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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 172574
1/2/2008 1:02 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
show me a pic of this "planet" in the flare ...cuz I don't see anything! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348973
1/2/2008 1:02 PM | | childoflight
User ID: 348958
1/2/2008 1:04 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy is this wobble causing the sun to rise in the Southeast yet set due West? Is it causing the sun to rise a few minutes late and according to some, and I have not checked yet, to set earlier than predicted?Is it causing the birds and other animals to get confused and disoriented? My birds have pretty much vanished this last year along with the bees and butterflies? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275684
1/2/2008 1:08 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
The wobble is called Chandler wobble and it is just something that the planet does. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348973
1/2/2008 1:08 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
You need to enter "Inner solar system (Mars)"
And set the date the 2007 Dec.
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346036
1/2/2008 1:08 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Thank you Nancy, and paying attention over here, lol
13588
<Very childish in my opinion.. " I STARTED THIS THREAD IT'S MINE ALL MINE" then when a poster you dislike comes aboard..... I started this thread i am the OP... Im angry she is stealing my spot-light.. cry cry cry.. nothing about the object... all is well.>
Well said. I think it's time they took their toys and went home. It was very clear NANCY was THE one asked to respond, duh. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 160058
only by you nibiru retards lol |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:10 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
If Asinine is correct that Mercury is in the FOV of Ahead on Dec 31 (and it seems he went about this logically and methodically and indeed there is something that looks like a planet Dec 22-Dec 28 on the Ahead, morphs to a dark swirling ball on Dec 29) ...
Then the outstanding question is WHY is December 2007 transit BELOW the Ecliptic? Is this correct for the tilted orbits or Earth and Mercury, or NOT?
If not, the issue has moved from whether or not it is Mercury, to why has the position of Earth (or Mercury) relative to the Ecliptic changed? Depending upon whether all is normal re this, I have some more info from the Zetas.
I'm on page 33 now, and appolgize if this has all been resolved. Digging forward. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Nancy, why don't you stop pretending that you want to determine the truth? You will reject all data that flies in the face of your PX fantasy. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340359
1/2/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
BS post.....
OP has simply found old footage from soho of Venus passing in front of the sun. thats why you dont have a direct link to site, only videos with no dates provided.
This crap happend in 2004.. OP Your so lame.
c [ link to www.space.com]
One of the rarest observable astronomy events took place today ((08 June 2004))as Venus crossed the face of the Sun for the first time in 122 years. ^^^^
yup |
| Oxygen
User ID: 300487
1/2/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
This is Mercury (31 Dec 2007 from STEREO A):
[link to img530.imageshack.us]
This is Mercury (31 Dec 2007 from STEREO A - STEREO A aligned to the sun to show you where Mercury is. YES Mercury is in the same spot, seen in the original OP's movie):
[link to img216.imageshack.us]
You can verify it too:
Go to [link to secchi.nrl.navy.mil]
Click any of the 4 links (STEREO Spacecraft Orbits and Comets), select the right date and check for yourself!
CASE CLOSED - IT IS MERCURY |
| Nancy Lieder  
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348887
1/2/2008 1:13 PM
 | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
wtf is all this carrying-on?
I'm not about to wade through 40 pages of this shit...somebody boil it down w/ 1-link to 1 pic.
thanks Quoting: Anonymous Coward 260371
Mercury is in the field of view (FOV) and at the right place even if it does not look like Mercury at the left hand side. Looking at animations of the Ahead Stereo cam from Dec 22 to Dec 31 shows the passage. It looks 'odd' toward the end because the light from Mercury is coming through the dust cloud of PX, thus diffuse (like comet P17/Holmes has been, the Zeta explanation for its odd size). This link shows that Mercury IS in the FOV on Dec 31, and to the left hand side.
[link to s260.photobucket.com]
It is not 1685Torror either, not in FOV, per SpaceWeather orbit animation.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
It is not a star, per RAMM's attempts at disinfo. Everyone laughted.
Lots of Moons showed up, per my page at:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
And per the Zetas, the confusion about Mercury was due to the diffuse appearance of Mercury behind the dust cloud of Planet X, full of moon swirls, etc.
Once again, we've arrived at ... Zetas RIGHT Again!
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:15 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy is this wobble causing the sun to rise in the Southeast yet set due West? Is it causing the sun to rise a few minutes late and according to some, and I have not checked yet, to set earlier than predicted?Is it causing the birds and other animals to get confused and disoriented? My birds have pretty much vanished this last year along with the bees and butterflies? Quoting: childoflight 348958
What "wobble"? Is Polaris(the north star) out of place in the sky? No, it's not. There is no "wobble". |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:18 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
right? right?
Right? Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Nancy, stop pretending that you want to know what is "right". |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:20 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
...Then the outstanding question is WHY is December 2007 transit BELOW the Ecliptic? Is this correct for the tilted orbits or Earth and Mercury, or NOT? ...Digging forward.
If its indeed Mercury then ..and this is just an insane thought BUT Could it be that earth orbit has been halted/interfered with? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 308272
Yes, that is an insane thought. The constellations are exactly as they should be for a normal Earth orbit. |
| Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348887
1/2/2008 1:22 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy is this wobble causing the sun to rise in the Southeast yet set due West? Is it causing the sun to rise a few minutes late and according to some, and I have not checked yet, to set earlier than predicted?Is it causing the birds and other animals to get confused and disoriented? My birds have pretty much vanished this last year along with the bees and butterflies? Quoting: childoflight 348958
Depends upon what part of the globe you are on. And unless you are going off past years observations on where the Sun or Moon should be, you should check with a planetarium program to understand where it is expected to be. These progams will tell you, relative to N/S or E/W where to expect a sunrise or sunset. YOU must find a street that is dead E/W or whatever, or building aligned such. Many streets in the Midwest are laid out on such grids, and I think that surveys must have this type of indication.
These pages may help you understand how observations from your part of the globe have shown the wobble to present to you.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:24 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Torro was dismissed earlier in this thread. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
PX was "dismissed" earlier in this DECADE! Did that diminish your delusion? No. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346036
1/2/2008 1:27 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
whatever IT was,whether just one of hundreds of passing unidentifed objects,comet,asteroid,nibiru or whatever...it got burnt to a crisp by the blast.It reminds me of the comet that got blasted a few years ago.Let me go an see if i can find a link to that one.BRB
[ link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com]
This is the one it reminds me of.Link is from ol Kent the Koots site.Except this one didnt get blasted has hard as the new one did.And the new one didnt seem to be this big. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346036
1/2/2008 1:28 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Quite a coincidence that just as this object is passing by the Sun it unleashes a blast right at the object. Wish I had closeup before and after photos of the thing.
This seems to happen alot.Almost like anytime the sun feels threatened by an object,it blasts it.Im sure its much more scientific.Maybe a gravitaional pull triggers it or something...whatever.It sure is awesome to see the power of the sun though.All this Nibiru crap is a bunch of hooey though lol.And these Nibiru people hijacked a great thread an ruined it.
It is true, i knew that that would happen when Nancy started posting in it, now theres pages and pages of her and her trolls to sift through.
Thats it from me.
As far as im concerned the object is a craft and one that NASA have tried to cover up by the rushed through New years day release about their craft doing laps around the Moon.
Sometimes i think her and her Trolls are on the same side.
Bad cop good cop disinformation technique..
Anyway, im out, thanks to everyone for participating. Quoting: MJ 283393 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346036
1/2/2008 1:30 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
its so fun laughing at nibiru woo woos...pissing them off is even funnier hahahaha |
| Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348887
1/2/2008 1:30 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy is this wobble causing the sun to rise in the Southeast yet set due West? Is it causing the sun to rise a few minutes late and according to some, and I have not checked yet, to set earlier than predicted?Is it causing the birds and other animals to get confused and disoriented? My birds have pretty much vanished this last year along with the bees and butterflies?
What "wobble"? Is Polaris(the north star) out of place in the sky? No, it's not. There is no "wobble". Quoting: Menow 185796
It's often too HIGH in the dome, and not exactly North either, per observations.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
But we'll have the GoTo protesters any minute now. How everything is normal and we should trust THEIR statements.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:30 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
In this animation, which stops at 14:30 on Jan 2nd, there is an OBVIOUS Moon of PlanetX (aka Niburu) at 3 o'clock. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Remember when "zetas" identified a known asteroid as PX? |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:33 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I think the answer to this is... Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Nancy you are WELL known for misrepresenting data so that it supports your delusion about PX. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 342314
1/2/2008 1:33 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy makes an appearance on GLP to keep the thread(s) popular cause she's an easy target.
She's like heroine.....really bad for you but you can't help the addiction.
The more we (who know what she's all about) post....trying to enlighten the others.....the more we feed her popularity and help her plight.
Man, where's that damn methodone clinic?! Quoting: SunDawnn
Dang Nancy, you're a good writer!
Some day you should use those talents to make some money, eh!?!?
 |
| Fly Paper
User ID: 20060
1/2/2008 1:35 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Menow-
Using super glue- to stay attached to Nancy,this will go on
like this until the bitter end.Cell phones next hit. |
| Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348887
1/2/2008 1:35 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
The increased size due to the dust cloud of Planet X is affecting P17/Holmes too, the Zeta explanation. From Oct 27, 2007 live chat with the Zetas.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Q: Would the Zetas comment on comet 17P/Holmes? Why this huge increase in brightness now? [and from another] Exploding Comet [Oct 27] [link to www.spaceweather.com]
The mystery exists only because the scientists are not acknowledging the factors at play. What is new and not being considered? We have stated repeatedly that the tail of Planet X has returned. It hoses out from the N Pole of Planet X, which is increasingly pointing toward Earth. This tail is immense, and wafts afar. Fine red dust has been deposited on Earth from 2003 to the present because the tail was wafting past Earth. Fireballs and meteors are on the increase for the same reason. The atmosphere of Earth has been affected so that Sun halos or Moon halos appear, and odd red neon clouds appear. What does this charged red dust cloud, surrounding the Earth and clouding the view into space, mean for comet viewing? Comet P17/Holmes is reportedly out near Jupiter's orbit, and is not itself affected by the dust cloud, but the light rays coming from the comet are affected when they pass through the cloud.
We have often, and at length, described why the Sun at sunrise or sunset appears huge, just as it is at the horizon. Light rays in the orange/red spectrum bend more readily than light rays in the other colors spectrums. During full daylight, the light rays in the other color spectrums dominate, moving directly from the Sun to the viewer's eyes. But at sunrise and sunset, these light rays are passing overhead, not hitting the viewer's eyes, the Sun shielded by the curvature of the Earth so that only those light rays that can bend can strike the viewer's eyes. Bending light rays do more than follow the curvature of the Earth, bent by the gravity of the Earth. Those rays that would normally head out into space are bent back toward Earth, pulled by the gravity of Earth, so the object they originated from, the Sun, thus appears larger. Is this happening to comet 17P/Holmes? The descriptions of the comet's increase in size include describing the comet as "yellow", with a "buttery glow", which is a way of stating the presence of light rays in the orange/red spectrum. It is not that the comet itself is emitting these rays in excess, it is that the other rays are being deflected by the dust cloud so the percentage of rays in the orange/red spectrum begin to dominate. Thus, like the Sun at sunrise or sunset which appears larger due to light rays in the orange/red spectrum bending back toward Earth, comet 17P/Holmes gives the illusion of being larger and more golden than it is in reality.
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:36 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Relevant to today's discussion and what they WANT you to believe? Not Planet X but just as ansteroid, thus the insistence on 1685Torro, which we keep explaining is not in the FOV on Dec 31. I knew 'asteroids' would be the 'official' explanation. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Nancy, your "zetas" once identified a KNOWN ASTEROID as PX. Gee how'd that happen? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 346036
1/2/2008 1:37 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
zeta woo woos wrong again lol |
| Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348887
1/2/2008 1:37 PM
| | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
In this animation, which stops at 14:30 on Jan 2nd, there is an OBVIOUS Moon of PlanetX (aka Niburu) at 3 o'clock.
Remember when "zetas" identified a known asteroid as PX? Quoting: Menow 185796
Those were humans on the team, NOT the Zetas, liar.
Menow, back at work, eh? Your REAL job as government debunker :-).
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Rerun Oddgun
User ID: 346371
1/2/2008 1:41 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
This is Mercury (31 Dec 2007 from STEREO A):
[ link to img530.imageshack.us]
This is Mercury (31 Dec 2007 from STEREO A - STEREO A aligned to the sun to show you where Mercury is. YES Mercury is in the same spot, seen in the original OP's movie):
[ link to img216.imageshack.us]
You can verify it too:
Go to [ link to secchi.nrl.navy.mil]
Click any of the 4 links (STEREO Spacecraft Orbits and Comets), select the right date and check for yourself!
CASE CLOSED - IT IS MERCURY
Ok, you about got me sold, but I have one more question. Compare the size of Mercury, which according to ALL data is opposite the sun from us...
Why is it so large?
Mercury is tiny in All footage of it...the footage of it transiting the sun shouw it as its true nature...millions of times smaller than the sun....a speck compared to a sun that doesnt even fit on the screen
Why then does this object that is farther away than the sun, seem to be so massive in comparison to Mercury's true size
Reallly, this is all I need to know and I'm sold
The Object in question on lasco (refer to both pieces of footage that show most of the orbit between the 26th of december and the first of january), is orbiting around the far side of the sun (obvious from light reflection properties of object throughout footage), from right to left and arcing back towards us (just as mercury is shown in maps and your link to do)
But....
This object is only a fraction of the size of the sun...not millionths the size...
It would have to be a massive body for us to view it as such a large object on this footage considering we know it to be farther away from us than the sun
And mercury is what?...3032 miles....
Watch the video of mercury's size when in transit of the sun....
then explain why this object is so much farther away ...but so much larger than mercury when it is between the earth and the sun, not on the other side of it |
| Nancy Lieder
Forum Moderator
User ID: 348887
1/2/2008 1:41 PM
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Here's the page the liar Menow was referring to. Note that ZetaTalk is not involved! The Zetas believe in allowing humans to work things out for themselves, as they learn by this process. They don't want dumbies being lectured to. They want growth. This thread is an example of that. Lots of hard work, by HUMANS, and I certainly learned a lot in the process!
[link to www.zetatalk3.com]
The moving object that is next to 3 stars is 2001 KS14. See the attached pictures. I don’t recall that we called it PX, or PX moon. I have followed HNSKY instructions on using minor planet data from MPC in HNSKY. HNSKY reports Asteroid 2001 KS14 at RA 4 21 44.5 DEC 12 08 32. DSS2 shows the object is almost at RA 4 21 44.547 DEC 12 08 32.17
Jan 10 Images: Time in UT:
Jan10-1.fts 2003-01-10 06:54:41 10.287974537
Jan10-2.fts 2003-01-10 07:05:32 10.295509259
Jan10-3.fts 2003-01-10 07:17:03 10.303506944
Jan10-4.fts 2003-01-10 07:27:57 10.311076388
Jan10-5.fts 2003-01-10 07:38:53 10.318668981
Naji
The images were taken around 7 UTC so that would be about 10.29 and give an RA 04 21 44.7 Dec 12 08 35 which is right where that object shows up on the images.
Steve
[link to www.zetatalk3.com]
I processed (only with the dark) a sum and a median image. I'm so glad to see on Jan 10 images the first undoubtful moving object! It is "A" on the Cunningham image [below] and it looks like an asteroid. I calculated the speed of "A" (Cunningham image) object.
horizontal speed : Vx ~= 0.001065 deg (Dec) = 7.94e-05 hour RA
vertical speed : Vy ~= 0.002662 deg (Dec)
It is too fast to be Planet X itself. Taking only the horizontal speed, the object would reach the next coordinate Dec for Jan 21 in almost in 1 day! And it moves up very quickly. Could be a moon or something else. Could be a NEO crossing the field. Now you must write to IAU, and then we can know if :
- it is an existing asteroid ?
- it is a new object!
You could rename Nibiru or one of its moon by your name, Steve! So it is very important to post this observation to IAU!
Pierre-Eric
If the asteroid/object was at 4 SunPluto then its speed is 1/888 the speed of light, slower than the speed of light, and assuming that it has 2 D motion. If it was a PX moon, then it’s too fast, would escape from PX.
Naji
I wrote to the IAU last month for the Dec 13-14, 2002 images. One of their people responded right away and we had several back and forth dialogues but the end result was that they would not acknowledge that they would, or could look at the images. He said they were too busy to look at every set of images people send in even though I did everything he asked and reported it in exactly as they detail to do on their site. This went on all day so he was taking the time to respond etc.
I reported the objects in the format they request, I emailed them the FITS files encoded as they request, I offered to send it through FTP, I gave him a link he could download them from and even as a last resort I sent a BMP with the objects circled with comparison DSS that he could just view by opening his email up. He even said with the BMP that he could not open that type of file (as far as I know he wouldn't even have to open it to see it as it's displayed with the email text) and told me not to send anymore images and that was the last response I got from him. So a big run around and I don't think they're going to acknowledge anything no matter what I send in!
Steve
It's silly excuse... When someone discover a supernovae you have very few time to observe it, and for an asteroid you have to track it as soon as possible not to loose it. The true reason, I think, is that it is unusual objects. But I think you should try with "A" object on Jan 10 images, because it is an obvious asteroid-like object, and they can't hesitate (noise or defects). It is a well known situation for them, so they can't find an excuse this time! (I have already seen images of an asteroid, is it just like that!). By the way, you should contact people who work on Near Earth Objects.
[link to cfa-www.harvard.edu]
They can't play the game "we will see later..." when an asteroid is possibly coming to earth... it's their job to quick identify it!
Pierre-Eric
First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Menow
User ID: 185796
1/2/2008 1:42 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy, can you give me your take on what this object is, at Jan 2, pops up about 3 oclock?
[ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
Thanks
Okay, what I am wanting you to see didn't show up.
Go to [ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
Click on MPEG Movies,
then
go to the picture Lasco C2, 512x 512. At 1/1/08, it pops up, actually closer to one oclock.
There's another moon at 1 o'clock too.
[ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
Same thing, illumination from the RIGHT, from Planet X, not the Sun.
Now you are claiming that PX provides greater illumination, of objects near the Sun, than the Sun itself?!?
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy... |
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