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December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

 
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Good ole MJ, aka BJ, and his day of destiny thread.

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The MIRACLE of Garabandal Explained
Please print out copies of these articles for your own personal use and for future reference!

The Miracle: When it will happen

Year: 2010
Month: May
Day: 13th
Day of the Week: Thursday
Time of Day: 8:30 p.m. (Garabandal time)
Liturgical Calendar: Feast of the Ascension

The Miracle is the same as the third secret of Medjugorje; this event is also called The Day of Healing.

The martyr of the Eucharist: Blessed Imelda Lambertini

The feast day of this martyr: She died on May 12th, but since her death occurred on the vigil for the Feast of the Ascension (May 13th that year), her feast day is May 13th. The apparitions of Fatima began on May 13th.

Reason for the Timing

Like the Warning, this event is a blessing from God intended to strengthen the Church and the faithful for the first part of the tribulation. At the point in time when the Miracle occurs, the first part of the tribulation will be imminent and will begin in the same calendar year.

The reason for the length of time from the Day of Repentance (the Warning, first secret) to the Day of Healing (the Miracle, the third secret) is so that people can reform their lives. It is not enough for you to repent at the first secret and to accept consolation from God at the second secret. You must continue along this same path to Heaven, continually repenting, continually converting, continually striving to imitate Christ. The one year and 33 days between the Warning and the Miracle is a time for people to reform their lives, to move away from sin, to pray, to practice self-denial, and to do works of mercy for persons in need (and there shall be great need during that time, especially spiritual needs).

The Miracle: When it will occur

The Virgin Mary said that the Miracle will occur on a Thursday, about 8:30 p.m. (Garabandal time) on the feast day of a martyr of the Eucharist, on a Thursday, coinciding with an event in the Church. Conchita has said that this martyr is not Jesus or Mary.

Conchita has said: “It will happen between the months of February and July and it will be between the 7th and the 17th, but I will not tell you which year.”

Conchita has also said that, after Pope John 23rd, there would be only three more Popes before the events predicted at Garabandal would begin. This is true, but often misunderstood. It does NOT mean that there will be only three more Popes ever; in fact, there will be many more Popes. After John 23, there was Paul 6, John Paul 1 and John Paul 2. Therefore, the events predicted at Garabandal will begin during the reign of the current Pope: Benedict 16.

Now some misguided but well-meaning persons have claimed that the Miracle will happen in April: this is not true. They drew this conclusion by putting together a series of different comments that Conchita allegedly made over the years, even though she expressly chose not to reveal the exact month. They drew an incorrect conclusion.

The martyr of the Eucharist is Blessed Imelda Lambertini. She was more of a martyr of the Eucharist than any other Saint or Blessed, because she died out of love for the Eucharist. The cause of her death was not someone killing her while she defended the Eucharist, nor was it someone killing her because she was a Christian (as in other martyrdoms). She died at the tender age of eleven years upon receiving her first Communion. She went into such a state of ecstasy, out of love for Christ Present in the Eucharist, that her soul separated from her body, causing her death (this can only occur when God wills it). Before her death, Blessed Imelda said: “Tell me, can anyone receive Jesus into his heart and not die?”

She died at age 11 upon receiving her first Communion on the day of the vigil (May 12th) of the Feast of the Ascension (May 13th, 1333). She was not supposed to receive her first Communion at that time, because she was too young. But, as she was in prayer before the Eucharist on May 12th, a miraculous light from Heaven shone down upon her, and a host was seen suspended in the light above her head, and so the chaplain wisely chose to give first Communion to her. She then went into a mystical ecstasy and died out of love for Jesus in the Eucharist. She has been named patroness of first communicants by Pope Pius X.

Reasons why she is the martyr of the Eucharist mentioned in the messages of Garabandal:

1. She was martyred as an eleven year old girl; the visionaries of Garabandal were all girls of about 11 or 12 years of age at the time of the apparitions.
2. She is perhaps the greatest martyr of the Eucharist, next to the Virgin Mary, having died purely out of devotion to the Sacrament.
3. She died on the vigil of the Feast of the Ascension. God wishes these events of the Warning and the Miracle to coincide with events in the liturgical calendar, so that these events lead people to the Catholic Church and not away from it. (The first three secrets of Medjugorje, and also the much later three days of darkness, are all in harmony with the liturgical calendar.)
4. Her feast day falls within the months and days given by Conchita.
5. The Miracle occurs on a Thursday; she died on the vigil of Ascension Thursday in 1333. In most years her feast does not coincide with Ascension Thursday. But in the year 2010, her feast day again coincides with the Feast of the Ascension.
6. Her death on the vigil of the Feast of the Ascension, as a martyr for the Eucharist, shows us that, even though Christ ascended to Heaven on that day, He still remains with us in the Eucharist. The Miracle also is a sign of the same idea, that Christ is still present among us, though He sits at the right hand of the Father in Heaven.
7. Even though she died on May 12th, her feast day is May 13th, the same day as the first apparition of the Virgin Mary at Fatima.
8. She died in 1333, a mystical number which indicates the Most Holy Trinity (three yet one).
9. Her feast day, May 13th, again indicating the Trinity as three yet one.
10. Her feast day, May 13th, is one year and 33 days after the Warning.
11. She is the patroness of fervent first Communions, meaning that the Church has given her a special role concerning the Eucharist.

12. According to an article by Gabriel Garnica in the Oct-Dec 2004 issue of Garabandal Magazine, the Pines at Garabandal were planted to commemorate the first communions of children; Blessed Imelda is the patroness of first communions. [#12 added on 11 April 2007]

An Event in the Church

Conchita has said that the Miracle will coincide with an event in the Church, one that has happened a few times in the past, but not since Conchita was born (she was born in 1949): “It is a singular event in the Church that happens very rarely, and has never happened in my lifetime…. It will happen on the same day as the Miracle, but not as a consequence of the Miracle, only coincidentally.”

I believe that this event is the canonization of a Pope, specifically, the canonization of Pope John Paul II. As Conchita says, this event is only coincidental to the event of the Miracle. However, the date of a canonization is generally announced well in advance. So, for some persons, this may serve as a confirmation of the date of the Miracle. The date of this event is therefore May 13th of 2010.

Will There Be A World War?

The Virgin Mary told Conchita that there will never be a world war, that there will be wars between countries, but not a global conflict.

It is true that no war will ever involve the whole world, neither in our generation, nor even when, in the early 25th century, the Antichrist comes to power. However, World Wars 1 and 2 are still called world wars, even though they did not involve the whole world. And Scripture clearly describes extensive wars that have not yet occurred, for example: in the Book of Daniel, chapters 8 and 11, and in the Book of Revelation, the first and sixth of the Seven Seals. Therefore, there will be a war correctly called World War 3, and another war correctly called World War 4, even though these will not be completely worldwide in scope.

Also, because the Virgin Mary said that there would not be a truly global world war, there will be no world war that involves all of the superpowers (the U.S., Russia, and China). Some have suggested that such a conflict between those three superpower would be a part of the tribulation, but such is not the case. No such war between the U.S., China, and Russia will ever occur.

The Miracle: What it is

Conchita wrote: “It will be the greatest miracle that Jesus has performed for the world. There won't be the slightest doubt that it comes from God and that it is for the good of mankind.”

She has also said: “The sick who are present at the miracle will be cured and the sinners will be converted.”

But if this Miracle were confined to Garabandal, it would not be the greatest miracle, nor would it truly be for the whole world. Therefore, what is said to happen at Garabandal, the curing of the sick, will happen not only there, but throughout the whole world. Many people all over the world will be suddenly and miraculously healed by God, in every nation and in every part of every nation. This is truly the greatest miracle yet.

The Miracle is three-fold:

1. Very many (but not all) sick and injured persons (even those very severely afflicted) will be healed in their bodies throughout the world.
2. Very many unbelievers will be converted.
3. Many Permanent Signs will be left on earth at many locations of true apparitions of the Virgin Mary on earth.

1. The sick and injured will be cured.

a. Those present for the Permanent Signs

Those who are present in any location where any of the Permanent Signs are placed by God will be miraculously cured of any illness or injury, even very severe ones. There will be Permanent Signs at Garabandal, Medjugorje, and numerous other sites of true private revelation.

Those who are present will also be cured of illnesses of the soul or spirit, such as a lack of faith, or such as a spiritual obstacle to faith or holiness (e.g. if they are angry at God, or if there is a particular doctrine that they find themselves unable to accept). Such persons will be healed in body, spirit, and soul, so that they will believe, and so that the path to holiness will be opened up (but it is still the same difficult road to Calvary that we all walk).

Those present for one of the Permanent Signs will necessarily and certainly be healed, unless they are evil or are obstinately unwilling to cooperate with God's graces (for God never assaults our free will). Some few evil persons, both those openly evil and those evil but pretending to be good, who are present for one of the Permanent Signs, will drop dead by an act of God (cf. Acts 5:5 and 5:10), because they are obstinately unrepentant.

b. Those not present for the Permanent Signs

Of those who are not present in any location where one of the Permanent Signs is placed by God, many of these will still be healed. Out of those who are not present for one of the Permanent Signs, there is no way to know in advance who will be healed and who will not be healed. Some of those healed will be holy, others will be repentant sinners. The closer you are to God, the more likely you are to be healed. But some of the faithful will not be healed, whereas some unbelievers and some sinful members of the Church may be healed.

If someone has accepted the gift of repentance and of true sorrow for sin on the Day of Repentance (the Warning; the first secret), and has received the gift of consolation on the Day of Consolation (the second secret), and has since remained on the path to God, such a one as this, having some illness or injury from which he or she needs to be healed, will be much more likely to be healed by God on the Day of Healing (the Miracle; the third secret). But even some sinners who failed on those previous occasions may be healed, if they cooperative with God's grace to a very full extent.

If you are afflicted with a serious illness or injury, or a serious spiritual affliction, you should try to be present at one of the locations where a Permanent Sign will be given. But beware of false prophets, who will claim that a sign will be given where they are, but it will not be given, for they are false. See my list of false private revelations:
[link to www.catholicplanet.com]

2. Unbelievers will be converted.

This miraculous healing includes a healing of the soul and spirit, as well as the body. For conversion is a healing of the soul.

Some will be converted because they are healed by God in body, spirit, and soul. Some will be converted because they are healed by God in soul (so that God removes some spiritual obstacle to their conversion). Some will be converted because they see others being miraculously healed by God. Some will be converted because they see the Permanent Sign and realize that it is of God. Some will be converted merely because they respond to God's grace with their free will, during this time of great graces.

The number and extent of these conversions and healings will be worldwide and truly astounding. Nearly everyone will know of someone (family member, distant relative, neighbor, friend, acquaintance) who was healed miraculously by God. The number of healings will be so many that they cannot be counted.

I warn you all: Not everyone will be healed! Do your best to convert! Do penance and pray and practice self-denial and do works of mercy and accept every teaching of the Catholic Church, before this event, beginning as soon as possible! Otherwise, you may find yourself cast aside by God because of your own freely chosen obstinacy!!!

3. Permanent Signs will be left on earth.

The Permanent Sign is something which has never before been seen on earth, which can be seen and photographed, but not touched. The Permanent Sign will be placed by God at the sites of many various true private revelations (but not all of them). These Permanent Signs will remain forever on earth. Neither the fallen angels, nor any human power, can remove these Signs. They will be irrefutable signs of the existence of God. (Future evil generations will cover them and deny their existence.) These Signs will remain until the very last day (in the very distant future), which is called Judgment Day, that is, the day of the general resurrection of the just and the unjust. These Signs are a reminder, not only that God exists, but that He will Judge us on the last day. (This last day is many centuries in the future.)

Since the Virgin Mary made a point of choosing a date which was related to a martyr of the Eucharist, even though this martyr died the day before the chosen date, the Permanent Sign must be somehow related to the Eucharist. Certainly the Permanent Sign is not merely the Eucharist, but it must be related to the Eucharist, so that it in some points out to the world the Most Blessed Sacrament, which gives life to the world.

IMPORTANT! There are many false claimed apparitions of the Virgin Mary and Jesus in the world today.
See my articles: Claims of Private Revelation: True or False?
[link to www.catholicplanet.com]

There will be NO Permanent Sign at any location associated with false claims of apparitions or messages from Jesus or Mary. Beware of false prophets who will try to encourage people to go to their sites of false private revelations, promising them many blessings if they go. But when the Miracle and Signs occur in other places, they will not occur at these false sites, and the people there will not receive the blessings promised to them by these false prophets. There will be no Miracle or Permanent Sign at any location of false private revelation. In this way, after the Permanent Signs are left on earth, it will become clearer as to which claimed private revelations (messages, apparitions, signs and wonders, etc.) are true and which are false.

Now certain true private revelations might not be given Permanent Signs, either because they have no location associated with the apparitions (such as those to Fr. Gobbi), or for some other reason. But beware of false private revelations which, after they do not receive a Permanent Sign, make all kinds of excuses as to why they did not receive it.

Now for those of you who were not healed by God in the Great Miracle of Healing, there is a second chance for you. Some few persons will be healed by God after the Miracle, if they are repentant and prayerful and practice self-denial and are merciful to others, and if it is God's will, when they make a pilgrimage to one of the sites of the Permanent Signs.

More About The Permanent Signs

Conchita (one of the visionaries of Garabandal) has said:

“A sign of the miracle, which it will be possible to film or televise but not touch, will remain forever at the pines.”

Garabandal is one of the locations of true private revelation where there will be a permanent sign. At Medjugorje, the Virgin Mary gave a message about the permanent sign of the third secret there, saying:

“This sign will be given for the atheists. You faithful already have signs and you have become the sign for the atheists. You faithful must not wait for the sign before you convert: convert soon. This time is a time of grace for you. When the sign comes, it will be too late. As a mother I caution you because I love you. The secrets exist. My children! Nothing is known of these now, but when they are known, it will be too late. Return to prayer, nothing is more important than this. I would like it if the Lord allowed me to reveal some of the secrets to you, but that which He is doing for you is already a Grace which is almost too much.”

It has also been said at Medjugorje that the permanent sign will be beautiful and indestructible, remaining until the end of the world. It will be something that has never before been in this world. The sign will be at Apparition Mountain, in Medjugorje, where Mary first appeared.

Now I do not know what the permanent sign will be; for it is not of this world and I have never received any private revelations myself. However, I can tell you that the permanent sign will occur at numerous other places around the world where the Virgin Mary has appeared. The permanent sign of Garabandal and of Medjugorje are the same kind of sign, occurring on the same day, along with the other permanent signs of the true private revelations.

The permanent sign of Garabandal is not the Miracle itself, only a sign left after the Miracle. Similarly, the permanent sign of Medjugorje is not the third secret, but a sign left after the third secret. The Miracle and the third secret are the very same worldwide event.

The permanent sign will not appear at places where persons falsely claim that the Virgin Mary has appeared. There are numerous false claims of private revelation in the world today. Some of these are due to deliberate human deception, but most are due to the action of fallen angels, appearing to certain persons in the form of Jesus or Mary or other heavenly persons. The Warning will have corrected many persons who had been deceived by these false prophets. But some persons will persist in their sins of supporting these false private revelations and their false prophets. Some might even try to claim that a permanent sign will appear at the site of their false private revelations; or they might make excuses as to why such a sign will not appear at their sites. When the permanent sign occurs at the sites of numerous different true private revelations around the world, most people will lose interest in these false private revelations.

Does the Miracle Occur Within 12 Months of the Warning?

No. The Miracle occurs one year and 33 days after the Warning.

The visionaries have said that many people will lose their confidence in the apparitions and message of Garabandal prior to the Miracle. Notice that they say 'prior to the Miracle,' not prior to the Warning. It is already evident that many Catholics, even those who believe in Medjugorje, do not believe in Garabandal. But this is not the predicted disbelief; rather, it is that, between the Warning and the Miracle, many will lose their trust in Garabandal. I think one reason is the claim, based on statements from the visionaries, that the Miracle will occur within 12 months after the Warning. When 12 months pass and the Miracle has not yet occurred, many will lose confidence in Garabandal.

This misunderstanding of the length of time between the Warning and the Miracle is permitted by God as a test of faith. When the Miracle does not occur within 12 months of the Warning, then the weak in faith and the unbelievers will turn aside. God required true and lasting faith of us, not a transient faith that is too weak to stand without constant signs and miracles.

Now Conchita knows the date of the Miracle, but she cannot reveal it until 8 days beforehand. And she does not know the date, or even the year, of the Warning. Mari Loli knows the year of the Warning, but not the date or year of the Miracle. In one place, she says that these two events occur in the same year, but in another place, she says that they occur within a year. She has also said that she does not know if they occur in the same calendar year. So, she does not know the date of either event, only the year of one event. She therefore cannot know if they occur within 12 months of one another. Her only source for this claim is that the Virgin Mary told her something like this, but she cannot remember the exact wording, for she was only about 11 or 12 at the time (in the early 1960's).

I believe that Mari Loli was told by the Virgin Mary something like: that there will be 12 months between the Warning and the Miracle, or that the Miracle occurs the next year after the Warning. But then Mari Loli misunderstood. The Miracle occurs in the next calendar year after the Warning, (which is also the next liturgical year) and there are 12 full calendar months between the month that contains the Warning and the month that contains the Miracle.

The Church teaches that God is infallible. But the Church also teaches that true private revelation from God is fallible. So where does this fallibility in true private revelation come from? Not from God. It comes from the fallibility of the one receiving the private revelation. There are known instances of Saints and Blesseds, in their adult years, misunderstanding a true private revelation from God or from Mary. So it is entirely possible that four girls of about 11 or 12 year of age might misunderstand some of the things that were said to them. And God does not generally correct this kind of misunderstanding in true private revelation, lest true private revelation, becoming error-free, might undermine the three pillars of the teaching of the Church: Tradition, Scripture, Magisterium.

Here is a test of both faith and wisdom. If you have both faith and wisdom, you may know the dates and events of the secrets of Medjugorje and Garabandal well in advance. But if you are lacking in either or both, you will not know what to believe, and you will not have the confidence to sustain even what you think is true.


by Ronald L. Conte Jr.
published April 9th, 2007

May God give you grace and peace during the difficult years ahead.
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bump for nostalgia :-)
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Wow look at all those dates that never became doom.... Come on 2012, pleaze be the one peace
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bump For epic fail and for the newer tards who keep repeating every year that "this is the year". yawn
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Those who can see do not need to be told.

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It's very weird reading the posts here on this thread.
Thread: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny (Page 63)

This is 12/23/07and they are all talking about 'nothing' really occurring.

On 12/21/07 I had my first conscious contact with ET (Greys). On this day - 12/23/07 - I was going to have my second conscious contact (2 nights between first and second). It's strange, reading the replies on this date, knowing that later that night, I was going to have another experience. Gives me the shivers. 3 days of Darkness?
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It's very weird reading the posts here on this thread.
Thread: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny (Page 63)

This is 12/23/07and they are all talking about 'nothing' really occurring.

On 12/21/07 I had my first conscious contact with ET (Greys). On this day - 12/23/07 - I was going to have my second conscious contact (2 nights between first and second). It's strange, reading the replies on this date, knowing that later that night, I was going to have another experience. Gives me the shivers. 3 days of Darkness?
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Conscious contact? Had you seen them on the Astral Plane before that?

May I ask, What was their message?
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It's very weird reading the posts here on this thread.
Thread: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny (Page 63)

This is 12/23/07and they are all talking about 'nothing' really occurring.

On 12/21/07 I had my first conscious contact with ET (Greys). On this day - 12/23/07 - I was going to have my second conscious contact (2 nights between first and second). It's strange, reading the replies on this date, knowing that later that night, I was going to have another experience. Gives me the shivers. 3 days of Darkness?
 Quoting: SickScent


Conscious contact? Had you seen them on the Astral Plane before that?

May I ask, What was their message?
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Yes, conscious contact. Astral, not sure if I did, though I did ask for conscious memory of experience from the astral, and I was granted that.

I don't know what their message is/was. I can only remember them coming or leaving, not the main part of the experience. But, those parts are very, very clear in my mind.
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It's very weird reading the posts here on this thread.
Thread: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny (Page 63)

This is 12/23/07and they are all talking about 'nothing' really occurring.

On 12/21/07 I had my first conscious contact with ET (Greys). On this day - 12/23/07 - I was going to have my second conscious contact (2 nights between first and second). It's strange, reading the replies on this date, knowing that later that night, I was going to have another experience. Gives me the shivers. 3 days of Darkness?
 Quoting: SickScent


Conscious contact? Had you seen them on the Astral Plane before that?

May I ask, What was their message?
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, conscious contact. Astral, not sure if I did, though I did ask for conscious memory of experience from the astral, and I was granted that.

I don't know what their message is/was. I can only remember them coming or leaving, not the main part of the experience. But, those parts are very, very clear in my mind.
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My first an only contact with "aliens" was when I was five y/o in 1982. They told me I was special.
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It's very weird reading the posts here on this thread.
Thread: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny (Page 63)

This is 12/23/07and they are all talking about 'nothing' really occurring.

On 12/21/07 I had my first conscious contact with ET (Greys). On this day - 12/23/07 - I was going to have my second conscious contact (2 nights between first and second). It's strange, reading the replies on this date, knowing that later that night, I was going to have another experience. Gives me the shivers. 3 days of Darkness?
 Quoting: SickScent


Conscious contact? Had you seen them on the Astral Plane before that?

May I ask, What was their message?
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes, conscious contact. Astral, not sure if I did, though I did ask for conscious memory of experience from the astral, and I was granted that.

I don't know what their message is/was. I can only remember them coming or leaving, not the main part of the experience. But, those parts are very, very clear in my mind.
 Quoting: SickScent


My first an only contact with "aliens" was when I was five y/o in 1982. They told me I was special.
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I have no memory of them saying anything about me.
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end of the 13th baktun
was an impressive view from the iss above.
The " Global Financial Meltdown" is nothing but a covert Conspiracy to lower the standards of living in Countries like America and the UK...
So that Integration with all other countries in the world will be easier in the coming unified Global power system.
Oh it's on!
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notice anything interesting???
[link to www.solarsystemscope.com]
did anyone ever take in to account the fountain dimensions...
The " Global Financial Meltdown" is nothing but a covert Conspiracy to lower the standards of living in Countries like America and the UK...
So that Integration with all other countries in the world will be easier in the coming unified Global power system.
Oh it's on!
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Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny
Hello All,

UPDATES: I have taken this chart to the experts and you do realize that your Messiah is a short, dark haired chubby man with a work at home job and most likely a chef or does daycare..

Have you honestly all looked at this chart???


Where does this man derive his power from? How does he even exist or accomplish anything on such a chart?

How will he rule nations, rule over kings and fulfill all the prophecies you expect him to?

Well, since hes only 5 years old..

I mean, seriously. How is this the chart of the Messiah..
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Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny
The Messianic Redemption will be ushered in by a person, a human leader, a descendant of Kings David and Solomon, who will reinstate the Davidic royal dynasty. According to tradition, Moshiach will be wiser than Solomon, and a prophet around the level of Moses.

Ever since the destruction of the Holy Temple, in every generation there is an individual, a scion of the House of David, who has the potential to be the Moshiach. If at any moment the Jews are worthy of redemption, this person would be directed from Above to assume the role of the redeemer.

[link to www.chabad.org]