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I am D4RK KN1GHT

 
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I am D4RK KN1GHT
If anyone knows how to get a message to him


I can say that what he wants to know about the operation in Desert Storm is true. It did happen. I did not see photos of the apparition itself, but, I did see photos of Iraqi's troops surrendering by the thousands...I normally would not have even see those photos, the dude that had them was a spook, pretty high up, but when he came home from the war he was "not himself" so to speak, thus he was not as careful with his mouth as he normally was. He showed the photos of the surrendering troops and was laughing about how easy it was to scare them and make them surrender.

I saw the other information about the operation D4RK KN1GHT that was made public, that jibs pretty much with what I knew about the mass surrenders and really explains the comments from my buddy about "scaring them"...I did wonder at the time what exactly had scared these battle harded Iraqi soldiers.....that was a mistake cause he realized he said too much and he clammed up..he said they surrendered because they too hated Saddam (which was the party line) but I swear, the first thing he said LAUGHING was that they surrendered because they were SCARED.

Putting together the photos AND his specialty*intel*, his comments AND what I have read recently about D4RK KN1GHT I think that we have a pretty good case for your theory being likely. But sorry, I saw those photos AFTER the war when he was still psyched out...where they are now I have no idea, and he would NEVER ever admit he said such a thing to me.

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Perhaps there are others here at GLP who know of this and can add to my message.
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Have you tried ATS?
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Have you tried ATS?
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I am not a member there and don't want to join and was afraid to mention that place as I thought it was a banned name around here. Please, if you are hooked into there, pass my message. I cannot help the "mission" any more than what I posted here but thought he'd like to know, he's not nuts.
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What the heck are you talking about? I recognize most of the major schools of woowooism, but this dark knight stuff is new to me. Explain.
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Have you tried ATS?

I am not a member there and don't want to join and was afraid to mention that place as I thought it was a banned name around here. Please, if you are hooked into there, pass my message. I cannot help the "mission" any more than what I posted here but thought he'd like to know, he's not nuts.
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i sent him a message for you..but i don't know when he may get it..he hasn't been on in a month almost
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Have you tried ATS?

I am not a member there and don't want to join and was afraid to mention that place as I thought it was a banned name around here. Please, if you are hooked into there, pass my message. I cannot help the "mission" any more than what I posted here but thought he'd like to know, he's not nuts.

i sent him a message for you..but i don't know when he may get it..he hasn't been on in a month almost
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Thanks, just copy my message to him. I think I pretty much figured out what he was "told" and I'm certain that it is in some way related to the events in Iraq the first time, (meaning dry run.)

To be honest I do realize my friend thought that it was funny that the soldiers surrendered because they were "scared" but despite his INTEL work (for 20 years) he is not the brightest penny in the roll...meaning he is such a concrete thinker that it would never occur to him that this can be used for other purposes...a lot of INTEL types are like that...but I see the possibilites...

JESUS IS COMING

look busy.


(funny, my friend loves Jesus too, so even with what he KNOWS, I'm sure he'll be on that hilltop bowing and scraping...that is, if they use Jesus...and not ETs)
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The D4RK KN1GHT insists it is merely a flesh wound.
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What the heck are you talking about? I recognize most of the major schools of woowooism, but this dark knight stuff is new to me. Explain.
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The long and the very short of it is basically a dry run for a what GLP folk around here call project blue beam (I have no idea if that is the real name for it) but 41 was in the CIA when it was developed and president when it was tested. Apparently, it worked.

In a way it was pretty cool reading DKs stuff because I had always wondered what the hell my friend was saying....SCARED makes sense now.

(at the time there were not enough American troops on the ground to be scaring the shit of the Iraqi troops so I knew it had to be something else...and I knew his bullshit answer about the Iraqi soldiers hating Saddam so much they just deserted in MASSIVE (I mean THOUSANDS at a time..I saw the pics of them all lined up)numbers did not make sense either...but this DK stuff makes total sense....they were scared...Musta thought Allah was on the side of the Americans...LOL wonder if Allah told them to surrender???
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The D4RK KN1GHT insists it is merely a flesh wound.
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Well that's good news (I think).

Maybe they'll use different things for different people...Jesus here and Buddha there, Allah there and ET somewhere else Idol1

All I know, is for the uneducated supersticious Iraqi peasant soldiers, apparently it worked. (as it will for many many people in the U.S. and elsewhere.)
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Do you mean in the first Gulf War?
Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
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Yeah I remember that thread on ATS. I followed it until the end. It became pretty clear that DK was a hoaxer though after several tens of pages. But still, definitely a great one up there with Aussie Bloke and Galactic Tsunami.
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Do you mean in the first Gulf War?
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yeah the first gulf war..

I don't find it clear that Dk was a hoaxer especially when he was speaking about the 41 issue. I also didn't see where he was saying anything way our of line either....and it was WAY mild compared to this place. While I don't think that it is going to be so easy to pull out and "survive" like they plan to...(and trust me there are PLENTY of survivalist sites)

I also do not find his particular scenario particulary impossible or outrageous. I do feel there may be some earth changes that will cause the "governments" to attempt to control the masses, what better way to do it? (to ensure their control and their own survival)



That part (the 41 issue) I know is likely true.
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Actually isn't there also some thread on here about a new technology for commercials that inject some sort of voice in your mind?

Putting things together then it makes sense how the Iraqis knew it was Allah (I mean how would they KNOW it was Allah since they've never actually seen him) unless it went along with some voice technology?

Historically MANY MANY commercial applications have arisen out of military technology in war time.
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yeah, the 41 thing is true, put the voices of God in their head or something, I don't know about the holograms, wouldn't surprise me.
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So why havent any of the Iraqi soldiers come out and talked about this?

and there were 4-500,000 coalition troops there and only one talks about it?

uh huh

nice story though, it would make a good movie
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So why havent any of the Iraqi soldiers come out and talked about this?

and there were 4-500,000 coalition troops there and only one talks about it?

uh huh

nice story though, it would make a good movie
 Quoting: floydian slip



I tend to think it's not just one....the whole conspiracy and ideas about project blue beam came from somewhere.

When this occured there were not many coalition troops in Iraq (which makes one source of fear incompatable with the effects) and in all likely hood not many of "our" troops who were there would have ever seen it. From what I understoond from my friend he and his intel weinies would just happen to be driving around and literally thousands of Iraqis would surrender to them and they'd call other troops forward to handle the surrender...that is ONE odd case of being in the right place at the right time quite often..so it's likely if there was a big giant Allah in the sky these intel weinies used sat. data to pinpoint troop locations, zapped them with Allah and swept in to scoop up the surrenders.

One other thing I did see, (by snooping and not being shown) is that my friend was involved in interrogating the Iraqi officers. I have absolutely NO idea why he had the documents in his posession, if it was kosher (I'd guess not but it amazes me because he was NOT a rule breaker, toted the party line, still does...) but I snooped in some of his stuff one say, saw LOTS and lots of other photos in particular of the after math of our bombing of the highway of death....which made me sick to my stomach, but I did see photo copies of interrogation documents which sadly I did not have enough time to read well enough to get the big idea. Some of it was about troop locations, but others were about conditions of surrender and to be honest I did not understand it all nor did I wish to get caught. I spent way too much time looking at the photos. Most Americans will NEVER know what really happened on the highway of death, but if any other soldiers are posting here, they will know I am not lying and if I am not lying about that then....
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Actually isn't there also some thread on here about a new technology for commercials that inject some sort of voice in your mind?

Putting things together then it makes sense how the Iraqis knew it was Allah (I mean how would they KNOW it was Allah since they've never actually seen him) unless it went along with some voice technology?

Historically MANY MANY commercial applications have arisen out of military technology in war time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281673


Can you hear me now?:

Death Ray Replaced By The Voice of God

LRAD is basically a focused beam of sound. Originally, it was designed to emit a very loud sound. Anyone whose head was touched by this beam, heard a painfully loud sound. Anyone standing next to them heard nothing. But those hit by the beam promptly fled, or fell to the ground in pain. Permanent hearing loss is possible if the beam is kept on a person for several seconds, but given the effect the sound usually has on people (they move, quickly), it is unlikely to happen. LRAD works. It was recently used off Somalia, by a cruise ship, to repel pirates.

It appears that some of the troops in Iraq are using "spoken" (as opposed to "screeching") LRAD to mess with enemy fighters. Islamic terrorists tend to be superstitious and, of course, very religious. LRAD can put the "word of God" into their heads. If God, in the form of a voice that only you can hear, tells you to surrender, or run away, what are you gonna do? [link to www.redicecreations.com]


I'll be over here trying to look busy.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit.
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I was in Saudi before and after the war. I saw many photos from Iraq from during the war. What scared the shit out of these soldiers was the carpet bombing. I saw pictures of areas that had been bombed and there were body parts everywhere. Arms in trees and heads on the ground. Torsos mangled. It was horrific. This is what scared them. I saw the photos of them surrendering, also. Just like the OP said, thousands of soldiers, very young, lined up row after row, sitting on the ground, waiting to be taken into custody. But I think it was the carpet bombing that scared them.
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Also, as to the question about why we have not heard from Iraqi soldiers about seeing Allah..well I've not had the opportunity to meet any Iraqis who surrendered, and even if I had, to be honest prior to my putting things together I would not have thought to ask them this, and, let's be honest if you were an Iraqi soldier who surrendered because Allah told you to...would you tell anyone?
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project bluebeam.
add voice.

you get celien? dion with elvis singing together.

remember back. wasn't there like an "invisible dome" over baghdad? or some reporters were saying it was "like" and invisible dome was there. they said that it looked like it was being protected. some on glp even talked about it way back and wondered. shock and awe. maybe they did it? awed and then mass killed and mass buried?

nah. we're the "good guys".
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project bluebeam.
add voice.

you get celien? dion with elvis singing together.

remember back. wasn't there like an "invisible dome" over baghdad? or some reporters were saying it was "like" and invisible dome was there. they said that it looked like it was being protected. some on glp even talked about it way back and wondered. shock and awe. maybe they did it? awed and then mass killed and mass buried?

nah. we're the "good guys".
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I don't recall what you're talking about but I don't doubt it. The only mass death/burial I can say for sure happened in Iraq by Americans was on the highway of death...I saw the photos. What happened was this (from my friend's mouth after a few beers and I had to find a way to bring it up that did not reveal that I had been snooping in his stuff, I think I said "hey I heard from this other guy".... and he spilled his guts) There is a highway that ran between Iraq and Kuwait. If you recall when Saddam invaded Kuwait he sent thousands of Iraqis to "settle" in Kuwait. When we got into Kuwait City (my friend was first in with his group) the Iraqis started packing up to go home. Apparently they took anything and everything they could get their hands on....you name it they were hauling it back to Iraq...in whatever they could find to drive...including mercedes ect. the highway became this massive traffic jam. We blocked both ends of it and called in fly boys to straff it...they did. ANYONE and EVERYTHING on that highway was bombed to hell and back.

I asked him if he was tempted to take any souvenirs (I was especially interested in carpets ect...that I could buy off him) he said NO of course not...so I ask him what the hell did they do with the mess on the highway? He said the called in massive ground moving equipment dug a huge ditch along the highway and pushed everything into it and covered it up.

I don't know if that last bit was true, but the photos I saw were clearly of LOTS AND LOTS of dead people, some in pretty crispy condition...in cars, trucks, military and civilian looking, a LONG row clearly on a road, totally destroyed...It was a HUGE pile of photos clearly taken as this group went roving along the destruction. Whether or not the photos were personal or official I was literally shook to my bones. He still has no idea I have seen his photos.
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So why havent any of the Iraqi soldiers come out and talked about this?

and there were 4-500,000 coalition troops there and only one talks about it?

uh huh

nice story though, it would make a good movie
 Quoting: floydian slip

T;ve taked with a few vets who were there and they all said or mentioned indirectly the use of psy-ops. I wasn't able to get any more than that. As a thought, anything along this line would have been undertaken by a very small group and they would not even be military, imo. Also it would have taken place above the Iraqi lines far in advance of the military advance. Who knows, maybe it was the B-52s?
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So why havent any of the Iraqi soldiers come out and talked about this?

and there were 4-500,000 coalition troops there and only one talks about it?

uh huh

nice story though, it would make a good movie

T;ve taked with a few vets who were there and they all said or mentioned indirectly the use of psy-ops. I wasn't able to get any more than that. As a thought, anything along this line would have been undertaken by a very small group and they would not even be military, imo. Also it would have taken place above the Iraqi lines far in advance of the military advance. Who knows, maybe it was the B-52s?
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I tend to think that as far as the military was involved was doing what my friend did...show up to accept the surrenders...I do think he knew what it was that was scaring the Iraqis, but I don't think he directly perpetrated it...although he was pretty high up and another dude with him I knew pretty well too...lifers you could say big time spooks...well my friend, like I said, did not come home from the war with all his "cookies" and I know for a fact that he secretly sought help OFF base and paid for it out of pocket because any spook that goes to get that kind of help on base is going to loose his job. I know that he struggled for some time and he did get passed over for the BIG rank and did retire, now the other dude with him, that is another matter...THIS guy went on to WAY bigger things being installed in GEORGIA (he was fluent in Russian) as a...damm what was it they called him...some sort of Embassy worker but he was really a spook. He came out of it OK...
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I was in Saudi before and after the war. I saw many photos from Iraq from during the war. What scared the shit out of these soldiers was the carpet bombing. I saw pictures of areas that had been bombed and there were body parts everywhere. Arms in trees and heads on the ground. Torsos mangled. It was horrific. This is what scared them. I saw the photos of them surrendering, also. Just like the OP said, thousands of soldiers, very young, lined up row after row, sitting on the ground, waiting to be taken into custody. But I think it was the carpet bombing that scared them.
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What my friend was doing was before the big push in bombing, but I know what you're saying, I saw those photos too. I don't think that after 7 years of war with Iran (we funded both sides of that one) that these fellows would have been so easily cowed by carpet bombs or any other kinds of bombs...they did bomb and murder the shit our of each other for 7 entire years and yet we get them to surrender en mass before any real bomb actions had happened?
I AM SURE that later on in the conflict that SOME of the surrenders had to do with war action...but remember the report WE saw on the news or were given to us by other sources, would not have known about the VOICE OF GOD, and it's not likely anyone who heard it would admit that was why they surrendered....so here we got a nice tidy media report of all the cowardly Iraqi soldiers laying down their weapons and begging to be taken into custody...yeah right, these same dudes who fought tooth and nail with Iran for 7 years just roll over for us? They hate us more than anyone else on earth, even Iran!!!
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Wait a minute! There can only be one dark knight. I am the only BATMAN around here!
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So why havent any of the Iraqi soldiers come out and talked about this?

and there were 4-500,000 coalition troops there and only one talks about it?

uh huh

nice story though, it would make a good movie
 Quoting: floydian slip

how many who were over their died or have gulf war syndrome?
heard tell it was a lot more than saddam ever killed. dead people (on either side) don't talk.
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Blue Beam Allah.."I am very displeased with you! + immediatly followed by massive B52 mother of all carpet bombings = Iraqis surrendering in droves to anybody % anything.
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So why havent any of the Iraqi soldiers come out and talked about this?

and there were 4-500,000 coalition troops there and only one talks about it?

uh huh

nice story though, it would make a good movie

how many who were over their died or have gulf war syndrome?
heard tell it was a lot more than saddam ever killed. dead people (on either side) don't talk.
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We're talking about the first go when 41 was in charge..I was told that they COULD have had Saddam that time but they were told not to...I gathered that they actually had him but were told to turn him loose (although this was not stated emphatically, just implied)...seems that 41 listened to Israel which claimed whacking Saddam would destablize the region...44 ain't so bright....and lookie what happened.
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Talk about shock and awe.
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Did they use conventional weapons in the carpet bombing?
Guns and bullets, I mean?

If the whole road was hit with a microwave beam and people's heads and bodies started exploding as the beams passed over them, maybe that would inspire a mass surrender.

I know an ex-Gulf I vet who mentioned having seen terrible things done with a microwave-type thing.
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So why havent any of the Iraqi soldiers come out and talked about this?

and there were 4-500,000 coalition troops there and only one talks about it?

uh huh

nice story though, it would make a good movie

how many who were over their died or have gulf war syndrome?
heard tell it was a lot more than saddam ever killed. dead people (on either side) don't talk.



We're talking about the first go when 41 was in charge..I was told that they COULD have had Saddam that time but they were told not to...I gathered that they actually had him but were told to turn him loose (although this was not stated emphatically, just implied)...seems that 41 listened to Israel which claimed whacking Saddam would destablize the region...44 ain't so bright....and lookie what happened.
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yes, talking of the first gulf war when 41 was pres. six weeks and out. many of the soldiers that were there ended up with gulf war syndrome and died, some say they died of whatever was in the vaccine cocktails they were given, vaccines to prevent poisoning?





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