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The true meaning behind the word "LUCIFER". Lucifer is just a name for "VENUS".

 
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The word "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 presents a minor problem to mainstream Christianity. It becomes a much larger problem to Bible literalists, and becomes a huge obstacle for the claims of Mormonism. John J. Robinson in A Pilgrim's Path, pp. 47-48 explains:

"Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"
Listen to Isaiah - Chapter 14 (King James Version) from blueletterbible.org.

The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language? To find the answer, I consulted a scholar at the library of the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati. What Hebrew name, I asked, was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell?

The answer was a surprise. In the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference. The Hebrew scholar could only speculate that some early Christian scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name "Lucifer."

Why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King").

The scholars authorized by ... King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated ... largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and --- ironically --- the Prince of Darkness.

So "Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. That can be confusing for Christians who identify Christ himself as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many Christian sermons. Jesus refers to himself as the morning star in Revelation 22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

And so there are those who do not read beyond the King James version of the Bible, who say 'Lucifer is Satan: so says the Word of God'...."

Henry Neufeld (a Christian who comments on Biblical sticky issues) went on to say,

"this passage is often related to Satan, and a similar thought is expressed in Luke 10:18 by Jesus, that was not its first meaning. It's primary meaning is given in Isaiah 14:4 which says that when Israel is restored they will "take up this taunt against the king of Babylon . . ." Verse 12 is a part of this taunt song. This passage refers first to the fall of that earthly king...

How does the confusion in translating this verse arise? The Hebrew of this passage reads: "heleyl, ben shachar" which can be literally translated "shining one, son of dawn." This phrase means, again literally, the planet Venus when it appears as a morning star. In the Septuagint, a 3rd century BC translation of the Hebrew scriptures into Greek, it is translated as "heosphoros" which also means Venus as a morning star.

How did the translation "lucifer" arise? This word comes from Jerome's Latin Vulgate. Was Jerome in error? Not at all. In Latin at the time, "lucifer" actually meant Venus as a morning star. Isaiah is using this metaphor for a bright light, though not the greatest light to illustrate the apparent power of the Babylonian king which then faded."

Therefore, Lucifer wasn't equated with Satan until after Jerome. Jerome wasn't in error. Later Christians (and Mormons) were in equating "Lucifer" with "Satan".

So why is this a problem to Christians? Christians now generally believe that Satan (or the Devil or Lucifer who they equate with Satan) is a being who has always existed (or who was created at or near the "beginning"). Therefore, they also think that the 'prophets' of the Old Testament believed in this creature. The Isaiah scripture is used as proof (and has been used as such for hundreds of years now). As Elaine Pagels explains though, the concept of Satan has evolved over the years and the early Bible writers didn't believe in or teach such a doctrine.

The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term: 'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in Revelation 22:16.

So why is Lucifer a far bigger problem to Mormons? Mormons claim that an ancient record (the Book of Mormon) was written beginning in about 600 BC, and the author in 600 BC supposedly copied Isaiah in Isaiah's original words. When Joseph Smith pretended to translate the supposed 'ancient record', he included the Lucifer verse in the Book of Mormon. Obviously he wasn't copying what Isaiah actually wrote. He was copying the King James Version of the Bible. Another book of LDS scripture, the Doctrine & Covenants, furthers this problem in 76:26 when it affirms the false Christian doctrine that "Lucifer" means Satan. This incorrect doctrine also spread into a third set of Mormon scriptures, the Pearl of Great Price, which describes a war in heaven based, in part, on Joseph Smith's incorrect interpretation of the word "Lucifer" which only appears in Isaiah.

A Mormon apologist responds.

The author of The Polytheism Of The Bible And The Mystery Of Lucifer, F.T. DeAngelis, comments on this page as follows

"It seems minor, but - the actual term used in the Greek Septuagint version of Isaiah 14:12 (given that there is no ONE way of accurately transliterating) is Eo(u)s phoros, morning star/DAWN god of light.

Eos or Eous phoros [not Heos (as your website claims) or phos phorus (as a Christian website I visited shows)] - although there is a Greek term and English... phosphoro(u)s. Your [site] is pretty accurate.

The actual name, "Lucifer," goes back to the Greeks, before the Romans. Socrates and Plato talk about this "god of light"; surprisingly, not in the context of Eos (god of Dawn), but -- as a morning star -- juxtaposed with the sun (Helios) and Hermes. This information can be found in Plato's Timaeus (38e) and in Edith Hamilton's Mythology."


On a lighter note, Arthur Clarke, in his fictional book 2061 correctly uses the word "Lucifer". He uses it as a name for a new sun in the solar system which is correct since the new sun is a second 'morning star' of 'original' 'light-bearing' substance--not some evil being of religious mythology.

David Grinspoon comments on the historical aspects of the word as follows: "The origin of the Judeo-Christian Devil as an angel fallen from heaven into the depths of hell is mirrored in the descent of Venus from shining morning star to the darkness below. This underworld demon, still feared today by people in many parts of the world, is also called Lucifer, which was originally a Latin name for Venus as a morning star." (Venus Revealed p. 17) Actually, Grinspoon should just refer to the "Christian Devil" since the Jews never believed in such a creature and still don't to this day.

Lucifer Rising - Arthur C. Clark; 2010 - Counterfeit Light of the World
"A generation would soon be born that had never known a world without Lucifer." Best selling author and world renowned scientist, Arthur C. Clarke, penned these words in his science fiction masterpiece, 2010: Odyssey Two–a book/movie sequel to his ground breaking 1968 work, 2001: A Space Odyssey. Unknown to those who only watched 2010, there was a major difference between the motion picture and the novel. Eerily, the book contained a section titled "Lucifer Rising."

In Clarke’s Lucifer Rising story line, the hydrogen atmosphere on the planet Jupiter is ignited. The ensuing new "little" sun is dubbed "Lucifer" and illuminates the earth with its light. The result: darkness no longer existed. Fear, suspicion, and crimes of the night disappear. Mankind has become illuminated through the light of Lucifer.

To occultists and New Agers, the symbology of Arthur C. Clarke’s writing was unmistakable. Lucifer, the "light bearer" shines his knowledge (occult "truth") upon all humanity, chasing away fear and ignorance, and providing mankind with the opportunity to discover his own intellect.
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So says Satanist with their Kabbala
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doesn't pay to get too educated about religion on here. they won't listen. the twistedness of it allows too many loopholes where one can escape and go to heaven happily forever and ever no matter what. if it's broken, don't try to fix it, for it works for them!
the "emperors" have no clothes!
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Lucifer is a member of the forum. He posts some pretty interesting threads.
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men choose to believe that which they wish to believe.

Good post on the real meaning of Lucifer.
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Hmmmmmm .... according to my research, "...... Mars is the home of the Lucifer spriits ....."

Now you're telling me that VENUS is another name for Lucifer; well does he live on Mars, or what?! Does that mena that Venus USED to reside on Mars? Were Venus and Mars once combined luvya? Did they fall out with each other? What started the fight? THIS? brick Did they have any kids? Like THIS??? angrynutbeerhatenguardtaunterflick If so, what happend to the kids? Who has custody? Does Venus get spousal support? Are the rumors true that Mars is an old, mean-spirited DRUNK huffy and that's why he always beats up on poor Venus slaphim? Did they have any pets? Like THIS one??? godzilla Did they feed him THIS? headlessch

.......... "Enquiring minds want to know....."

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Venus = The Great Comet = Planet X

Venus is linked to the Pentagram also.
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really puts this pop song into perspective....
Lucifer couldn't save BananaRama's career.


Goddess on the mountain top
Burning like a silver flame
The summit of beauty and love
And Venus(Lucifer) was her name

She's got it
Yeah, baby, she's got it
I'm your Venus(Lucifer), I'm your fire
At your desire
Well, I'm your Venus(Lucifer), I'm your fire
At your desire

Her weapons were her crystal eyes
Making every man a man
Black as the dark night she was
Got what no-one else had
Wa!

She's got it
Yeah, baby, she's got it
I'm your Venus(Lucifer), I'm your fire
At your desire
Well, I'm your Venus(Lucifer), I'm your fire
At your desire

Goddess on the mountain top
Burning like a silver flame
The summit of beauty and love
And Venus was her name

She's got it
Yeah, baby, she's got it
I'm your Venus(Lucifer), I'm your fire
At your desire
Well, I'm Venus(Lucifer), I'm your fire
At your desire
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This portion of Isaiah is the beginning of the Millennial Reign of Christ. If you read Isaiah 14:7 it tells you that the Earth is at rest, peace. The ninth verse tells us why the Earth is at rest: Lucifer has been cast into hell (Rev. 20:2&3) for a thousand years. Isaiah 14:12-17 reveals the taunts from the other fallen angels as he enters hell:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thu hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most high.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and sider theee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms:
That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?


As for these verses applying to the King of Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar) in Isaiah's time: Babylon is not destroyed until after the middle of the Tribulation (Revelation 18:10), a still-future event.
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Kid's yes Mars had 5 attendents you could consider his

Eris (discord )
Phobos ( Alarm )
Metis ( Fear )
Demios ( Dread )
Pallor ( Terror )

Venus had Cupid
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Kid's yes Mars had 5 attendents you could consider his

Eris (deiscord )
Phobos ( Alarm )
Metis ( Fear )
Demios ( Dread )
Pallor ( Terror )

Venus had Cupid
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jupiter imploded via a dark matter conversion process by the monolith.

it didnt ignite from anything except when it hit singularity.


anyhow, SATURN is the Gas Giant, Jupiter is a solid mutha fucka.
Remember when the 12 comets hit it, the impact was seen through the cloudy atmosphere, meaning its only coupla hundred miles of atmosphere that jupiter contains.
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Yesterday on NPR they did a story on a composer who just passed
name escapes me
said he created some controversy when he said 911 was lucifer's greatest work of art.

i don't remember hearing about that at all
anyone?
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here's the story on the art comment
don't see the word lucifer but still interesting

Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
Sep. 25, 2001

Monstrous Art
Julia Spinola

Four concerts featuring music by the German avant-garde composer Karlheinz Stockhausen have been cancelled, following the composer's distasteful, tactless comments concerning the terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon. The concerts were to have formed the thematic focus of the Hamburg Music Festival, which started last Saturday and continues through this Saturday.

Asked at a press conference on Monday for his view of the events, Stockhausen answered that the attacks were "the greatest work of art imaginable for the whole cosmos." According to a tape transcript from public broadcaster Norddeutscher Rundfunk, he went on: "Minds achieving something in an act that we couldn't even dream of in music, people rehearsing like mad for 10 years, preparing fanatically for a concert, and then dying, just imagine what happened there. You have people who are that focused on a performance and then 5,000 people are dispatched to the afterlife, in a single moment. I couldn't do that. By comparison, we composers are nothing. Artists, too, sometimes try to go beyond the limits of what is feasible and conceivable, so that we wake up, so that we open ourselves to another world."
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Did you know that 'lucifer' is the dutch word for 'match'.

So in dutch you can light your cigarette with a lighter or with a 'lucifer'.

[link to www.holland4you-aanstekers.nl]
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Bump for truth!
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bttt again!!!
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isn't it funny how in the bible it tells of how "satan" invited Eve to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge... and thru doing this he gave us knowledge, which the christian "god" didn't want us to have. why?

and later, god said, quick, send them out of the garden so they may not eat of the tree of life as well and become like us.

those verses (i dont remember specifically which they were, but i know they are in genesis) always made me wonder about the true divinity of the "god" that supposedly created Adam and Eve.

that "god" seems like more of a deceiver to me than "satan" did.

maybe the gnostics had it right when they said that the god of the bible is an evil, jealous god and is not the true all powerful god.
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Lucifer is a member of the forum. He posts some pretty interesting threads.
 Quoting: Razrin


Lucian is a trip...
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Bump bump bump
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drevil


interesting opinion you have


i'll be your friend and set you straight so you don't go round soundign silly anymore...


the morning star - is the sun, it rises in the morning


this means lucifer is the son/sun of god


that makes lucifer the good guy


hello :)


the bad guy is satan


or saturn


your welcome :D
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So says Satanist with their Kabbala
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The Kabbalah is nothing more than the Divine Spark of God within you. Kabbalah is called the "Tree of Life" with good reason. The Kabbalah is filled with light energy spinning control centers that God created for us called chakras. While we are sleeping at night, God sends us his love life force energy which goes to the different chakras. From these chakras that God energy goes to our physical organs, etc within the physical body. You can call your real self (what I've termed) the Light Body Power Generator that powers up your physical body. We are more than our physical bodies. Think of the physical body as being like a robot. Without a power source, the robot is dead. It does not move. No lights turn on. BUT once you plug the robot in or place a battery into it, everything turns on and starts working. Without God's Light (the Divine Spark that needs refueling) the physical body is dead. There is nothing there to power up that physical body. Do you understand?! The Kabbalah is not evil. The Kabbalah has often been misunderstood by those who do not take the time to educate themselves on the subject matter. yoda
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Venus used to be a moon of Uranus, and Mercury used to be a moon of Saturn.
We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.

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The Definition of Our Future:


Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.

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From a banned book of Enoch....





Abaddon - fallen angel of death whose name means "to destroy."
Abezethibou - one-winged Red Sea fallen angel.
Allocen - fallen angel who is a duke in hell.
Amduscias - name of the fallen angel who appears as a unicorn.
Amon - fallen angel who is a strong marquis over 40 legions.
Amy - name of a fallen angel who is a president in hell.
Andras - fallen angel marquis and appears raven-headed.
Andrealphus - fallen angel who can transform humans into birds.
Andromalius - fallen angel who appears as a man holding a serpent.
Apollyon - fallen angel of death; same as Abaddon.
Armaros - fallen angel who teaches the "resolving of enchantments."
Asmoday - fallen angel king with three heads: a bull, a ram, and a man.
Asmodeus - one of the most evil of fallen angels, being an archdemon.
Astaroth - fallen angel who is a grand duke in hell.
Azael - evil, fallen angel who cohabited with women.
Azazel - fallen angel whose name means "God strengthens."
Azza - fallen angel whose name means "the strong."
Baal - fallen angel whose name means "the lord."
Balam - fallen angel who looks like Asmoday with a serpent tail.
Balberith - fallen angel who is a grand pontiff in hell.
Baraqijal - fallen angel who teaches astrology.
Barbatos - fallen angel who is a great count, earl and duke of hell.
Bathin - pale horse riding fallen angel.
Beelzebub - fallen angel known as the "prince of demons."
Behemoth - fallen angel who is the "demon of the deep."
Beleth - fallen angel who is a terrible king over 85 legions.
Belial - deceptively beautiful fallen angel whose name means "without worth."
Belphegor - fallen angel whose name means "lord of opening."
Berith - fallen angel...
Bernael - fallen angel of darkness and evil.
Bifrons - fallen angel that appears monstrous and teaches mathematical arts.
Botis - fallen angel who appears as a viper.
Buer - fallen angel who teaches philosophy, logic and ethics.
Bune - fallen angel who appears as a dragon with three heads.
Caim - fallen angel who appears as a thrush or man with a sword.
Dantanian - fallen angel who appears as a man with many faces.
Decarabia - fallen angel who appears as a star in a pentacle.
Eligor - fallen angel who appears as a good knight with lance.
Enepsigos - fallen angel who appears in the shape of woman.
Flauros - fallen angel who appears as a leopard.
Focalor - fallen angel who appears as a man with griffin wings.
Forcas - fallen angel who teaches logic and ethics.
Forneus - fallen angel marquis who appears as a sea monster.
Furcas - fallen angel who appears as a cruel man with long beard.
Furfur - fallen angel who appears as a hart with a fiery tail.
Gaap - fallen angel who appears as a man with bat wings.
Gadreel - fallen angel whose name means "God is my helper."
Gamygyn - fallen angel who appears as a small horse.
Glasyalabolas - fallen angel who appears as a winged dog.
Gomory - fallen angel who appears as a camel riding woman of beauty.
Gusion - fallen angel who can discern the past, present or future.
Hagenti - fallen angel who appears as a bull with griffin wings.
Halpas - fallen angel who appears as a stork.
Imamiah - fallen angel who governs voyages.
Ipos - fallen angel who appears as an angel with a lion's head.
Kokabiel - fallen angel whose name means "star of God."
Kunopegos - fallen angel who appears as a sea horse and sinks ships.
Lahash - fallen angel who interferes with divine will.
Lerajie - fallen angel who appears as an archer in green.
Leviathon - fallen angel associated with the deep seas.
Lillith - fallen female angel who searches for children to kidnap or kill.
Lix Tetrax - fallen angel of the wind.
Lucifer - actually a Babylonian king whose name means "bearer of light."
Malpas - fallen angel who appears as a crow.
Marbas - fallen angel who appears as a lion.
Marchosias - fallen angel who appears as a she-wolf with griffin wings.
Mastema - fallen angel whose name means "hostility."
Mephistopheles - fallen angel; name means "he who loves not the light."
Morax - fallen angel who appears as a bull.
Naamah - fallen angel of prostitution whose name means "pleasing."
Naberius - fallen angel who appears as a crowing cock.
Obyzouth - fallen angel femal who kills newborns and cause still-births.
Onoskelis - female fallen angel who lives in caves and perverts men.
Orias - fallen angel who appears as a lion with serpent's tail.
Ornias - fallen angel who is annoying and can shape-shift.
Orobas - fallen angel who appears as a horse.
Ose - fallen angel who appears as a leopard and is a president in hell.
Paimon - fallen angel who appears as a crowned man on a camel.
Penemuel - fallen angel who corrupts mankind through writing.
Pharzuph - fallen angel of fornication and lust.
Phoenix - fallen angel who appears as a phoenix bird.
Procel - fallen angel who can speak of hidden and secret things.
Purah - fallen angel of forgetfulness and the conjuring of the dead.
Purson - fallen angel who appears as a lion-headed man on a bear.
Qemuel - fallen angel who was destroyed by God.
Rahab - fallen angel of pride whose name means "violence."
Raum - fallen angel who appears as a crow.
Ronobe - fallen angel who is a monster who teaches rhetoric and art.
Ruax - headache fallen angel.
Sabnack - fallen angel who appears as a soldier with lion's head.
Saleos - fallen angel who appears as a soldier on a crocodile.
Samael - evil fallen angel whose name means "the blind God."
Satan - christian fallen angel whose name means "adversary."
Seere - fallen angel who appears as a man on a winged horse.
Semyaza - fallen angel leader and one of the Sons of God.
Shax - fallen angel who appears as a stork; stealer of money.
Solas - fallen angel who appears as a raven and teaches astronomy.
Sorath - fallen angel to some whose number is 666.
Sytry - fallen angel; appears as a man with griffin wings and leopard head.
Uzza - fallen angel whose name means "strength."
Valac - fallen angel who appears as a small boy with wings on a dragon.
Valefor - fallen angel who appears as a many-headed lion.
Vapula - fallen angel who is skilled in handicrafts, science and philosophy.
Vassago - fallen angel who discovers all things lost or hidden.
Vepar - fallen angel who appears as a mermaid.
Vine - fallen angel and appears as a lion sitting on a black horse.
Vual - fallen angel who appears as a huge camel.
Wormwood - fallen angel who brings plagues upon the Earth.
Xaphan - fallen angel who fires the fires of hell.
Zagan - fallen angel who can transform things; looks like a bull with wings.
Zepar - fallen angel who makes women love men.
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I find this one interesting as it conditions kids.

Amduscias - name of the fallen angel who appears as a unicorn.
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isn't it funny how in the bible it tells of how "satan" invited Eve to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge... and thru doing this he gave us knowledge, which the christian "god" didn't want us to have. why?

and later, god said, quick, send them out of the garden so they may not eat of the tree of life as well and become like us.

those verses (i dont remember specifically which they were, but i know they are in genesis) always made me wonder about the true divinity of the "god" that supposedly created Adam and Eve.

that "god" seems like more of a deceiver to me than "satan" did.

maybe the gnostics had it right when they said that the god of the bible is an evil, jealous god and is not the true all powerful god.
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It might be helpful for you to read the book called, "The 12th Planet" by Zachariah Sichum. And the book "Enoch" by Elizabeth Clare Prophet. And the book "Tablets of Sumer." Or you could do a much faster learning by watching the youtube.com videos called, "Bringers of the Dawn" Part 1-17 by the Pleiadians. Very interesting stuff! Knowledge is power, some say. I'd invite you to do the research yourself. The books I share here should point you in the right direction.
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Re: The true meaning behind the word "LUCIFER". Lucifer is just a name for "VENUS".
LU CI FER

LU

U = of -----6---LU = 36= 9
L= energy-3

CI or SI.. sound is S.. = 3+1

FER==two ways.. FE= 13 ( 8+5) R+2 or idea of ..( or 852=6)

9-13-13-2= 9 + 8(17)tyranno dude 2... create idea of tyranno dude.

god of tyr... runes.. 88 2= 9 the ultimate SSSSSSSDUDE OF LIZARDUMB

ah ho WIOLAWA
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interesting
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Venus = The Great Comet = Planet X

Venus is linked to the Pentagram also.
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venus make a pentagram every 8 years.
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This was influenced by Lucifer. Lucifer is worshiped by people that worship the Sun. They created an evil New World Order that is murderous. It's obvious the Evil of Lucifer. A deity that is worshiped by Freemasons and Jews and anyone else who gets caught up by any religious dogma. The reign of evil is almost over. Asherah is Light, not Lucifer. YHWH is God is Dark Matter. Asherah is the Light that came from within Yahweh(YHWH). Lucifer can deceive and does and has. YHWH is rising.
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If you want real answers look to Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall. I believe him to be the second coming of YHWH! YHWH-SHRH Yahweh-Asherah is everything that is and was and that always will be.

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