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December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

 
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Has happened before.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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An influx of light energy will be poured upon us. Some will channel it well, becoming a conduit of this energy, for others it will be difficult to assimilate and will have a strong affect on their nervous systems.

There will be a larger divide between those who are awake/awakening and those who continue to sleep or continue to choose a life devoid of this energy of love.

2007 is NOT 2012, it is the beginning of our understanding of what the new millenia brings, which will begin its' dawn in 2012.

I agree with the post about setting time forward 5 minutes. Try it. You'll find events become more synchronistic and you will be more in tune with the flow of life.

I will be in a circle meditation the night of the 23rd absorbing as much of this energy as I can handle. I believe the outcome will be subtle at first but will pick up speed as the we become enveloped in the fullness of it.

Look for splitting up of folks who may quickly grow apart, look for wisdom in the words of children for they will feel the energy in its fullest, look for movement in political circles in an attempt to hold onto power, look for an upset in the ecomony as we learn to see the illusive and destructive power it has over us, look for more evil on television and in media than ever before as they attempt to keep us distracted from welcoming the incoming love, you will find members of the animal kingdom speaking to us if you listen, and will see signs in the skies.

We came to play during this time so be in the moment and observe the joys, for they will be there hiding behind the negativity some will be obsessing about.
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Has happened before.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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But not in the SAME way, and your link proves our point.
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Aughhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Such Crap! Crap Crap Crap!
Sorry. I just suffered a grand mal Crap Attack!
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Has happened before.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


But not in the SAME way, and your link proves our point.
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Exactly ! Planetary positions and symbols are at the core of the matter. This Grand conjunction is unique because it unifies everything.
Simplicity is the key to Heaven...more than ever.

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2007 is NOT 2012, it is the beginning of our understanding of what the new millenia brings, which will begin its' dawn in 2012.
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Ok, but WHY. Everyone who has been saying 2007 is NOT 2012, has yet to provide any evidence to back up that assertion. On the other hand, those who state 2007 is 2012 are able to show several key pieces of evidence to back up the idea..
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2007 is NOT 2012, it is the beginning of our understanding of what the new millenia brings, which will begin its' dawn in 2012.

Ok, but WHY. Everyone who has been saying 2007 is NOT 2012, has yet to provide any evidence to back up that assertion. On the other hand, those who state 2007 is 2012 are able to show several key pieces of evidence to back up the idea..
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Generally the people making the extraordinary claims are the ones needing to provide evidence, not the other way around.
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2007 is NOT 2012, it is the beginning of our understanding of what the new millenia brings, which will begin its' dawn in 2012.

Ok, but WHY. Everyone who has been saying 2007 is NOT 2012, has yet to provide any evidence to back up that assertion. On the other hand, those who state 2007 is 2012 are able to show several key pieces of evidence to back up the idea..


Generally the people making the extraordinary claims are the ones needing to provide evidence, not the other way around.
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If you had read the entire thread you would've stumble on this link...
[link to www.asa3.org]

It explains and proves that the point of origin of the Gregorian calendar is in fact 5 BC.
Simplicity is the key to Heaven...more than ever.

Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 18:3)
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120 mph winds off Oregon today.....seas to 40 ft. Didn't the same thing just happen to Ireland/UK a few days ago.... Kinda fulfills the "wind and seas roaring" prophesy.
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2007 is NOT 2012, it is the beginning of our understanding of what the new millenia brings, which will begin its' dawn in 2012.

Ok, but WHY. Everyone who has been saying 2007 is NOT 2012, has yet to provide any evidence to back up that assertion. On the other hand, those who state 2007 is 2012 are able to show several key pieces of evidence to back up the idea..


Generally the people making the extraordinary claims are the ones needing to provide evidence, not the other way around.


If you had read the entire thread you would've stumble on this link...
[link to www.asa3.org]

It explains and proves that the point of origin of the Gregorian calendar is in fact 5 BC.
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You have been an asset in this thread Starseeder, posting good accurate information. Many will not accept it at all, we are doing our bit in maybe budging some undeciders. The crux is though that many will scorn and disbelieve even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
Do not waste energies on such, just complimenting the information by more revelations as the day draws near.
thanks for your posts
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120 mph winds off Oregon today.....seas to 40 ft. Didn't the same thing just happen to Ireland/UK a few days ago.... Kinda fulfills the "wind and seas roaring" prophesy.
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I reckon we will see a lot more of this in the next couple of weeks Otto.
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For those who think 2007 is 2012, what do you think will happen on this day?

Personally, if anything is going to happen, i think the veil will be lifted, and every human will once again have the ability to connect directly with the godhead.. in other words, there will be no more secrets, no more confusion.. and the only thing that will matter there after is re-ordering things into a more harmonious way of being.

What y'all think?? hf
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Just had a thought.. given the inherent electric connection of us to the Universe (see electric universe theory).. could the WATER in our bodies be affected by the upcoming conjunction? Clustered water is what im getting at.. super clustered water, maybe? lol..

just a thought
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Great post, OP! Thank you.
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Thanks !

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Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 18:3)
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Just had a thought.. given the inherent electric connection of us to the Universe (see electric universe theory).. could the WATER in our bodies be affected by the upcoming conjunction? Clustered water is what im getting at.. super clustered water, maybe? lol..

just a thought
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Exactly. For those who continue to say the "change" is not until 2012 - may I repeat: There is a planetary line -up THIS YEAR. To say that NOTHING will happen is ridiculous. Maybe we can only speculate what will, but there's no denying ALL the ancients point to this phenomena as signalling the End Times.

Oh - one other thing - To the person who mentioned that comet Holmes will eclipse the moon - No. It is Mars - and that is why the saying "The moon will be blood red" - even tho there are folks who are saying that Mars is no longer "red".
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just asked Jonh Major Jenkins if he thinks 2007 is 2012

Here is his answer:

Miguel,



No, the five-year shift is a misconception. See Item #6 here: [link to www.alignment2012.com] It only works if you shift one calendric framework while neglecting to shift the other, which reveals the flaw in the logic.



The galactic alignment is “the alignment of the December solstice sun with the galactic equator (at the dark rift in the Milky Way)”. This location is also the center-point of the cross formed by the Milky Way and ecliptic, which is the traditional Sacred Tree in Maya cosmology and mythology. See: [link to www.alignment2012.com]



The astronomical definition of the galactic alignment allows for a 36-year range, due to the ½ degree width of the sun. As I’ve discussed in my books going back to 1995, given the 1998 calculation for the precise midpoint of the sun, the range is thus 1980-2016. See also: [link to alignment2012.com]



None of this, at this level of presentation, argues for the efficacy of the alignment, but merely is intended to establish the compelling visual nature of the alignment for the ancient Maya sky-watchers. The possible science behind the alignment was discussed in several chapters of my book Galactic Alignment (2002).



John
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This is in french, but the images are super rare and seem to dissapear easily... [link to presselibreinternationale.com]
Simplicity is the key to Heaven...more than ever.

Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 18:3)
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Wow...this is 7 pages over due-----> bsflag This is all BS!
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just asked Jonh Major Jenkins if he thinks 2007 is 2012

Here is his answer:

The astronomical definition of the galactic alignment allows for a 36-year range, due to the ½ degree width of the sun. As I’ve discussed in my books going back to 1995, given the 1998 calculation for the precise midpoint of the sun, the range is thus 1980-2016. See also: [link to alignment2012.com]

John
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What's interesting on this site is the explanation of the galactic equator:

"The Galactic equator: The precise mid-line running down the Milky Way. Analogous to the earth's equator, it divides the galaxy into two hemispheres, or lobes."

Just EXACTLY like the human brain! We know that via meditation, the hemispheres of the brain begin to connect together and thus - "enlightenment" is possible. There's no doubt in my mind that this point will do the same with our brains/DNA - Consciousnesss shift.

But I still can't buy that it's in 2012. He himself, if I understand what he's saying clearly - is that there is a window of time for all of this to transpire - 1980-2016. If anything, I think the major stuff at least begins this year with this line up.
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Wow...this is 7 pages over due-----> bsflag This is all BS!
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And your SCIENTIFIC explanation for your flag and why this is all bullshit would be...........?

Put up or shut up, troll.
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There has been lots of talk about this date latley. I became interested in it some time ago now, other information has been pouring out, one after another that basically confirm that this will be an incredible event indeed.
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A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.



Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007

This on its own is a miraculous event, An extremely rare occasion. The silence about its even existence is deafening.
There are people who i have spoke with who fact think that this is the misinterpreted story of the bible, related to the 3 days of darkness.
They think the Sun will be on the galactic cross and die and be reborn again after 3 days.
I do think that story is related, however as in the "on earth as it is in heaven" part.
i am not Christian, but i was aghast at the significance of celestial events.
The we have Comet Holmes. They say comets are the harbingers of great change.
If the galactic Cross and the amazing Comet Holmes was not enough to make me really sit up and take note, we have 2 more comets showing up that will be in our skies on the 23rd.
[link to www.texasastro.org]

When Italian astronomer Andrea Boattini announced from Arizona’s Mount Lemmon Observatory, this past week, of his discovery of a new comet (C/2007W-Boattini), expected to be observable from Earth in June, 2008, it brought the number of new comets discovered this year to 146, and which, according to Sergei Smirnov, of the Pulkovo Observatory in St. Petersburg, constitutes ‘an historically unprecedented comet swarm’ never before seen entering into our Solar System.

Also known as the 3 wize men.

Anyone been looking at the Sun lately?
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

look at it now.. it has been like that for ages. Minimal activity, nothing almost. Where are the Sunspots?
This is the calm before the storm, i truly believe.

A poster on GLP posted a Thread about an Ex Whitehouse employee releasing information from NASA and university studies.
Thread: EX WhiteHouse Employee & Goverment Official Says We Are Heading For Planetary Ascension, Does Not Understand Why It Is Not All Over The Media!!
there is some awesome information there about what is going on. The beef is that poleshifts have happened recently on Neptune and pluto, that Mars is now a visible Blue and Green planet now and is being secretly Terraformed. Funny rockerfeller talked about that too,
More interestingly, NASA have detected movement at our Polar plates. It is likely we will have a pole shift of some sort in the near furure. Im not a fan of Zetatalk and this does not mean Nancy is right, A pole shift has been spoken of by many people, some a lot earlier. It is the story weaved around it that is wrong.
We are not originally from the Milky Way, read the link above, it will explain.

Then we get to Washington DC, a big smoking gun that backs my theory and what is happening exactly.
[link to salonesoterica.wordpress.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
This thread at GLP also explains how the sacred Geometry of DC points us to december 2007 too.
Thread: * December 23, 2007 * Secret Illuminati Timeline reaches OMEGA Point - what does it all mean??

Merry Christmas folks, there is more that i will post on this, but thats a good putting together of some of the information so far.
I think this is an incredible and unbelievable time.
Those who can see do not need to be told.
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and there hats are of iron they were huge one step could cross all rivers combined.dec 21 2006,and there were witnesses taking pictures,it apears the great rock is returning,for some this will mean the altar in the sky,for some this wil mean the secrets of the pyrimads,as the light triangel will follow,as the hawk has been my guide as in all ancient egypt.for one inch of this rock could mean thousands years of knowledge that has awaited the allseeing eye of great knowledge.life wil have new meaning.i remain lights on sunglasses.
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He is obviously not going to admit he made a mistake, given how much he personally has riding on the date 2012..

If the Sun is in alignment with the galatic centre this year, then how can it still be in alignment in 2012? It can't be both years. Obviously we will still be passing in/out of the line, but the exact line up can only occur at one moment..

So which is it? 2007.. or 2012..
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Aughhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Such Crap! Crap Crap Crap!
Sorry. I just suffered a grand mal Crap Attack!
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I'm usually the person telling doomers to shut up when a doom date comes about but - I've had a strange feeling lately; a feeling that something huge will happen soon.

I dunno.
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I, for one, will hardly sleep a wink until I'm celebrating getting through (if we do) the next 4 weeks on New Year's eve !
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This is in french, but the images are super rare and seem to dissapear easily... [link to presselibreinternationale.com]
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WOW. Quite the read when ran through a translator. Very interesting.
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120 mph winds off Oregon today.....seas to 40 ft. Didn't the same thing just happen to Ireland/UK a few days ago.... Kinda fulfills the "wind and seas roaring" prophesy.
 Quoting: Otto Site 162364

Here in Hawaii, rarish south winds storms and 30-40 foot waves from the north...
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December and VAL THOR


During the month of December, 1959, this writer was invited to speak at the National Evangelistic Center in Washington, D.C. The Pastor was Dr. John Mears. It was during this Evangelistic campaign that I chose to speak on the topic of Unidentified Flying Objects and The Bible. My research into UFO phenomena started in 1945. When I was a student at Eastern Bible College in Greenlane, Pennsylvania, my roommate told a very strange and unusual story about something that occurred while he was a pilot for the Army Air Force. He claimed he was flying point, leading a squadron of planes, when suddenly, without warning, out of a cloud bank came three dish-shaped objects. The objects buzzed the formation three separate times. All of the pilots scattered. When the planes had regrouped after the third time, they were instructed by radio from the Commanding Officer on the ground. They were told to bring the planes home immediately. Upon landing, the pilots were assembled in a board room. They were not questioned, rather they were TOLD by the Commanding Officer what they had seen was a flight of high-flying Canadian geese. My roommate, who was not given to fantasy, calculated the speed and altitude of these three objects and when he questioned the Commanding Officer, after making a determination that the so-called 'geese' were traveling at close to supersonic speeds at an altitude that wouldn't accommodate geese, he was told simply to keep his big mouth shut and mind his own business. And the Commanding Officer repeated, "What you saw was a flight of high-flying Canadian geese."

I related this story throughout the Eastern seaboard. Then in December of 1959, while speaking for Dr. John Mears, at his church, a strange thing took place. At the conclusion of the meeting, I was autographing my new book at that time, which was called "FLYING SAUCERAMA." It was newly off the press and we had quite a time passing these books out and autographing them.

The auditorium seated many, many hundreds of people. At the conclusion of my lecture, "UFO'S AND THE BIBLE," that evening, a young lady came to the platform. For the record, let's call her Nancy. And she asked me quietly, "Do you mind spending some time with me, may I see you, I want to ask you several questions; I want to tell you a few things." Because of the crowd, I did not find it convenient at that time to leave the platform and go to speak with this young lady. and then she pointed to one of the photographs I had on the platform which was a photograph of an individual who, according to some reports, claimed he was from another planet. The photograph was given to me by August C. Roberts, of Wayne, New Jersey, a close friend of mine who had sent me many photographs of UFOs in the past. And he stated, "This is a fellow who claims to be from another planet. If you want the photograph, you're welcome to it. And that's all the information he had at that time.

Nancy pointed to the photograph of the man who claimed that he was from another planet and said to me simply, "How would you like to meet him personally?" Of course I said that I would.

In the pressure of the crowd on the platform and in front of the platform, I kept apologizing to this lady that I couldn't speak to her at any length at that time, until finally, she reached into her purse and pulled out an identification folder, a packet if you will, and in this packet, number one was her identification card which read, "UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, PENTAGON BUILDING, DEPARTMENT..." so and so, and on the other side a photograph of her face with a number beneath it (an identifying badge). I quickly excused myself from the platform, borrowed the Minister's key and walked into the office. This lady pointed her finger at me and said, "Dr. Stranges, as a former Special Investigator are you still able to follow orders?" I said, "Of course I am." Second question, "Can you still follow orders without deviating?" I said, "Yes, of course." Then she said, "If you meet me at 8:00 o'clock tomorrow morning, I'll take you to where this man is." We shook hands and she left the Pastor's study. I sat there and contemplated on the events of the evening.

Upon my return to the hotel, I checked the desk to see whether or not there were any messages for me. There were none. The following morning at 7:00 a.m. I was pacing the cold Washington December sidewalk. Walking back and forth, I wondered what in the world was about to take place. Promptly at 8:00 o'clock, her car pulled up to the curb, she opened the door, I got in and we drove toward the bridge leading over to the Pentagon Building. The flow of traffic was to the right but she turned left and parked her car against the gate. A security guard saluted her. She saluted back. He saluted me and I returned his salute also.

After locking her car, we walked toward the building and we noticed there were several people all lined up ready to go into the building. One security guard was standing there and it appeared to me like he was checking people off as they passed in front of him. He had what looked like a large not pad on a clipboard. Behind me there were individuals both in uniform and in civilian clothing. In front of me likewise. Nancy walked in front of me and as she walked closer to the security guard, she reached into her purse, pulled out her badge and pinned it onto her blouse. She was wearing a two-piece suit, jacket and skirt, a blouse and a heavy coat over the entire affair.

As we approached the first guard, I knew as I looked up and down that line that everyone had a proper identification badge and I had none. I questioned Nancy and I asked her, "Do you have any ID for me?" She said, "No." I said, "What shall I do because we're getting closer and closer to that guard standing there." She said, "Do exactly as I do." I said, "What are you going to do?" She said, "Please get back in line." And I did. And as she got level with the guard, she opened her coat and jacket and exposed her badge pinned to her blouse. And I thought, "My God." And I just opened my jacked, showed him my shirt and kept on walking. And this old boy never stopped me, never questioned me once, so I kept on going.

I caught up with Nancy and she said, "That's fine. We have one more." I said, "One more what?" And she said, "One more security guard." To which I said, "Once, maybe; but twice, I'm not too sure." She said, "Please brother, let's get back in line." Which we did. We got into the second line. The same thing happened again. She opened her jacket, I opened mine, walked right on through. We were not questioned, nor did I turn around to see what he wrote when I passed in front of him. This was quite a unique experience. We walked into the building; the first time I'd ever been inside of the Pentagon. We walked in front of a door that had no sign, no number, no identification whatever. She said, "He is in there." She shook my hand and said, "God bless you. I'll see you in church tonight." I said, "I sure hope so."

I had my hand on that doorknob getting ready to move into this unusual experience when the thought crossed my mind, "How in the world do I get out of here?" I spun around quickly, caught up to Nancy and asked her the question. She said, "Brother, don't you know anything?" She said, "Get behind two people on your way out and do the exact same thing as what you did when you came in." I said, "All right." I shook her hand again, and she went her way and I went back to the door.

The following statements are made about that experience to the best of my recollection, to the very best of my ability. Here goes:

My hands slowly turned that doorknob as I walked through that doorway. Before me, there were two Air Force Officers and one Sergeant. The two Officers were writing on two flattop desks pushed together. The Sergeant, with his back to the door, was typing in the left-hand corner of the room. It was decorated with several steel file cabinets and there was another small desk and typewriter sitting in the corner and also what appeared to be a clothing closet also made of metal.

As I cleared my throat trying to get the attention of these men, I thought, "Now this is unusual for a Government Office. Here I am an outsider with no ID in a Government office and certainly there should be someone sitting there asking what my business was. Because it's not normal for an individual to go into a government office and not be challenged as to his reason for being there." Again, I cleared my throat, shuffled my shoes, shut the door, made quite a bit of noise if I may say so myself and still these men did not look at me.

Suddenly, without warning, out of the corner of my right eye I saw movement; I turned around quickly and standing there was a man six-foot-tall, weighing approximately 180-185 lbs. He had brown wavy hair, good-looking gentleman, brown eyes and a smile that would disarm anybody, with his hand outstretched to mine. And he said and I quote, "Hello, Frank. How are you?" Well, sir, during the next 30-minute period, I was dumbfounded for several reasons. First of all, here is a man who is standing in front of me whose photograph I had been carrying around with me for over a year, showing his picture in Churches, Evangelistic Centers, Universities, Colleges and schools up and down the East coast. And now here I am face to face with a man who claims to be from another world.

As our hands touched, his handshake was the grip of a man. There was personality in that handshake such as I have never witnessed from anyone on this planet before that time. Within the next 30 minutes, we discussed things about God, about the Bible, about the Universe, about space and science that again would stagger the imagination. The conversation was carefully recorded in my book, "Stranger At The Pentagon," as well as in my book, "My Friend From Beyond Earth." As I retell the story again, I wonder what would have happened in my life had I never repeated anything about this story. What would have happened to my Ministry if I had played it cool as I was advised by Air Force Intelligence and just kept my mouth shut and minded my own business on this entire affair. But I'm glad I did talk about it and I'm glad we did have this meeting. I'm glad for all the things that took place between 1959 and this year, 1983. I'm not one bit sorry that we did, in fact, relate information that he had given me at that time to many people in many parts of the world today.

He told me his name was Valiant. I said, "Do you have a last name like we do?" And he said, "Yes, Thor." I thought to myself, "Like a page out of Buck Rogers Magazine." I asked him where he was from. He said, "I'm from the inside of the planet that your Bible calls the Morning and the Evening Star." I said, "Venus?" He said, "Yes." At that time, please remember, NASA had not given us the report through JPL in California that the surface temperature on Venus was supposed to have been in excess of 800 degrees Fahrenheit. But let me clarify that by saying that our friends live on the interior of the planet. But then again, even if they did not, it is possible that we're speaking of life forms out there who do not conform to the calculations nor to the conclusions that are drawn by our most sophisticated instrumentation? Use that just as a P.S. if you will. Now, back to the story.

As I mentioned before, he stood about six-foot tall, weighed about 185 lbs., was dressed in civilian clothes and I had learned along the way that he was supposed to have had no fingerprints, so I took his hand again and certainly with great amazement and anticipation, I saw with my own eyes that his fingertips were bald as a peeled egg. He claimed at that time that he was being questioned by experts and they found that because his IQ topped 200, they gave up). Nevertheless, they tested his garment which he showed me in reply to my question, "Do you have a uniform?" He walked over to his clothes closet, opened it and produced, on what appeared to be a wooden hanger, a very strange uniform. Strange because as the sunlight glanced off the garment I got the impression that what he was holding was a garment that was made of liquid sunlight. It just glistened in the sunlight. I took it from him expecting it to be a heavy garment because of the volume of it. It was very, very light. It weighed ounces, not pounds. And the garment was complete with step-in boots, like a huge coverall with step-in boots. Without my having to ask him, he removed his jacket, stepped into the garment and in front of the garment there were no hooks, no buttons. But with one movement of his right hand, passing his hand over the open garment, fused it together clear up to the neck. And it was virtually impossible for anyone to see any opening on the front of that garment. You know, as a footnote, when I was on the Art Linkletter Show, not too long after that, explaining about my meeting with Val at the Pentagon and explaining the merits of this garment, I started receiving calls from the experts in the garment district in New York City to please set up an appointment with the man because they learned that the garment was called "indestructible" by the experts at the Pentagon who put his garment through such stress tests. For those of you who are interested in his theological point of view, I'm going to ask you to read that material in the book, "My Friend From Beyond Earth." Nevertheless, suffice it to say that Valiant Thor is not a fraud and he's not a fake. My opinion is that he's a member of an unfallen race, perhaps a race of individuals who were created even before Adam. He did not succumb to the temptation as Adam did. He is not subject to the limitations that we are on this planet.

At that time in 1959, he said he's here for a specific set of purposes and when those purposes have been completed, which they were to my understanding the following year, he was going to leave for a year and then return to his planet to accomplish whatever mission he would be sent to complete. He did say that his ship, shaped like a saucer, landed on the outskirts of Alexandria, Virginia, on the morning of March 16, 1957. He went on to relate that on the morning of March 16, 1969, he was going to depart from that point again. And sure enough, according to evidence, a UFO was sighted landing in that particular area and then taking off.

It's interesting to note that in my travels throughout the United States and Universities and Colleges, from time to time, we meet individuals who were employed at the Pentagon at that time. And they have knowledge of this unusual stranger at the Pentagon and they do know that the area where he was housed was completely off limits to everyone except authorized personnel.

We don't know what the future holds as far as this planet is concerned, but we do know who holds the future. We do know that Val and his people have been sent here to prevent an atomic holocaust that would devastate the human race on this third planet from the Sun. We do know that while there are those behind locked doors plotting wars and creating rumors of wars, there are those children of God in the Universe who have been dispatched from out there to assist we citizens of this beautiful planet, Earth. And we do know that, in time, all of the secrets of the Universe will be revealed to those who are walking in the proper frame of mind or shall I even say, the proper vibration. Please, when you read this article, don't write me and ask how you can meet him. Because he is not meeting people these days. He did meet quite a few individuals who have made such requests, but it appears that the only reason individuals want to meet with him is because they want to improve their own strata of society, they want tips on the stock markets, they want ways and means of creating a utopia for themselves, they want to know how to improve their own vehicle; they want to know how they can be healed of all kinds of sicknesses and diseases. And with all these selfish motivations, it's a miracle to me that he has contacted as many people on this planet as he has. But he did say, when the time is right, at their option only ~ when I say 'their,' I'm speaking of Valiant, his brothers and everyone else who's associated with him on his star ship. They will reveal themselves when they are ready and when the time is right.

Meanwhile, maintain an open mind. Do not believe everything you hear, everything you see, everything you read. But at the same time, don't let your unbelief cause you to miss one of the greatest opportunities of your entire lifetime.

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^Where are we meeting again, and who's bringing the Kool-Aid?

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