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WHY DID DEMOCRAT ANTIWAR HOWARD DEAN LOSE SO BAD? TELL ME PLEASE! Its ok to go ask your Moms.

 
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WHY DID DEMOCRAT ANTIWAR HOWARD DEAN LOSE SO BAD? TELL ME PLEASE! Its ok to go ask your Moms.
Here you have the number one ANTIWAR Democrat that ever walked the earth. He was the Moveon.org poster boy of all time.

He raised more money on the internet than anyone in history and double what Ron Paul has raised. ($41 million)

He pulled in three times the supporters that Ron Paul has with new voters and independents. He created a "fire storm" of new registered voter applications in IA and NH.

He was a previous Governor and had plently of "hands-on" experience.

He was polling at 28% going into the primaries.

He was the antiwar pukes favorite, AND HE WAS A DEMOCRAT.

Then....

He placed 3rd in IA and then retired as a bonafide loser.

Tell me please how a Antiwar "racist" Libertarian in Republican clothing can do better than Dean when the Republican Party is NOT FUCKING ANTIWAR?

Go for it...

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You must be worrying or else you wouldn't have to post these threads.
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You must be worrying or else you wouldn't have to post these threads.
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Not a bit. Just having fun rattling the moron cages.

I am already drafting my "I OWN YOU IDIOTS" posts.
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Hopefully RP won't flip out on stage the way Howard Dean did.

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Thread: PACNWguy: I have a question..
I already called off work for December 21st, 2012.
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Hopefully RP won't flip out on stage the way Howard Dean did.

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That is what the woo woos want to blame it on, but in reality, the antiwar support wasnt enough to get him a win in a tiny state.
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BEWARE!


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It's not so much about anti-war as it is pro-Constitution...
but torture advocates and neo-con shills like you would know little about that!
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
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PACNFUDGE

STILL

OBSESSED

WITH

RON

PAUL!

BUT I'LL BET HE COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHY WE'RE IN IRAQ.

FUCKING WARMONGERS.
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It's not so much about anti-war as it is pro-Constitution...
but torture advocates and neo-con shills like you would know little about that!
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Pro constitution. lol

IF IT WASNT FOR ANTIWAR,,,RON PAUL WOULDNT HAVE THE SUPPORT HE HAD IN 88.

What a joke.
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Here you have the number one ANTIWAR Democrat that ever walked the earth. He was the Moveon.org poster boy of all time.

He raised more money on the internet than anyone in history and double what Ron Paul has raised. ($41 million)

He pulled in three times the supporters that Ron Paul has with new voters and independents. He created a "fire storm" of new registered voter applications in IA and NH.

He was a previous Governor and had plently of "hands-on" experience.

He was polling at 28% going into the primaries.


Then....

He placed 3rd in IA and then retired as a bonafide loser.



:doglaugh:
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Voter fraud. Skull and Crossbones election was the deal. Duh. Kerry was in single digits before Iowa. Tell me how he got where he did so fast. and you will know why dean did not.
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PACNFUDGE

STILL

OBSESSED

WITH

RON

PAUL!

BUT I'LL BET HE COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHY WE'RE IN IRAQ.

FUCKING WARMONGERS.
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x 2
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because of the Dean Scream sorta like what your hero Huckabie does when he performs with his christian rock band.
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Early on, Dean was the de facto front-runner. In my opinion, he lost because he pissed of the MSM. He stated his intention to break up the media cartel. At that time the MSM still had enormous influence over the general public.

So what did they do? The found footage of an enthusiastic yell by Dean at a rally, and latched onto it like tics on a dog's asshole, playing it over and over and over on radio and television, each time with some talking head questioning Deans "electability". Like I said, the trash MSM still had quite a bit of clout, so it worked.
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This is a very good question, and one that Ron Paul supporters should consider. As a Ron Paul supporter, I'm giving it 5 stars.
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Dean was governor of our state. From what I understand, it was because he GOT EXCITED during a speech. Guess it's a no no for a candidate to display any human emotion such as excitement or exuberance. The media played on that like a fiddle.
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It's not so much about anti-war as it is pro-Constitution...
but torture advocates and neo-con shills like you would know little about that!



Pro constitution. lol

IF IT WASNT FOR ANTIWAR,,,RON PAUL WOULDNT HAVE THE SUPPORT HE HAD IN 88.

What a joke.
 Quoting: PACNWguy

Like I said, you wouldn't know about that.
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
--Justice William O. Douglas

"There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless."
--Niccolò Machiavelli

"I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep"
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Early on, Dean was the de facto front-runner. In my opinion, he lost because he pissed of the MSM. He stated his intention to break up the media cartel. At that time the MSM still had enormous influence over the general public.

So what did they do? The found footage of an enthusiastic yell by Dean at a rally, and latched onto it like tics on a dog's asshole, playing it over and over and over on radio and television, each time with some talking head questioning Deans "electability". Like I said, the trash MSM still had quite a bit of clout, so it worked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 345632



So if the media shows Ron Paul stuttering that will end his campaign?

Howard Dean collapsed due to his supporter's strength.

They were internet savy, young, highly motivated and passionate beyond belief, but there weren't enough of them to make a difference.

Ron Paul doesnt have half of what Howard Dean had.

You kids need to wake up and go outside and take a look around.

laugh
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Voter fraud. Skull and Crossbones election was the deal. Duh. Kerry was in single digits before Iowa. Tell me how he got where he did so fast. and you will know why dean did not.
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One of the cousins (Yes they are cousins) was going to win because TPTB wanted a bonesman. Bush was already incumbent, so the decision was easy.
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
--Justice William O. Douglas

"There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless."
--Niccolò Machiavelli

"I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep"
--Robert Frost

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"So if the media shows Ron Paul stuttering that will end his campaign?

Howard Dean collapsed due to his supporter's strength.

They were internet savy, young, highly motivated and passionate beyond belief, but there weren't enough of them to make a difference.

Ron Paul doesnt have half of what Howard Dean had.

You kids need to wake up and go outside and take a look around. " pacnfudge

go eat a banana monkey.
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Early on, Dean was the de facto front-runner. In my opinion, he lost because he pissed of the MSM. He stated his intention to break up the media cartel. At that time the MSM still had enormous influence over the general public.

So what did they do? The found footage of an enthusiastic yell by Dean at a rally, and latched onto it like tics on a dog's asshole, playing it over and over and over on radio and television, each time with some talking head questioning Deans "electability". Like I said, the trash MSM still had quite a bit of clout, so it worked.



So if the media shows Ron Paul stuttering that will end his campaign?

Howard Dean collapsed due to his supporter's strength.

They were internet savy, young, highly motivated and passionate beyond belief, but there weren't enough of them to make a difference.

Ron Paul doesnt have half of what Howard Dean had.

You kids need to wake up and go outside and take a look around.

laugh
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Deans internet support was the best money could buy.

Get real Pac.
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You honestly believe this speech killed Howard Dean?

You have to be an idiot to believe that. Really!



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i really don't relate ron paul & anti-war as much as I do RP and constitution, sound money & common sense.
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So Pac have you figured out how Kerry went from single digits in the polls to winning Iowa? Find that answer and you will know what Dean lost so bad.

Dean was a bubble.. in my opinion it just popped at the wrong time. His scream hardened the casing and bam.. it was shattered.

Ron Paul has a different kind of support. It is not HIM that fuels his campaign it is the supporters, a bottom up campaign. Thats point one. To the supporters prop up Dr. Paul because of his message. Tried and true. The Constitution. End the war just comes naturally to republicans. Small Fed means no war. Its either a country adventure or nothing.

you are for war cause you make money off of it. That is who took over the Republican party. Money makers. If you actually had to fight in the war your perception would be different. You are a pansy.. you fight children or teens on the internet. YAY Pac.. EgoManiac = lonely man. :(
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get your fat flabby crack over to iraq.




and don't come back ya neo-con hack.




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You honestly believe this speech killed Howard Dean?

You have to be an idiot to believe that. Really!



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If it had NOTHING to do with it, then what was the Media's interest in playing it over and over and over and over again ad nauseum?
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Tell me please how a Antiwar "racist" Libertarian in Republican clothing can do better than Dean when the Republican Party is NOT FUCKING ANTIWAR?

Go for it...

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Diebold

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Now, STFU, PACNfudge NAZI
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Howie has been a douche for a long time.

We thought we were done with him when we sent him packing from Vermont, but nooooooooo...
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Pacarooni,How's it hanging?

LoL

Dean's Downful (imo) was media driven before Iowa as Iowa
news reported that dean did not believe Iowa was all that important.The local channels were alleged to have aired repeatedly during a 24 hour cycle an old clip of his(dean's) comment about Iowa being insignificant to winning.

I think Iowa voted accordingly/plus he came off as a madman
to some,at the time an Idealist Lib by default myself i fell for it,he lost then became a party shill whom they ultimately ousted.

I still have the copy of the NYT of dean's photo in profile looking very defeated.


Oh well,that was part of my crash course in reality & politics


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When attention seekers are ignored they finally go away.
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When attention seekers are ignored they finally go away.





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