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| <October>
User ID: 312470
1/1/2008 8:52 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Maybe a dumb question:
Is there any chance that this Deep Impact craft passes in front of the camera in a distance close enough to be seen that big? Can we find SOHO's and DI relative positions?
Is there any site to monitor DI's trajectory? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300487
"Dumb"??!
No way, AC! Actually one of the more intelligent questions asked, imo...
Anyone know the answers, cuz that's what I'd like to know as well. :)
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| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:53 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I believe nothing of what nancy writes. I have never trusted her.
As i said, this is not about her, its about the subject matter. Quoting: MJ 340335
Now that we are in agreement, let's proceed. |
| The Lone Ranger 
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 8:53 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Ok I saw this earlier when the thread was maybe 10 to 12 pages long but don't remember seeing a responce. What are the Astronomy forums saying???
Astronomy forums? Why would you want to listen to people with actual expertise? Isn't Nancy's word good enough for you?
I seriously doubt anyone in here is discussing Nancy's input. I for one am not, I think she just jumped in to make this look bunk by trying to link it to X..
If I'm wrong I apologize, but at this point I am basing all on FACT...anyone with that to offer...throw it in the hat.... Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371
Rerun Oddgun......you have nothing to apologize about. Unlike a certain person here on this thread, the Moderators alone have the ONLY authority. Outside of that NO one DEMANDS anything of anyone else here.....period.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09 |
| Ice
User ID: 6116
1/1/2008 8:54 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
look where mercury is, for the last time.
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
NASA know it can be narrowed down to a craft that is why they have rushed a press release through on New years Day.
Speaks volumes.
______+++++++++++++
thank you Its Not Mercury !!! you happy
how can you guys look at what we are seeing a see a craft??
Why would a craft look like that?
I think this thread has gone a little nerdy!
Don't know what it is but I will not start talking about little green guys!!
good night
Ice, I think you need a new "study group," or perhaps a better orbit simulator like Celestia, which is free to download. LOL
Part of the problem is that STEREO A&B COR2 images are relatively new (circa Mar 2007). If STEREO A COR2 were active in early Jan 2007 when Mercury was roughly in the same location as it was on 22 Dec -- behind Sol and below the ecliptic -- you'd see what I mean, and agree that the artifact in the 22 DEC STEREO image is Mercury.
I can't post videos, but I encourage you to download Celestia and look at where Mercury was on 22 Dec -- relative to STEREO A, and compare that to early Jan 2007, before the days of STEREO A COR2.
Also, use any orbit diagram and look at where Mercury was in early Jan 2007 -- again relative to STEREO A -- and see if you don't agree.
Finally, on August 19, 2007, Mercury was located slightly above the ecliptic, and behind the sun. The images from STEREO A on this date are very similar to those of 22 Dec, with regard to brigthness and size. The exception, of course, is Mercury's position relative to the ecliptic.
Mercury behind Sol, but above ecliptic, 19 August 2007:
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
.
.
I understand why you are posting this. My mind can't get around anything but Mercury but now I now this is not Mercury.
Go back and look at first post and run video. This thing is clearly spinning CCW with a debris field. Its not Mercury and its not a craft. We are being lied to by people that know because something like this doesn't just show up!
ice
You have until 2016 to get your Act together! Be Wise! |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 8:55 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Maybe a dumb question:
Is there any chance that this Deep Impact craft passes in front of the camera in a distance close enough to be seen that big? Can we find SOHO's and DI relative positions?
Is there any site to monitor DI's trajectory?
"Dumb"??!
No way, AC! Actually one of the more intelligent questions asked, imo...
Anyone know the answers, cuz that's what I'd like to know as well. :)
I agree it is a good question..the downfall i see is that the original footage does not show a path trjectory of coming away from the sun but following around the orbit towards the back, which would again leave it so far away as unviewable and definately not showing up as such a large object. |
| habjabdoobab
User ID: 336011
1/1/2008 8:58 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
STEREO B picked up the transit of MERCURY on 09DEC2007.
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Use the orbit diagram, set date to 09DEC, place Earth approximately 21 degrees right of vertical to simulate STEREO B point of view.
What do you see?
.
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Mercury is in the line of sight on that day for stereo B, not sure what this proves though.
In a previous reply you posted a link to STEREO B for 30DEC, and you wondered why STEREO B did not detect Mercury. By that date, Mercury was out of the field of view (FOV) of both STEREO B & A.
However, at the beginning of February Mercury passes in front of Sol (slightly above the ecliptic), at which time STEREO B will detect it first again -- like it did on 16OCT.
.
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No you read the quote wrong, it was Nancy that wondered why STEREO B did not detect Mercury, I explained earlier in the thread to Nancy why that was. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 8:59 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Maybe a dumb question:
Is there any chance that this Deep Impact craft passes in front of the camera in a distance close enough to be seen that big? Can we find SOHO's and DI relative positions?
Is there any site to monitor DI's trajectory?
"Dumb"??!
No way, AC! Actually one of the more intelligent questions asked, imo...
Anyone know the answers, cuz that's what I'd like to know as well. :)
I agree it is a good question..the downfall i see is that the original footage does not show a path trjectory of coming away from the sun but following around the orbit towards the back, which would again leave it so far away as unviewable and definately not showing up as such a large object.
The way it illuminates so quickly and evidently soon after the flare suggests a close proximity to the Sun.
Certainly a much bigger craft than what NASA are implying.
Its what you call a desperate attempt to cover there arses.
On New Years day as well, lets not forget. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282813
1/1/2008 9:00 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
.
.
August 18, 2007, STEREO A COR2:
Mercury is behind Sol but ABOVE ecliptic.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Dec 26, 2007, STEREO A COR2:
Mercury is behind Sol but BELOW ecliptic.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Do I have to go on?
December 2007 was the first time that STEREO A COR2 imaged Mercury in it's "controversial" position.
It's Mercury.
.
. |
| The Lone Ranger
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 9:00 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
This is not about nancy or PX its about the Original post.
Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun Quoting: Anonymous Coward 340335
Why that is basically true, originally; the subject of this thread is ALSO interwined with other threads currently active on GLP.
It's the bigger picture of GLP whether you guys like it or not.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09 |
| Menow
User ID: 169333
1/1/2008 9:01 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
It is most likely one of Nibiru's moons, not Nibiru itself.
What it is not, is Mercury or an asteroid.
Right now according to zetatalk nibiru's moons are no longer orbiting the planet but part of a "tail" that is being blown toward Earth by the sun's solar wind.
This scenario also accounts for the halo around comet Holmes. Nothing else provides a reasonable answer for that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348645
Umm... Nancy has said that the alleged PX's moons NEVER orbit the parent planet, but ALWAYS string out in an alleged tail, as if that could be true...
Try to keep up with the various aspects of her delusion if you want to seriously consider anything she has to say. |
| scar
User ID: 338226
1/1/2008 9:02 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
So whats the status on the weird object? Any ideas besides X? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 343574
1/1/2008 9:03 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
This is not about nancy or PX its about the Original post.
Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun
Why that is basically true, originally; the subject of this thread is ALSO interwined with other threads currently active on GLP.
It's the bigger picture of GLP wherever you guys like it or not. Quoting: The Lone Ranger
huh? |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 9:07 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Okay, if this is Mercury, then so is our mystery object.
The guy above got it...not me |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 9:09 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348645
1/1/2008 9:10 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Rerun Oddgun, this is from the zetatalk website regarding Phil. You might be surprised.
"ZetaTalk: Phil Schneider
Note: written on Apr 15, 1997
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When this former government engineer involved in the construction of underground installations broke his security code and talked, alarm lit up the elite within the CIA and military who saw their personal escape hatch to avoiding the coming cataclysms closing. His death was not only to silence him, it was to send a clear and unmistakable message to any others who might be contemplating breaking their security oath. Should he have been found dead in an apparent suicide, the message would have been blurred. Thus he was gunned down, a simple engineer meeting a death that Mafia kingpins might meet, a death that would not be mistaken for a simple mugging or robbery. This worked, and most of the subsequent information leaks have been disinformation designed to cloud the facts so that the truth fades and begins to look silly alongside the company it must keep.
References to the Service-to-Self aliens the CIA had so quickly allied with are most often misunderstood, as where they were present in the underground installations, and where their technology was being examined by the military, the rules of engagement they were operating under are not understood by the populace hearing these tales. The military was warned not to tamper with certain devices, but proceeded anyway under the assumption that the warning was to keep them from knowledge, rather than harm. The orders to proceed endangered both the humans and aliens in the vicinity, but the Service-to-Self aliens cared only for their own safety and reacted in a manner that escalated into what has been interpreted as a shoot out. Each side thought they were defending themselves.
The alliance with Service-to-Self aliens occurred in the old days of MJ12, and matters are much different in the present day. MJ12 has come to the realization that they were lied to, and that the alien visitors come in two flavors, and have steadily migrated to an alliance with aliens in the Service-to-Other such as ourselves. Little of the old alliances remains today.
All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk"
She has something to say about the others you mentioned as well. |
| angelpbj
User ID: 348079
1/1/2008 9:11 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
One compelling bit of evidence that one should consider is the vicious and continuous ad hominem attacks by the deniers, (they aren't real debunkers) against Nancy, zetatalk, and anyone who shows any interest. This has never let up and has gone on for years.
If these people are doing this of their own volition it shows a deep seated malignancy in their nature and is sociopathic in a clinical sense. One or even two is believable, but she has a true following in this crowd.
Those that show interested in her material are individual persons who are open minded and curious.
Those who rail against her have formed a collective body that have even given themselves a name and give only the barest pretense at anything other than hate ridden attacks against her, zetatalk or those who show the least bit of curiosity.
Are you certain that reading the words of someone who you do not know is a solid enough reason to discount the poleshift scenario as proffered by Nancy and Zetatalk?
Phil Schneider cannot do a better job of understanding Nancy or the zetas than you can with your own mind and your own reasoning skills.
You'd be letting yourself down if you discounted what she has to say on the word of another rather than what you've gathered for yourself.
Don't fall into the very trap that the deniers are always trying to catch people in.
You're a better judge than any other person could possibly be so see for yourself, and judge for yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348645
Totally agreed! No more fighting!!
Only objective argumentation and search for the TRUTH!!
-"Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present, controls the past." George Orwell ("1984")
-"Thought creates. I believe the greatest secret is that life is not a process of discovery, but a process of creation" -
Katherine Brooks (movie director) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 9:12 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Okay, if this is Mercury, then so is our mystery object.
The guy above got it...not me Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
impossible |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282813
1/1/2008 9:13 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
look where mercury is, for the last time.
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
NASA know it can be narrowed down to a craft that is why they have rushed a press release through on New years Day.
Speaks volumes.
______+++++++++++++
thank you Its Not Mercury !!! you happy
how can you guys look at what we are seeing a see a craft??
Why would a craft look like that?
I think this thread has gone a little nerdy!
Don't know what it is but I will not start talking about little green guys!!
good night
Ice, I think you need a new "study group," or perhaps a better orbit simulator like Celestia, which is free to download. LOL
Part of the problem is that STEREO A&B COR2 images are relatively new (circa Mar 2007). If STEREO A COR2 were active in early Jan 2007 when Mercury was roughly in the same location as it was on 22 Dec -- behind Sol and below the ecliptic -- you'd see what I mean, and agree that the artifact in the 22 DEC STEREO image is Mercury.
I can't post videos, but I encourage you to download Celestia and look at where Mercury was on 22 Dec -- relative to STEREO A, and compare that to early Jan 2007, before the days of STEREO A COR2.
Also, use any orbit diagram and look at where Mercury was in early Jan 2007 -- again relative to STEREO A -- and see if you don't agree.
Finally, on August 19, 2007, Mercury was located slightly above the ecliptic, and behind the sun. The images from STEREO A on this date are very similar to those of 22 Dec, with regard to brigthness and size. The exception, of course, is Mercury's position relative to the ecliptic.
Mercury behind Sol, but above ecliptic, 19 August 2007:
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
.
.
I understand why you are posting this. My mind can't get around anything but Mercury but now I now this is not Mercury.
Go back and look at first post and run video. This thing is clearly spinning CCW with a debris field. Its not Mercury and its not a craft. We are being lied to by people that know because something like this doesn't just show up!
ice
Ice ... I don't see the CCW rotation that you refer to, unless your talking about the effects of the CME and 978.
Also, keep in mind that the STEREO COR2 camera appears to have an "auto level" control, and that the brightness of sunspot 978 [on the Eastern side] appears to be affecting the camera level -- making Mercury appear dimmer around 28 Dec.
Lastly, the CME plasma likely creates a lens effect, which causes some distortion in the appearance of Mercury
.
. |
| <October>
User ID: 312470
1/1/2008 9:13 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
.
.
August 18, 2007, STEREO A COR2:
Mercury is behind Sol but ABOVE ecliptic.
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Dec 26, 2007, STEREO A COR2:
Mercury is behind Sol but BELOW ecliptic.
[ link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Do I have to go on?
December 2007 was the first time that STEREO A COR2 imaged Mercury in it's "controversial" position.
It's Mercury.
.
.
Extrapolating the trajectory from your second link, it certainly seems to be Mercury a few days later...
Now I'm wondering why NASA published the Deep Impact story today. Unless it's supposed to be a good beginning to 2008...?
PR, etc...
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I Serve The Lady;
for Goodness' Sake.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| The Lone Ranger
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 9:14 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
This is not about nancy or PX its about the Original post.
Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun
Why that is basically true, originally; the subject of this thread is ALSO interwined with other threads currently active on GLP.
It's the bigger picture of GLP wherever you guys like it or not.
huh? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 343574
That's ok. If you cannot understand what was SAID simply then you have NOT read the WHOLE thread.
Our conversation is now over. Back to the entertainment.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
------------------------------------
"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09 |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 9:17 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Rerun Oddgun, this is from the zetatalk website regarding Phil. You might be surprised.
"ZetaTalk: Phil Schneider
Note: written on Apr 15, 1997
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When this former government engineer involved in the construction of underground installations broke his security code and talked, alarm lit up the elite within the CIA and military who saw their personal escape hatch to avoiding the coming cataclysms closing. His death was not only to silence him, it was to send a clear and unmistakable message to any others who might be contemplating breaking their security oath. Should he have been found dead in an apparent suicide, the message would have been blurred. Thus he was gunned down, a simple engineer meeting a death that Mafia kingpins might meet, a death that would not be mistaken for a simple mugging or robbery. This worked, and most of the subsequent information leaks have been disinformation designed to cloud the facts so that the truth fades and begins to look silly alongside the company it must keep.
References to the Service-to-Self aliens the CIA had so quickly allied with are most often misunderstood, as where they were present in the underground installations, and where their technology was being examined by the military, the rules of engagement they were operating under are not understood by the populace hearing these tales. The military was warned not to tamper with certain devices, but proceeded anyway under the assumption that the warning was to keep them from knowledge, rather than harm. The orders to proceed endangered both the humans and aliens in the vicinity, but the Service-to-Self aliens cared only for their own safety and reacted in a manner that escalated into what has been interpreted as a shoot out. Each side thought they were defending themselves.
The alliance with Service-to-Self aliens occurred in the old days of MJ12, and matters are much different in the present day. MJ12 has come to the realization that they were lied to, and that the alien visitors come in two flavors, and have steadily migrated to an alliance with aliens in the Service-to-Other such as ourselves. Little of the old alliances remains today.
All rights reserved: ZetaTalk@ZetaTalk"
She has something to say about the others you mentioned as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348645
I don't see how this would surprise me, it supports my hypothesis. Our enemy has one agenda and makes a million little groups of unwitting followers to divide people into a million different opinions when there is ONE TRUTH. This being the proof that even aliens (angels, demons...call it what you will) are fooled into these factions. Again...ego at play. |
| Boomerang
User ID: 299985
1/1/2008 9:17 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
It can't possibly be Mercury.......the Zetas said its Moons of Planet X!
hehe
This is going to be interesting. |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 9:19 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
So have we decided that it is mercury in those films? That would set this puppy to rest. |
| MJ
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 9:20 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Comet Buster Whizzes Past Earth
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Deep Impact
Jan. 1, 2008 -- A comet-busting NASA spacecraft zipped past Earth on Monday on its way to rendezvous with another comet in an extended mission that will also see it hunt for Earth-sized planets around a cluster of stars.
The Deep Impact probe made the first of three flybys designed to use the planet's gravity to hurtle the spacecraft toward comet Hartley 2 for a 2010 meeting.
At its closest, the spacecraft was 10,000 miles above Australia.
"We're taking laps around the sun until the comet comes," said William Blume of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
In 2005, Deep Impact became the first spacecraft to crack open a comet by releasing a copper impactor that smashed into Tempel 1, giving scientists their first glimpse of the interior. The mothership survived and was placed in safe mode before it was tapped for an encore.
The new mission, known as Epoxi, calls for Deep Impact to meet Hartley 2 about 12 million miles from Earth at the time of the encounter. Deep Impact will hover 550 miles from the half mile-wide surface and use its two telescopes and infrared spectrometer to map features and record gas outbursts.
On its way to the comet, Deep Impact will spend six months using one of its telescopes to search for Earth-sized planets around five nearby stars, which are known to have Jupiter-like planets orbiting them.
The extended mission, managed by JPL in Pasadena, cost $40 million, compared to the $333 million it took to collide with Tempel 1.
NASA initially wanted Deep Impact's second act to be an exploration of comet 85P/Boethin in 2008. But to scientists' surprise, a bevy of ground and space telescopes were unable to spot it this fall. Astronomers believe the comet may have shattered into specks too small to be seen from Earth.
Mission managers then asked the space agency to change course and visit Hartley 2, which required a path correction and an extra two years of travel.
[ link to dsc.discovery.com]
Stinks to me...
I said it was a craft, but i believe they have been forced to disclose this to cover up what it really is.
This is what we should be discussing.
the relevence of this release on new years day, a weak and desperate attempt to cover up the object on the original post. |
| MJ
User ID: 340335
1/1/2008 9:21 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
So have we decided that it is mercury in those films? That would set this puppy to rest. Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
it 100% is not mercury. |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/1/2008 9:21 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
This is what we should be discussing.
the relevence of this release on new years day, a weak and desperate attempt to cover up the object on the original post. Quoting: MJ 340335
It is irrelevent if the object in question is Mercury.
The Dec 26 th footage shows the same object i think..check it out
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
| The Lone Ranger
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/1/2008 9:23 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
One compelling bit of evidence that one should consider is the vicious and continuous ad hominem attacks by the deniers, (they aren't real debunkers) against Nancy, zetatalk, and anyone who shows any interest. This has never let up and has gone on for years.
If these people are doing this of their own volition it shows a deep seated malignancy in their nature and is sociopathic in a clinical sense. One or even two is believable, but she has a true following in this crowd.
Those that show interested in her material are individual persons who are open minded and curious.
Those who rail against her have formed a collective body that have even given themselves a name and give only the barest pretense at anything other than hate ridden attacks against her, zetatalk or those who show the least bit of curiosity.
Are you certain that reading the words of someone who you do not know is a solid enough reason to discount the poleshift scenario as proffered by Nancy and Zetatalk?
Phil Schneider cannot do a better job of understanding Nancy or the zetas than you can with your own mind and your own reasoning skills.
You'd be letting yourself down if you discounted what she has to say on the word of another rather than what you've gathered for yourself.
Don't fall into the very trap that the deniers are always trying to catch people in.
You're a better judge than any other person could possibly be so see for yourself, and judge for yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348645
Coming from a bunker believer....as you clearly seem to be...that is HIGHLY amusing.
The TRUTH is that what this thread is about.....is NOTHING unusual or mysterious at ALL. But hey keep believing otherwise because come the end of the week it will be just about all forgotten. And then you freaks can get all excited about some other shit!!!!
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09 |
| Menow
User ID: 169333
1/1/2008 9:26 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
So have we decided that it is mercury in those films? That would set this puppy to rest. Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371
HHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA..A..AAA.AAAA.....
As if that is EVER possible with some of these people! |
| Halcyon Dayz
User ID: 337024
1/1/2008 9:28 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I did figure out something I could do with Stelarium:
-Start Stelarium
-Turn off ground and atmopshere
-Search for the Solar System Observer object.
-Press Ctrl G to move to that point.
-Reorient so that you are looking at the Sun and zoom in until you can see the inner solar system.
Note: The planets are orbiting in a counter clockwise manner from this point of view.
Now, notice where Earth is. STEREO Ahead is about 22 degrees in front of Earth in it's orbit. Now, draw an imaginary line from that point through the Sun. Look what happens to be very close to that line, just on the left hand side of it, and traveling from right to left.
Do the same, but from about 22 degrees behind to understand why it doesn't show up in STEREO Behind.
For SOHO, You can assume the line goes from the Earth to the Sun, so do that to understand why it is not showing up in the LASCO imagery. SOHO sits roughly between the Earth and the Sun in the void between Earth's orbit and Venus's orbit. Quoting: Asinine
(_8(|) "D'oh"
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. - Don Marquis
To defy the authority of empirical evidence is to disqualify oneself as someone worthy of critical engagement in a dialogue. - Tenzin Gyatso
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - William of Ockham
The truth maybe out there, but lies are inside your head - Terry Pratchett
HALCYON DAYS STOP BEING A DIPSHIT ALL YOUR LIFE YOU MORON - Anonymous Coward |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 282813
1/1/2008 9:29 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
So have we decided that it is mercury in those films? That would set this puppy to rest.
[ link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
it 100% is not mercury.
It's got to be Mercury.
Look back at other STEREO A COR2 images, and compare the data to orbit diagrams that show ecliptic orientation and you'll see that "IT" is Mercury.
Don't forget that the two STEREO instruments form a 44 degree field of view, and that each instrument is 21 degrees separated from Earth, unlike SOHO, which is located directly between Earth and Sol.
August 18, 2007, STEREO A COR2:
Mercury is behind Sol but ABOVE ecliptic.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Dec 26, 2007, STEREO A COR2:
Mercury is behind Sol but BELOW ecliptic.
[link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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