Jesus Christ was born on September 11th, 3 BC between 6:18 pm and 7:39 pm.

It stands to reason that Satan would try to take a sacred day and turn it into a day of Doom in the minds of men.

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OK, sure he was,

Would that be the Jesus H. Christ who was substituted for the Roman soldier who married Mary, the whore?

Or would that be the Christ invented personage of the Roman Banking family of Piso?

Or would that be the Jesus that was derived from previous mythology such as that of the Druid Hesus?

Or I could go on, and on and on.....

Exactly. We are supposed to be celebrating Jesus birthday and the Feast of Trumpets this time of year.


Mon Aug 6/25/11

they did not have our calendar system and months back then. Those in heaven have put out that the equivalent of his birthday in todays calendar system as august 21, 7 bc about noon. This is fact.

I can back them up, due to an incredible book written by Victor Paul Wierwille entitled, "Jesus Christ - Our Promised Seed" (thanks to my pal Diane Brown for lending me this book and "The Message of the Stars" which reinforced these conclusions). I will use some of the information from that book and several others to prove my point.

he was born 5 BC, kinda stupid you dont even know the birth of the one your worshiping LOL

To bad there are so many unbelievers that follow this site. I don't believe Christ would put up with their non sense very long either. So those of you whom wish to ridicule the web site blog. Be gone in JESUS name and don't look back. You know what happen when Lot's wife looked back. Your other option is to except the fact that their is a GOD in Heaven and he sent his son born of a virgin to save me and you. Why do you think we call 911 to save lives, the devil is a wicked schemer and he loves to twist weak mind's. So don't get it twisted become a believer in Jesus who saves and fights for us. Stay tuned you may learn something.

Actually, the Jesus who talks of forgiveness and the One god is based on Zartosht(Zoroastar). No doubt about it. The teachings and followers reflect this.

he was actualy born at 9:11 AM

he was born 5 BC, kinda stupid you dont even know the birth of the one your worshiping LOL

Read more here (graphics included):

[link to www.garone.net]

The real birth date of the Master

Although millions of people celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ all over the world, not one of them can tell you for certain when He was born. I can tell you that Jesus was not born on December 25th. It was in the third century when the Roman Emperor Aurelan proclaimed the winter solstice, December 25th, as a feast day dedicated to the Roman sun god, Sol. With the advent of the winter solstice, each day thereafter becomes increasingly longer. Aurelan decreed that followers of Christ would be "allowed" to celebrate on December 25th because it was convenient to share the Lords birthday with the Roman celebration of their sun god. So this date was determined by the Romans, not the Bible. In fact, the Bible gives no exact date as to when the Lord was born. But it DOES leave us some incredible clues.

There was no snow, or shepards in the snow. In fact, I don't believe there was a "super nova". I know these are pretty bold statements to make, but I can back them up, due to an incredible book written by Victor Paul Wierwille entitled, "Jesus Christ - Our Promised Seed" (thanks to my pal Diane Brown for lending me this book and "The Message of the Stars" which reinforced these conclusions). I will use some of the information from that book and several others to prove my point.

To understand the circumstances concerning the birth of our Lord, we must first understand a little about astronomy - and a little about astrology. The ancients were master astronomers and kept careful records regarding the motions of the stars. At the time of His birth, it must be understood that the ancients did not differentiate between a star or planet - they were considered to be one and the same. We must also remember that stars do not "move" individually but rather they are fixed in relation to each other. So a "super nova" or "star" for the Magi to follow against the celestial background of fixed stars is pretty much out of the question.

So if not a star, what celestial object did the Magi follow? Let me suggest something that DOES move against the back drop of the stars...

a planet.

Planets (and the moon) do move against the back drop of the stars, hence the name, which when translated from the original Greek means,"wandering stars". Keep this in mind as we look at the birth of Jesus. I point this out because the Magi, or three "wise men" followed a "star" from Jerusalem to Bethlahem, where it came to "rest" above a small section of the city, were following a moving "object".

Having established this, let me now suggest the planet. When we think of the Solar System, one of the questions that comes to everyones mind is "which planet is largest"? Well without any doubt, the answer to that question is Jupiter. Jupiter is known as the "king" of planets. It is also extremely bright in the sky, second only to Venus. Interestingly enough, the planet Jupiter was caught up in a special alignment in the constellation of Virgo around 3 BC.

That it may have been a planet instead of a star that the Magi were following does not make this event any less significant. In fact, it brings more meaning to the birth of our Lord. Isn't it fitting that Jupiter, the magnificent king of the planets should herald the birth of the King of Kings? More so than a random star exploding in the night light years away.


A "Revelation"

Revelation 12:1-5

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

And she being with child cried, travailing in birth and pained to be delivered.

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who as to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God and to His throne".

When applying Astronomy to this passage, it takes on a new meaning. In the first verse, the translation of the word "wonder" in the original Greek refers to a "sign" - but one of the references to this word refers to the Zodiac - a Zodiacal "sign"...and this sign is obviously the "sign" of a woman. There is only one constellation of the Zodiac that represents a woman - the constellation Virgo, the virgin -.(this obviously being a symbolic"nod" to Mary, the holy mother)

It also mentions the woman was "clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet". The Sun as it appears to travel through the ecliptic (the path the Sun moves across the sky over the course of a year as it passes through the twelve constellations of the Zodiac) enters into the "mid body" of the constellation of Virgo - "clothing her with the sun" for a twenty day period during any given year. There is a very important event being described here - in the year 3 BC the sun was in this position from August 27th through September 15th.

We are then told that the woman also had the "moon under her feet". In 3 BC this configuration occurred on one day and one day only - September 11th, between sunset and moon set. On September 11th, sunset occured at 6:18pm, and moon set occured at 7:39pm. To tie this all together, the planet Jupiter was traveling against the back drop of stars to the east, and reached its highest point in the sky in this time frame.

As the Magi left Jerusalem, they saw Jupiter go before them. Traveling south towards Bethlahem, Jupiter in its nightly path would have "went before them, till it came and stood". Being excellent Astronomers, the Magi knew Jupiter would progress slowly toward this point over the town of Bethlahem as it reached its highest point in the sky at the meridian in the constellation of Virgo. As they approached Bethlahem, Jupiter finally "stood over" where the child was born. Based on this hypothesis, Jesus Christ was born on September 11th, 3 BC between 6:18 pm and 7:39 pm.

The great red dragon is of course, Lucifer - whose failed attempt to destroy the Master is thwarted at its onset - as the last passage indicates a future for our Lord ruling the nations with a rod of iron from the throne of God.

Read more here (graphics included):

[link to www.garone.net]

BC - Before Christ
AD - After Death of Christ

How is it possible to be born 3 years before you exist?

AD actually mean Anno Domini. Latin for the year of our lord. So AD 0 is the birth of Christ (if measured correctly) and AD 33 is when he was crucified.

Get a brain moran.

Thanks for that link! It confirms the date my post suggested:

Quote from your link:

"Conclusion

So, if you have followed the above reasoning, based on the scriptural evidence, a case can apparently be made that Jesus Christ was born on the 15th day of the month of Tishri, on the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which corresponds to the September - October timeframe of our present calendar!"
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Pity there is nothing about the year when it happened...