WHY DID DEMOCRAT ANTIWAR HOWARD DEAN LOSE SO BAD? TELL ME PLEASE! Its ok to go ask your Moms. | |
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PACNWguy (OP) User ID: 60206 United States 12/26/2007 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must be worrying or else you wouldn't have to post these threads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 340529Not a bit. Just having fun rattling the moron cages. I am already drafting my "I OWN YOU IDIOTS" posts. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
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PACNWguy (OP) User ID: 60206 United States 12/26/2007 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hopefully RP won't flip out on stage the way Howard Dean did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 105726That is what the woo woos want to blame it on, but in reality, the antiwar support wasnt enough to get him a win in a tiny state. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
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mal'ak User ID: 30404 United States 12/26/2007 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not so much about anti-war as it is pro-Constitution... but torture advocates and neo-con shills like you would know little about that! "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." --Justice William O. Douglas "There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless." --Niccolò Machiavelli "I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep" --Robert Frost :phamask: |
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PACNWguy (OP) User ID: 60206 United States 12/26/2007 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not so much about anti-war as it is pro-Constitution... Quoting: mal'akbut torture advocates and neo-con shills like you would know little about that! Pro constitution. IF IT WASNT FOR ANTIWAR,,,RON PAUL WOULDNT HAVE THE SUPPORT HE HAD IN 88. What a joke. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 345708 United States 12/26/2007 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here you have the number one ANTIWAR Democrat that ever walked the earth. He was the Moveon.org poster boy of all time. Quoting: PACNWguyHe raised more money on the internet than anyone in history and double what Ron Paul has raised. ($41 million) He pulled in three times the supporters that Ron Paul has with new voters and independents. He created a "fire storm" of new registered voter applications in IA and NH. He was a previous Governor and had plently of "hands-on" experience. He was polling at 28% going into the primaries. Then.... He placed 3rd in IA and then retired as a bonafide loser. :doglaugh: Voter fraud. Skull and Crossbones election was the deal. Duh. Kerry was in single digits before Iowa. Tell me how he got where he did so fast. and you will know why dean did not. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 345632 United States 12/26/2007 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Early on, Dean was the de facto front-runner. In my opinion, he lost because he pissed of the MSM. He stated his intention to break up the media cartel. At that time the MSM still had enormous influence over the general public. So what did they do? The found footage of an enthusiastic yell by Dean at a rally, and latched onto it like tics on a dog's asshole, playing it over and over and over on radio and television, each time with some talking head questioning Deans "electability". Like I said, the trash MSM still had quite a bit of clout, so it worked. |
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mal'ak User ID: 30404 United States 12/26/2007 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not so much about anti-war as it is pro-Constitution... Quoting: PACNWguybut torture advocates and neo-con shills like you would know little about that! Pro constitution. IF IT WASNT FOR ANTIWAR,,,RON PAUL WOULDNT HAVE THE SUPPORT HE HAD IN 88. What a joke. Like I said, you wouldn't know about that. "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." --Justice William O. Douglas "There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless." --Niccolò Machiavelli "I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep" --Robert Frost :phamask: |
PACNWguy (OP) User ID: 60206 United States 12/26/2007 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Early on, Dean was the de facto front-runner. In my opinion, he lost because he pissed of the MSM. He stated his intention to break up the media cartel. At that time the MSM still had enormous influence over the general public. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 345632So what did they do? The found footage of an enthusiastic yell by Dean at a rally, and latched onto it like tics on a dog's asshole, playing it over and over and over on radio and television, each time with some talking head questioning Deans "electability". Like I said, the trash MSM still had quite a bit of clout, so it worked. So if the media shows Ron Paul stuttering that will end his campaign? Howard Dean collapsed due to his supporter's strength. They were internet savy, young, highly motivated and passionate beyond belief, but there weren't enough of them to make a difference. Ron Paul doesnt have half of what Howard Dean had. You kids need to wake up and go outside and take a look around. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY "I inherated and I am Great!" |
mal'ak User ID: 30404 United States 12/26/2007 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voter fraud. Skull and Crossbones election was the deal. Duh. Kerry was in single digits before Iowa. Tell me how he got where he did so fast. and you will know why dean did not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 345708One of the cousins (Yes they are cousins) was going to win because TPTB wanted a bonesman. Bush was already incumbent, so the decision was easy. "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." --Justice William O. Douglas "There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless." --Niccolò Machiavelli "I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep" --Robert Frost :phamask: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 337302 Canada 12/26/2007 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "So if the media shows Ron Paul stuttering that will end his campaign? Howard Dean collapsed due to his supporter's strength. They were internet savy, young, highly motivated and passionate beyond belief, but there weren't enough of them to make a difference. Ron Paul doesnt have half of what Howard Dean had. You kids need to wake up and go outside and take a look around. " pacnfudge go eat a banana monkey. |
CaGeD User ID: 345079 United States 12/26/2007 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Early on, Dean was the de facto front-runner. In my opinion, he lost because he pissed of the MSM. He stated his intention to break up the media cartel. At that time the MSM still had enormous influence over the general public. Quoting: PACNWguySo what did they do? The found footage of an enthusiastic yell by Dean at a rally, and latched onto it like tics on a dog's asshole, playing it over and over and over on radio and television, each time with some talking head questioning Deans "electability". Like I said, the trash MSM still had quite a bit of clout, so it worked. So if the media shows Ron Paul stuttering that will end his campaign? Howard Dean collapsed due to his supporter's strength. They were internet savy, young, highly motivated and passionate beyond belief, but there weren't enough of them to make a difference. Ron Paul doesnt have half of what Howard Dean had. You kids need to wake up and go outside and take a look around. Deans internet support was the best money could buy. Get real Pac. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 345708 United States 12/26/2007 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So Pac have you figured out how Kerry went from single digits in the polls to winning Iowa? Find that answer and you will know what Dean lost so bad. Dean was a bubble.. in my opinion it just popped at the wrong time. His scream hardened the casing and bam.. it was shattered. Ron Paul has a different kind of support. It is not HIM that fuels his campaign it is the supporters, a bottom up campaign. Thats point one. To the supporters prop up Dr. Paul because of his message. Tried and true. The Constitution. End the war just comes naturally to republicans. Small Fed means no war. Its either a country adventure or nothing. you are for war cause you make money off of it. That is who took over the Republican party. Money makers. If you actually had to fight in the war your perception would be different. You are a pansy.. you fight children or teens on the internet. YAY Pac.. EgoManiac = lonely man. :( |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 345571 United States 12/26/2007 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You honestly believe this speech killed Howard Dean? Quoting: PACNWguyYou have to be an idiot to believe that. Really! If it had NOTHING to do with it, then what was the Media's interest in playing it over and over and over and over again ad nauseum? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 225509 United States 12/26/2007 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me please how a Antiwar "racist" Libertarian in Republican clothing can do better than Dean when the Republican Party is NOT FUCKING ANTIWAR? Quoting: PACNWguyGo for it... :doglaugh: Diebold [link to www.commondreams.org] Now, STFU, PACNfudge NAZI |
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SatiricAxiom User ID: 292560 United States 12/26/2007 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pacarooni,How's it hanging? LoL Dean's Downful (imo) was media driven before Iowa as Iowa news reported that dean did not believe Iowa was all that important.The local channels were alleged to have aired repeatedly during a 24 hour cycle an old clip of his(dean's) comment about Iowa being insignificant to winning. I think Iowa voted accordingly/plus he came off as a madman to some,at the time an Idealist Lib by default myself i fell for it,he lost then became a party shill whom they ultimately ousted. I still have the copy of the NYT of dean's photo in profile looking very defeated. Oh well,that was part of my crash course in reality & politics Peace to You Sax "It isn't about what you & I think, it's about what is." |
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