literalism, and they are seeing the truths of both science and other faiths; a convergence between disparities is taking place, and integration is occurring on many levels.

So, we live in a time full of radical changes of both a qualitatively good and bad nature. The ancient seers knew that this exact period in time represented a period of catastrophic changes preceding a golden age. Most cultural traditions have some intimation of the times we are living in, whether it is Hindu, Hopi, Mayan, or many, many others, and they are all in basic agreement that a great purging, a cataclysmic time of change, will precede a golden age of enlightenment. The Mayans encoded 12-21-2012 into their calendrical system, and they pointed to that day for some reason. Hundreds of years later in the 1970s a hippie botanist, Terence McKenna, had a vision under the influence of Shamanic Power Plants, and he saw how to distill a timewave from the Ken Wa sequence of the I-Ching. This Timewave mapped the ingression of novelty into the universe, an organizing principle of ever increasing complexity upon which all of our reality is ordered. At any rate, he saw on the timewave that this nature of novelty hits a moment of infinite novelty, what is called the concrescence of novelty, at the same exact time that the Mayan Calendar cycle ends, December 21, 2012!

So, this date has given itself over to the minds of a culture of people over a thousand years ago and then to a hippie botanist in the 1970s, a very strange synchronicity indeed! Then along comes Ervin Laszlo in 2006 stipulating that Chaos and Complexity Theory has shown how a huge bifurcation point in humanity’s evolutionary trek occurs in late 2012. At the fork in the road, we either go the route of self destruction or the high road of enlightenment and liberation. Noting that Terence derived his timewave from the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and also noting the congruency of those 64 Hexagrams with the 64 codons of DNA, the 64 bit structure of computer code, and the central 64 squares of a Tzolkin grid of the Mayan Calendar, then it can be surmised that a universal organizing principle is being perceived.

No one knows what will happen on December 21, 2012. Will it be Doomsday or the Omega Point, or both, or neither? One thing is for certain; now is a time of radical change, and both problems and innovations are creating a novel situation for a planet of 6.5 billion people. The biosphere is more decimated than it ever has been. The Sun more is active than in recent time and may cause some major geological changes. Our Technology has moved deep into exponential growth and is about to birth a singularity. Whatever happens, I am sure it will be a ride we will never forget!


Jonathan McGregor Bethel

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It will be interesting to see what the movements/events of the leaders of different powerful countries will be leading up to Christmas time, they would definitely be in the know.

If it is true that a major transformation event of some sort is to occur around Christmas 2007, then we would also expect a major power play to secure much needed natural power resources to occur amongst the worlds leading powers in the next 3 odd weeks.

such as:
"Russia threatens to deploy more nuclear weapons against NATO, pulls out of treaty"

"President Putin accused Nato yesterday of threatening Russia’s security and ordered the military to place the country’s strategic nuclear arsenal on a higher state of alert.

“In violation of previous agreements, certain member countries of the Nato alliance are increasing their resources next to our borders,” Mr Putin told generals in a meeting broadcast on state television. “Russia cannot remain indifferent to this obvious muscle-flexing.”

Mr Putin, whose rhetoric has become more strident as relations with the West have deteriorated, went on: “One of the most important tasks remains raising the combat readiness of the strategic nuclear forces. They should be ready to deliver a quick and adequate reply to any aggressor.”

He issued his stark message as Russia confirmed that it would pull out of a landmark arms limitation treaty on December 12. The Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) treaty was fundamental to ending the Cold War.

Mr Putin hit out at Nato less than two weeks before Russians vote in parliamentary elections. While there is a clear element of sabre-rattling for domestic purposes, the Kremlin has also been alarmed by what it regards as a Nato plot to contain Russia.

Mr Putin is determined to increase pressure on Nato in an attempt to divide European members over a United States plan to place a missile defence shield in Poland and the Czech Republic. He has already threatened to station nuclear missiles in the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, which is surrounded by EU states, if Nato ignores Moscow’s objections."
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Putin pulls out of treaty limiting arms in Europe
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bumpThis may be the best thread ever here. I vote a pin for the whole month of December. bump

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GADZOOKS!

THIS IS "NATIONAL TREASURE 2" unfolding right in front of our eyes!

oooooooooooooohhhhhh a mystery in real time......

please excuse the sarcasm.......

I think this is just a plug for the movie

Which I will be first in line to see....

the first one was just plain ol' fun.....

NOT that I doubt this stuff...but does it really mean doom?

guess I should read through page 4.....only got through 1
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The Day of Destiny?

Day of DOOOOOOM!!
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no nuffing is gonna happen the day will come and go just like any other.
It's time for us to fight back against these socialist scumbags

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I posted this last year. Let see what response I get now.
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Is Our Sun Getting Ready To Give Birth?

I was sitting here reading about this 23/12 Grand Conjunction that is supposed to happen in Dec. of 2007. All of a sudden a thought came to me. It is possible that every so often our sun could give birth to another planet? Could some or all of the planets line up with enough pull to actually suck a chunk out? Or, could it just pop out like a baby? I know it sounds kooky at first but hear me out.

What if at some point in the past, Mars was the 3rd rock from the sun. Life was thriving and flourishing all over the planet. Maybe even as technologically advanced as we are today. But the PTB of Mars knew that something very bad was going to happen someday.

For the ancient scriptures had foretold of this event. Throughout all of their existence on Mars, the PTB were planning for their foretold fate. They colonized Earth and began preparing underground habitats. Preparing the way for the Elite ones that would soon arrive and insure the survival of the human race. They knew that when the sun gave birth, Mars would be forced further out into space and into a new orbit. The new colonized Earth would be forced into the approximate previous orbit of it now dying sibling. The Earth and its new inhabitants are now beginning their re-born phase. The next cycle begins.

My theory is that the Sun will give birth to a planet. Which will then force our Earth further into the depths of space. The Elites will have long vanished. Shuttled off to their new world (Venus) while the rest of us are left to die. You hardly ever hear about exploration of Venus or even Mercury. We are always looking out. Classic deception, have us look this way while all along they are going that way.

Please, share your thoughts on this idea. How do you think the sun would act after suffering such trauma? Could it go dark? Does anybody know how often this 23/12 configuration occurs? What do you think?
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Anyone hear about the horrible beating Miss Ann was involved in? She lost 3 pints of blood but, when police investigated, all evidence of the crime has disappeared! Poor girl!
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Anyone hear about the horrible beating Miss Ann was involved in? She lost 3 pints of blood but, when police investigated, all evidence of the crime has disappeared! Poor girl!
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What is all the above bull shit about ? Who is this miss ann you posted about ?

FFS, leave peoples threads alone with your bullshit.
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Only 21 days before it all ends. Thank God. I don't think I can put up with the sheeple in 2008. Apparently now that won't be a problem........
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Map of the only safe (high enough) US areas: [link to www.baproducts.com]
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Only 21 days before it all ends. Thank God. I don't think I can put up with the sheeple in 2008. Apparently now that won't be a problem........
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It will be a new beginning my friend Otto...
for some already have had the call.
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Only 21 days before it all ends. Thank God. I don't think I can put up with the sheeple in 2008. Apparently now that won't be a problem........
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Lol! You are weaker than I thought! SO hateful and spiteful this morning. What's the matter is your dream cult falling apart?
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I've been having a lot of trouble sleeping lately, then after two days I'll sleep almost 24 hours. It is almost as if time is speeding up and my body is acclimating itself.

Anyone else? This whole thing has me quite nervous about my exact survival plan too, so that could be it. In light of all of this flooding stuff, I am thinking of heading to set up a camp on high ground. In Alaska on Christmas, that isn't a whole lot of fun.

The family is pissed I am not coming home for Christmas too. I didn't really know what to tell them but to stock up on supplies. How are you guys dealing with all of this?
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Time is speeding up, but just wait til next week: [link to www.youtube.com]
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I just moved SOHO to the top of my favorites list and am already packed for Peru. Out
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I've been having a lot of trouble sleeping lately, then after two days I'll sleep almost 24 hours. It is almost as if time is speeding up and my body is acclimating itself.

Anyone else? This whole thing has me quite nervous about my exact survival plan too, so that could be it. In light of all of this flooding stuff, I am thinking of heading to set up a camp on high ground. In Alaska on Christmas, that isn't a whole lot of fun.

The family is pissed I am not coming home for Christmas too. I didn't really know what to tell them but to stock up on supplies. How are you guys dealing with all of this?
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I have hardly slept all night but don't feel tired. I have minimal to no appetite but am not losing weight, time is warping, yes I have all of this too and my birthday is 12-22! AS far as moving I am just going to stay put. If it all comes to an end I do not mind moving on to another existence. I would however like to step right into my lightbody and I will pray for that. I am one of those who sees 11:11 and all kinds of other numbers. I was up at 3.33 and 4.44 etc and it is like that most noghts. I think there is a big plan in store for all of us and I think we need to trust our instincts but not fight too much. If you feel that you need to go to Alaska then go with many blessings but don't make the decision from a position of fear.
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I too have been waking at 3:33 nearly every mornung...what's with that?
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I'm in Alaska already... I'll surely be bugging out for the holidays. Maybe I'll sleep more in the dark of a cold ice hut.
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I too have been waking at 3:33 nearly every mornung...what's with that?
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These synchronisities will become more and more blatant in the coming weeks. Things are about to get extremely strange.
My crown is already charging, i know the time is here.
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I've been having a lot of trouble sleeping lately, then after two days I'll sleep almost 24 hours. It is almost as if time is speeding up and my body is acclimating itself.

Anyone else? This whole thing has me quite nervous about my exact survival plan too, so that could be it. In light of all of this flooding stuff, I am thinking of heading to set up a camp on high ground. In Alaska on Christmas, that isn't a whole lot of fun.

The family is pissed I am not coming home for Christmas too. I didn't really know what to tell them but to stock up on supplies. How are you guys dealing with all of this?

I have hardly slept all night but don't feel tired. I have minimal to no appetite but am not losing weight, time is warping, yes I have all of this too and my birthday is 12-22! AS far as moving I am just going to stay put. If it all comes to an end I do not mind moving on to another existence. I would however like to step right into my lightbody and I will pray for that. I am one of those who sees 11:11 and all kinds of other numbers. I was up at 3.33 and 4.44 etc and it is like that most noghts. I think there is a big plan in store for all of us and I think we need to trust our instincts but not fight too much. If you feel that you need to go to Alaska then go with many blessings but don't make the decision from a position of fear.
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I also am now having trouble sleeping.

I've been seeing the numbers (333, 444, 11:11, 12:12) for a couple years now.

My favorite is 12:12. I usually see it twice or more times per day.

The other day there was a commercial on tv for a store called Marshalls. There was a digital clock shown on the commercial, and guess what time was displayed on it? Yup, 12:12.

There are other things I could tell you, but suffice to say that many things appear to be converging now.

Get right with God and be good to each other is what I have been telling people.
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The needing of little sleep, no weight loss, but less caloric intake, exercise time not available but no loss of muscle tone (yes, even at my age!) and other things that can only be described as "odd" are manifesting themselves among a huge percentage of the people I know. Some of them are my WooWoo pals, but most of these individuals reporting these strange anomalies are NOT even readers of GLP and the like.

A friend of mine - who's a well known author of fiction - last week turned 63. He called me last night from NYC and told me about the lack of sleep, lack of concurrent tiredness, and bursts of creativity that he described as simply amazing. He'll write more than in one night than he would normally produce in a month, lately!

Young people (my daughters' peer group) are reporting they are sensing time speeding up! Moving forward faster and faster is how one young man of about 21 put it the other night. He said (although he'll have his BS in Psychology in January) that he wonders what the point of the degree was/is? He feels ignorant in terms of the world and where it is going and nothing in school has prepared him with even the most minimal tools for figuring out what is happening - much less how to deal with it in a personal or global sense???

From my own observations - this is a time of great financial and personal stress for me. I've just lost a fortune by anyone's standards and am wondering about the retirement I'd looked forward to. It may not be possible from a financial standpoint. And although I'll make some flippant remark about have another facelift, lipo the fat off the belly and flanks one more time, and go out and face the world again and continue working for another decade or two - deep in my heart I seem to know that a decade is not a possibility and two of them are preposterous. We don't have that much time left - collectively. Individually, I feel as though I'm going to see this through to it's natural outcome whether that is the 2nd coming of Christ, or the near destruction of the planet by our own idiocy or both. I have this erie feeling I'm going to witness it somehow. Now of course the question is "what is this "it" I feel as though I'm going to see?" And I don't know.

The sense of moving toward something momentous is undeniable and I hear it repeated across groups large and small, old and young, and rich and poor. Most people I know who have any self-awareness today are feeling this "we're coming to a major fork in the road" symptom or syndrome.

The funny thing is there is an amazing lack of fear. No one is really afraid of it. Elders I know who cannot survive a major upheaval in their lives now speak of being at peace about their own death as it nears. Fear has been replaced wth a sense of excitement like a kid getting ready for a trip and counting down he days before the journey begins...

So whether it's a month away (less now) or 2012 and five years away, there is an amazing lack of fear all the way around. We know many will not survive. But still there is a deeper knowledge that the people who do die will be "okay" and they are not dead for long.

An interesting theory was proposed by a friend who's paranoia exceeds my own by a fact of thousands...

He postulated that: Whatever is about to happen - whether 2007 or 2012 or both - out governments have concealed this knowledge and have made sure they've provided for their own survival at our expense with the tax dollars we've paid in. The current melt-down in RE is a way of taking gold or precious substances out of the country of moving them back into the US. Their eventual destination is with TBTB in their escape from the upcoming events. However, the seriousness of the near events (whatever they may be) are now so grave and so manifest in todays world that they cannot be hidden any longer. In point of fact I give you the atmosphere forming on the moon, and the polar ice caps on Mars that are suddenly not RED any longer but rather are showing up a blue-ish green over vast areas on our sister planet. We know that two or three of the outer planets have recently undergone a pole shift and it looks like we're next. The galaxy we're moving into (Milky Way) is a much more energetic place and those energies are going to change everything and everyone on the planet earth as their effects are fully felt.

My friend claims that the plan is to leave us here to die while TBTB ride it out in underground bunkers or in ships on the way to another planet using tech and money we provided them. (Generous of us, I would say!) However their plans do not work as hoped for. They're stuck here too, with the rest of us.

At the same time the alignments and energy shifts take place, either science and spirituality (probably both) merge further and/or mankind is able to may synaptic connections he's never made before. These "connections" result in both Time Travel and virtual immortality. Yes. The keys to time itself are in our hands at long last.

The government claims this is the result of their research and it is not. It's just that we can now see and understand that which was here all along. The shift in our understanding is caused by the increased energy levels all around and through us. The "miraculous" discoveries move forward at a lightening pace and a new escape route becomes possible. One that involves going back or forward into time. One of the benefits of this new galactic connection is not only a huge IQ boost on those already bright, but an ability to deal with and understand the concepts that heretofore have been secret from us. Words and symbols can be drawn on various types of stone substances that, when placed in or near an energy field, begin to act like giant and ultra-powerful processor that executes the code contained in this newly discovered language. But it's not programming in the conventional sense. The technology was found and reversed engineered from ships and crash site and the coding is so advanced and so complex that only the latest generations of super computers are now able to keep track of what is a virtually unlimited alphabet of symbols and words that are now self-executing and once written also become self-maintaining. The power source for this "processor" is in fact the earth's magnetic fields itself - and once that tap into it is made, there is limitless power to allow manifestation of whatever this "language" is coding for at the moment - where it may be gravity control at one moment, it could well be a bottle of milk in the next! Yes. From design to existence in one step. The "language" is the language of creation or something nearly akin to it. It may be that we have the keys to life, and to time, placed into our hands far before we have the emotional and intellectual capacity to deal with either.

My paranoid friend claims that the 'government" will announce these new and incredible technologies as breakthroughs of their doing. And people will be encouraged to migrate outward into time itself in order to reduce the population and allow the creation of a virtual Garden of Eden here on earth itself. Of course man and our governments not having anyone's best interests at heart other than their own - will screw this up monumentally and will bring the world to the brink of destruction as was foretold by everyone from "mother Shipton" to Nostradamus, to Revelation itself. I suspect that it is this self-created disaster that does in fact bring the world to the final battle at some point in the near future. Where, when? Your guess is as valid as mine (probably more-so.)

It's going to be a heck of an interesting few years if we make it through them...

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