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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336139

United States
12/7/2007 12:18 PM

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don't forget fundamentalist muslims were blamed but, the "terrorists" were party boys who did things fundamentalist muslims would never do

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357012

Germany
1/17/2008 10:44 AM

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His imagination will only see those every object and the traits which favor that conspiracy theory.
All other factual information that conflicts with his theory will be swept aside, discredited and those who proposed nthe information will be scrutinized.

But, It is always better to have no ideas than false ones. To believe nothing is better than to believe what is wrong.

~copied from another~

Quoting: a thought 310071

awesome op
and you can see how angry and violent some tend to be when they are confronted by 'non-believers'
they act like moslims and want to cut your head off geee.

link please I'd like to see where that came from.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356936

Spain
1/17/2008 10:54 AM

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The moment a person forms a theory, his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. -Thomas Jefferson Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336570 Thomas Jefferson must be biased too in this theory he puts forward, or otherwise the theory is wrong.

Anonymous Coward
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United Kingdom
1/17/2008 11:11 AM

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Anonymous Coward
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1/17/2008 11:14 AM

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An unfounded theory based on illusion is nothing more than an attack against the one the theory is directed at.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5174

United States
1/17/2008 11:42 AM

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The moment a person forms a theory, his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory.
-Thomas Jefferson

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336570

THEN THE WORD APOSTATE WOULD NEVER EXIST.

PEOPLE FREQUENTLY CHANGE THEIR PERSPECTIVE BASED ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS. "BELIEF" IN AN ORTHODOXY- THAT WHICH CANNOT ALLOW DISSENT OR DOUBT- IS USUALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME BECAUSE SO MUCH OF AN ARTHODOXY IS BASED UP FAITH RATHER THAN EMPIRICAL DATA. I PERSONALLY LEAN TOWARDS A BELIEF IN THE EXISTANCE OF 'GOD' BUT I HAVE VERY, VERY LITTLE EMPIRICAL DATA UPON WHICH TO BASE THAT BELIEFE, I DO HOWEVER HAVE A VERY STRONG SENSE THAT IT IS 'TRUE'. CAN I PROVE IT SCIENTIFICALLY? OF COURSE NOT AND SO I TRY VERY HARD TO KEEP IT PERSONAL AND ONLY DISCUSS IT AMONG LIKE BELIEVERS OR IF ASKED A DIRECT QUESTION. I DON'T PROSELYTIZE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TRYING TO STEER SOMEONE TOWARDS A BELIEF BASED SOLEY ON MY INTUITION REGARDLESS OF HOW STRONGLY I BELIEVE IN IT.

9/11 IS SIMILAR IN THAT THE OFFICIAL ACCOUNT AS SUPPORTED BY AND ADVANCED THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT AND MSM IS NOT DEMONSTRABLY FACTUAL. THERE ARE MORE HOLES THAN FABRIC, MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS AND THE RESPONSE TO THOSE QUESTIONS IS NOT SCIENTIFIC INQUIRY, BUT AN ENDLESS SET OF QUALIFICATIONS (IT'S CLASSIFIED, IT'S A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY, WE CAN'T KEEP THAT MUCH EVIDENCE SO WE WERE FORCED TO DESTROY IT, ETC)AD HOMINEM ATTACKS (YOU'RE A CONSPIRACY THEORIST, YOU WEAR TINFOIL HATS, YOU HATE AMERICA, YOU TAKE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS FROM ALQAEDA)OR FLAT OUT FALSEHOODS (FLIGHT 175 DEPARTED FROM POINT A, TRAVELLED THE FOLLOWING FLIGH PATH AND STRUCK THE WTC AT THIS SPECIFIC TIME, MAKING THE AIRSPEED CLOSE TO 200KPH FASTER THAN A 737 CAN FLY AT THE REPORTED ALTITUDE. ALIMINUM AIRFRAMES CAN SLICE THROUGH STRUCTURAL STEEL I-BEAMS WITHOUT CONFORMING TO NEWTON'S THIRD LAW).

WHY WOULD I BE ANY MORE LIKELY TO ACCEPT ON FACE VALUE WHAT IS CLEARLY A DOGMA RELAYED BY ONE SET OF PEOPLE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HOLD ELECTED OFFICIALS IF THEY ARE EQUALLY UNMOVED TO PROVE SCIENTIFICALLY THEIR CONTENTION? ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS OR THE MSM INHERENTLY MORE HONEST THAN SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO CHALLENGE THEM? THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS ENOUGH TO BRING A SMILE TO ANY COGENT THINKERS FACE- OF COURSE THEY AREN'T, IN FACT THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG, HAVE MISLED OR OUTRIGHT LIED SO OFTEN AND WITH SUCH ARROGANCE FOR SO LONG, I AM INCLINED TO MISTRUST ANYTHING THEY SAY EVEN IF IT IS SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS I CAN SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFY IT FOR MYSELF.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 353077

United Kingdom
1/17/2008 11:51 AM

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Apart from what one has experienced firsthand, our world-view is made up of received opinions and second hand facts. To accept these as real, we need to TRUST or FAITH in the good intentions, moral character, and sanity of intermediaries and society at large.

This is all that the 'conspiracy' folks are saying! - that they have become convinced that those, they believe are shaping opinion are deceivers.

Or that they have come to trust people that are in fact deceivers more than those who tell the truth.

It isn't about peering at some grainy video and intuiting that skulldugerry is afoot! - because I look at the same video and see it as perfectly normal!

Your picture of the world, determined by who you trust or have faith in!

A society can only function - according to the level of trust that people have in each other - thats why is why professionals wear suits, it inspires more trust! that is the reason that one society outperforms another - more is possible because they have faith in each other!

So.. who are the world biggest conspiracy believers?
Who are the worlds least productive, least democratic, most argumentative, least trusting people?
Which people are in perpetual conflict with their neighbours every where in the world?

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 206814

United States
1/17/2008 12:05 PM

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God I fucking hate the term "conspiracy theory".

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322489

Amen. The term 'conspiracy theory' is another one of those gems from the Merry Christmas Institute in London that was put into usage as to ridicule any person searching for truth. This includes any open research into 'conspiracies' from the JFK assasination to 9/11.

What one man's truth is another man's baloney. Why is it that most people simply believe MSM's crap about anything. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES! Someone else is doing it for them and they accept everything they hear and see on the boob tube as fact!

There's another one of those term - boob tube. Just suck off mommy's (mainsteam news) mammary glands and everything is OKAY - for they would NEVER LIE TO YOU WOULD THEY?

When I'm attacked with the words 'conspiracy theorist', I just say 'Why THANK YOU!' At least I'm doing my part on finding out just what the hell is really going on behind the curtain. Yep, I know there's one helluva a lot of disinformation out there and that the CIA and all the alphabet agencies are crawling all over the place.

My BS detector is always on 'alert'. But if you dig, I mean really dig, you'll be delighted when the pieces fit together and why things happen the way they do. It's one of those rare Eureka! moments in your life.

Knowledge is power. Absolute power. Find it while there is time. Otherwise, if you're really worried why Britney didn't show up for her custody hearing, the game is over for you.

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