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December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

 
THE DOOM

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Awwww doom... here, have some love hf
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Thank you..I needed it.

Its been a very harrowing month.

And its only going to get worse.

hf
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Welcome to MY world.

Ive already "LIVED" the future...only the Deja vu I get is far stronger and goes for longer periods.

WHY do you think I am SO certain we are so DOOOOMED??
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But - what if there will be a SPLIT in consciousness? This is what I think is going to happen since it's talked about so often that there's going to be an ascension - When the galactic line up happens, there will be a gravitational and electro-magnetic bump. Those who's vibrations match the 4th dimension will ascend to that new reality, while those who's vibrations don't, will be left behind to go thru the earth cleansing that is necessary.

That scenario certainly fits all the biblical judgment day prophecies - and it could also be why TPTB are keeping silent about what's really going on "out there" and trying to keep us focused on doom, keeping wars going, etc. They hope to keep us vibrationally held back with them in order to continue the status quo once the cleansing (which I guess they think they'll escape from) is over.
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Wasn't a similiar thing supposed to have happened forty five years ago in 1962?
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If the Sun goes dark for 3 days - there wont be a full moon.

Don't think anything is gonna happen - it's just too unlikely that a planet alignment will have enough polarity or gravitational force to do anything. At least we don't have to wait long to prove this one.
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... also be prepared for unseasonably strong winds in the coming month as earth - mars and comet holmes begin their electrical alignment and are in full alignment on the 22nd of december with the new moon coming december 9th and the new moon passing on the 11th ... with all of these conditions we will likely see continual high winds over the next month ...

[link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

According to the plasma/electrical theory (Jim McCanney), objects in space do have a strong effect on each other...
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The biblically and prophetically foretold "three days of darkness" are going to be harrowing in more ways than we can imagine I suspect.

There have been various warnings to keep your doors shut, your blinds pulled and do not go out there nor let anyone in. If this happens, I wonder how much warning we will have? Will the evening come as normal and then just no morning light show up? Will our phones and computer comm go down, too? I'd guess it would. But during this three days, it is said in ancient writings that there are going to be spirits unleashed on the earth. I'd guess these are the fallen ones that have been limited or imprisoned here and they're going to have a final romp/run through the world.

My only child is 300 miles away in Arizona (I'm in LA) and I want to be sure she's is with me or near me when and if this happens. Without disrupting her world and yanking her out of college and insisting she be here - what the hell do I do to make sure she is here?

OR do I need to go buy a house in Arizona fast?

I do NOT want her going through this alone without the spiritual guidance of someone older and perhaps a bit wiser. My "parental" instincts are deeply instinctively involved in this. The "father bear" syndrome and I need to protect my cub (dna) and the feeling of wanting/needing to do that is nearly overwhelming! I knew from the day I saw her being lifted out of her mother's body during her c-section delivery (and she was promptly handed to me) and at that instant something truly miraculous happened in terms of bonding that I cannot understand - but can only be amazed at and in awe of til this very day twenty years later. I knew in that instant I would be willing to die if necessary to protect that dear little life. Today I have the same feeling. I will willingly give up my life to protect her if need be! Wow! That is so "heavy" coming from me. Mr. Non-Violence, Mr. Life-Long Pacifist. And here I am talking about cheerfully and unthinkingly ripping the throat out of any being who tried to harm her? (Not that at 57 - I could do that easily, but I know the adrenalin would be sufficient to manage it should it be required!)

Where are these nearly insane levels of parental protectiveness coming from? And why now? Is it because of the very real spiritual and physical danger that is near? Any ideas on this one or am I over due to go back on some serious tranq's??? (grin)

Any other guys (who are fathers) out there having this overwhelming surge of protectiveness toward your children or family that seems to be increasingly strong and coming up without obvious provocation? Say in the last 2-3 months?
Life really is a banquet - and truly - most poor sucker are starving! Enjoy the ride baby.
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Just sent my kids bottles of Potassium Iodate. They may be the only ones in their area able to survive nuclear fallout as it protects the thyroid.
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Hey related to the new Atlantis theme and the December window is the Space Shuttle Atlantis blasting off on the 6th.
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If the Sun goes dark for 3 days - there wont be a full moon.

Don't think anything is gonna happen - it's just too unlikely that a planet alignment will have enough polarity or gravitational force to do anything. At least we don't have to wait long to prove this one.


... also be prepared for unseasonably strong winds in the coming month as earth - mars and comet holmes begin their electrical alignment and are in full alignment on the 22nd of december with the new moon coming december 9th and the new moon passing on the 11th ... with all of these conditions we will likely see continual high winds over the next month ...

[link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

According to the plasma/electrical theory (Jim McCanney), objects in space do have a strong effect on each other...
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Talk about winds, must be blowing 80mph. with gusts up to 100. Many trees down around my house in Wasilla, Alaska. Very spooky after reading all of this.
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If the Sun goes dark for 3 days - there wont be a full moon.

Don't think anything is gonna happen - it's just too unlikely that a planet alignment will have enough polarity or gravitational force to do anything. At least we don't have to wait long to prove this one.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258359


You are right, this has been calculated a billion trillion times on supercomputers.

Nothing big enough can be seen to cause such anomalies.

I truly doubt the Sun would ever go out in a flash and turn back on. If this happened, the chances of it being exactly the same temp when it re-ignited would be improbable. This is not conducive to the purpose of evolving life forms or celestial bodies. Everything tried to evolve.
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Here is another big issue. I have been studying 2012 for many years now, one of the main poits about 2012 is the great galactic cross, talked about by the mayans.

he Mayans of Central America had a highly developed understanding of the cycles of the sun, moon and Venus, illustrated on their famous
calendar. It is common knowledge that the Mayan calendar ends on the 21st December 2012, but why is this so? The Mayans worshipped the sun as the
‘first lord’ and like many ancient cultures, held ceremonies at the winter solstice, which marked the beginning of their new year and the return
of the light. At the 2012 winter solstice (21st December in the Northern Hemisphere), the sun will rise through the centre of a gap in the milky way,
known to the Mayans as the sacred tree. The sacred tree was both the door to the underworld and the birth canal of the cosmic mother. At dawn on 21st
December 2012, the milky way galaxy, as seen from Central America, will lie across the horizon, so at sunrise the sun (first lord) will rise from the
underworld, pass through this birth canal and open the cosmic sky portal. This event only occurs once every 26,000 years, and the Mayans considered it
so momentous that December 2012 marked the end of human time, as they knew it and the birth of a new age. This 26,000-year period is known to Western
astrologers as the great year and is divided into 12 roughly 2000-year periods known as the age of Aries, age of Pisces, age of Aquarius, etc. As the
earth turns on its axis, it wobbles slightly, causing a 1º change every 72 years in the direction to which the North Pole points. The great year is
the time it takes for the North Pole to complete an entire circle – approximately 26,000 years. We are currently moving from the age of Pisces to
the age of Aquarius.

At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of
the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual
traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth,
cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration.

[link to 72.14.253.104]

i have been all the way through the NASA simulations for the whole of 2012, not just december. Guess what?
There is not a cross!! there is a minor conjunction with Venus similar to in 2004.

The galactic Cross is on 22nd/23rd December 2007(depending on your time zone).
Seriously guys, this is it...
Whatever year this is, it is THIS year.
I hope people can see the truth.
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When the GREAT CROSS happens. The Sun will be at the exact centre of the UNIVERSE!!
X marks the spot...

The Milky Way as the Path to the Otherworld
Dr. Ed Barnhart
MAYA
The Maya have occupied Guatemala, Belize, and parts of Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador for almost 3000 years. For the Maya, both ancient and modern, the Milky Way plays a central role in a re-enactment of creation that is cyclically displayed in the night sky. Primarily, it is associated with the World Tree that reaches from Earth into the heavens. The great false Sun, Seven-Macaw, sat in this tree in the third creation. On the dates August 13 and February 5, dates especially associated with creation, the night sky goes through a cycle from dusk to dawn that recounts the story of the transition from the third creation into the present one. During those evenings, when the Milky Way runs along a North-South Axis it is the World Tree. A constellation identified as the great bird, Seven-Macaw, is positioned falling out of the top of the Tree in north. As it tilts towards the horizon, the Milky Way becomes the Crocodile Tree. When it reaches the east-west axis it switches into the canoe carrying the Maize God to the Place of creation (Freidel et al. 1993:93-99).
While oriented on the north-south direction, the Milky Way also forms a cross with the elliptical path of the Sun. It is called the K'an Cross and correlates to a well-known symbol in Classic Maya iconography and writing (Freidel et al. 1993:94). Crosses are especially visible at the ruins of Palenque. Palenque's Cross Group was named for its abundance of the symbols. The cross is also displayed on Palenque's most recognizable scene, the sarcophagus lid on the tomb of Pakal. Brundage (1981) published a drawing of the lid omitting Pakal and leaving only the cross (Figure 5). The book Maya Cosmos suggests that this image shows Pakal falling down the Milky Way to the same path once taken by the Maize God and his brother towards Xibalba. One enters the road in the south, at the base of the tree when it is helping to form the cross in the sky (Freidel et al. 1993:351). The Maya Milky Way is the path to the Otherworld. The cross in the sky formed by the Milky Way and the ecliptic stretches out in all four directions. The place where they meet is the center of the universe. From the creation myth, the Popol Vuh, we know that the three hearthstones were set at this center. The first act was the setting of the stones, followed by the raising of the sky and the establishment of the four corners and sides. The Milky Way and the ecliptic form the four partitions and a triangular constellation identified by Dennis Tedlock forms the three hearthstones (1985:261). The responsible deities left the story of creation in the sky for all Maya to see and remember.
[link to www.mayaexploration.org]
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sometimes when "wolf" is cried out, there is actually a wolf.

Whether or not the sheep heed the call is based on a majority rule. Unfortunately the majority are mentally deficient, so we end up with a scenario in which the sheep don't feel threatened. The few that do though, are given a chance to carry on even though it may be difficult. Choose your steps wisely in the coming days, for they may construct your destiny.
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If you order Stray's awesome, most-comprehensive 2012 book today you may be able to see how most every prophecy from all religions/beliefs points to this December event just in time to know what's happening is the real deal: [link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk]
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Wasn't a similiar thing supposed to have happened forty five years ago in 1962?
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I don't know, do you have any links to back it up?
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Time for the daily bump
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Wasn't a similiar thing supposed to have happened forty five years ago in 1962?


I don't know, do you have any links to back it up?
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The celestial event that happens on the 23rs december most certainly did not happen in 1962 and has not happened for many 1000s of years. It is a unique special event.
Comet holmes will eclipse with the moon. The Moon will perfect eclipse with Mars. The solar system will be a perfect Galactic Cross.
The Moon will be Blood red.
Venus will have 12 planets at her feet ala revelations.
The Sun will be on the cross and be at the absolute centre of the universe.
Sound familiar?
Thought not... i have even checked the simulator and there was absolutely nothing even close.
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Wasn't a similiar thing supposed to have happened forty five years ago in 1962?


I don't know, do you have any links to back it up?

The celestial event that happens on the 23rs december most certainly did not happen in 1962 and has not happened for many 1000s of years. It is a unique special event.
Comet holmes will eclipse with the moon. The Moon will perfect eclipse with Mars. The solar system will be a perfect Galactic Cross.
The Moon will be Blood red.
Venus will have 12 planets at her feet ala revelations.
The Sun will be on the cross and be at the absolute centre of the universe.
Sound familiar?
Thought not... i have even checked the simulator and there was absolutely nothing even close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 334938


Agree with you, but just a small correction.

Venus will have 12 planets ABOVE her (the "Crown" of 12 stars spoken of in Revelation).

The moon will be at her feet.

IMO, ALL of these prophecies tie in, the Book of Revelation, Mayan, Hopi (Blue Star Kachina), Nostradamus, Mother Shipton, etc.

Isn't it incredible..we'll have the planets lining up with the sun in a cross formation; then we'll have the cross of the ecliptic when it all lines up with the Milky Way.
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When the GREAT CROSS happens. The Sun will be at the exact centre of the UNIVERSE!!
X marks the spot...

The Milky Way as the Path to the Otherworld
While oriented on the north-south direction, the Milky Way also forms a cross with the elliptical path of the Sun. It is called the K'an Cross and correlates to a well-known symbol in Classic Maya iconography and writing (Freidel et al. 1993:94). Crosses are especially visible at the ruins of Palenque. Palenque's Cross Group was named for its abundance of the symbols. The cross is also displayed on Palenque's most recognizable scene, the sarcophagus lid on the tomb of Pakal. Brundage (1981) published a drawing of the lid omitting Pakal and leaving only the cross (Figure
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 334938


The Sacred Tree...
The Sacred "T"....
Tau Cross

Is "T" the name of God? Was it the mark of Cain (for his protection). Was it the Thau (mark a mark, mark a Tau) from Ezekiel 9:4 who had a mark put on the foreheads of people in Jerusalem who cried out against the abominations of the day. Then, there is the seal on God's people in the Book of Revelation.

The link below is more than interesting, imo.

[link to www.redicecreations.com]


"It is interesting to note that when Moses entered the Sinai desert, he found the Midianite tribe (also called the Kenites) wearing the T-shape on their foreheads. This sign, which represented their god of storms (bringing water) and war (thunder), later became known as the “Yahweh Mark.”
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What 12 planets? Last time I checked there were only 9 (8 if you don't count Pluto)
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What 12 planets? Last time I checked there were only 9 (8 if you don't count Pluto)
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Keep counting Pluto.

The ancients considered the moon and sun to be planets. Although in this I wouldn't count the moon as it will be under Venus at the time.

So, what are the 'other' ones...?

Is anything moving toward/into our solar system at present..

All kinds of possibilities.
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What 12 planets? Last time I checked there were only 9 (8 if you don't count Pluto)
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Who said it is a crown of 12 planets ? Prophecy in Revelation 12 speaks of 12 STARS crowning the head of the woman. This crown is CORONA BOREALIS. On the morning of December 23rd, VENUS, in LIBRA, will be clothed with the sunlight. Above her, the constellation Corona Borealis; under her feet : the MOON and Mars in GEMINI. Near her, the constellation SERPENS awaits to devour her infant.
Simplicity is the key to Heaven...more than ever.

Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 18:3)
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Seriously I don't think this years (2007) is THE year. Did any of you guys notice that we did not have any major hurricanes/tornado, etc this fall?

Yes we have strange temperature sometime but nothing significant different than the last years. I would even say that we had a good year and more "normal" this year.

So if we were to experience something as big as this, I can not believe that we would already been able to see it's effect on our environment, temperature and everything else!

2012 or 2112 is more realistic!
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Seriously I don't think this years (2007) is THE year. Did any of you guys notice that we did not have any major hurricanes/tornado, etc this fall?

Yes we have strange temperature sometime but nothing significant different than the last years. I would even say that we had a good year and more "normal" this year.

So if we were to experience something as big as this, I can not believe that we would already been able to see it's effect on our environment, temperature and everything else!

2012 or 2112 is more realistic!
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Everyone is focused on 2012. Even the elite.

But it will come like a "thief in the night".
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The Sacred Tree...
The Sacred "T"....
Tau Cross

Is "T" the name of God?
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You know, i always wanted too know what the upside down "T" you sometimes see on Freemasons clothing/that half an oven apron thing, ment..

Maybe thats what it means? Would make sense really.. and the "G" being for God, or, Geometry (sacred)..

Another piece of the puzzle fits into place hf
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In addition to being conjunct with Pluto and precisely on the Galactic center, the Sun, on Dec 23rd, will cross the Omega Nebula (M17)...

Again, the omega point of the solar calendar symbolized by the Capitol fountain is expressed in the sky.

[link to www.seds.org]
Simplicity is the key to Heaven...more than ever.

Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 18:3)
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Seriously I don't think this years (2007) is THE year. Did any of you guys notice that we did not have any major hurricanes/tornado, etc this fall?

Yes we have strange temperature sometime but nothing significant different than the last years. I would even say that we had a good year and more "normal" this year.

So if we were to experience something as big as this, I can not believe that we would already been able to see it's effect on our environment, temperature and everything else!

2012 or 2112 is more realistic!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10802


I guess you didn't notice the huge floods in Mexico and England this year...

China had big floods.

Plenty of tornadoes in the US.

Does a Katrina have to happen every year to get your attention?
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When Dec. 22 and Dec. 23 and Dec. 24 and Dec. 25 and Dec. 26 come and go and all that happens is that celebrators of Christmas go to church and open presents, I will stop worrying about 2007 AND 2012 ...
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The Sacred Tree...
The Sacred "T"....
Tau Cross

Is "T" the name of God?


You know, i always wanted too know what the upside down "T" you sometimes see on Freemasons clothing/that half an oven apron thing, ment..

Maybe thats what it means? Would make sense really.. and the "G" being for God, or, Geometry (sacred)..

Another piece of the puzzle fits into place hf
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I did not know the Freemasons had an 'upside down' T on their clothing. I have seen pictures of them with a Triple Tau design. You can google Triple Tau and Freemasonry.

I've done research into the Trilaterals (et's) and their logo is the upside down "T".

Think about it..if it 'is' the name of God, and someone wears it UPSIDE DOWN, that would pretty much make them adversarial to God.

The tau is very interesting. It is the 22nd (and last) letter of the Hebrew alphabet. There were 22 chapters in the Book of Revelation. You can also google Tau and the Seal of God. Very interesting information.

I doubt I would trust anyone who wore it "upside down".

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