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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 328104
12/3/2007 9:15 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Is it possible that the dragon is Planet X?
Quite possible. The Kolbrin describes "The Destroyer" as a fiery Dragon. Quoting: Starseeder
Ironically, when you translate this page to english
[link to presselibreinternationale.com]
The very end refers to the destroyer in 12/2007 |
| Michael
User ID: 181321
12/3/2007 9:24 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Why am I so confident something will happen this December 2007?
In order to understand, you need to understand how the solar system works--and not the crap NASA tells you.
You can use this simulator...
[ link to www.fourmilab.ch]
Back in Dec of 2004, there was a very large earthquake in Sumatra. This was caused by an earth, mercury,venus,mars square neptune alignment. When venus (or mercury) broke the alignment, a very large lever style tug brought to the earth. Use the simulator for reference.
In December of 2006, you will recall some interesting X-class flares during what should have been a solar minimum.
This was caused by the sun, venus, pluto Galactic center alignment. When Venus crosses an alignment, it causes in many cases a reversal affect. There was a large pull generated from the pluto, sun GC alignment--and when venus crosed it, it cause what could be termed a polarity reversal which streamed an energy of sorts at the sun--in which the big candle it is reacted accordingly.
In June of 2004 we had the venus transit. Right after venus transited the sun, Florida was hit with 4 hurricanes within a month. And there were lots of intense sunspots--weren't there?
To deny that the arrangement of the planets, what constellation they occupy, and their relation to the sun and or earth has an affect on the weather here is pure folly.
Sunspots are cause by two or more planets aligning within a certain precision to the sun. The more precise the alignment along with the constellation involved, the more dramatic the affect. The Galactic center is among the most powerful of the constellation areas. (Scorpio capricorn)
In December of this year, you will have a neptune venus square earth, a full moon at mars, and Mars, moon, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto GC alignment. You will also have a cross of Saturn in Leo to Venus, sun, Uranus.
To say that this will not affect both the sun and the earth is foolhardy. It will only be a question of Magnitutde.
It is easy to quote the Bible or to shrug your shoulders and not understand the mechanics of it all. When you understand the mechanics--then a picture begins to develop.
Add this to the recent ballooning of Comet holmes 17/p. How does a comet expand to the size of the sun (it's gas cloud) withought an influx of energy? You can't drive a car without gas can you? There is a scientific explaination to everything. The reason this comet expanded is because it entered an energy field causing a chemical /electrical reaction. And because it is moving away from the sun--it was caused by something else. You will notice the comet is in alignment with jupiter and mars. The earth will be entering that area this month. As to what it will cause, or to what degree is anyones guess.
The reason why I write this to you all is so you will take an interest in how things really work, and to understand that just like a life insurance policy, you need to make modest preparations. I don't criticize the government or point fingers at any group because it is a pointless and distracting effort. As with any potential emergency, being prepared can make a big difference. Yes, depending on magnitude, any preparations could be a crapshoot, but not to make any effort is foolish. Even the US government says you should have emergency supplies on hand--go to the Fema Website--it is good advice, although I think people should prepare a bit more than they suggest.
People can try to debunk this all they want--the proof will be in the pudding. Personally, I hope whatever effects occur are mild and easily dealt with. But we are in uncharted waters. Don't get all mad if you buy a year's worth of food and nothing happens. I am not telling anyone to build a bunker or panic. (although personally, I would avoid coastlines) What I am telling you is having food, water, a backup heat source, medicines you need and other disaster necessities would be prudent to have on hand--not just for you, but also to share with friends and neighbors.
I am not telling anyone to fear the NWO or any other such nonsence.
And considering that this is such a rare series of alignments, don't you find the silence in the astronomical community and media outlets to be quite deafening?
Why? Because media outlets will immediately capitalize on knucklehead predictions of doom due to planetary alignments especially when those at the top know nothing of consequence will happen. This takes away any credibility from people who research the real causes of things--and when an alignment with potential affects is about to happen, peeple will shrug their shoulders and totally ignore it in blissful ignorance.
Your weather, ladies and gentleman, is due to the arrangements in the solar system. Although mankind can certainly pollute and destroy our beautiful planet--this is not the prime cause of the weather abnormalities we have had over the past few years.
Mike
Nice post friend...a lot of truth spoken there..
Thanks
Peace |
| Dr. No
User ID: 335250
12/3/2007 9:33 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Interesting |
| FOOLS are so Gullible
User ID: 335176
12/3/2007 9:42 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
[link to www.fourmilab.ch]
Check out that sky viewer above, and type in the dates:
2007-12-24
2007-12-23
2007-12-22
2007-12-21
This is from 2007-12-23 by the website above:
IMAGE (
[link to i10.tinypic.com]
)
How can people sit here and bluntly lie about it forming a perfect cross around that time? It's not a perfect cross, there isn't even a right side to it!!! Where the f*%$ do you people come up with this sh1t? Seriously...
Let me remind you all what a cross looks like:
IMAGE (
[link to i9.tinypic.com]
)
I hate to tell you but stars only some-what resemble that.
Your all so gullible!
LOOK UP, THE SKY IS FALLING on you fools.
and why you at it look at 2007-12-21 and around those dates at that link. Nothing special is happening! No galatic perfect cross in the sky. Sorry fools, nothing is going to happen. RETARDS! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 328104
12/3/2007 9:56 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
[ link to www.fourmilab.ch]
Check out that sky viewer above, and type in the dates:
2007-12-24
2007-12-23
2007-12-22
2007-12-21
This is from 2007-12-23 by the website above:
IMAGE (
[ link to i10.tinypic.com]
)
How can people sit here and bluntly lie about it forming a perfect cross around that time? It's not a perfect cross, there isn't even a right side to it!!! Where the f*%$ do you people come up with this sh1t? Seriously...
Let me remind you all what a cross looks like:
IMAGE (
[ link to i9.tinypic.com]
)
I hate to tell you but stars only some-what resemble that.
Your all so gullible!
LOOK UP, THE SKY IS FALLING on you fools.
and why you at it look at 2007-12-21 and around those dates at that link. Nothing special is happening! No galatic perfect cross in the sky. Sorry fools, nothing is going to happen. RETARDS!
Appreciate your point. Try this tool instead.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
You have more flexability with tilt, zoom, angle, etc. |
| Starseeder
User ID: 322788
12/3/2007 10:05 PM
 | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Is it possible that the dragon is Planet X?
Quite possible. The Kolbrin describes "The Destroyer" as a fiery Dragon.
Ironically, when you translate this page to english
[ link to presselibreinternationale.com]
The very end refers to the destroyer in 12/2007
The last image at the bottom of the page linked represents Ophiuchus. In his right hand, he holds a Serpent and in his left one, a human baby (the Man child of Revelation 12 : 13). Ophiuchus restrains the Serpent. He protects the child. He is the Restrainer spoken in II Thessalonicians 2 : 6-7...
And now you know what witholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work : only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Ophiuchus (Οφιούχος IPA: /ˌɒfiːˈuːkəs/), formerly referred to as Serpentarius (/ˌsɚpənˈtɛəriəs/), the former originating in Greek and then later in Latin, both meaning "serpent-holder," is one of the 88 constellations and was also one of the 48 listed by Ptolemy. It is a large constellation located around the celestial equator between Aquila, Serpens and Hercules, northwest of the center of the Milky Way. The southern part lies between Scorpius to the west and Sagittarius to the east. Of the 13 zodiacal constellations (constellations that contain the Sun during the course of the year), Ophiuchus is the only one not counted as an astrological sign.
It is best visible in the northern summer and located opposite Orion in the sky. Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent; the interposition of his body divides the snake into two parts, Serpens Caput and Serpens Cauda, which are nonetheless counted as one constellation.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Rev. 12 : 13-14
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
The “great eagle” in verse 14 is the constellation Aquila (The Eagle).
Prophecy is written all over the heavens.
Simplicity is the key to Heaven. |
| ScienceOnly
User ID: 323401
12/3/2007 10:42 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Just to chime in here,
Almost 1 year ago, comet McNaught 2006P1 caused quite a comotion.
Here is the text of a thread I started...related to the subject of this thread:
Hey cyber wizzes,
I wanted to post some dates, one of which I found to be extremely curious.
Using StarryNight software, I determined that the comet passed through the plane of the planets at about 1/14/2007 2:30:00 UT, phi=87 degrees. Then I took a look at when each of the planets will pass through this point in space.
Here are the results:
2/10/07 - 2/11/07 Mercury (only listed once, although it's orbit complete about every three months)
3/22/07 - 3/23/07 Venus, then again on
11/2/07 - 11/3/07
12/14/07 - 12/15/07 Mars
12/20/07 - 12/21/07 Earth
Note how this December, Mars and Earth pass the point where the tail was very closely, first Mars, then about a week later Earth.
Also note that the passage for Earth is smack dead on the Winter solstice.
curious eh?
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Again I say, "Curious eh?" |
| hmmmm
User ID: 335176
12/3/2007 10:43 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Haven't read the thread word for word, but one thing that stood out to me looking up December 23rd on Wikipedia is, in 2007, it's the 94th anniversary of the Federal Reserve being signed into law. Essentially the downfall of America as it was originally meant to be....
Maybe we should just be thinking about the downfall of America? Maybe another planned terrorist attack? Something to cause the american economy to fall out of position?
Yeah it might be the end of the world for many Americans.... |
| Dr. No
User ID: 335268
12/3/2007 10:54 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
November 29, 2007 Alarming Comet Swarm Warns Of Catastrophic Christmas Quake By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers When Italian astronomer Andrea Boattini announced from Arizona's MountLemmon Observatory, this past week, of his discovery of a new comet(C/2007W-Boattini), expected to be observable from Earth in June, 2008,it brought the number of new comets discovered this year to 146, andwhich, according to Sergei Smirnov, of the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, constitutes 'an historically unprecedented comet swarm'never before seen entering into our Solar System. More significantly, perhaps, of this current comet swarm entering ourSolar System is that three of these comets, 17P/Holmes, 8P/Tuttle, andBoattini will be visible to our entire World during the early months of2008. The most significant of these three comets, according to the ancients,is Comet Holmes, and whose 'sudden' and 'unexplained' explosion to over1 million times its brightness had great meaning, and as we havepreviously detailed in our October 28th report titled 'Head Of SatanStar' Sends Comet Warning To Earth" and our November 11th report titled"Warning Of Cataclysm As The 13th Sign Of The Black Sun Arrives". [It is important that I point out here that the basis of ourinterpreting these significant astrological events are not based uponthe model of Western rationalization (where our life and World areseparated into 'parts'), but rather is based upon the ancient Russianbelief system of communion, and which stresses the interrelationship ofall life.] Of even greater importance, however, is the alignment of these threecomets (Holmes-Tuttle-Boattini) between December 18-31, 2007, and which,according to the ancient calculations of the Persian Magi, presagesviolent Earth upheavals, of which the last such alignment occurred onDecember 26, 2004, during which the catastrophic Great Earthquake andTsunami occurred costing the lives of over 250,000 human beings. [Noting should also be made here that the ancient Persian Magi, knownmostly to the Western World as The Three Wise Men who followed the'star' to the baby Jesus at his birthplace in Bethlehem, were in factthe major deceivers of the early followers of The Christ propoundingtheir Zoroastrianism belief system, and spread to the Western World bytheir apostle named Paul. This necessitated the need of Jesus' firstdisciple, Saint Andrew, brother of the deceiver, and cohort of theapostle Paul, Saint Peter, to flee Judea with Jesus' family, includingMary Magdalene, to the Russias, and where he founded the RussianOrthodox Church to stand opposed to Rome.] The events of December, 2004, were presaged by the arrival of CometC/2004 Q2 (Machholz), which like Comet Boattini will reside in theSouthern Hemisphere, and like Comet Holmes in its 'brightening' will beable to be viewed by the naked eye. Equally important of these new astrological warnings being given to usfrom these Comets is the warming, also, being given of a catastrophicupheaval of our Earth by the Brazilian Seer Jucelino Nobrega da Luz[pictured top left] to the peoples of Indonesia, and as we can read asreported by the AFP News Service: "Local officials in a quake-prone Indonesian province said Monday theywere taking precautionary measures after a Brazilian psychic warned apowerful earthquake would strike next month. Husni Hassanuddin, aspokesman for Bengkulu province on Sumatra island, said the Indonesianembassy in Brasilia had passed on a letter from a "professor" andpsychic predicting a quake would rock the island on December 23. "During a recent meeting with all senior officials in Bengkulu, wedetermined a number of evacuation shelters for residents, especiallythose who live in the coastal areas," he told ElShinta radio. He saidthere would be several evacuation drills around the province prior toDecember 23."Though we call it a rumour, we take this informationseriously. We don't want people to blame us if it really happens," hesaid. Another Bengkulu official, Fauzan Rahim, told state-run Antara newsagency that he had seen a copy of the letter from Jucelino Nobrega daLuz, which predicted an 8.5-magnitude quake on Sumatra, but did not givean exact location. Sumatra is home to nine other provinces. Antara saidda Luz had sent a letter in 1998 predicting the tsunami that devastatedIndonesia in 2004. He also issued a warning in 2006 forecastingSeptember's 8.4-magnitude quake in Bengkulu, which left 23 people dead,it said." It goes without saying that to the Western peoples these warnings willgo unheeded as they have so far separated themselves from true knowledgethat their lives have become but simple shells of all they are capableof being. But, though we know our words will go unheeded they must stillbe spoken so that no man can ever make the accusation that they haven'tbeen warned. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 328104
12/3/2007 10:54 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Haven't read the thread word for word, but one thing that stood out to me looking up December 23rd on Wikipedia is, in 2007, it's the 94th anniversary of the Federal Reserve being signed into law. Essentially the downfall of America as it was originally meant to be....
Maybe we should just be thinking about the downfall of America? Maybe another planned terrorist attack? Something to cause the american economy to fall out of position?
Yeah it might be the end of the world for many Americans.... Quoting: hmmmm 335176
It's already been covered on this thread, and a few others like it. With regard to the american economy. Anything that you may see that resembles an economy is a simple facade, and has been for quite some time. Yes, the wake up call is expected soon, for those that might not already know. |
| something else...
User ID: 335176
12/3/2007 10:55 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Another interesting fact about December 23rd...
December 23rd, 1783 - George Washington resigns as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army at the Maryland State House in Annapolis, Maryland.
Hmmm.... this is getting all too weird....something's going to happen...there's too many things pointing to this time....it's going to be the end of something for sure... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335172
12/3/2007 10:59 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Haven't read the thread word for word, but one thing that stood out to me looking up December 23rd on Wikipedia is, in 2007, it's the 94th anniversary of the Federal Reserve being signed into law. Essentially the downfall of America as it was originally meant to be....
Maybe we should just be thinking about the downfall of America? Maybe another planned terrorist attack? Something to cause the american economy to fall out of position?
Yeah it might be the end of the world for many Americans.... Quoting: hmmmm 335176
Quite interesting.
BTW, you should read this thread word for word.
*Lots* of good info here... |
| Starseeder
User ID: 322788
12/3/2007 11:04 PM
| | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Another interesting fact about December 23rd...
December 23rd, 1783 - George Washington resigns as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army at the Maryland State House in Annapolis, Maryland.
Hmmm.... this is getting all too weird....something's going to happen...there's too many things pointing to this time....it's going to be the end of something for sure...
Isn't there a peace conference in Annapolis concerning the creation of a palestinian state ? Will a new covenant be made or an ancient one broken ? Hmmmmmmmmm...
Simplicity is the key to Heaven. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275504
12/3/2007 11:05 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
There are two sunspots right now.
Can no one look this stuff up to verify?
[link to www.lmsal.com] |
| Dr. No
User ID: 335268
12/3/2007 11:11 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 275504
Isnt that normal? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 328104
12/3/2007 11:13 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Isnt that normal? Quoting: Dr. No
She's gonna BLOW! LOL :) |
| Silent Night
User ID: 335176
12/3/2007 11:15 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Silent Night - was written December 24th, 1818....
Funny how it goes along with this thread so well..
read it as if the personifications are the stars/planets...
Silent night, holy night,
All is calm, all is bright
Round yon virgin mother and Child.
Holy Infant, so tender and mild,
Sleep in heavenly peace,
Sleep in heavenly peace.
Silent night, holy night,
Shepherds quake at the sight;
Glories stream from heaven afar,
Heavenly hosts sing Alleluia!
Christ the Savior is born,
Christ the Savior is born!
Silent night, holy night,
Son of God, love’s pure light;
Radiant beams from Thy holy face
With the dawn of redeeming grace,
Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth,
Jesus, Lord, at Thy birth.
Silent night, holy night
Wondrous star, lend thy light;
With the angels let us sing,
Alleluia to our King;
Christ the Savior is born,
Christ the Savior is born!
Out with the old...In with the new....=) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275504
12/3/2007 11:18 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
define normal?
it's not calm
is this normal [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
re: today
Dear RHESSI Collaborators,
The newly designated active region NOAA 10977 produced a B6 event at ~20:00 UT and A4 flare at ~12:00 UT today. This small beta region has shown signs of flux emergence over the past 24 hours. Possibility for further low-level events.
The position of NOAA 10977 on 3-Dec-2007 15:00 UT is:
S05E44, ( -675", -92" )
See [link to www.SolarMonitor.org] for images and
[link to solar.physics.montana.edu]
for a description of the current Max Millennium Observing Plan.
Regards,
Ryan Milligan (NASA/GSFC)
Received on Mon Dec 03 2007 - 08 39 MST |
| Silent Night
User ID: 335176
12/3/2007 11:19 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335176
12/3/2007 11:20 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335172
12/3/2007 11:27 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Another interesting fact about December 23rd...
December 23rd, 1783 - George Washington resigns as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army at the Maryland State House in Annapolis, Maryland.
Hmmm.... this is getting all too weird....something's going to happen...there's too many things pointing to this time....it's going to be the end of something for sure...
Isn't there a peace conference in Annapolis concerning the creation of a palestinian state ? Will a new covenant be made or an ancient one broken ? Hmmmmmmmmm...
I think the conference is ended. I haven't heard of any big agreement coming out of it.
Interestingly, there was a thread on GLP "Rabbis Warn US of Disasters to Follow Annapolis". The warning had to do with dividing Jerusalem.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Dances with Moonbeams 
User ID: 247321
12/3/2007 11:28 PM
 | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
December 23, Sunday. Lunar Standstill Cancer Full Moon (2 Cancer) and Moon occults Mars (3 Cancer near the center of the Sacred Hoop) visible in Alaska, NW Canada, Greenland, Scotland and NE Europe. Moon is tracking high across the sky so it is lighting up the long night appearing in the sky for a longer time than a Full Moon in summer when the Full Moon tracks low across the sky and the nights are short. During the Lunar Standstill years, the Moon is tracking at its highest possible point when it is in Cancer and its lowest possible point when it is in Capricorn, meaning that the Moon actually passes directly over the Galactic Edge, sending us a direct transmission from this area of the sky. This is an especially important Full Moon as it is also falling in the window of the Winter Solstice as well as being the last Full Moon to occur during the central years of the Lunar Standstill at the Galactic Edge.
Most of us know, based on our personal experience, that radical changes have been accelerated, and even though we might like to know what it means more specifically, we also know that the meaning will vary from person to person based on their individual context of experience. When we note that Galactic Center was central to Mayan cosmology, as well as Egyptian and many other ancient cultures, we know we are in a time of transformative alchemy that may reach beyond galactic proportions. The cosmology is reflecting what all the prophecies and channeled information is saying. What it means depends upon how we engage the energies because we inform the mysteries as much as they inform us and we are co-creating the New Heaven and the New Earth.
:femto:
"I am a emancipated octave of Creation that has expressed itself in holy and unholy ways."
Create your own Craft. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 288242
12/3/2007 11:28 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
none of you know when the world will end
none of you know when these crazy hypothetical situations will occur
only God knows these things |
| Starseeder
User ID: 322788
12/3/2007 11:30 PM
| | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
Another interesting fact about December 23rd...
December 23rd, 1783 - George Washington resigns as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army at the Maryland State House in Annapolis, Maryland.
Hmmm.... this is getting all too weird....something's going to happen...there's too many things pointing to this time....it's going to be the end of something for sure...
Isn't there a peace conference in Annapolis concerning the creation of a palestinian state ? Will a new covenant be made or an ancient one broken ? Hmmmmmmmmm...
I think the conference is ended. I haven't heard of any big agreement coming out of it.
Interestingly, there was a thread on GLP "Rabbis Warn US of Disasters to Follow Annapolis". The warning had to do with dividing Jerusalem.
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
You are right. It is ended. Sorry. Time for me to go to sleep.
Simplicity is the key to Heaven. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 300245
12/3/2007 11:35 PM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Bush will still be in office so expect this event to be all fucked up one way or another. |
| THE END
User ID: 335176
12/3/2007 11:49 PM | | SpaceCadet
User ID: 16644
12/4/2007 12:03 AM
 | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
I don't know, do you have any links to back it up?
The celestial event that happens on the 23rd December is a unique special event.
Comet holmes will eclipse with the moon. The Moon will perfect eclipse with Mars. The solar system will be a perfect Galactic Cross.
The Moon will be Blood red.
Venus will have 12 planets at her feet ala revelations.
The Sun will be on the cross and be at the absolute centre of the universe.
Sound familiar? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 334938
From the book "The Fate of the Nations" by Arthur Prieditis, I think its the 1974 book version.
Pages 369/370
"The prophecy of St. Odile"
"Hear, oh, hear, my sisters and brothers: I saw forests and mountains tremble. There will come a time, when war will break out, more terrible than all other wars combined, which have ever visited mankind. all nations of the earth will fight each other in the war."
"The earth will shake from the violent fighting. famine and pestilence will join the war. The nations will then cry "peace. peace," but there will be no peace. Thrice will the sun rise over the heads of the combattants, without having been seen by them."
"Strange signs will appear in the skies: both horns of the moon will join the cross. Happy will be those who will have survived the war, since the pleasures of life will begin again and the sun will have a new brilliancy."
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Interesting that the mention is made of-"Thrice will the sun rise over the heads of the combattants, without having been seen by them."- 3 days worth of darkness where the sun is not seen.
Also- "Strange signs will appear in the skies: both horns of the moon will join the cross."- the mention of a 'cross' in the heavens.
Also- "the sun will have a new brilliancy."- After the 3 days of darkness, when the Sun turns back on and shines brighter, or with a different type of illumination. |
| suzy q
User ID: 335299
12/4/2007 12:27 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Who knows about the blessed candles to be used during the three days of darkness? |
| Random Guy
User ID: 335335
12/4/2007 2:55 AM | | Re: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny | Quote |
Hmm!!!
Has observing the universe hastened its end?
- by Marcus Chown
Have we hastened the demise of the universe by looking at it? That's the startling question posed by a pair of physicists, who suggest that we may have accidentally nudged the universe closer to its death by observing dark energy, which is thought to be speeding up cosmic expansion.
Lawrence Krauss of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, and colleague James Dent suggest that by making this observation in 1998 we may have caused the universe to revert to a state similar to early in its history, when it was more likely to end. "Incredible as it seems, our detection of the dark energy may have reduced the life-expectancy of the universe," says Krauss.
The researchers came to their conclusion by calculating how the energy state of our universe might have evolved. Until recently, cosmologists thought that the big bang 13.7 billion years ago occurred after a bubble of weird high-energy "false vacuum" with repulsive gravity decayed into a zero-energy "ordinary" vacuum. The energy released during this transition could have made matter and heated it to a ferocious temperature, which essentially created the massive explosion of the big bang. The discovery of dark energy - and the realisation that the universe's expansion is accelerating - reveals that the vacuum may not have decayed to zero energy, but to another false vacuum state. In other words, some energy was retained in this vacuum, and this is accelerating the universe's expansion.
Like the decay of a radioactive atom, such shifts in energy state happen at random. "So it is entirely possible it could decay again, wiping the slate of our universe clean," says Krauss. If this transition did happen, everything in our universe would cease to exist.
The fact that we are still here means this can't have happened yet. But cosmologists have long puzzled over why this should be, particularly as the probability of the false vacuum of our universe having survived decreases exponentially over time.
Building on a discovery made in the 1950s, Krauss's calculations show that if the universe did happen to hold out past a certain threshold, its chance of staying stable are substantially increased. In 1958, Russian physicist L. Khalfin discovered that after an extremely long time, the probability of a quantum system having survived stops falling exponentially and switches to a slower rate of decline. This means that if the false vacuum of the universe survives to the switching point between the two rates, it will effectively become eternal. This is because the false vacuum is known to grow exponentially fast, and past the switching point it will be created faster than it can be eaten away by any decay, he says.
According to Krauss, the smaller the energy gap between the false vacuum and zero, the earlier the switching point between the two rates. And - surprise, surprise - we live in a universe where the vacuum energy is just above zero, so we could be well past the crucial switching point.
At first glance, this seems like good news for us because it would mean our universe is on track to survive forever. However, things may not be as good as they seem, Krauss says. At the quantum level, whenever we observe or measure something, we reset its clock and stop it decaying - something known as the quantum Zeno effect. Our measurement of the light from supernovae in 1998, which provided evidence of dark energy, may have reset the false vacuum's decay clock to zero - back to a point when the likelihood of its surviving was falling exponentially over time. "In short, we may have snatched away the possibility of long-term survival for our universe and made it more likely it will decay," says Krauss.
“The measurement of dark energy may have reverted the universe to a state when it was more likely to end”
Krauss's claim is controversial. Max Tegmark of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology maintains that the quantum Zeno effect does not require humans to make observations of light. "Galaxies have 'observed' the dark energy long before we evolved," he says, as they were affected by it and were encoding information about it. "When we humans in turn observe the light from these galaxies, it changes nothing except our own knowledge." |
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