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MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY
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It's a setup!
User ID: 336069
12/7/2007 1:58 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4776
12/7/2007 1:58 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
JEUDI 6 DÉCEMBRE 2007
Shooting in Nebraska mall actually a Presidential assassination attempt?
An interesting article by Sorcha Faal (take it with a grain of salt, but the "Teddy Bear" info is dead on): "US Secret Service Omaha gun battle leaves 9 dead"
Remember the ridiculous story of the "teddy bear" being named "Muhammad"? Strange timing, huh? Another codeword to watch out for in the media...
POSTED BY JB AT 10:36
3 COMMENTS:
JB said...
Apparently, the "teddy bear" quote is no longer present on the site that the article links to, but just Google "teddy bear Nebraska mall shooting", and you'll get plenty of articles still mentioning it (hopefully, their "teddy bear" quotes won't get deleted as well in the hours to come).
6 DÉCEMBRE 2007 11:19
FilmNoir23 said...
Bush was in Omaha yesterday
[link to www.whitehouse.gov]
6 DÉCEMBRE 2007 12:20
William Ray Thuther said...
Just the coincidence that he was in Omaha on the same day as that shooting is incredible, and if I didn't read the press release, it would be hard to believe (although I guess it shouldn't be).
[link to metalogiccafe.blogspot.com] |
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Colonel Freedom
User ID: 336415
12/7/2007 2:01 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously Quoting: malu
It takes our military 4000 rounds to kill 1 combatant in Iraq. If you are such a sharpshooter, join the military and become a weapons instructor. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 285913
12/7/2007 2:01 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
Some details on CNN at gunfire at South Mall in allentown breaking |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5174
12/7/2007 2:02 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
Here's what I noticed. Some videotapes were released, but they ONLY showed cowering and cowed shoppers being herded by heavily armed and military clad "police" officers using automatic weapons.
It's a means of conditioning us, even if it was a random act. The fact that this guy was a ward of the state, was medicated and supervised by the state and then just let loose indicates that there is a great deal of culpability on the state, but don't expect that angle to be addressed anywhere mainstream.
Just a crazy white man with an "assault rifle" and the State- in the form of kevelar helmeted, camo wearing automatic weapon (the real assault rifles) toting looking out for the consumers.
Tell me I'm wrong.
well, first off, he was a crazy kid..not a man. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 260371
18 is a man. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 260371
12/7/2007 2:03 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
18 is not a man.
18 is still a kid. |
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malu 
User ID: 321190
12/7/2007 2:04 PM
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an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously
It takes our military 4000 rounds to kill 1 combatant in Iraq. If you are such a sharpshooter, join the military and become a weapons instructor. Quoting: Colonel Freedom 336415
actually it takes one million rounds, i served thank you
just looking at the pics again on cnn, what struck me as odd was the camera would have to be at face level to get that shot, have you ever seen a camera at that level? the ones i have seen are all above head level, looking down,, seems really odd |
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hmmm
User ID: 336069
12/7/2007 2:05 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
a new photo of the kid in the store:
[link to i.l.cnn.net]
I still think he looks tottaly different then the shooter:
[link to i.l.cnn.net]
The shooter looks different in my opinion....
Hmm...is that a pentagram shirt he's wearing?
Quoting: It's a setup! 336069 |
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Colonel Freedom
User ID: 336415
12/7/2007 2:07 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5174
12/7/2007 2:07 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
My guess is that whether engineered or not, the use of these events will lead to a TSA like environment out in the public sphere in the not too distant future. Expect automatic weapons toting heavily kevlared "cops" walking around the malls and streets near you soon-
[link to cryptogon.com]
Via: Popular Mechanics:
No one sees them coming. There are no flashing lights, no sirens. The black Suburban simply glides out of Fifth Avenue traffic and pulls into a no-parking zone in front of the Empire State Building. Moments later, four men spill out in combat helmets and heavy body armor: Two carry submachine guns; the others, snub-nosed shotguns.
Camera-toting tourists stop jabbering and stare at this intimidating new presence, their faces a mixture of curiosity and fear. Even jaded New Yorkers, many of whom work inside the midtown Manhattan landmark, look impressed.
A stone’s throw down the sidewalk, Abad Nieves watches the scene unfold. Nieves is a detective with the Intelligence Division of the New York Police Department (NYPD). Casually clad in slacks and a black leather jacket, he monitors the response of people loitering in the area. Is anyone making notes or videotaping? Does anyone seem especially startled by the out-of-the-blue appearance of a heavily armed NYPD squad?
On this day, Nieves doesn’t see anything overly suspicious, but he is pleased that the deployment created a strong impression. Known as a Hercules team, it makes multiple appearances around the city each day. The locations are chosen either in response to specific intelligence or simply to provide a show of force at high-profile sites.
“The response we usually get is, ‘Holy s—!’” Nieves says. “That’s the reaction we want. We are in the business of scaring people–we just want to scare the right people.”
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“Clearly, New York is way in front on this,” says Brian Michael Jenkins, a terrorism expert with the Rand Corp. “As the threat gets more diffused, we are going to have less of the kind of intelligence that can be picked up by the feds. We are dealing now with threats that are deliberately operating under the radar. Therefore, we have to aim the radar lower, to the local level.” |
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setup
User ID: 336069
12/7/2007 2:07 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
also check out that small path of hair on the shooter's chin?
it isn't on the other photo of the kid walking the store...
could just be a bad image...i suppose..i dobut it thou
a new photo of the kid in the store:
[ link to i.l.cnn.net]
I still think he looks tottaly different then the shooter:
[ link to i.l.cnn.net]
The shooter looks different in my opinion....
Hmm...is that a pentagram shirt he's wearing?
Let's compare.
The kid they say who did the shooting:
[ link to newsimg.bbc.co.uk]
The person who is on video camera footage doing the shooting:
[ link to i.l.cnn.net]
They look tottaly different. What a setup! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 771
12/7/2007 2:12 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
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updated 3:59 p.m. ET, Wed., Dec. 5, 2007
OMAHA, Neb. - A viewer photo shows a man in handcuffs after shots were fired inside the Von Maur store at Westroads Mall on Wednesday afternoon.
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Earlier, police said a young black man was being sought as the suspected shooter. A description of the shooter, broadcast over scanners, was that he was in an Army-green vest and was holding a rifle. The viewer's photo showed a young black man in fatigues surrounded by police and apparently in handcuffs. Police have not yet confirmed an arrest. It was reported by KETV crews that the man in fatigues was found under a bus bench.
KETV NewsWatch 7's Carol Kloss said she could see a man in cuffs and a black, hooded sweatshirt surrounded by police.
Witness reports vary widely. Jennifer Kramer, a witness, said she heard 35 to 40 shots as she was taking cover inside the mall. A Westroads kiosk worker, Kathy, told KETV NewsWatch 7 that she heard three pops. She said a Bath and Body Works manager approached her and told her to get out of the mall hallway as there was a situation, and a shooter had not been located.
Another witness said he heard four or five shots in rapid succession. Shawn Vidlak said he was told while he was inside the mall that as many as five people had been injured.
An elderly man was found near an escalator in the store. Early indications were that as many as five people may be injured. At 2:30 p.m., four stretchers were seen with victims on them being taken out of the store. Two more stretchers were in place at the doors.
Colby Barak told KETV NewsWatch 7 that she was on lockdown inside Westroads Mall. She said she was doing Christmas shopping at Younkers, and an announcement was made that no one would be allowed to leave.
Just before 2 p.m., Barrett said, another announcement was made that shoppers could leave but would not be allowed back in. Barrett said she believes she saw a deceased man inside the mall.
A group of paramedics made their way into Von Maur at about 2:25 p.m.
Doug, a shopper at the mall, said police are restricting the movements of people inside the mall.
Outside the mall, shoppers were seen leaving with their hands over their heads.
Inside a first-floor dressing room at Von Maur, Julie used her cell phone to call KETV NewsWatch 7 and report that she was with a group of girls and they were scared. Julie said she heard noise getting closer, but she didn't know what had happened. She said she went out of the dressing room and saw other people in the store running and laying down, so she went back into the dressing room.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 260371
12/7/2007 2:13 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
i heard that shit about the park bench too. wtf is going on? |
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funny
User ID: 336069
12/7/2007 2:13 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
funny cnn i think is reading this site and changing their shit when I say something..they just updated to an animated gif...
[link to i.l.cnn.net]
the kid who entered the mall..isnt the same person doing the shooting...can anyone else see that? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335502
12/7/2007 2:15 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336769
12/7/2007 1:58 PM
I did not like to see little old ladies scurrying along with their arms raised over their heads as they were being herded out of the building. How assanine! They hardly looked the part of a gang of pistol-packin' mamas that just shot up the store! The MALE shooters will still inside the building.
To another poster, I have on file a picture taken at VA Tech of kids in a classroom, hiding behind the furniture. The pic was found at the school paper's website. It may have been taken by a student with a cell phone, but who's to say there aren't cameras in those classrooms?
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Pit Viper
Thought Criminal
User ID: 335160
12/7/2007 2:15 PM
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First off, the picture in the cnn link looks completely different than the one they have been showing on TV.
Second, all the eyewitness said the guy had a short military style hair cut. Neither pic show that.
Third, why was there FBI and Homeland security in the mall at the time the shooting happened? Is it really a coincidence as the media wants us to believe??
Scor~Pios -AKA- Pit Viper
'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
Thomas Jefferson
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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pissedoff
User ID: 283256
12/7/2007 2:19 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
Just another staged government psyop people move along. Just like Virginia Tech there were 'others' arrested but 'disappeared'. These are the government 'handlers' that push these 'subjects' to explode and are conveniently removed from the script (although pictures still exist online). Same with Columbine. There are still sealed records from that incident. This is part of the big push to disarm the public going into martial law. Look for one more incident before Christmas to spur legislation/fear mongering. |
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Femto
User ID: 336721
12/7/2007 2:20 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
Police Release Images of Mall Gunman
) - In the first surveillance images released of a teenage gunman's shopping mall rampage, the shaggy-haired assailant can be seen raising an assault rifle to fire in front of a department store mannequin.
Police released three still images Friday, two days after Robert A. Hawkins killed eight people and himself at Westroads Mall's Von Maur store.
The images at first show Hawkins walking into the mall unarmed, wearing glasses, a black zippered sweat shirt over what appears to be a black Jack Daniel's T-shirt. Six minutes later, he returns and strides through an entrance decked with holiday decorations, an apparent bulge under his clothing. In the last image, he is shown with his sleeves rolled up, aiming the AK-47 to fire.
The images appear to contradict earlier reports that the gunman had a military-style haircut and entered the mall wearing a camouflage vest.
[link to story.news.ask.com]
Love x |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 260371
12/7/2007 2:23 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
Just another staged government psyop people move along. Just like Virginia Tech there were 'others' arrested but 'disappeared'. These are the government 'handlers' that push these 'subjects' to explode and are conveniently removed from the script (although pictures still exist online). Same with Columbine. There are still sealed records from that incident. This is part of the big push to disarm the public going into martial law. Look for one more incident before Christmas to spur legislation/fear mongering. Quoting: pissedoff 283256
beginning to agree with you.
SCOTUS rules this summer. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 290530
12/7/2007 2:27 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
What about the Tall dude in CAMO- ARMY clothes? Where did he vansih to? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336789
12/7/2007 2:30 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
Does everything have to be a damn conspiracy to you loons? You can't just accept the fact the same kid went crazy and shot up the mall? You have to involve the government somehow? Get lives people. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 310451
12/7/2007 2:30 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
WELL, HAS ANYONE AT ALL FIGURED OUT HOW HE IS SUPPOSED TO SHOOT AND KILL HIMSELF WITH A RIFLE?
SUICIDE BY RIFLE IS DIFFICULT...ONE CAN HARDLY REACH THE TRIGGER IF HELD TO THE HEAD...AND OF COURSE, NO AIM IS POSSIBLE...
ANY ERGONOMIC FOLKS OUT THERE
THE RIFLE ACCORDING TO ALEX PHY-OPS JONES WAS AN SKS WITH TAPED TOGETHER CLIPS... |
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malu
User ID: 321190
12/7/2007 2:31 PM
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an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously
Im sure the shooter is sorry he disappointed you. What an insensitive thing to say. Do you think about what you say?
This has psy op written all over it.
You should know what is going on, but I'm going let you wonder until you come to the same conclusion Quoting: IDW 336701
grow a dick,, seriously |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 290530
12/7/2007 2:32 PM | | Re: MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY | Quote |
WHERE IS THE DAMN CAMO THAT WITNESSES REPORTED SEEING THE GUNMAN WEAR? |
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Pit Viper
Thought Criminal
User ID: 335160
12/7/2007 2:32 PM
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Scor~Pios -AKA- Pit Viper
'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
Thomas Jefferson
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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Awakened Me
User ID: 329327
12/7/2007 2:32 PM
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give up your guns and the shootings will stop Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17960
give up your guns and the only people who have them will be the "criminals"
its not like gun control is gonna stop any violence or crime. people get guns illegally all the time.
if you take the people's right to guns away, all hell will break loose, this i promise you
In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them.
This is the Cosm. This is both I and You.
I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine! |
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malu
User ID: 321190
12/7/2007 2:33 PM
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give up your guns and the shootings will stop
give up your guns and the only people who have them will be the "criminals"
its not like gun control is gonna stop any violence or crime. people get guns illegally all the time.
if you take the people's right to guns away, all hell will break loose, this i promise you Quoting: Awakened Me
look no further than australia |
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Pit Viper
Thought Criminal
User ID: 335160
12/7/2007 2:34 PM
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I asked yesterday, and today, and I will ask again,
WHY WAS HOMELAND SECURITY AND FBI AGENTS ALREADY IN THE MALL AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING?????????
Scor~Pios -AKA- Pit Viper
'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
Thomas Jefferson
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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malu
User ID: 321190
12/7/2007 2:36 PM
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I asked yesterday, and today, and I will ask again,
WHY WAS HOMELAND SECURITY AND FBI AGENTS ALREADY IN THE MALL AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING????????? Quoting: Pit Viper
probably the same reason they were at the oklahoma city bombing, the BATF was the first on the scene |
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Pit Viper
Thought Criminal
User ID: 335160
12/7/2007 2:39 PM
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I asked yesterday, and today, and I will ask again,
WHY WAS HOMELAND SECURITY AND FBI AGENTS ALREADY IN THE MALL AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING?????????
probably the same reason they were at the oklahoma city bombing, the BATF was the first on the scene Quoting: malu
No, they were in the mall already before he started shooting. this was reported on MSNBC yesterday.
Supposedly they were speaking to the mall security personal about their security. All seems alittle too coincidental to me.
Scor~Pios -AKA- Pit Viper
'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
Thomas Jefferson
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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