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Seektress
12/02/2004 07:58 AM
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Dear Dept. of Homeland Security...

December 1, 2004
I have been thinking about you a lot the last few days. You see, we donīt know each other very well, although Iīve heard a lot about you, I donīt think weīve ever actually met. But then, that is most often the case for many of those I have "met" over the internet. Youīve been on my mind because you have made several visits the last two days to my most recent web page. You know the one, itīs pretty much like this one, pictures of illegal aerosol activity over Houston.
I donīt check out all my hits. Thereīs been over 4000 on that page since it went up. But, I do grab 20 every now and then, to see whoīs there. Geez, youīve been there a bunch! Iīm flattered, truly. Yep, you, and NASA about 11 times and Boeing about 7, but then again, they come to my site more than I do... and many other interesting folks, from all over the world have been hanging out there a lot since Sunday night. This is you, right? 63.162.143.21 Yep, Iīm sure it was you.

It was really kind of weird...I mentioned to a couple of folks at work today that yīall had been stopping by the page. You know what they did? They asked me if I was scared! Now, isnīt that the silliest thing you have ever heard?!?! Why should I be SCARED of my government? Especially the Dept. of Homeland Security, for crying out loud.... arenīt you supposed to be making me more secure? Thatīs what I thought. Why would I be afraid of that?

So... I figured, since you were so interested, Iīd write. I donīt have your email address though, and you havenīt written me, which you are most certainly welcome to do so if you have any questions about the pictures, or my research or why these operations are so absolutely WRONG. Iīve been checking into this for over 5 years, as you know, so Iīm pretty well versed on the subject. Iīd love to chat with you about it. Iīll bring snacks. Anyway, Iīm sure youīll be able to reach me if you want to, and since this is where you first found out about the page, I figured I could catch you here.

I always enjoy meeting folks and discussing this subject with others who are concerned for the safety and welfare of the citizens of this great nation, as I know YOU are. And donīt ya LOVE the internet??? For example, Iīve just "met" several people the last few days since my pictures of the illegal aerosol operations over Houston pics were posted on the net Sunday night. I have gotten some letters from all over the country, even from England and Italy, some of them very sad. I love to hear from folks, but itīs kind of hard to deal with their stress. I know where theyīre coming from. One thing is, ALL of the letters have the same concerns I do about the use of this technology without informed consent, environmental impact studies or want to know why our tax dollars are being spent on this without our knowledge or permission. Also, the health effects that are showing up because of this stuff. Some of the folks who wrote have sent me their own pictures, like this one below, from North Carolina. It was much worse there that day than here. I guess thatīs because we have so much normal air traffic over Houston, itīs hard to get good coverage sometimes. But they give it their best shot.



So anyway...since youīve been dropping by so much the last few days, you are probably getting tired of looking at those same pictures. But guess what!?!?!? Just this very day, operations continued over Houston, and guess what else?? I took MORE pictures. I figure you would appreciate a fresh set to look at, and I am more than happy to oblige. I wasnīt able to get as many or capture the activity as often as Sunday, because I had to work today, but I thought Iīd do what I could to help you out. As youīll see, the end result was the same. A crapped up sky.

So, here they are...but before I get to them, let me thank you. Because, I am sure that you, and the other nice government agencies and corporations, are coming to my site because they too are concerned about what these programs are doing to all of us, yep, you too. Barium and Aluminum do not discriminate, theyīre heavy metals, they have no brains. They make everyone sick. Doesnīt matter what political affiliation one has or has not. Not to mention what the programs are doing to the water and the soil. And have you noticed the weird weather? Think about it.

So...thanks again for stopping by. You can count on me to keep you up to date regarding the Houston area. Iīm really glad you visited. I love to find things in common with others on the net. And gee, Iīm trying to fight terrorism too... isnīt that neat?!?! Stop by the site anytime, afterall, weīre in this together...right? And I know that you, like me, have the best interests of our fellow countrymen, their families and children at heart........donīt we????

So hereīs today in Houston, TX, starting at about 8:30 am and going until 3pm.
And in case you want to reach me, my email addy is at the bottom.



I was glad to get these two because
they show the rings around the sun.
That happens a lot when thereīs a lot of that crap up there.



So there you go AGAIN.
Another assaulted sunset.
Thanks for being here to see it. It sucks, huh?
Sincerely, Lorie Kramer [email protected]




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Holes in the Ozone, or Holes in the Soul?
Local Houston Chemtrail Activity Images
Patently Obvious - US Aerosol & Weather Modification Related Patents
Clifford Carnicom Website
Rense Chemtrail Datapage
Houston Indy Media Center
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Loīs Home


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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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1rof1
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Thatīs the Old American Fighting Spirit! You GO Girl! EXPOSE the bloody bastards!!! Then rub their noses in it!!! applause
just the facts..
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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bump....for the spammers and spooks to see whats upībuttbuttbuttbuttalienshipbuttbutt
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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PuPP
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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The strong winds have blown all of the chemtrail hazy muck out of our skies here in So Calif lately.

Weīre overdue for another major spray job.

The most wonderful thing on these rare clear nights is to be able to see the stars again. They are so beautiful.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Thanks for publishing that web address. You all know what to do with it.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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63.162.143.21

Here it is.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Human Activity Tied To Deadly Heat Waves
By Serena Gordon
HealthDay Reporter
Forbes.com
12-1-4

(HealthDayNews) -- While human activity probably isnīt directly responsible for the 2003 heat wave that caused thousands of deaths in Europe, British researchers say human influence on the Earthīs climate has at least doubled the risk that such protracted hot spells can occur.

In fact, the scientists said, greenhouse gases and other pollutants may have caused up to a fourfold increase in the risk of serious heat waves.

"Our research shows a clear link between human influence on climate and the damaging heat wave of 2003 that led to between 22,000 and 35,000 extra deaths," said study co-author Peter Stott, a climate scientist at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research. "We estimate the risk is increasing rapidly such that by the middle of this century, every other summer will be hotter than 2003 if no serious efforts are made to reduce greenhouse emissions."

Their findings are reported in the Dec. 2 issue of Nature.

The summer of 2003 may have been the hottest on record in Europe in about 500 years, according to the study. As many as 35,000 heat-related deaths were reported that summer, according to an editorial accompanying the article. Economic costs from crop losses and forest fires caused nearly $14 billion worth of damage, according to the editorial.

Using climate models, Stott and his colleagues statistically evaluated weather patterns with and without greenhouse gas emissions. They found that such emissions have at least doubled the risk of heat waves, and could perhaps increase the odds substantially higher.

"Weīve shown that greenhouse gas emissions, resulting mainly from fossil fuel burning, have increased the risk of heat waves in Europe, such as we saw last year," said Stott.

"We think it is very likely that the risk has more than doubled, and our best estimate is that the risk has already quadrupled. Greenhouse gas emissions have loaded the weather dice, making heat waves much more likely," he concluded.

Does this mean sweltering summers might become inevitable? Stott said it could mean just that, at least for a while.

"Because of the inertia of the climate system, we are already committed to heat waves becoming more common over the next few decades. But if we reduce greenhouse gas emissions, we can prevent further increases and avoid the more serious consequence of very large rates of warming in Europe and other regions of the world," Stott said.

The study "is the first successful attempt to link climate change to a specific extreme event, and to quantify the role of man-made greenhouse gas emissions on such heat wave," said Christoph Schr, chairman of the Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science in Switzerland and a co-author of the editorial.

But he also said there are many "uncertainties in applying this model to an extreme event such as the European heat wave," and added, "further studies will be needed to corroborate the paperīs conclusions.

However, Schr added that this study brings up an interesting issue: Whoīs to blame?

"The quantification of the man-made contribution in extreme events might ultimately lead to climate liability claims," said Schr.

A second paper accompanying the Stott study specifically addressed potential liability issues. "A substantial fraction of our current elevated level of carbon dioxide might be traced to products produced and sold or used by only a few dozen major companies," wrote Myles Allen, a physicist at the University of Oxford, and Richard Lord, a London-based negligence attorney.

And, while thereīs no way to prove that greenhouse emissions directly caused damage today, in the future, the authors said, "We could one day see Californian farmers suing member states of the European Union for authorizing emissions that threatened the security of their water supplies."

Liability issues aside, both Stott and Schr said itīs vital that steps be taken to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

"Man-made emissions of greenhouse gases are considered the main driver behind global warming observed during the last 30 to 50 years. These emissions primarily result from the burning of fossil fuels -- oil, gas, coal. Reducing the emissions would ultimately slow down the warming," said Schr.

In the meantime, he recommended that humans try to adapt to the climate change.

"Governments should take actions to implement early warning systems, and to raise the awareness in the population about how to cope with such heat wave events. This could help reduce the negative health and societal implications," said Schr.

Đ 2004 Forbes.com Inc.ô All Rights Reserved

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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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OrgName: Sprint
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idol harobed
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Wow, scared of a dialup IP.... FYI, The DHS doesnt use Sprint. And Reston Va is a hub for many internet backbones, you dipshits.
spacie
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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chemfree sky yesterday...
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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reston, va...home of world.com
and govt peeples...
near their bunkers
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Search results for: 63.162.143.21

Sprint SPRN-BLKS (NET-63-160-0-0-1)
63.160.0.0 - 63.175.255.255
DeptHomelandSecurity SPRINTLINK (NET-63-162-143-0-1)
63.162.143.0 - 63.162.143.31

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Edited to add:

Idol, itīs amazing to see a Brazilian show up on *every* post concerning chemtrails in the US .. and you discount everything because of a professor and one book .. which reminds me .. *when* do you have time for school and life? .. you seem to always be here.

Interesting.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Yeah, I agree with what the chink chick said over what the spic chick said!
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a brazilian that posts spam pictures and canīt write more than one sentence, interesting

also, absolutely every chemtrail thread, interesting
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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seekstress = Duncan!
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Circuit Breaker must be taking a dump.
He should have been here by now.

Maybe itīs his day off?

I donīt think the Idol name/entity ever gets a day off.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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The spraying in Florida this past month has been horrendously bad. Today, I watched it start before dawn and the sky is totally obliterated now, grey, hazy and you canīt even see where the sunīs at. Same by you Cleareyes???
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Maybe this could be part of the problem. Rocket fuel chemical found in water, produce
Federal agencies detect traces of chemical across country. Iīm not saying this is the whole reason, but it could get more people interested in the issue and looking up.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Maybe "Idol" which is actually Deborah in Lodi backwards, is sitting on this board all day just ready to debunk anything that has even a tiny ring of truth to it. I wonder why??? Seems that even photos and testaments from witnesses are not good enough for her - this all just gets debunked automatically with no aparent thought or reason to by "Idol". She never even offers any sort of logical alternatives either! How strange.
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brazilnuts are people too!

here in NZ i dont see any chemtrails, and i do know chemtrails, having lived in los angeles, CA. from 2000-2003, so hear me out. there is NO obvious spraying where i live, but there is very obvious weather modification going on, i dont know how they do it, sattelites? or is the spraying in other countries enough for everyone elses sky? take a look please

[link to www.geocities.com]

the 3rd picture is the most interesting as it looks like a spiderweb, or an antenna?!

hornsheepwhip:
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Good deal Clear-Eyes, set this bizaar person out front for everyone to know just who in the heck is funding this couter-information she is always involved in. A shill she be...

Iīm in my early 50īs, never had any respitory ailments until this spraying started. This fall was a wake-up call to me. I had so much of that Aluminum Oxide and other chemicals foul my lungs
until I fell over gasping for air, coughing up stuff Iīd never seen before. Foundout through CyberSpaceOrbit article that I was not the only person in Northern Ohio to detect these killer spray operations, countless people had called a talk radio show in Cleveland, by the dozens reporting this mass assault against everyone in our area. So Idol Mindless, find some other country to spew your disinfomation. We are not as stupid as your always implying. Come on up and we will treat you to all the "crud-air" you can inhale---for free! Othewise do not bother anyone with your "Disinformation", breath it first then shoot your mouth off.
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Great chem pics 1:39

Here are my samples from what has been going on over the past 5 years:
htt://www.geocities.com/skeindubh/chem.html
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Why am I not surprised that youīd get this? (Actually, surprised it didnīt happen sooner)
Itīs good to see you, Lo! :-) Glad to see youīre still kickin ass & takin names!
(sanddollar)
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BUMP
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according to the head of counterintelligence (spoke on cspan recently):
one of their main objectives is to protect the proprietary rights of corporations.

i.e. if a corporation has formulated and atmospheric aerosol, and has basically copyrighted it, or it is a secret recipe which they cannot allow the public to discover...then the intelligence agencies consider anyone who is trying to discover this information to be īterroristsī
they also use any method they can harness to mislead and prevent this īproprietaryī knowledge from becoming public knowledge

now you know the inane foundation of the chemtrail debunkers, they are protecting the proprietary rights of corporations

the head of counterintelligence admitted that overseas the intelligence agencies lie, kill and steal to promote the agenda and safety of the US.
supposedly, they will not do that to US citizens.
But, lying is certainly one of their tactics in this īinformation warī, as they call it.

Anyone who looks into, or is curious about anything involving the govt. which affects the citizens are assumed to be "foreign intelligence", they actually think we are gathering information for our īenemiesī (whatever label they have this week)

It has come down to the point that govt. is the security guard and enforcer for the banks and corporations. WE are financing our own policing and imprisonment by paying our taxes. That is the irony of our so called freedom.

If you know how to find the cspan archives, you can order the program by the head of Counterintelligence, Michelle VanCleve (sp?)
The program aired within the last month.
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Quote: Wow, scared of a dialup IP.... FYI, The DHS doesnt use Sprint. And Reston Va is a hub for many internet backbones, you dipshits.


according to Yahoo maps Reston, Va is only 12.9
from Langley, VA

you dipshit Sock Puppet
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"Circuit Breaker must be taking a dump. He should have been here by now."

Gee, I wouldnīt want to disappoint the likes of you. Unlike you, I have a life. So, whatīs new?

"The spraying in Florida this past month has been horrendously bad."

Guess you should move to Tampa, we donīt have "chemtrails" down here. Although, it was partly to mostly cloudly today. Made my evening run quite pleasant as I got to see a very nice sunset.

Still waiting for someone to prove these are actually "chemtrails." All Iīve seen so far is a bunch of claims and some pictures. That doesnīt convince me. But then having a brain, a semester of Meteorology, and the ability to think, it takes more than your say so to convince me. I really liked the thread a few months ago claiming they had "samples" from "chemtrails" that were analyzed by a lab, and yet they refused to discuss how the sample was collected or tell anyone what lab did the analysis. That doesnīt do anything to convince me. Sorry.





GLP