FSC Cigarettes

And who smokes Morley?

I quit smoking two weeks ago.
Smoking is really quite a stupid activity...and look how spun up you all are about a stupid activity.
Hahahahaha.

I quit smoking two weeks ago.
Smoking is really quite a stupid activity...and look how spun up you all are about a stupid activity.
Hahahahaha.


Time for another

It’s the principle. I don't like the government dictating what I choose to do. I am an adult and an American, and last time I checked, we had the right to make our own choices in this country. If I want to be an idiot and smoke, that's my choice, no one else’s. It all just boils down to being free to make up our own minds as long as it doesn't harm someone else...and second hand smoke?....no worse than the pollutants factories put out into the air, no worse than the emissions from our vehicles, no worse than the garbage dumps that emit toxic gases. I guess we can shut down all the factories, stop driving and quit throwing our trash away. Silly I know, but do you see the point I'm trying to make?

We stand in our little 5X5 space outside the workplace, making sure we're at least 15 ft away from any entrance, pay the extra taxes, purchase the product from behind iron/glass cages with high tech locks on them (you'd think they were made of gold or something) we put up with the total and complete strangers who feel its their life’s mission to walk up to us and tell us, without knowing us, just what kind of scum we are and how we all deserve what we get....that's so rude. You don’t do that to people, but we put up with it. And now here you are bashing us once again when you yourself were part of this group at one time. Kudos for quitting and way to go! Good for you...but could you please...just this once...try and understand? You have the choice to smoke or not smoke...so do we. Let us have our choice and go about your business. We won’t bother you, you don't bother us. Sounds fair to me.

P.S. I have the pride to sign my name here.
I'm proud of my opinion.

Deb Cowans

For you rollers out there, what bulk tobacco brand is most similar to Marlboro lights? I live in Idaho and they just went to FSC cigarettes. They are friggin nasty! Thinking about using carolinacartons.com. Anyone have experience with them? Seems kinda fishy that you have to send a wire or bill pay...

For you rollers out there, what bulk tobacco brand is most similar to Marlboro lights? I live in Idaho and they just went to FSC cigarettes. They are friggin nasty! Thinking about using carolinacartons.com. Anyone have experience with them? Seems kinda fishy that you have to send a wire or bill pay...


I went from Marlboro to Wildhorse--Wildhorse is so very close to Marlboro but only 3.25 a pack...
I smoked Marlboro for 30 years--Wild horse is the next best cigarrette...

Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

I quit smoking two weeks ago.

Smoking is really quite a stupid activity...and look how spun up you all are about a stupid activity.

Hahahahaha.

Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.


I can: Naphthalene (CAS Reg. No. 91-20-3), a white solid with a characteristic odor of mothballs, is a polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon composed of two fused benzene rings. The principal end use of naphthalene is as a raw material for the production of phthalic anhydride. It is also used as an intermediate for synthetic resins, celluloid, lampblack, smokeless powder, solvents, and lubricants. Naphthalene is used directly as a moth repellant, insecticide, anthelmintic, and intestinal antiseptic (ATSDR, 1990; U.S. EPA, 1986).

Naphthalene can be absorbed by the oral, inhalation, and dermal routes of exposure and can cross the placenta in amounts sufficient to cause fetal toxicity. The most commonly observed effect of naphthalene toxicity following acute oral or inhalation exposure in humans is hemolytic anemia associated with decreased hemoglobin and hematocrit values, increased reticulocyte counts, presence of Heinz bodies, and increased serum bilirubin levels (ATSDR, 1990). Hemolytic anemia has been observed in an infant dermally exposed to naphthalene (Schafer, 1951) and in infants whose mothers were exposed to naphthalene during pregnancy (Anziulewicz et al., 1959; Zinkham and Childs, 1958). Infants and individuals having a congenital deficiency of erythrocyte glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase are especially susceptible to naphthalene-induced hemolytic anemia (Wintrobe et al., 1974).

Acute oral and subchronic inhalation exposure of humans to naphthalene has resulted in neurotoxic effects (confusion, lethargy, listlessness, vertigo), gastrointestinal distress, hepatic effects (jaundice, hepatomegaly, elevated serum enzyme levels), renal effects, and ocular effects (cataracts, optical atrophy). Cataracts have been reported in individuals occupationally exposed to naphthalene (Ghetti and Mariani, 1956) and in rabbits and rats exposed orally to naphthalene (Van Heyningen and Pirie, 1976; Fitzhugh and Buschke, 1949). A number of deaths have been reported following intentional ingestion of naphthalene-containing mothballs (ATSDR, 1990). The estimated lethal dose of naphthalene is 5-15 g for adults and 2-3 g for children. Naphthalene is a primary skin irritant and is acutely irritating to the eyes of humans (Sandmeyer, 1981).

Increased mortality, clinical signs of toxicity, kidney and thymus lesions, and signs of anemia were observed in rats treated by gavage with 400 mg/kg of naphthalene for 13 weeks (NTP, 1980a). No adverse effects occurred at 50 mg/kg. Transient clinical signs of toxicity were seen in mice exposed by gavage to 53 mg/kg for 13 weeks (NTP, 1980b). Subchronic oral exposure to 133 mg/kg/day for 90 days produced decreased spleen weights in female mice (Shopp et al., 1984). Reduced numbers of pups/litter were observed when naphthalene was administered orally to pregnant mice (Pflasterer et al., 1985). Negative results in a two-year feeding study with rats receiving 10-20 mg naphthalene/kg/day (Schmahl, 1955) and equivocal results in a mouse lung tumor bioassay (Adkins et al., 1986) suggest that naphthalene is not a potential carcinogen.

A subchronic and chronic oral reference dose (RfD) of 4E-2 mg/kg/day for naphthalene has been calculated by U.S. EPA (1992). These values are based on a NOEL of 50 mg/kg/day derived from a subchronic oral toxicity study with rats (NTP, 1980a). The RfD is currently under review by U.S. EPA and may be subject to change (U.S. EPA, 1992). A reference concentration (RfC) for chronic inhalation exposure has not been derived by U.S. EPA. Available cancer bioassays were insufficient to assess the carcinogenicity of naphthalene. Therefore, U.S. EPA (1991, 1992) has placed naphthalene in weight-of-evidence group D, not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity.

Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

If you take a pre-FSC smoke and look at it under a black light you'll notice evidence of a liquid on the paper that has dried. (looks kinda like a piss stain) this is from an accelerant (sp) Like a previous post said, you could light one put it down and it would burn till gone, a fire needs air, without drawing air through cig it should go out. Old smokes didn't....

Maybe they didn't wanna spray 10% ethanol on smokes lol.

PS new legislation want to do away with all flavorings in cigs. (idea being that they taste too good and encourage youth smoking) this will include the flavor called "menthol." (this is according to my RJR Rep)

PS Camel changed their blend, like Coke did, no customer loyalty. Obviously lower quality, no mega-corp is going to really upgrade a product without raising the price. Considering the predatory way RJR treats its retailers I would urge smokers to boycott RJR brands. CAMEL, Pall Mall, Winston, Kool, GPC.

Is anyone else getting headaches from smoking these new cigarett


It makes no difference to me what the chemical is in the new FSC cigarettes. I know that it is having a seriously negative impact on my health. I believe that in a few years we will all be hearing about the massive number of smokers dying from whatever this chemical is while the government tries to deny that the health problems have anything to do with the FSC designation.

I just found a much better alternative. Make your own! There are cigarette tubes with filters, simple and inexpensive machines to inject the tobacco into the tubes, and a great variety of tobacco on the market. I went to a local tobacco store and bought some tobacco and some tubes and a $10 hand injector. Amazing. I've been smoking Parliament for 30 years and these are BETTER! Far fewer chemicals and a better taste. All for about $12 per carton. There are endless varieties of full-flavored and light tobaccos and tubes on the market to satisfy any taste. There is no reason NOT to make your own.

Why are we supporting these ridiculous tobacco companies and the government who is trying to take away all smokers' rights when we could just make our own? What happened to the Land of the Free anyway?

Search Roll Your Own Magazine and you will find a wealth of information!

Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

this is fucking bulshit cause there are people that are alergic to this shit and can have a verry serious reaction to this shit and they cant just put new chemicals into the cigarette that i have been smokin for 35 years. IT PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It Really Does!!!! now i either have to change my tobacco poisoning brand or start rolling my own. This Shit Needs To Stop A.S.A.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

Ummm, yeah, alright.



Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.

Hi e1 this is an email I got from a smoker thought you all needed to read this. I will not stop so hey help me out here. I got a call today from someone telling me to back off. I will not stop. I need your help. They can not get away with this!!!!!! Their threats do not scare me. I will go down fighting for all of us. Find out all you can.
Kay
Still fighting for our right to be heard.


Hi kay;
I think in my research I may have found out what's up with those cigarettes. They use an adhesive called ethylene vinyl acetate copolymer emulsion based adhesive. At least that it what one of the pattents for reduced ignition propensity cigarettes said was required. I looked up the chemical. It is the same adhesive used for glueing the backing on carpeting. It has shown to cause tumors in mice, but it is not know what it does to humans. Also, I read the metals such as aluminum are used to help keep the cigarette burning where the speed bumps aren't, or something like that. At any rate that explains the metal taste that I am left with. I think there is far more to this. I don't think they care at all about the 700-1000 lives that will be saved, or so they say will be saved. Also, the testing done did not prove conclusively that fsc would not ignite and start fires. What bothers me most is that the only testing done on these cigarettes was in relations to it fire safety. No tests were done as to the health risks created by the changing of the cigarettes. I also am very suspicious as to how they snuck this on us. We hardly heard anything at all about this till it went in to law. Another weird thing is that back in 2004-2005 I used to buy Marlboro's from an indian reservation in NY, they were cheaper. I noticed that the cigarettes went out, however, they did not have the smell, taste or affect that these FSC have now. I know now that the pilot test was done in NY. Everything in the passing of the FSC law was based on what happened in NY. But I can tell you, that the cigarettes in the pilot test in New York are NOT the same as the one's they are pawning off on us now. They changed them. I think we are being experimented on, against our knowledge and will, just as they did medical experiments on prisoners and children in the foster care system. No one cared about them to make a stink and now no one cares about the smoker because we have been made out to be evil bad people who are hated by the general populace. Anyway, as you can see, I am really pissed off about this whole thing. I wish there were something we can do. People are going to get very sick and some are going to die from these cigs. Anyway, gotta go to work. Thanks for Emailing me back. Nance

I have e-mailed everyone from our governor down, and there was NO research done on the chemical additive to the FSC cigarettes. They have no idea what is in them but "think" the chemical was added to the paper. They pass this law and give no choice, then don't even know what's in them? Can anyone say "depopulation program?".

The fucking heads of these cigarettes fall off, WHILE STILL LIT. Please explain how they are going to save lives?

They smoke down to the ring of the retardant and the next thing you know the damn head falls off onto your clothes or wherever, burning through what they land on. That's entirely moronic.

Can anyone tell me what the chemcial the put in the new FSC Cigarettes. I cannot find this info any where on the internet.