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MALL SHOOTING MYSTERY

 
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Let's compare.

The kid they say who did the shooting:
[link to newsimg.bbc.co.uk]

The person who is on video camera footage doing the shooting:
[link to i.l.cnn.net]

They look tottaly different. What a setup!
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man you can't tell the difference, the mall pic is blurry as shit.
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I asked yesterday, and today, and I will ask again,
WHY WAS HOMELAND SECURITY AND FBI AGENTS ALREADY IN THE MALL AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING?????????
 Quoting: Pit Viper


Bush was supposed to visit the mall, no?
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I asked yesterday, and today, and I will ask again,
WHY WAS HOMELAND SECURITY AND FBI AGENTS ALREADY IN THE MALL AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING?????????



probably the same reason they were at the oklahoma city bombing, the BATF was the first on the scene

No, they were in the mall already before he started shooting. this was reported on MSNBC yesterday.
Supposedly they were speaking to the mall security personal about their security. All seems alittle too coincidental to me.
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i know, i am agreeing with you
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously


It takes our military 4000 rounds to kill 1 combatant in Iraq. If you are such a sharpshooter, join the military and become a weapons instructor.



actually it takes one million rounds, i served thank you


just looking at the pics again on cnn, what struck me as odd was the camera would have to be at face level to get that shot, have you ever seen a camera at that level? the ones i have seen are all above head level, looking down,, seems really odd
 Quoting: malu


shit, you're totally right. fuck! i'm sick of these muthafuckers thinking they can keep puttin one over on us!
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Inside a first-floor dressing room at Von Maur, Julie used her cell phone to call KETV NewsWatch 7 and report that she was with a group of girls and they were scared. Julie said she heard noise getting closer, but she didn't know what had happened. She said she went out of the dressing room and saw other people in the store running and laying down, so she went back into the dressing room.

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Are you kidding me? this group of girls has KETV on speed dial ? Wouldnt you call 911 in this situation?
malu

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an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously


It takes our military 4000 rounds to kill 1 combatant in Iraq. If you are such a sharpshooter, join the military and become a weapons instructor.



actually it takes one million rounds, i served thank you


just looking at the pics again on cnn, what struck me as odd was the camera would have to be at face level to get that shot, have you ever seen a camera at that level? the ones i have seen are all above head level, looking down,, seems really odd


shit, you're totally right. fuck! i'm sick of these muthafuckers thinking they can keep puttin one over on us!
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so how odd is that , that they would have a face level camera and just the right spot? unreal? yes, by my estimates
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair.
what i think happened...
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I think the kid who everyone is blaming for the shooting was killed in the mall by the shooter..and the shooter put on his clothes and started shooting people...
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LIGHTBULB:
we can call the mall, the stores in the mall, talk to managers, employees, etc. someone will talk, someone will tell us what really went down.
how much do you wana bet there was more than one shooter?

i bet you all a million dollars that sorcha's story is right on the money.
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Inside a first-floor dressing room at Von Maur, Julie used her cell phone to call KETV NewsWatch 7 and report that she was with a group of girls and they were scared. Julie said she heard noise getting closer, but she didn't know what had happened. She said she went out of the dressing room and saw other people in the store running and laying down, so she went back into the dressing room.


Are you kidding me? this group of girls has KETV on speed dial ? Wouldnt you call 911 in this situation?
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wtf!! what story was this in?
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The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair.
 Quoting: compare pictures... 336069


Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store?

Did I miss anything?
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Hmmm...that head on face level shot is interesting. I've installed about a bazillion security cameras in commercial buildings, and never once in a position to capture an image like that.

Also, they were reporting on the radio last night he used an SKS, but that is definitely an AK.
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The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair.


Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store?

Did I miss anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174



I guess that about sums it up. Oh, except you forgot to add Federal agents were already in the mall. You know thats their new hangout.
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The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair.


Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store?

Did I miss anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174


It was an AK. Look at the front iron sight.
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an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously
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Question for you Malu.

Are you THE Malu from the west coast ?

Every time I read your replies, every time I see your posts... I think dammit man, are you THE Malu ? for real ? here on GLP ? If not, my apologise, but if so....Hot Dammit dude ! awesomeness.

As for piss poor shooting, nine from 30 is like... dammit even the air force cooks can shoot better !
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Does everything have to be a damn conspiracy to you loons? You can't just accept the fact the same kid went crazy and shot up the mall? You have to involve the government somehow? Get lives people.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously


Question for you Malu.

Are you THE Malu from the west coast ?

Every time I read your replies, every time I see your posts... I think dammit man, are you THE Malu ? for real ? here on GLP ? If not, my apologise, but if so....Hot Dammit dude ! awesomeness.

As for piss poor shooting, nine from 30 is like... dammit even the air force cooks can shoot better !
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?? i have always been Malu on this forum and several others, west coast of michigan, it is a nick derived from an old brazilian girlfriend, i have never heard that name used anywhere else

anywho, that was my point, if you are shooting fish in a barrel you should get ALL the fish, but apparently only specific fish were targeted,, odd
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair.


Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store?

Did I miss anything?


It was an AK. Look at the front iron sight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336415



SKS Model 56-

[link to i23.photobucket.com]

AK 47 is fully auto, where'd an unemployed former McDonalds worker/ward of the state get the $ for a fully auto- and illegal I might add- AK?

I don't think so. You can pick up a model 56 for $150.

One other point, not that it means anything, but a nice looking young man, already a ward of the state, on perscription meds in the Omaha area?

[link to www.franklingate.com]

Franklingate ring any bells?
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It would be more likely for a psyc-op they would hide the identity of the shooter and SAY it was a terrorist.

Why would anyone conspire to blame the kid??
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The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting:

[link to i.l.cnn.net]



They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair.


Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store?

Did I miss anything?


It was an AK. Look at the front iron sight.



SKS Model 56-

[link to i23.photobucket.com]

AK 47 is fully auto, where'd an unemployed former McDonalds worker/ward of the state get the $ for a fully auto- and illegal I might add- AK?

I don't think so. You can pick up a model 56 for $150.

One other point, not that it means anything, but a nice looking young man, already a ward of the state, on perscription meds in the Omaha area?

[link to www.franklingate.com]

Franklingate ring any bells?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174



first, that pic of the SKS is with an aftermarket extended mag,20 rounder, not standard issue
second, the pics i have seen it is clearly an AK, which btw, do come in semi automatic, by far the majority of them in the USA come in semi auto, $300 is a normal price
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Israel's Mossad

"The truth shall set you free."

U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto
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The gun the kid is holding in the CNN picture is an AK.
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[link to story.news.ask.com]

Look at the three pics. First pic shows him with gun raised and no time. Second pic shows him entering mall at 13:42:33, third pic shows him in mall moments before shooting started time 13:36:27. How does he enter mall after he is already in there? Why does the first pic not have a time on it? All surveillance videos have a time.
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You can't possibly be talking about the one posted on this thread, there's no way you can call what piece that is from that blurry ass photo- and I won't argue the point, I only know that I heard SKS on the news the first day- a single shot weapon- and AK every day since, which suggests mmedia manipulation to INFER assault weapon.

And anyone who is going to argue after market alterations off a photo like that- jesus dude, get a job with Jayne's because you have a gift.
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More BS posted on this bogus site.
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You can't possibly be talking about the one posted on this thread, there's no way you can call what piece that is from that blurry ass photo- and I won't argue the point, I only know that I heard SKS on the news the first day- a single shot weapon- and AK every day since, which suggests mmedia manipulation to INFER assault weapon.

And anyone who is going to argue after market alterations off a photo like that- jesus dude, get a job with Jayne's because you have a gift.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174

There is a major difference in front sight profiles between an SKS and an AK, owning both, I can tell the difference, even in that blurry photo. The AK sight is much taller, as is the gas tube and rear sight sitting on top of that.
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More BS posted on this bogus site.
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then please leave. PLEASE LEAVE. okay? PLEASE JUST FUCKING LEAVE!
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You can't possibly be talking about the one posted on this thread, there's no way you can call what piece that is from that blurry ass photo- and I won't argue the point, I only know that I heard SKS on the news the first day- a single shot weapon- and AK every day since, which suggests mmedia manipulation to INFER assault weapon.

And anyone who is going to argue after market alterations off a photo like that- jesus dude, get a job with Jayne's because you have a gift.

There is a major difference in front sight profiles between an SKS and an AK, owning both, I can tell the difference, even in that blurry photo. The AK sight is much taller, as is the gas tube and rear sight sitting on top of that.
 Quoting: Evil Twin


I own one and have used the other, so I am not unfamiliar, my question to you is where are you looking at this definitive photo, because the only one I have seen of the weapon is the one with him holding up the rifle in the single undated/timestamped image and that isn't clear enough to make that determination. Where do you see the rear sight or gas tube?

Anyway, I went to look at the directory for the mall and there is no "Ready To Wear", so what's that on the camera?

[link to www.westroadsmall.com]

Where exactly is the kid entering?
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[link to story.news.ask.com]

Look at the three pics. First pic shows him with gun raised and no time. Second pic shows him entering mall at 13:42:33, third pic shows him in mall moments before shooting started time 13:36:27. How does he enter mall after he is already in there? Why does the first pic not have a time on it? All surveillance videos have a time.
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SPOT....ON!!!
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[link to story.news.ask.com]

Look at the three pics. First pic shows him with gun raised and no time. Second pic shows him entering mall at 13:42:33, third pic shows him in mall moments before shooting started time 13:36:27. How does he enter mall after he is already in there? Why does the first pic not have a time on it? All surveillance videos have a time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 320730


thankyou, this is basically hard evidence that this whole thing is rigged. good work.

he's right people, it shows the "shooter" walking into the mall after the shootings took place, look at the times.

WTF

how much longer are we going to let this shit keep happening?


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