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| RAMS
User ID: 339020
1/1/2008 4:50 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
How about some science instead of dreary ad hominems hiding your inability to put together a coherent, scientific analysis of the object? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 346434
Hi.
I did asshole, including a phone number and email address to the SOHO office and contact person for same. What the fuck did you offer?
I was savagely attacked for "offering scientific analysis of the subject" (great English, shit head). Go fuck yourself motherfucker.,
I am love
RAMS |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 179364
1/1/2008 4:50 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
i wonder if 'it' used the sun to power up? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346434
1/1/2008 4:51 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
324203,
Of course its going to be bright anyways since its making a relativley close flyby with the sun. You are right in that is IS comming closer to us, as it is listed in spaceweather as a potential danger.
Also, its 6 km wide, not 3. And it isnt an orb either, if you look at astroid 1685toro youll see why is reflects the sun how it does. Quoting: Gwydion 348523
Not according to the JPL Small-Body database, which says that 1685 Torino is 3.4 km in diameter. And the orbit diagram indicates that it currently NOWHERE NEAR THE SUN-EARTH LINE OF SIGHT!
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Busted!
Do you often spread disinformation like this? |
| Rerun OddGun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 4:52 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Plus if it was fabled X, seems like it would be larger. I am not disagreeing, just adding arguement to whittle down our options. Anyone able to pull an appr. size of this this...compared to another planet...looks a lot larger that Mercury, not to mention the lateral line that accompanies most large object pics from SOHO. So let's narroe it down to appr. size, distance from sun, looks like it is maintaining a somewhat hesitated orbit of sorts too. Is that perhaps a sign of intelligent guidance...hard to tell with so much time in one short clip. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346114
1/1/2008 4:52 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Even the NASA goof doesn't agree that the object is Mercury or Toro, or even Jupiter.
RAMS is our resident psycho, Im suprised NASA lets him post representing himself as an employee, but why not?
NASA has absolutely no credibility anyway. What a waste of money. Quoting: IDW 348561
Well, NASA also had an astronaunt that drive around in diapers with intent to kill a women involved with a man that she herself was never involved with. Maybe RAMS knows her. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339268
1/1/2008 4:53 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Rams
Bring on some solid logic, it would be nice. Lense flare or blimp doesn't work.
I have looked at 5 to 6 diffenent views of something that I still do not understand. Nancy or the tooth fairy has nothing to do with it.
The OP started the thread worried about a class C flare but the object is what got everyone juiced.
You tell me stright up what the object is, its size, and what it is doing there! Thats all and everything else is just hot air!
ice Quoting: Ice
 |
| Nancy Lieder  
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348420
1/1/2008 4:53 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy,
Thats just space junk, nothing even comparable to the astroid itself which is 6 km wide. I seriously hope you arent instigating those blips on the screen to be anything significant.
What your all seeing is astroid 1685toro, im sorry i cant find a trajectory path for it but by all means look for yourself. Something is obviously crossing, all im saying is that we already know what it is, and its NOT anything new. Quoting: Gwydion 348523
Right, and can't find the asteroid either!
1625toro
Not on the list of potentially dangerous asteroids (which NEO asteroids are)
[link to cfa-www.harvard.edu]
NEO are defined as those asteroids which are “objects on Earth-crossing
orbits and, more generally, to those having perihelion distances q<1.3 AU and aphelion distances
Q>0.983 AU”.
That would apply to the claim this is an asteroid visible on LASCO as being IN FRONT OF a solar flare seen from Earth.
Disinfo again??
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 336011
1/1/2008 4:53 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
324203,
Of course its going to be bright anyways since its making a relativley close flyby with the sun. You are right in that is IS comming closer to us, as it is listed in spaceweather as a potential danger.
Also, its 6 km wide, not 3. And it isnt an orb either, if you look at astroid 1685toro youll see why is reflects the sun how it does.
Not according to the JPL Small-Body database, which says that 1685 Torino is 3.4 km in diameter. And the orbit diagram indicates that it currently NOWHERE NEAR THE SUN-EARTH LINE OF SIGHT!
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Busted!
Do you often spread disinformation like this?
I came to the same conclusion |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346434
1/1/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
How about some science instead of dreary ad hominems hiding your inability to put together a coherent, scientific analysis of the object?
Hi.
I did asshole, including a phone number and email address to the SOHO office and contact person for same. What the fuck did you offer?
I am love
RAMS
No, you didn't. Science does not consist of posting emails to labs or research centres.
I am truth |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282813
1/1/2008 4:54 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Having looked at the links, to my mind the object is defenitely not Toro(1685). Is that your point or am I misinterpreting the angles? Quoting: habjabdoobab 336011
Exactly.
Continue using the orbit diagram
[link to www.astroarts.com]
1) Now place "STEREO Ahead -- A" on the vertical axis, with Earth approximately 22 degrees to the left of vertical.
2) Next, look at Mercury from T=22Dec07 to present, continuing to reference the vertical axis (i.e.the point of view of "A").
Your observation?
.
. |
| Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348420
1/1/2008 4:54 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I've got everything but the animations, and the stills show it all.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| RAMS
User ID: 339020
1/1/2008 4:55 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Well, NASA also had an astronaunt that drive around in diapers with intent to kill a women involved with a man that she herself was never involved with. Maybe RAMS knows her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 346114
Yes. I do. I am now carrying her baby in my front poddy. Now, go fuck yourself
I am love.
RAMS |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 4:56 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
324203,
Of course its going to be bright anyways since its making a relativley close flyby with the sun. You are right in that is IS comming closer to us, as it is listed in spaceweather as a potential danger.
Also, its 6 km wide, not 3. And it isnt an orb either, if you look at astroid 1685toro youll see why is reflects the sun how it does.
Not according to the JPL Small-Body database, which says that 1685 Torino is 3.4 km in diameter. And the orbit diagram indicates that it currently NOWHERE NEAR THE SUN-EARTH LINE OF SIGHT!
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Busted!
Do you often spread disinformation like this?
So many lies, its so much work to weed through the decepetion. Not sure who I feel more sorry for, those who do it in ignorance, or those who knowingly deceive.
If this was 6km max there is no chance we'd see it from this distance. Either way, it definately wouldn't show as an object larger than mercury's point when it's on SOHO.
Common sense first, then data, the theory for the sheer intention of finding more data. |
| John the Baptist (nli!)
User ID: 151085
1/1/2008 4:56 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Here I am, all kinds of hung over, hop on GLP and find 25 pages of postings about "something", near the sun?
I'm all about delicious, crunchy doom but i think you all are pissing up a rope this time.
The funny thing is it didn't take long for you all to start listening to Mrs. Carmody (ZetaTalk) this time, did it? |
| Ice
User ID: 2958
1/1/2008 4:56 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Rams
Bring on some solid logic, it would be nice. Lense flare or blimp doesn't work.
I have looked at 5 to 6 diffenent views of something that I still do not understand. Nancy or the tooth fairy has nothing to do with it.
The OP started the thread worried about a class C flare but the object is what got everyone juiced.
You tell me stright up what the object is, its size, and what it is doing there! Thats all and everything else is just hot air!
ice
Thats right OBJECT... Shall i educate you about one thing? Space is large shall we agree? and so it is obvious many things can float past a satelite from time to time.
Some education...Physician, heal thyself
Things dont float by, they orbit, there are laws to be followed. Second of all...the size of this thing is not
amen
I have yet to see solid information based explaination, egos yes! answer NO!
guys and gals just take a breath and understand we have seen something and no one has explained it away yet!
this is my family eating them crawfish with many reasons for hoping all will be well with all this, God Bless All and Happy New Year!!!
ice :Ice is Loo:
some random object floating by. Do some research before you try to set everyone else straight. Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371
You have until 2016 to get your Act together! Be Wise! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346434
1/1/2008 4:58 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
And there are lot of NASA-paid shills here trying to cover up this image with explanations it takes but two minutes to debunk. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 308611
1/1/2008 4:59 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Yes. I do. I am now carrying her baby in my front poddy. Now, go fuck yourself
I am love.
RAMS
My, this dude is REALLY a scientist at NASA. You can see from the high level of sophistication.
Seriously, I've never seen such a thread where this much effort is made to make fun of it and make the people believe it's nothing important. Normally there was no need, but now... oh boy. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346434
1/1/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
324203,
Of course its going to be bright anyways since its making a relativley close flyby with the sun. You are right in that is IS comming closer to us, as it is listed in spaceweather as a potential danger.
Also, its 6 km wide, not 3. And it isnt an orb either, if you look at astroid 1685toro youll see why is reflects the sun how it does.
Not according to the JPL Small-Body database, which says that 1685 Torino is 3.4 km in diameter. And the orbit diagram indicates that it currently NOWHERE NEAR THE SUN-EARTH LINE OF SIGHT!
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Busted!
Do you often spread disinformation like this?
So many lies, its so much work to weed through the decepetion. Not sure who I feel more sorry for, those who do it in ignorance, or those who knowingly deceive.
If this was 6km max there is no chance we'd see it from this distance. Either way, it definately wouldn't show as an object larger than mercury's point when it's on SOHO.
Common sense first, then data, the theory for the sheer intention of finding more data.
Exactly. I made the same point several pages back. Actually, it's 3.4km in diameter, according to JPL, so your argument is even more relevant. |
| Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348420
1/1/2008 5:01 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Everybody relax, it isnt anything other than an
astroid named 1685 Toro, it orbits the sun and was one of the first apollo astroids to be discovered. Check:
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
It is comming relatively close to us this month, and is even listed in Spaceweather.com as a possibly dangerous astroid. Check:
www.spaceweather.com
They even tell you what it is, come on guys, check your information.
Finally, the best explanation, and most likely,exactly what it is, by the shape of it.
HERE is where the orbit is and on Dec 31 it was WAY outside the view of LASCO!
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 5:01 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Yes. I do. I am now carrying her baby in my front poddy. Now, go fuck yourself
I am love.
RAMS
My, this dude is REALLY a scientist at NASA. You can see from the high level of sophistication.
Seriously, I've never seen such a thread where this much effort is made to make fun of it and make the people believe it's nothing important. Normally there was no need, but now... oh boy.
Agreed, all the best debunkers..
Someone needs to look up debunk's definition...
It means saying nuh-uh even in the face of proof
Debunk is not disproove.
Anyone with useful info? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346434
1/1/2008 5:02 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Yes. I do. I am now carrying her baby in my front poddy. Now, go fuck yourself
I am love.
RAMS
My, this dude is REALLY a scientist at NASA. You can see from the high level of sophistication.
Seriously, I've never seen such a thread where this much effort is made to make fun of it and make the people believe it's nothing important. Normally there was no need, but now... oh boy.
Yeah. I think there are a few badass shills here working a cover-up and failing dismally. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282813
1/1/2008 5:03 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
.
.
MERCURY.
From the point of view of STEREO A, which is "Ahead" of Earth by about 21 degrees, the anomaly appears to be Mercury.
.
. |
| The Lone Ranger
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 5:04 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Look at the Shills going for an oldskool derailment.
They are very desperate on this.
i started the thread this morning and look at the incredible volume of Views.
This is Big, and they are scared. Quoting: MJ 340335
This is FANTASTIC......all the bunker shills are setting themselves up AGAIN  for their usual fall.
It's a GREAT start to 2008!!
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09 |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 5:06 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Everybody relax, it isnt anything other than an
astroid named 1685 Toro, it orbits the sun and was one of the first apollo astroids to be discovered. Check:
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
It is comming relatively close to us this month, and is even listed in Spaceweather.com as a possibly dangerous astroid. Check:
www.spaceweather.com
They even tell you what it is, come on guys, check your information.
Finally, the best explanation, and most likely,exactly what it is, by the shape of it.
HERE is where the orbit is and on Dec 31 it was WAY outside the view of LASCO!
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
OBVIOUS POINT
Compare this supposed asteroid's size to that of the sun...
or the flare...even compensate for it being closer than the sun
Then still tell me you think it is a 3.4km asteroid?
And I'll say you just wanted to talk. |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
But PROVE your side and I'll listen.
PROVE ALL THINGS |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316369
1/1/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Shit at one point it is enveloped in the ejecting plasma! Obviously what ever this is is NOT from around here. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346114
1/1/2008 5:08 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I dunno. I've been at GLP for over a year, and I've never seen a thread get 24 pages within a few hours. Tells me there must be some truth here to this. |
| Ice
User ID: 2958
1/1/2008 5:09 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
.
.
MERCURY.
From the point of view of STEREO A, which is "Ahead" of Earth by about 21 degrees, the anomaly appears to be Mercury.
.
. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 282813
I have been told that Mercury was at same spot 7 days before this. Of course Mercury is what you would think this would be and it either is or not. That is what is being questioned and I am waiting on someone with fact to prove it is Mercury. I don't follow your logic to prove it is Mercury!
ice
You have until 2016 to get your Act together! Be Wise! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282813
1/1/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
.
.
It's not Toro(1685). It's Mercury.
Look at STEREO B from late November, and you will see the same anomaly, but from a different angle -- 21 degrees "Behind" Earth.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Pretty simple really.
[link to www.astroarts.com]
.
. |
| MJ
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 5:12 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Look at the Shills going for an oldskool derailment.
They are very desperate on this.
i started the thread this morning and look at the incredible volume of Views.
This is Big, and they are scared.
This is FANTASTIC......all the bunker shills are setting themselves up AGAIN :lol4me: for their usual fall.
It's a GREAT start to 2008!!
:awesome: Quoting: The Lone Ranger
You keep making a mistake with me Pal.
Im not a Bunker and i am certainly not a fan of miss Lieder.
Im the OP, and i am not posting about doom or that damn Planet.
Take your crappy comments back to the Liers threads, where they belong. |
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