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Anonymous Coward
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11/21/2009 11:41 PM
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All cigs will be FSC by end of the year. I couldnt stand the cigs now. I bought a tobacco pipe and took the tobacco from the cigs and found that I can take a couple puffs and be satisfied for a few hours compared to having a cig so often.

I feel so much better and I really think I can quit because I have found that whatever is in the paper is the most addictive nasty part of a cig itself. If you have a hard time putting down the cigs even though they make you feel so bad, try this until you can give it up!!
Anonymous Coward
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11/22/2009 12:03 AM
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yea you can see 2 rings if you look at the cig in a light. more poison, and it tastes like shit!
Rebel
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11/23/2009 12:08 AM
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Every Cigarette package being PRODUCED in the USA, has to COMPLY it's the LAW.

NO NOTICE to the Public that was advertised..they just did it..and

For every single person who is getting the headaches..It is from these.. WHO knows what CHEMICALS they are shoving in em that they arent telling us about..CUZ last time i checked PAPER burns..and adding a So called extra band of paper ..isnt gonna slow em down. wtf
REGARDLESS of what the lady at philp morris told me...
Rebel
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11/23/2009 12:12 AM
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Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

Why has the news not picked up on this????
 Quoting: Craig 821229


That's because the LIBERAL MEDIA isnt reporting anything that this administration is doing....

This all boils down to thining out the herd..bambam, will make sure he kills off many of us... that's their way..Depleting the ones who think for themselves and dont want GOVT tellin us what to do... Think about it!

This admin is behind many underhanded tactics... the Cigarette tampering afroare just another brilliant idea....
Anonymous Coward
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11/23/2009 03:39 AM
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There you go :

1.4 HOW CAN VINYL ACETATE AFFECT MY HEALTH?
People who were exposed to vinyl acetate in air for short periods
complained of irritation to their eyes, nose, and throat. One in nine
volunteers who breathed air containing 4 ppm of vinyl acetate for 2 minutes
had throat irritation. Several volunteers exposed to 72 ppm of vinyl acetate
in air for 30 minutes reported coughing and hoarseness and eye irritation. No
health effects were found in workers who were exposed to levels around 10 ppm
of vinyl acetate in work room air for an average of 15 years of employment.
However, we do not know if health effects would occur in people exposed to
low levels for longer periods.


[link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]


It is good to read the whole thing and to know the trues!

I will NOT quit smoking because I know that smoking is NOT bad for me, just the contrary!

But adding a toxin like this to the cigarettes is in my opinion criminal!

I will not touch these cigarettes!
REBEL
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11/24/2009 10:10 AM
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SIGN THE PETITION to REPEAL this FSC!!!


[link to www.thepetitionsite.com]


Tell The GOVT to leave our Rights alone!
Anonymous Coward
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11/24/2009 10:16 AM
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I have e-mailed everyone from our governor down, and there was NO research done on the chemical additive to the FSC cigarettes. They have no idea what is in them but "think" the chemical was added to the paper. They pass this law and give no choice, then don't even know what's in them? Can anyone say "depopulation program?".
 Quoting: disgusted 435782


They do actually give you a textual clue on the packets here in England. Pictorial clues are also being used for the illiterate.

PS sorry for sarcasm.
openeyedfool
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11/25/2009 01:45 AM
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whatever they're doing to the cigarettes, i can tell you it's been a long time coming. They have been sooo anti tobacco for these last few years that i find it completely repulsive. Did you know that they're trying to inform people of "third hand smoke", Which is completely ridiculous!!!! all of this is an effort to make us WILLINGLY quit smoking, (you know, so the nation doesn't go into nicotine RAGE). It is also a test to see how the general populace is to the power of suggestion, it sounds kind of ridiculous, but they are creating a Matrix before us as we speak! People, I urge you to save a bundle, roll your own, say fuck these lame attempts of oppression, and show them that we stand for our daughters and sons and fathers and grandfathers who gave their lives for the freedoms that these sly and greedy assholes are trying to take away from us!!!! Might i add, FUCK LAWSUITS, AND FUCK INSURANCE COMPANIES!!!!
Anonymous Coward
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11/28/2009 11:23 PM
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Anonymous Coward
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11/28/2009 11:30 PM
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I hadn't heard anything about FSC at all until a recent visit to OH and my niece told me they are putting carpet glue in cigs now. I had to buy some while I was there and have been sick since. I am now back in NC where they haven't started this yet and back to the none FSC smokes. Much much better. NC charges outrageous cig taxes but it helluvalot better than FSC.
 Quoting: in NC 824251



Oh kewl, i just posted about this as i was in nc for the thanksgiving holidays and as i noted i bought five packs there and they wouldnt stay lit, i was in western nc and these packs say fsc right above the bar code, these were marlboro lights
chatterbox
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11/29/2009 11:56 AM
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not only do these cigs go out constantly and leave a bad taste in your mouth but they give me BAD headaches. is there ne way we as smokers can sign a petition and send to congress or someone. i'm sure every1 who smokes would sign they would have to take notice..... right?????
connihouston
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11/29/2009 12:29 PM
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they are adding even MORE TOXINS to our cigs. what can we do to get the old ones back? u may have found older ones without FIRE SAFETY COMMISSION but, i live in ms and there are NO MORE GOOD ones here anywhere. all of us smokers are furious at government,FSC,cigarette companies...............WE THE PEOPLE..............WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR RIGHTS?
Anonymous Coward
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11/29/2009 01:39 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.
 Quoting: PICK 346986

fsc is carpet glue
madmomma
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11/29/2009 10:49 PM
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not only do these cigs go out constantly and leave a bad taste in your mouth but they give me BAD headaches. is there ne way we as smokers can sign a petition and send to congress or someone. i'm sure every1 who smokes would sign they would have to take notice..... right?????
 Quoting: chatterbox 829761



They wouldnt listen...they are trying to speed up the process and make sure that come hell or high water...all us smokers die one way or another...already had to switch brands...I say when I cant find a smoke that is FSC free...Im done ;0( whatever
Anonymous Coward
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11/29/2009 11:06 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

Why has the news not picked up on this????


That's because the LIBERAL MEDIA isnt reporting anything that this administration is doing....

This all boils down to thining out the herd..bambam, will make sure he kills off many of us... that's their way..Depleting the ones who think for themselves and dont want GOVT tellin us what to do... Think about it!

This admin is behind many underhanded tactics... the Cigarette tampering afroare just another brilliant idea....
 Quoting: Rebel 825001



true. but not for fsc

NY started it in 2005, and other states slowly have joined
Anonymous Coward
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11/29/2009 11:24 PM
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Take the Tobacco from your cigs and put it in a tobacco pipe. You will find that your craving for a smoke will be satisfied with only a couple tokes.

You will find you dont crave as many cigs. And you will feel better and realize the "addiction" was in the paper. You will smoke way less. And may fine you can even quit them. Try it!
lurch

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11/30/2009 12:31 AM
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another reason the government doesnt have your best interests at heart. who cares if cigs kill now they dont even taste good while doing it. they even did it to lucky strike, BATARDS!!!!!!!!
quoting someone only means you're incapable of expressing an idea on your own.
Anonymous Coward
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11/30/2009 09:49 AM
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Anonymous Coward
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11/30/2009 03:25 PM
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Well now the American Spirit brand , I just found out is not EXEMPT from FSC..as Ive been smoking them for the past month, and now see that they are GOING out..and am constantly re-lighting them..only to look and see the "FSC" by the BAR CODE.

SO much for that idea! Stop this GOVT Control! yoda
Anonymous Coward
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11/30/2009 03:29 PM
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Chatterbox, THERE is indeed a Petition...Please SIGN THIS and pass it on to everyone you happen to know who smokes..


[link to www.thepetitionsite.com]
camel girl
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11/30/2009 05:23 PM
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My brand cigarretes have the fsc on label and for the past few days I have been totally depleated of my energy and my lung feels bruised. I can actually feel it in my lungs. If I stand for a period of time my heart starts palpitating. It's worse if I smoke a cigarrette. Can anyone tell me what can we do. I feel this is our government exercising their right now to choose who lives and who dies. rant
BlackjackDealer
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12/01/2009 04:00 PM
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I work in a Casino dealing blackjack. I have herd about this new law recently going into effect. My question to you all is, If smoking a fsc cigarette is worse and contains more bad toxins, How much worse is this for me being around smokers all day breathing second hand smoke? I feel like the last few months something has effected my appetite, but im not sure what.
rclark23
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12/02/2009 10:25 AM
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Read and sign petition here:
Repeal Fire Safe Cigarette LawsTarget
Governor Ed RendellSponsored
by: Citizens Against Fire Safe Cigarettes
Link: [link to www.thepetitionsite.com]

Ingrediants:
4) The added and higher level chemicals contained in FSC cigarettes has proven to be more toxic than regular cigarettes and cause increased health related problems for smokers. Symptoms/conditions include, but are not limited to: Nausea, Sores in mouth and throat, Dry throat, constant headaches, extreme coughing, tightness in the chest, vomiting, body aches, pain in the abdomen and respiratory conditions including asthma and bronchitis.

a. The Harvard School of Health reported that when comparing NY Cigarettes (FSC) versus Regular Cigarettes, the FSC cigarettes produced 13.9% more Naphthalene and 11.4% more carbon monoxide than regular cigarettes.[1] Naphthalene is commonly found in moth balls, and exposure in high amounts can result in %u201CSymptoms of acute exposure include headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, malaise, confusion, anemia, jaundice, convulsions, and coma.%u201D[2] Therefore, it has been proven that FSC cigarettes contain higher levels of chemicals that are harmful to smokers.

b. Phillip Morris USA has reported that the Adhesive ethylene vinyl acetate and polyvinyl acetate are used in the non-tobacco ingredients of cigarettes produced as a Side-seam adhesive. However, Phillip Morris USA fails to distinguish the differences in levels between regular and FSC cigarettes. The amount does not exceed .6 % combined.[3] Since additional layers of paper are used in FSC cigarettes, more adhesive is needed in the form of ethylene vinyl acetate.
jeff
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12/02/2009 12:14 PM
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well let me tell you dumbass lawmakers something,your so fucking old you have to have a nametag so you wont forget your own name,you stopped smoking in public buildings not thinking you dumbasses that 90% percent of you retarded fuckers smoke.,.ha ha stupid,now when 80% percent of the smokers quit smoking because of this ,your going to lose alot of revenue and cause the economy to crash more than it is now.im getting something from my doctor today to quit smoking just because of the fsc cigs you motherfuckers put on us with out us knowing about it....your just too old and too fucking dumb to be making decisions for the people of the usa....land of the free.who the fuck come up with that.
Anonymous Coward
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12/02/2009 02:31 PM
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OK, another heads up!

All the cig filter tubes for roll yer own are also laced with this stuff, even the tubes that are made in Canada.

Now, the only way to get away from that krap is to use a pipe to smoke your tobacco, or switch to electronic cig.

I just got my first electronic cig starter kit from "ENVY" for $35.00 from my local tobacco shop. I don't know how they got them in so cheap, but I ain't complaining!

Now I'm gonna go get me a good tobacco pipe, and say goodbye to paper and filter tubes, and/or 'tailor made' cigarettes forever!



iamwith hiding
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12/02/2009 02:46 PM
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Heads up on another option!

You can go to your local 'head shop' and get what's called a 'dugout & bat, also known as a 'cigarette eliminator'. The dugout is for holding/carrying the tobacco (or pot), and the 'bat', (which looks like a cigarette) is for smoking what you load from the 'dugout'.

Best wishes!



hf
BlackjackDealer
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12/02/2009 04:52 PM
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OK, another heads up!

All the cig filter tubes for roll yer own are also laced with this stuff, even the tubes that are made in Canada.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 828476

Where is your source on this information? Everything I have read only says this applies to machine manufactured cigarettes. My brother switched to the Zig-Zag filter tubes and keeps telling me he noticed a huge difference. I saw him taking tobacoo out of his regular cigarettes and then rolling them, which I thought was weird, but he swears he its better and goes on and on about it. He smokes alot of weed also and I noticed a difference in his coughing. Before he would cough and cough and cough, I would get annoyed. Im not really sure if it got worse or not since the "fsc" cigarettes but I tell you I started noticing it recently. Now he does not cough and if he does it does not sound anywhere as bad as it was a few weeks ago. So what makes you say the zig-zag filter tubes are the same? I think maybe they might have a small amount of glue, hopefully not the carpet glue, something has to hold the paper stuck together, but no where near as much as there is now. Please tell me where you herd this? bump
Dave
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12/03/2009 12:35 AM
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i want the old cigs back fuck the government. fuck em all
crippled bazooka
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12/04/2009 12:49 AM
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Thank you Big Tobacco for helping me quick smoking!
I have found the electric ciggerette. I've had it for 48 hours and since I have only smoked 4 real ciggerettes. They give you the nicotine so you don't want a cigg. And the "smoke" is vaper like out a fog machine so its not bad for your lungs.

Didn't America go to war with England over taxes on Tobacco, isn't that war what created our country?

On a sidenote, I have 9 cartons of non FSC Marb Medium 100's. email me at crippledbazoka@yahoo.com


OK, another heads up!

All the cig filter tubes for roll yer own are also laced with this stuff, even the tubes that are made in Canada.

Now, the only way to get away from that krap is to use a pipe to smoke your tobacco, or switch to electronic cig.

I just got my first electronic cig starter kit from "ENVY" for $35.00 from my local tobacco shop. I don't know how they got them in so cheap, but I ain't complaining!

Now I'm gonna go get me a good tobacco pipe, and say goodbye to paper and filter tubes, and/or 'tailor made' cigarettes forever!



iamwith hiding
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Anonymous Coward
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12/04/2009 12:58 AM
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i want the old cigs back fuck the government. fuck em all
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