ZetaTalk: Christmas Hammer

Not to mention a complete waste of air.

.......and a complete waste of GLP space.

I'm fairly open minded and have no strong opinion one way or another regarding whether Nancy is relaying truthful information, but she did specifically state there would be "disasters affecting the entire world" during the Christmas season. The Christmas season is long gone. There were no disasters. No chain reaction earthquakes causing mass casualties, no tsunamis, no simultaneous freak high tides. There was nothing and now we are almost halfway through January.

I think folks on both sides of the issue need to question Nancy about this during her chat. During last week's chat, she referred to her previous week's answer which stated that "more it to come". More of what? Nothing happened to begin with. Seeing possible moons of PX in the sky are not "disasters affecting the entire world".

Just my analysis and opinion.

Yeah someone should ask, but she won't answer. And if you insist you will be deleted and banned. That's just the way it is with Nancy, being a mod and all. You either swallow it whole or you are banished.

Obviously, sarcasm escapes you. Right. A large earthquake managed to destroy just part of the poster's garden but nothing else?

We don't call you Loser for nothing.

Yes, you ARE getting more shrill. We can definitely sense the increase of your fear.

Oh, it happened. On Christmas day, either Nancy or Loser got hammered with too much holiday cheer.

Circuit Stupid never seems to learn from his mistakes.

Remember when he alluded to elle being drunk one night on GLP (On Nancy's N A Rip thread ... page 8). He denied this and was proven a liar for that one.

His elevator doesn't seem to go to the top floor. Again, they don't call his Circuit Stupid for nothing!

Man you bunkers are good i see you have used alot of these.



As compiled from various posts on sci.skeptic and alt.fan.art-bell. Original idea by Reality Check.

To be a proper woo-woo, you must follow these rules:

1. Never look for the simplest, most obvious cause of something. Refrain from mentioning Occam's Razor (it's your nemesis).
2. Always favor the conspiracy angle over the boring angle. Mundane explanations (like saying that Roswell was a balloon) are for dullards and government drones. If you want to sleep with that curvaceous new-age chick, don't tell her you think astrology is bogus! (Non woo-woos may benefit from that advice temporarily).
3. Don't accept mainstream science unless it's something you've believed in for years (like gravity).
4. Try to answer as few direct questions as possible. Always obfuscate and try to sound learned. Mimic Richard Hoagland's style and you'll go far.
5. Use "what if" scenarios to change the subject whenever possible. If you linger on one topic too long you may be asked to provide annoying things like "proof." Don't let that happen! Consult a creationist if you need practice with subject-changing.
6. If you're cornered and asked for proof of something, always tell the person that they "can't disprove" your claims. Many of them will just walk away shaking their heads, which of course means they agree with you. A side-to-side head shake could be the same as a vertical nod. Anything is possible, after all.

7. Memorize all the sci-babble terms used in the Star Trek series. They are very useful if you get cornered by a skeptic, and you need to come up with some sort of "scientific" explanation. e.g., Inertial Dampeners. (Thanks to SkepticReport.com for the Star Trek terminology correction!)
8. When all else fails, start asking hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with the actual debate. If your opponent chooses to ignore your pointless questions and remains on topic, repeat your meaningless question(s) over and over. This will make any Believers in the audience think that your opponent is evading the issue.
9. Accuse your opponent of being a liar, or try some other tactic that will (hopefully) make him angry. If he responds in kind to your endless taunts, change the subject to his anger, and accuse him of name calling. If he accuses you of provoking him, then you have changed the subject of the debate. If he stays on topic, keep the heat up. The Believers in the audience will forgive the worst verbal attacks you use, but they will think even the mildest replies he makes to you are personal attacks that undermine his argument.
10. Use the word quantum in a sentence, despite not knowing what it means. For a more impressive effect, use it with the name of your favorite superstition - "quantum dowsing" sure sounds mighty serious.
11. Two more words: Paradigm shift.
12. Always claim that the other guy is "closed-minded" and that you're as free-thinking as a newborn baby. Other woo-woos love the concept of "open-mindedness" and will take you into their inner circle without question. They have no tolerance for those "mean old nasty" types who demand evidence for everything.
13. Drink heavily while posting.
14. You must believe that the word "anomaly" means proof of paranormal activity.
15. Use the word "anomaly" as often as possible.
16. When your position appears hopeless, your entire audience is laughing at you, and you've lost all credibility (and perhaps even won a Kook of the Month) threaten everyone within proximity with a lawsuit. You don't need to actually prepare a lawsuit, just make the threat. That will let them know you're a serious person.
17. Go make your own newsgroup with a group charter drawn up to keep out anyone who doesn't agree with your view of the world. Occasionally crosspost to other newsgroups from that one, then complain when people answer your posts, complain to their system admistrators that they're abusing the terms of your newsgroup and demand their accounts be yanked for abusive spamming. Respond to each answering message with a duplicate copy of the FAQ for your newsgroup.
18. Open numerous accounts under other names, then post agreeable responses to your own messages from those accounts. Everybody knows that the only reason anybody disagrees with you is that they like the belong to "the group" and have no independent thought of their own. Just manufacture a group of people who agree with you, and the rest of the mindless zeebs will fall into line, tripping over each other to become one of your supporters.
19. Fix the 'reply to' line of any post you make, to direct responses to your email account - this will automatically mail you a copy of any response made to your posts on usenet. Send copies of these mails to the postmasters and sysadmins of anyone who posts a disagreeing answer to you. Refer to these people as 'internet terrorists' and demand their accounts be canceled immediately for sending you unwanted email spam.
20. Refer to anyone who doggedly uncovers your latest little scams, time after time as "stalkers." Write to their sysadmins and demand their accounts be removed for net abuse.
21. Remember to occasionally tell your opponents that you've handed all the information you've collected about them to the local police/Mounties/FBI who were extremely interested and grateful for the advance notice of where to find criminals like you. You don't actually have to collect any information, or send it to anybody, but this will keep your opponents edgy, and make them paranoid. Mention that the police/Mounties/FBI are closing in on them, and that their day of reckoning is just moments away.
22. Refer to anyone who does not immediately agree with you as being uneducated on the matter, lacking in important information, or just plain too stupid to understand your magnificent statements.
23. Pretend to write a book. Nothing says "I am beyond reproach" like having written a book. If asked for an ISBN number, just make something up. Nobody ever looks at those anyway.
24. Pretend to have a degree. Never let yourself be pinned down to what kind or where you got it. Just state repeatedly that you have one, and therefore are superior, and may not be questioned upon any subject by anyone.

25. Claim that there is no evidence that you are a fraud, kook, net-abuser, spammer, or liar. Refer to any actual proof of this as "spinning" or "disinformation." Post messages that the system administrators of every system your opponents post from are on the verge of killing their accounts for net-abuse, and that you're going to set things right, and get rid of all these cynical lying fact-spinners by sending one final massive complaint against them all.
26. When all else fails.... SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM.....
27. When questioned, be sure to exclaim "They laughed at Galileo, too!" or perhaps "They laughed at Columbus, until he proved the earth was round!"
28. Always bear in mind that The Conspiracy Against You can do almost anything. After all, they've kept those 300 MPG carburetors secret for years.
29. Keep trotting out the one "respectable" scientist who might possibly have said something that could be construed as perhaps giving a hint that it may theoretically support your position. Even better if said scientist has said it outright. Ignore all complaints that the work is 50 years out of date, the scientist has no experience in the field in question or that other experts in the same field think said scientist is a complete loony (and they can prove it, too).
30. Dig out one reference that supports your position. Complain when someone presents a reference that refutes yours. Say that this means they can't think for themselves and your reference proves it. Ignore all queries on why you hold this hypocritical position.
31. Whenever you read something on the Internet, re-post it as fact.
Never bother to do even basic research into the matter.
32. Be sure to repeatedly spam your petty political rants onto lots of unrelated, off-topic newsgroups. (Those folks reading rec.culture.needlepoint are just dying to read about how much you hate a certain politician!)
33. One word: "Hyperdimensional."
34. When debating, remember that the best technique to "proving" your hypothesis is to start with a supposition, and when you get to the third point, refer to the supposition as a "fact". This may cause just enough initial confusion to let you escape with a momentary triumph.
35. Sock Puppets are very useful. If you can't find a weak-minded soul who will blindly parrot you in support of your nonsense, create your own. Then you can refer to your "many" supporters.
36. Quote Einstein, and do so often. Quote things he said if possible, but Einstein has been dead for ages now and so it's permissible to bring him up to date. Change the odd word here and there to make it clear that Einstein would have supported
your argument if only he knew what you know. Act as if any arbitrary Einstein quote supports your position.
37. Any and all communications problems including satellite failures, bad phone
connections, mysterious messages when dialing known phone numbers, busy signals
when trying to enter the grassy knoll on AOL, and radios left on during calls
must be blamed on the 'Conspiracy' trying to 'silence the truth'.
38. Use lots of ALL CAPS letters. Use them randomly: "I was posting my URL in alt.paranormal/alt.astrology. Then I was stopped because A MAJORITY OF POSTERS, PSEUDO-SKEPTIC RAVING FANATICS SCREAMED ABOUT IT."
39. Beware the "goodtimes" virus.
40. When all else fails, try to redefine what "skeptical", "skeptic" and "skepticism" mean so that you become a 'real' skeptic who accepts your own nonsense at face value.
41. Refer to yourself in the third person.

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Its not so easy for the human logic to understand the ET logic and I am not only talking about the Zetas but about other ET civilizations who have contacted human beings.

A few days ago I watched a red UFO at night flying very high in the sky. It was very impressive since It was sending red lightnings all the time.

Just wait and see what will follow.

As for the original subject of this posting before it got warped all around:

All quiet on the seismic front - no 0800 UTC or 1200 UTC "Christmas Hammer"

[link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov]

Loser never learns from his mistakes or his embarrassment.

Remember when you alluded to numerous things, and when asked for evidence you simply insulted people and ran away? Well, here's the list for you:

Challenges "User # 78/68" Continues To Run Away From
(also known as The Number Of Ways "User # 78/68" Continues To Embarrass Himself)

1) When asked for proof that "Planet X" exists, he simply insults others and runs away.
2) When someone wanted to bet him money (something that's very important to him) on Nancy's accuracy, he disappeared. And each time it is brought up, he ignores it.
3) I provided photographic proof that the sun was NOT rising 20 minutes early. When I asked to dispute this, he ran away.
4) I provided a diagram proving that constellations behind the sun CANNOT be made visible by simply tilting the Earth or lowering it in the ecliptic. Instead of providing charts of his own to show it would be possible, he simply threw out insults and ran away.
4) When I personally invited him to Tampa to prove that I am exactly who I say I am, he initially showed interest and then ran away.
5) ID 88145 invited "User # 78/68" to call him at work or e-mail him, instead of doing so he threw out more insults and ran away.
6) When asked why GOTO telescopes continue to accurately track the moon if it were moving unpredictably (i.e. too far north, too far south), he spewed more insults and ran away.
7) ID 88145 has now invited ANYONE who believes in "Planet X" to come view the skies with him to search for this elusive "rogue planet" that "believers" all claim is so easy to see at sunrise. Instead of taking up that invitation, he threw out more insults and ran away.
8) ID 74444 suggested that Nancy is NOT the most popular poster on GLP and explained how he came to this conclusion. Instead of providing any evidence to prove otherwise, "User # 78/68" spewed insults and ran away.
9) When asked if he believed that Earth was halted in orbit, or if he believed that "Planet X" would cause a "pole shift" and wipe out 90% of Earth's population (both of which are claims made by Nancy) - "User # 78/68" called them trick questions, refused to answer and ran away.
10) "User # 78/68" claims that "debunkers" lie. When asked for examples of these lies, he spews insults and runs away.
11) He claims that "debunkers" are government agents. When asked for proof of this, he spews insults and runs away.
12) Since "User" refuses to take 88145 up on his offer to search for "Planet X," it was suggested "User" contact a local astronomy club and view with them. "User" spewed insults and ran away.
13) "User" claims earthquake activity is increasing. But instead of providing data to support this claim, he spewed insults and ran away.
14) Nancy claimed that Adam Air Flight 574 crashed in an inland lake. "Debunkers" have provided several links showing that Nancy is wrong. Instead of providing evidence showing otherwise, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
15) "User" contends that "Debunkers" are always wrong. When asked for examples of when "Debunkers" have been wrong, he spewed insults and ran away.
16) When asked for examples of when Nancy was right, especially when pertaining to astronomical claims and predictions, "User" spewed insults and ran away.
17) "User" has seen this list several times and has yet to dispute anything on it. Instead, he spewed insults and ran away.
18) "User" doesn't believe that vaporized water contaminated with arsenic was responsible for the illness in Peru after a meteor strike. When asked what HE thought caused it, he spewed insults and ran away.
19) "User" claims that the Minneapolis bridge collapse was caused by some "stretch zone." When asked for evidence of this, he spewed insults and ran way.
20) "User" claims that I lied about amateur radio operators equipment and use of the moon for EME communications. When asked for evidence to support his claim that I lied, he spewed insults and ran away.
21) "User" claimed that many, many people are seeing moon "not right." When asked for links of these claims or some form of evidence to support the claim that the moon is "not right," he spewed insults and ran away.
22) "User" claimed that Menow lied when he said the sun is NOT setting further north each day during the fall months. When asked for supporting evidence, he spewed insults and ran away. (Prof-Rabbit) supplied a link showing the sun is NOT moving north at this time.)

Good job, Loser...we're over 20 now! Nancy must be so proud....NOT. This list is no surprise really. Nancy can't afford better help.

Your elevator obviously doesn't go all the way to the top floor. It probably never even leaves the basement. We don't call you Loser for nothing.

Why don't you fuck off?

What happened to this prediction.....

You wrote the following on page 10, zetatalk chat December 15th 2007

“Again, I dont need the Zetas info, because I have received messajes from ET's working for the LIGHT and I do know everything will blow off before January 1, 2008.
Since 2002, they got in touch with me.”

Andrew, it seems that your ET contacts are as unreliable as Nancys.

It would seem that Andrew is also a "special" person.

I honestly wish that I hadn't read this pile of tripe. Fail after fail.......boring, pathetic fear mongering with no basis in fact.

And so many Zeta-Casualties that aren't around anymore... Freestore, User #78/68, Andrew, all who swore the debunkers would be the ones to disappear, and that Doom was any day now...

... in 2007...

How 'bouts M.C. HAMMER ?
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