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FSC Cigarettes

 
Anonymous Coward
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10/09/2010 04:03 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.
 Quoting: PICK 346986

Carpet Glue
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10/09/2010 04:09 PM
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ya except for the feds raised the tax on 'loose' tabacco by $20 a pound last year!
 Quoting: novatRON 904863


There are some companies who are selling roll your own tobacco under a "Pipe Tobacco" label that is the same as the cigarette tobacco only with a slightly longer cut.
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10/09/2010 09:40 PM
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Just grow your own fucking tobacco already, it is really easy.
Anonymous Coward
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10/26/2010 04:54 AM
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SHOCKING!!! WATCH THIS---COPY AND PASTE(BELOW TITLE) INTO YOU TUBE SEARCH
Dr Jeffrey Wigand says NZ should be Smoke free by 2020

This man is a powerful anti-tobacco (former Brown and Williamson exec.)cheerleader. He is BIG TIME in favor of this FSC crap. It says so on his website. He has strong ties with the FDA. You are being lied to by the FDA and the CDC and the United States Government. They are poisoning you into submission to eradicate cigarettes all together. FSC is a cover-up to force you to stop. They are also adding chemicals to tobacco to slowly make you ill. It is very subtle as to not blow there EVIL clandestine cover up and PLAN.
Anonymous Coward
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10/28/2010 04:54 PM
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The fucking heads of these cigarettes fall off, WHILE STILL LIT. Please explain how they are going to save lives?

They smoke down to the ring of the retardant and the next thing you know the damn head falls off onto your clothes or wherever, burning through what they land on. That's entirely moronic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 436302

I totally agree with you I have that problem all the time with my cigs
Anonymous Coward
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11/01/2010 11:19 PM
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I feel violated. I am sick due to these cigarettes. I'm trying to figure out why our government would do this...and then I think...oh come on, it's all about control. They don't want us to stop smoking for they make good money taxing us to death...we are being experimented on without concern for our health as they proclaim...because if they really gave 2 shits, they'd ban cigarettes completely. Somehow and some way they plan to profit off our illnesses and our addiction. Rest assured, they don't give one iota of concern for anything outside of the almighty buck.
 Quoting: stef 850049





I agree 100% Think about it:
The gov't is in bed with health care and pharmaceutical companies.... Do the math. These new smokes came to Colorado late last year and I never made the connection between them and the sudden onset of coughing, headaches, dry mouth and constantly chapped lips til I found out about this additive.
What really makes me mad is my urge to keep smoking just to tell them that they're not ruling my life! F#@* them and their "knowing what's best for me." Thank you all for this post site.
uvLightning
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11/12/2010 01:32 AM
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yea, i hate it, but if you wanna "see" the actual chemical, i accidentally found out that the new FSC chemical flouresces under a black/uv light. its kinda gross, looks like it was sprayed on or something.... ugh i need to quit. dat
BO
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Just roll the FSC cigarette 4 or 5 times until some tobacco comes out the end then it will not go out when you smoke, it must be tightly rolled for the FSC to work,.. just untight,.. now you can smoke again, (with FSC chemicals).
Anonymous Coward
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01/02/2011 05:45 AM
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Just roll the FSC cigarette 4 or 5 times until some tobacco comes out the end then it will not go out when you smoke, it must be tightly rolled for the FSC to work,.. just untight,.. now you can smoke again, (with FSC chemicals).
 Quoting: BO 1214370

I piss on my pack, let it dry out = chemicals gone.
robint
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01/12/2011 01:17 PM
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can't find you anywhere online- your website is down-
Nonfsccigarette.com is proud to announce our newest url, clovecigs.com. Not only do we have non fsc cigarettes in all major brands, but we extremely excited to introduce clove cigarettes to our website. Our selection is only limited to Djarum cloves. We currently have a plethora of Blacks, Specials and Light Djarum cloves available for shipment today.

A great thing about nonfsccigarette.com and clovecigs.com is that we are located in Tijuana, Mexico . By operating out Tijuana Mexico we our on the USA border which will give us quicker delivery than most international companies. But even more important, is that we are not governed by USA laws. Our cloves and non FSC cigarettes will always be available for purchase. Cigarette manufacturers such as Phillip Morris and R.J. Reynolds produce their cigarettes in factories located in Mexico. Since non-FSC cigarettes are less expensive to make and our Mexican government does not interfere with us smokers, we are able to flourish in a non FSC world.

All our products are duty and tax free and we purchase them in bulk amounts, we are able to pass the savings on to our customers. Therefore, you can purchase genuine trademark brands at Duty Free prices.

Shipping cigarettes and cloves is completely legal. Even with congress’s new proposed bill, S.1147, which makes it illegal to mail cigarettes with the USA, it will not affect mailing cigarettes internationally into the USA. The purchases are made in accordance with international postal regulations and standards. Nonfsccigarette.com and clovecigs.com complies with all international trade and postal regulations. In addition, you must be at least 18-21 years of age (in some states 19) to order tobacco products.

Shipping is done by registered mail. Once you place an order and we ship your order, you will be emailed a confirmation code that you may use at usps.com and at www.correosdemexico.gob.mx to check your order .

With our proximity to the USA and more importantly are availability of cloves and non FSC cigarettes we are ideal for smokers who believe in having their own choice. Because what’s the alternative, smoking carpet glue?
 Quoting: Juan Guerrero 867965
robint
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I'm sick as a dog smoking these new clove cigarettes- my throat burns, my lungs hurt- that never happened before and I smoked cloves for years. I think a class action law suit is due but I'm sure they've covered their corrupt actions with good lawyers but it only takes one better lawyer who is pissed off- eventually there will be one. This is one of the most criminal abhorant situations and eventually the truth will come out.
drummerdave
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03/22/2011 12:34 PM
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You parasites who are puppets to the politicians and our government should shut the fuck up!! I CHOOSE to smoke and if it bothers you I am glad and hope you get really sick from my second hand smoke you douchebags!!! Like, what, your better than me cause I smoke!!! I really give a fuck!!! These scumbags who put this carpet glue are most likely the religious nutballs who think they have some connection to a higher power and they are the elite!!!So they think they are gonna save all the non belivers!! I got news for you. THERE IS NO GOD!!!!! yeah,I am sure it makes it easier to live with yourselves pretending that the talking snake is real!!! Mindless Puppets!!! you make me sicker than the carpet glue in my smokes. Fuck u and your GOD!!!! You actually belive that shit??? Its a fairy tale morons!!Like santa and the easter bunny....you probably belive in them too. Get a clue and stop forcing your warped views on the restm of us sane rational people!!!If your offended by this post than you are who I am talkin about. Oh BTW did I tell you to go fuck yourselves?? well go fuck yourselves!!!Educate yourselves too before you spew your ignorant babble.First its carpet glue in it next its your food and who knows what else. BTW the republican pricks are trying to cut funding to the FDC so it wont be long before it effects you too, Then youll be whining too. Wake the f up people!!! Read the MSDS on the shit they put in cigs and youll see how safe this shit is. I am sure you know someone who smokes...oh yeah your elites and dont do that right??? once more and finally F U douchebags!!!! [link to www.stateline.org]
Dairish
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05/25/2011 08:02 AM
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can't find you anywhere online- your website is down-
 Quoting: robint 1227443



I know another place www.azcigs.com they sell non FSC cigarettes from overseas. If you are not ready to smoke carpet glue you may try them as I did without regret.
Just some Guy.
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10/26/2011 12:10 PM
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I hate to point this out, but that whole Saltpeter thing is bullshit.

Straight from Wikipedia:

Many materials can be used to make the bands in the paper, including cellulosic or other polymeric materials. Different companies use different materials (including thicker bands of paper[citation needed]) for the ‘speed bumps’ in order to comply with regulations.[citation needed] Most commercial cigarette papers in fact use cellulosic and alginate bands[citation needed]; however many patents have been registered in the literature in relation to materials that could be used to make the bands, including EVA polymer ethylene vinyl acetate. When burned, the polymer of EVA becomes unstable, and the health risks of inhalation are not known.


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Some consumers in the United States claim they have found a noticeable difference in the taste of FSC cigarettes from non-FSC cigarettes, comparing it to a copper or metallic taste. Other symptoms reported include an itchy rash, (allergic reaction), severe headache, vomiting, diarrhea, mouth sores, and nose bleeds. There has been a rise in people rolling their own cigarettes instead of continuing to smoke FSC and there have also been petitions regarding FSC. One current petition has been signed by over 27,000 people that attest to the negatives of FSC cigarettes.
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03/27/2012 08:46 PM
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The chemicals in your now horrible tasting cigarettes are:

1) sodium metasilicate, Na2 SiO3, also known as water glass or liquid glass, it is used for metal and automotive repair, adhesives, disabling care engines, drilling fluids, concrete sealer, high temperature insulation, dyes, detergents, and waterproofing.

2) Ethylene vinyl acetate A thermoplastic used in hot glue procedures such as carpeting, foam rubber, and manufacturing of solar panels.

Test results available, conducted on rodents, clearly show the risks associated with 'Ethylene Vinyl Acetate copolymer emulsion based adhesive' to be a 'highly carcinogenic substance' triggering the cellular proliferation necessary for tumor development.

article from [link to Tobaccoes.com]
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03/27/2012 08:48 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.
 Quoting: PICK 346986


Yes, it is carpet glue. The bumps of carpet glue make the cigarette go out. I verified this with phillip morris when they first started doing this.
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03/27/2012 09:09 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.
 Quoting: PICK 346986


Yes, it is carpet glue. The bumps of carpet glue make the cigarette go out. I verified this with phillip morris when they first started doing this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13360021


EWWWWWWW!
scapegoat justification to tax hugely outrageously upon a select population to pay for the whole population who are sickened by any number of influences (even and wherewithal eventually natural causes; assuming that is even possible in this beyond control toxic world environment)...and a failing health care
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05/16/2012 01:37 AM
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For those of you who are completely compassionless, or think that putting these chemicals in cigarettes is okay let me just say this....

Murder is never okay. They put people in prison for that.

Think of it like this: If you had a friend who was obese because she ate too much sugar - do you think the answer is to put rat poisoning in her dessert?? This is the same rationale you are using, and it is ignorant, at best. Criminal is a more appropriate word.

Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost due to obese people and their medical needs. So what's next? The government starts putting lethal chemicals or rat poison in every bag and box of sugar sold in the nation? What the hell are we coming to? Hell is the right word. Hell on Earth. What if it was your son or daughter or grandmother or best friend that died, not knowing that the cigarettes she was smoking contained these rapid-killing chemicals? What if it happened while they were in the midst of weaning down toward their quit date? If it was before FSC days, they would have lived. Who has the right to take human life like that? What about alcohol? Are they going to start putting lethal chemicals in that also? Hey- less bar fights and wife beatings! Who gets to pronounce a death penalty on smokers, when smoking is legal? See, if they really wanted it to stop they would make it illegal. But then they wouldn't get to make millions off of their victims - many who became addicted before anyone really knew it wasn't good for us. This whole thing is a horrible wicked scam born out of greed, and it is seriously criminal. My question is this- why did our government allow cigarette manufacturers to continue putting addictive ingredients in amped-up quantities in cigarettes to begin with after becoming aware of it? They could've just said it was no longer allowed, and that was before FSC. Why didn't they do that? MONEY.

The absolute LEAST they could have done would have been to require a very large and bright sign be erected in every store that sells cigarettes for one full year, warning that these ingredients have now been put in the product. They never should have been put in the product to begin with, but if you're going to do the unthinkable - at least let the people know.

The part that sucks is that it was just slipped in there quietly - like razor blades in an apple. It is a wickedly evil and criminal act, and whoever came up with this will have to answer for it one day. Just like Hitler. And so will anyone who acts to support it or enforce it.
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10/28/2012 04:56 PM
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It makes no difference to me what the chemical is in the new FSC cigarettes. I know that it is having a seriously negative impact on my health. I believe that in a few years we will all be hearing about the massive number of smokers dying from whatever this chemical is while the government tries to deny that the health problems have anything to do with the FSC designation.

I just found a much better alternative. Make your own! There are cigarette tubes with filters, simple and inexpensive machines to inject the tobacco into the tubes, and a great variety of tobacco on the market. I went to a local tobacco store and bought some tobacco and some tubes and a $10 hand injector. Amazing. I've been smoking Parliament for 30 years and these are BETTER! Far fewer chemicals and a better taste. All for about $12 per carton. There are endless varieties of full-flavored and light tobaccos and tubes on the market to satisfy any taste. There is no reason NOT to make your own.

Why are we supporting these ridiculous tobacco companies and the government who is trying to take away all smokers' rights when we could just make our own? What happened to the Land of the Free anyway?

Search Roll Your Own Magazine and you will find a wealth of information!
 Quoting: Patti 402772


My husband and I also make our own and have for about 4 years.We figured it up and it works out to less than $1.00 pack.
Also if I buy packs of cigarettes I can easily smoke over a pack a day.When I make my own,I am now smoking less than a pack a day.Here is a great link for anyone who wants info.

[link to ryorevolution.com]
 Quoting: babydust2004


Anyone contimplating growing their own tobacco should check out the blog I have listed. It will answer all your questions. It has even made the newspapers here in New Zealand. theoldfirm.hubpages.com/hub/Tobacco-Growing-and-Curing-at-Hom​e

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The reason why governments are trying to kill tobacco is because what nicotine does.

Nicotine, when bound to the receptors in the brain, causes a chain reaction that leads to the active blockade of fluoride and other fluoridic compounds. The chain reaction causes the receptors of fluoridic compounds to be occupied, and also makes the blood-brain barrier less permeable to flouride and fluoridic compounds (such as prozac, etc). To top it off, the nicotine always goes to areas of the brain with higher blood flow (which is why it has some of the side effects it does), and the pineal gland is very responsive to nicotine and tends to undo some of the nasty things that fluoride does to it.

This is why a lot of schizophrenics self-medicate with cigarettes/cigars/or pipes, solely because of this specific activity nicotine has on the brain.

So the war on tobacco and smoking, has nothing to do about health and well being. Its all about this little compound called nicotine that's throwing a wrench in their plans to medicate the population with fluoride.

They're starting with cigarettes and smoking, then they are going to go after electronic cigarettes. It will all eventually be banned, and will become underground like what is happening with cannabis nowadays.
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12/10/2012 04:17 AM
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there are three chemicals added if I recall. One is ethyl cellulose, and the 'tech' is called REDUCED IGNITION PROPENSITY

RIP

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Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.
 Quoting: PICK 346986

Carpet Glue
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YEP
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The chemicals in your now horrible tasting cigarettes are:

1) sodium metasilicate, Na2 SiO3, also known as water glass or liquid glass, it is used for metal and automotive repair, adhesives, disabling care engines, drilling fluids, concrete sealer, high temperature insulation, dyes, detergents, and waterproofing.

2) Ethylene vinyl acetate A thermoplastic used in hot glue procedures such as carpeting, foam rubber, and manufacturing of solar panels.

Test results available, conducted on rodents, clearly show the risks associated with 'Ethylene Vinyl Acetate copolymer emulsion based adhesive' to be a 'highly carcinogenic substance' triggering the cellular proliferation necessary for tumor development.

article from [link to Tobaccoes.com]
 Quoting: Tobaccoes.com 13358268


I am sure it is not without reason that the real technology is not FSC but reduced ignition propensity...

true story.
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im sorry the 3rd chemical is called ethyl propylene not ethyl cellulose.
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12/10/2012 04:28 AM
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[link to www.nist.gov]
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10/28/2013 10:37 PM
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Just a NEAR 2014 BUMP:

I found going to the "Ghetto Stores" - (bad part of town) and buying Parliments or Benson and Hedges are still pre - FSC.

Yes, they are 3 years old. Yet, in Air Conditioning and in air sealed box they don't taste stale.

I buy cartons of Newport REDS (non menthol) for $46 at my local habib store. That's $4.60 a pack. Not bad. Plus, Newport Reds smoke just as good as Marlboro Reds, if not better.

I tried the ROLL YOUR OWN. Around Florida they have these stores where you walk in, buy the tubes, buy the tobacco, and have machines the size of washer/dryer combo and the "loop hole" is you press "start" your self. and the machines make them for you, using the tobacco and tubes you bought.

$27.00 a carton. $2.70 a pack.

Yet I found, since the loophole is they must sell "pipe tobacco" to get around the law, you gotta sit for a few minutes and CUT the tobacco lower, make it shorter, etc. Big difference if you spend 15 minutes with a pair of scisors and hands just ripping and shredding away at the 1lb you bought.

Pour it into machine. Insert the 200 tubes. Press start (an employee can't... see, you're "renting" the machines.. loophole)

and yup.

ANYHOW


I've been driving around the ghetto stores, and since people in the ghetto don't buy Benson and Hedges, or Basic Full Flavor 100s, or Parliament Full Flavor... they are still FSC free. and Florida went FSC in 2008/9.

Just walked to 7/11, and I kinda live right near the rail road tracks, and asked if they could get a pack of Parliments for me and show them to me. Sure enough, they were FSC free. (I have 15 packs at home of Newport Reds, that ARE FSC)

So I bought a few. EXPENSIVE AS HELL.

Then I went to another store..... asked to look at the cigarettes... and found they had 4 packs of BASIC FULL FLAVOR 100's that were FSC free. Bought those.


However,

I find SWEDISH SNUS the best answer to getting nicotine while making smoking the 'ritual' it's suppose to be.


I FUCKING LOVE REAL SWEDISH SNUS.

General White Portion FTW!

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obama sucks
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