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Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun

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Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:25 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

Don't worry :Loneranger: will remind you in the coming months just what REAL suckers you followers of your beloved LIEDer truly are.

HAPPY 2008......suckers.

Your one of the only ones discussing X.
the topic has moved on since Nancy's intervention.
Go and troll back on the ZT threads. Your continuous BS and lack of substance has no place here.


Sorry MJ but a moon of Nibiru makes the most sense to me. You've based your assumption of craft solely on its movement and that's not good enough. As a matter of fact you did so as a process of elimination. Technically you could be right but at this point the craft solution is not supported.

If it had changed course in an obvious manner I would have agreed with you.

So far we can narrow the scope but there are certain things that cannot yet be discounted and I believe that the possibility that it is one of Nibiru's moons is one of them.


The downfall to the Niburu Moon is:

The orbit arc as a orbit of the Sun...not of another body hidden from view...

If it were a Moon of Niburu...the center of orbit would be Niburu...not the Sun...

The support for a craft:

The video shows erratic lingering of the ship then a faster orbit....(sped up many times original speed or course)

NASA's release of a Craft orbiting the Sun as of today

If we are comparing this object to a moon or Mercury..it is obviously too big to be a Deep Impact Craft...

However...not dismissing...but the video and orbit seems to be against your theory.



Wait. Don't forget that according to Zetatalk, Nibiru's moons are not presently orbiting the planet. They are a part of the dust cloud that surounds the planet and that is being blown toward Earth by the sun's solar winds. The moons are kept in place by Nibiru but the orbit has been lost.

This is all per zetatalk. I can't make the argument for any of this. Nancy Lieder is the one who should be asked. But if you want to check, it is on her website.

According to what I remember the cloud and the moons are in constant motion as they are affected by the solar winds and other forces.

Per zetatalk the dust coud has already begun to surround Earth. If this is the case it is little wonder if the moons have become visible to us.

At this point I cannot discount this theory any more than MJ or myself would discount the possiblity that it is an intelligently driven craft.

The only thing that I will ignore is the debunker's assertion that it should be ignored.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348645


Thanks, but if the Zeta's are talkin through her, they are liars anyways according to all known info on them, be it Phil Schneider, biblical, or just their proven track record, so I need more than Nancy's site for explanation...
Menow
User ID: 169333
1/1/2008 8:25 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

The Zetas have said that Planet X is passing by the Sun and is headed our way. At some point in time it will pass over the Earth, causing a pole shift.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder




Funny, but "zetas" have always said that when PX came between Earth and Sun, it would cause a poleshift. Funny, also, that "zetas" have said that PX has been between Earth and Sun for several years now but no poleshift has taken place.

"At some point in time it will pass over the Earth, causing a pole shift."

Now PX has to pass "over" the Earth? What does THAT mean, Nancy?
The Lone Ranger Subscriber
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User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 8:26 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

look where mercury is, for the last time.
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
NASA know it can be narrowed down to a craft that is why they have rushed a press release through on New years Day.
Speaks volumes.

______+++++++++++++

thank you Its Not Mercury !!! you happy

how can you guys look at what we are seeing a see a craft??

Why would a craft look like that?

I think this thread has gone a little nerdy!

Don't know what it is but I will not start talking about little green guys!!

good night

Your the only one mentioning them.
 Quoting: MJ 340335


So you're making yourself an expert now are you dumb ass2

Go troll somewhee else A. Coward....nobody.

Let's rock Big Boy!!

:hearme:

excited
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Subscriber
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1/1/2008 8:28 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

MJ.......... attn_whore

YEP......summed you up bozzo.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:30 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

MJ.......... :attn_whore:

YEP......summed you up bozzo.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Then why are you the only one talking without some relevance?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 8:30 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

Comet Buster Whizzes Past Earth
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Deep Impact
Deep Impact


Jan. 1, 2008 -- A comet-busting NASA spacecraft zipped past Earth on Monday on its way to rendezvous with another comet in an extended mission that will also see it hunt for Earth-sized planets around a cluster of stars.

The Deep Impact probe made the first of three flybys designed to use the planet's gravity to hurtle the spacecraft toward comet Hartley 2 for a 2010 meeting.

At its closest, the spacecraft was 10,000 miles above Australia.

"We're taking laps around the sun until the comet comes," said William Blume of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

In 2005, Deep Impact became the first spacecraft to crack open a comet by releasing a copper impactor that smashed into Tempel 1, giving scientists their first glimpse of the interior. The mothership survived and was placed in safe mode before it was tapped for an encore.

The new mission, known as Epoxi, calls for Deep Impact to meet Hartley 2 about 12 million miles from Earth at the time of the encounter. Deep Impact will hover 550 miles from the half mile-wide surface and use its two telescopes and infrared spectrometer to map features and record gas outbursts.

On its way to the comet, Deep Impact will spend six months using one of its telescopes to search for Earth-sized planets around five nearby stars, which are known to have Jupiter-like planets orbiting them.

The extended mission, managed by JPL in Pasadena, cost $40 million, compared to the $333 million it took to collide with Tempel 1.

NASA initially wanted Deep Impact's second act to be an exploration of comet 85P/Boethin in 2008. But to scientists' surprise, a bevy of ground and space telescopes were unable to spot it this fall. Astronomers believe the comet may have shattered into specks too small to be seen from Earth.

Mission managers then asked the space agency to change course and visit Hartley 2, which required a path correction and an extra two years of travel.
[link to dsc.discovery.com]

Stinks to me...
I said it was a craft, but i believe they have been forced to disclose this to cover up what it really is.
 Quoting: MJ 340335
The Lone Ranger Subscriber
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User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 8:31 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

Can we stop the 3 year old shit?
Thanks
 Quoting: MJ 340335


So you want to DICTATE to others?

You have ZERO authority here :horse laug:
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
picesnator
User ID: 318318
1/1/2008 8:31 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

must be something to this thing...if'en lonely guy is banging in here..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 8:31 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

"A sunspot located just out of sight over the sun's eastern limb has unleashed two strong C-class solar flares in the past 24 hours. The sun's rotation should bring this active region into view later today or tomorrow allowing us to evaluate its potential for more explosions. If you have a solar telescope, monitor the limb."
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


Just wanted to check the last sunspot activity on www.spaceweather.com , but this interesting video (NASA) catched my attention. The last sunspot explosion (C-Class flare) actually unveals something that does not make sense to me - please take a look ! While sunspot sends the flare into the space, a very clear object is reflected. It looks obvious the object rotates. The object cannot be very far from the sun as the flare can somehow cover it . If the object is close to the sun surface (maybe few mil. miles) then .. we talk about an object of a huge size. However, i could be wrong- what do you think?
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Cycle 23 Has Just Ended
[link to www.lmsal.com]

Not mercury
[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Check it ** Good resolution

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Has a New Planet turned up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 303696
Asinine
User ID: 287311
1/1/2008 8:33 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

I did figure out something I could do with Stelarium:

-Start Stelarium
-Turn off ground and atmopshere
-Search for the Solar System Observer object.
-Press Ctrl G to move to that point.
-Reorient so that you are looking at the Sun and zoom in until you can see the inner solar system.
Note: The planets are orbiting in a counter clockwise manner from this point of view.

Now, notice where Earth is. STEREO Ahead is about 22 degrees in front of Earth in it's orbit. Now, draw an imaginary line from that point through the Sun. Look what happens to be very close to that line, just on the left hand side of it, and traveling from right to left.

Do the same, but from about 22 degrees behind to understand why it doesn't show up in STEREO Behind.

For SOHO, You can assume the line goes from the Earth to the Sun, so do that to understand why it is not showing up in the LASCO imagery. SOHO sits roughly between the Earth and the Sun in the void between Earth's orbit and Venus's orbit.
"It is surprising that supposedly intelligent people can make such asinine statements." -Definition of Asinine, www.Dictionary.com

It's all a farce; and, the joke is on all of us.
Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:34 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

must be something to this thing...if'en lonely guy is banging in here..
 Quoting: picesnator


Yeah, just makes me happy to know better, and hungry to prove it and let others know.

The Lone Ranger huh?

Wanted to be a cowboy ever since you saw Brokeback Mountain, huh?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348685
1/1/2008 8:35 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

You guys are just bored right?
Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:37 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

You guys are just bored right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348685


Who has time to be bored?
The Lone Ranger Subscriber
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 8:37 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

MJ.......... attn_whore

YEP......summed you up bozzo.


Then why are you the only one talking without some relevance?
 Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371


Read the WHOLE thread........MOST of you are ALL going around in circles after 30 odd pages.
awesome

MOST replys are just stupid uniformed thoughts.....that's it.

That's why it's so much FUN for me.

:dpeople:.....and there are plenty in the offering in this thread alone.

As for relevance.......this thread SHOWS how gullible some are in their assumptions. There is little relevance in discussing REAL facts with those that spout billshit without first doing simple research.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
Menow
User ID: 169333
1/1/2008 8:39 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

Ok I saw this earlier when the thread was maybe 10 to 12 pages long but don't remember seeing a responce. What are the Astronomy forums saying???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 334706


Astronomy forums? Why would you want to listen to people with actual expertise? Isn't Nancy's word good enough for you?
picesnator
User ID: 318318
1/1/2008 8:40 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

Ok I saw this earlier when the thread was maybe 10 to 12 pages long but don't remember seeing a responce. What are the Astronomy forums saying???


Astronomy forums? Why would you want to listen to people with actual expertise? Isn't Nancy's word good enough for you?
 Quoting: Menow 169333

maybe because it would be BORING!!!!
Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:41 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

Ok I saw this earlier when the thread was maybe 10 to 12 pages long but don't remember seeing a responce. What are the Astronomy forums saying???


Astronomy forums? Why would you want to listen to people with actual expertise? Isn't Nancy's word good enough for you?
 Quoting: Menow 169333


I seriously doubt anyone in here is discussing Nancy's input. I for one am not, I think she just jumped in to make this look bunk by trying to link it to X..

If I'm wrong I apologize, but at this point I am basing all on FACT...anyone with that to offer...throw it in the hat....
Ice
User ID: 6116
1/1/2008 8:41 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

go back and look close, this thing is spinning counter clockwise at a very rapid rate. looks like cloud or debris surrounding object. didn't see that on first look.

odd very odd!!!
You have until 2016 to get your Act together! Be Wise!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348645
1/1/2008 8:42 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

One compelling bit of evidence that one should consider is the vicious and continuous ad hominem attacks by the deniers, (they aren't real debunkers) against Nancy, zetatalk, and anyone who shows any interest. This has never let up and has gone on for years.

If these people are doing this of their own volition it shows a deep seated malignancy in their nature and is sociopathic in a clinical sense. One or even two is believable, but she has a true following in this crowd.

Those that show interested in her material are individual persons who are open minded and curious.

Those who rail against her have formed a collective body that have even given themselves a name and give only the barest pretense at anything other than hate ridden attacks against her, zetatalk or those who show the least bit of curiosity.

Are you certain that reading the words of someone who you do not know is a solid enough reason to discount the poleshift scenario as proffered by Nancy and Zetatalk?

Phil Schneider cannot do a better job of understanding Nancy or the zetas than you can with your own mind and your own reasoning skills.

You'd be letting yourself down if you discounted what she has to say on the word of another rather than what you've gathered for yourself.

Don't fall into the very trap that the deniers are always trying to catch people in.

You're a better judge than any other person could possibly be so see for yourself, and judge for yourself.
The Lone Ranger Subscriber
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User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 8:43 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

must be something to this thing...if'en lonely guy is banging in here..
 Quoting: picesnator


yes_sir Nator. I haven't even got started yet. Just warming up on the A. Coward trolls...like Mr Jackass(MJ)....and patiently waiting for the BIG GUNS to arrive.....for some REAL discussion. 30 Pages of mostly novices, Ms LIEDer included.

OH boy.....ENTERTAINMENT galore on this thread....

Bunker_Con.......just like MJ.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
------------------------------------
"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
Menow
User ID: 169333
1/1/2008 8:45 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

from
[link to www.astroarts.com]

at 30th Dec 2007, I have drawn a line for line of sight from stereo ahead cor2 at the sun, see link:

[link to s260.photobucket.com]

and referring back to
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]

If the object is not mercury then it is moving in the same way as mercury.


For the stereo AHEAD the line of sight has Mercury just to the left. Am I missing something here (sleepy at end of day). Doesn't the Earth move counterclockwise in her orbit? The assumption is then that Stereo BEHIND would not have it at all in its sight!

Mercury is TOO FAR TO THE LEFT IN VIEW TO BE CAPTURED.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Nancy, why don't you just stop pretending that you want to really know how the Solar System actually works? Did you forget that you claim Earth is not orbiting AT ALL anymore?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 8:45 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

This is not about nancy or PX its about the Original post.
Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282813
1/1/2008 8:45 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

look where mercury is, for the last time.
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
NASA know it can be narrowed down to a craft that is why they have rushed a press release through on New years Day.
Speaks volumes.

______+++++++++++++

thank you Its Not Mercury !!! you happy

how can you guys look at what we are seeing a see a craft??

Why would a craft look like that?

I think this thread has gone a little nerdy!

Don't know what it is but I will not start talking about little green guys!!

good night
 Quoting: Ice


Ice, I think you need a new "study group," or perhaps a better orbit simulator like Celestia, which is free to download. LOL

Part of the problem is that STEREO A&B COR2 images are relatively new (circa Mar 2007). If STEREO A COR2 were active in early Jan 2007 when Mercury was roughly in the same location as it was on 22 Dec -- behind Sol and below the ecliptic -- you'd see what I mean, and agree that the artifact in the 22 DEC STEREO image is Mercury.

I can't post videos, but I encourage you to download Celestia and look at where Mercury was on 22 Dec -- relative to STEREO A, and compare that to early Jan 2007, before the days of STEREO A COR2.

Also, use any orbit diagram and look at where Mercury was in early Jan 2007 -- again relative to STEREO A -- and see if you don't agree.

Finally, on August 19, 2007, Mercury was located slightly above the ecliptic, and behind the sun. The images from STEREO A on this date are very similar to those of 22 Dec, with regard to brigthness and size. The exception, of course, is Mercury's position relative to the ecliptic.


Mercury behind Sol, but above ecliptic, 19 August 2007:
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]


.
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The Lone Ranger Subscriber
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User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 8:45 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

must be something to this thing...if'en lonely guy is banging in here..


Yeah, just makes me happy to know better, and hungry to prove it and let others know.

The Lone Ranger huh?

Wanted to be a cowboy ever since you saw Brokeback Mountain, huh?
 Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371


Don't tell me......oh boy.....It must be tough for you, eh?

Big_smile
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
picesnator
User ID: 318318
1/1/2008 8:46 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

must be something to this thing...if'en lonely guy is banging in here..


yes_sir Nator. I haven't even got started yet. Just warming up on the A. Coward trolls...like Mr Jackass(MJ)....and patiently waiting for the BIG GUNS to arrive.....for some REAL discussion. 30 Pages of mostly novices, Ms LIEDer included.

OH boy.....ENTERTAINMENT galore on this thread....

Bunker_Con.......just like MJ.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

OKAY....but u reusing the same ol' stuff boy...get creative..i want see some serious debunking posting in here...none of this already done old stuff....get cracking
The Lone Ranger Subscriber
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 8:47 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

You guys are just bored right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348685


I'm having fun. Don't know about those that are shit scared though. It's of their own choosing.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
------------------------------------
"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
* <----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
1/1/2008 8:47 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

I hope its the star of destiny ...we all know its coming ..deep down we do. It is not a matter of if but when.
Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:48 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

One compelling bit of evidence that one should consider is the vicious and continuous ad hominem attacks by the deniers, (they aren't real debunkers) against Nancy, zetatalk, and anyone who shows any interest. This has never let up and has gone on for years.

If these people are doing this of their own volition it shows a deep seated malignancy in their nature and is sociopathic in a clinical sense. One or even two is believable, but she has a true following in this crowd.

Those that show interested in her material are individual persons who are open minded and curious.

Those who rail against her have formed a collective body that have even given themselves a name and give only the barest pretense at anything other than hate ridden attacks against her, zetatalk or those who show the least bit of curiosity.

Are you certain that reading the words of someone who you do not know is a solid enough reason to discount the poleshift scenario as proffered by Nancy and Zetatalk?

Phil Schneider cannot do a better job of understanding Nancy or the zetas than you can with your own mind and your own reasoning skills.

You'd be letting yourself down if you discounted what she has to say on the word of another rather than what you've gathered for yourself.

Don't fall into the very trap that the deniers are always trying to catch people in.

You're a better judge than any other person could possibly be so see for yourself, and judge for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348645


Not denying there is fact in it. The best way to make a lie believable is sprinkle it with fact. You can't deny the inevitable, but you can alter people's view on it just as our leaders do our reality. Divide and conquer...make enemies where there really are none. Phil Schneider has lost his life trying to get the truth out...

As has John Todd, William Cooper...

They died in the name of truth....

Some things just prove their authenticity

Nancy has not...and I'm not saying she doesn't talk to Zetas...I'm sayin if she does, they give her disinfo as well...her track record shows proof of that.
SunDawnn
User ID: 271268
1/1/2008 8:51 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

Funny, but "zetas" have always said that when PX came between Earth and Sun, it would cause a poleshift. Funny, also, that "zetas" have said that PX has been between Earth and Sun for several years now but no poleshift has taken place.
 Quoting: Menow 169333



It's called a 'safety' prediction. Much like; pick a number...any number from 1 - 100. It may be even.....it may be odd. You may guess it on the first guess......you may guess it after 99 guesses.

Sleight of mouth!!!!

This is NOT to say Nibiru isn't real. I firmly believe it's out there, however......Nancy is this dis-informant whose crying Wolf...and all you story-listeners are her captive audience, and after a while, you'll get tired of hearing the same ol' bullshit (starting in 2002 incidentally) and when you get fed up with hearing these 'wolf-cries'....we're gonna get numb then.....be caught blind-sided!
Hopefully not in our time though, but this planet WILL come into our inner solar system at some point. When? No one knows and those who do claim they know, we must question their agenda and motives.
Facilitating The Flow
MJ
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 8:51 PM
Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the SunQuote

I believe nothing of what nancy writes. I have never trusted her.
As i said, this is not about her, its about the subject matter.
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