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| Nancy Lieder   Forum Moderator User ID: 348887 1/2/2008 1:43 PM
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This is Mercury (31 Dec 2007 from STEREO A):
[ link to img530.imageshack.us]
This is Mercury (31 Dec 2007 from STEREO A - STEREO A aligned to the sun to show you where Mercury is. YES Mercury is in the same spot, seen in the original OP's movie):
[ link to img216.imageshack.us]
You can verify it too:
Go to [ link to secchi.nrl.navy.mil]
Click any of the 4 links (STEREO Spacecraft Orbits and Comets), select the right date and check for yourself!
CASE CLOSED - IT IS MERCURY
Ok, you about got me sold, but I have one more question. Compare the size of Mercury, which according to ALL data is opposite the sun from us...
Why is it so large?
Mercury is tiny in All footage of it...the footage of it transiting the sun shouw it as its true nature...millions of times smaller than the sun....a speck compared to a sun that doesnt even fit on the screen
Why then does this object that is farther away than the sun, seem to be so massive in comparison to Mercury's true size
Reallly, this is all I need to know and I'm sold
The Object in question on lasco (refer to both pieces of footage that show most of the orbit between the 26th of december and the first of january), is orbiting around the far side of the sun (obvious from light reflection properties of object throughout footage), from right to left and arcing back towards us (just as mercury is shown in maps and your link to do)
But....
This object is only a fraction of the size of the sun...not millionths the size...
It would have to be a massive body for us to view it as such a large object on this footage considering we know it to be farther away from us than the sun
And mercury is what?...3032 miles....
Watch the video of mercury's size when in transit of the sun....
then explain why this object is so much farther away ...but so much larger than mercury when it is between the earth and the sun, not on the other side of it Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371
Per the Zetas, it is only APPEARING large because the light from Mercury is coming through the immense dust cloud of Planet X. This has wafted past Earth too, and is why P17/Holmes seems to huge. I just posted this, so check the explanation. Light rays normally going out to the sides are bend back in toward our view. The same reason our sun just rising or setting can suddenly look gigantic! An illusion, caused by light rays being bend. And yes they DO bend. Your feet aren't off to the side like they look when you stand in water, etc. First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 346036 1/2/2008 1:44 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Here's the page the liar Menow was referring to. Note that ZetaTalk is not involved! The Zetas believe in allowing humans to work things out for themselves, as they learn by this process. They don't want dumbies being lectured to. They want growth. This thread is an example of that. Lots of hard work, by HUMANS, and I certainly learned a lot in the process!
[ link to www.zetatalk3.com]
The moving object that is next to 3 stars is 2001 KS14. See the attached pictures. I don’t recall that we called it PX, or PX moon. I have followed HNSKY instructions on using minor planet data from MPC in HNSKY. HNSKY reports Asteroid 2001 KS14 at RA 4 21 44.5 DEC 12 08 32. DSS2 shows the object is almost at RA 4 21 44.547 DEC 12 08 32.17
Jan 10 Images: Time in UT:
Jan10-1.fts 2003-01-10 06:54:41 10.287974537
Jan10-2.fts 2003-01-10 07:05:32 10.295509259
Jan10-3.fts 2003-01-10 07:17:03 10.303506944
Jan10-4.fts 2003-01-10 07:27:57 10.311076388
Jan10-5.fts 2003-01-10 07:38:53 10.318668981
Naji
The images were taken around 7 UTC so that would be about 10.29 and give an RA 04 21 44.7 Dec 12 08 35 which is right where that object shows up on the images.
Steve
[ link to www.zetatalk3.com]
I processed (only with the dark) a sum and a median image. I'm so glad to see on Jan 10 images the first undoubtful moving object! It is "A" on the Cunningham image [below] and it looks like an asteroid. I calculated the speed of "A" (Cunningham image) object.
horizontal speed : Vx ~= 0.001065 deg (Dec) = 7.94e-05 hour RA
vertical speed : Vy ~= 0.002662 deg (Dec)
It is too fast to be Planet X itself. Taking only the horizontal speed, the object would reach the next coordinate Dec for Jan 21 in almost in 1 day! And it moves up very quickly. Could be a moon or something else. Could be a NEO crossing the field. Now you must write to IAU, and then we can know if :
- it is an existing asteroid ?
- it is a new object!
You could rename Nibiru or one of its moon by your name, Steve! So it is very important to post this observation to IAU!
Pierre-Eric
If the asteroid/object was at 4 SunPluto then its speed is 1/888 the speed of light, slower than the speed of light, and assuming that it has 2 D motion. If it was a PX moon, then it’s too fast, would escape from PX.
Naji
I wrote to the IAU last month for the Dec 13-14, 2002 images. One of their people responded right away and we had several back and forth dialogues but the end result was that they would not acknowledge that they would, or could look at the images. He said they were too busy to look at every set of images people send in even though I did everything he asked and reported it in exactly as they detail to do on their site. This went on all day so he was taking the time to respond etc.
I reported the objects in the format they request, I emailed them the FITS files encoded as they request, I offered to send it through FTP, I gave him a link he could download them from and even as a last resort I sent a BMP with the objects circled with comparison DSS that he could just view by opening his email up. He even said with the BMP that he could not open that type of file (as far as I know he wouldn't even have to open it to see it as it's displayed with the email text) and told me not to send anymore images and that was the last response I got from him. So a big run around and I don't think they're going to acknowledge anything no matter what I send in!
Steve
It's silly excuse... When someone discover a supernovae you have very few time to observe it, and for an asteroid you have to track it as soon as possible not to loose it. The true reason, I think, is that it is unusual objects. But I think you should try with "A" object on Jan 10 images, because it is an obvious asteroid-like object, and they can't hesitate (noise or defects). It is a well known situation for them, so they can't find an excuse this time! (I have already seen images of an asteroid, is it just like that!). By the way, you should contact people who work on Near Earth Objects.
[ link to cfa-www.harvard.edu]
They can't play the game "we will see later..." when an asteroid is possibly coming to earth... it's their job to quick identify it!
Pierre-Eric Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Insanity at its finest. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 346036 1/2/2008 1:45 PM | | Rerun Oddgun User ID: 346371 1/2/2008 1:47 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote | Okay...I just figured out why this room fell apart....
Look...present facts...not anyone's opinion or what they "heard" from someone else, this goes for all...just for the sake of proving/disproving the matter at hand
And debunking is NOT disproving |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 308272 1/2/2008 1:49 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote | **********
Ok its Mercury I herby apologize to everyone on this thread for freaking out and loosing sense of direction. It seems the reason it appeared above the ecliptic and so to me at a different trajectory/orbit and a major increase in size was due to a dust cloud. I can live with that as to believe in the alternative. Thanks Nancy May the blessings be.
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| childoflight User ID: 348958 1/2/2008 1:49 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Nancy is this wobble causing the sun to rise in the Southeast yet set due West? Is it causing the sun to rise a few minutes late and according to some, and I have not checked yet, to set earlier than predicted?Is it causing the birds and other animals to get confused and disoriented? My birds have pretty much vanished this last year along with the bees and butterflies?
Depends upon what part of the globe you are on. And unless you are going off past years observations on where the Sun or Moon should be, you should check with a planetarium program to understand where it is expected to be. These progams will tell you, relative to N/S or E/W where to expect a sunrise or sunset. YOU must find a street that is dead E/W or whatever, or building aligned such. Many streets in the Midwest are laid out on such grids, and I think that surveys must have this type of indication.
These pages may help you understand how observations from your part of the globe have shown the wobble to present to you.
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
[ link to www.zetatalk.com] Quoting: Nancy Lieder
I am in Omaha Nebraska. |
| Nancy Lieder   Forum Moderator User ID: 348887 1/2/2008 1:51 PM
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Ok its Mercury I herby apologize to everyone on this thread for freaking out and loosing sense of direction. It seems the reason it appeared above the ecliptic and so to me at a different trajectory/orbit and a major increase in size was due to a dust cloud. I can live with that as to believe in the alternative. Thanks Nancy May the blessings be.
********** Quoting: Anonymous Coward 308272
Mercury is below the Sun when passing behind it and above the Sun when in front of it. It SHOULD be right where it was on the animations. It was its odd appearance that had us hung up at the end of the discussion. First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi. |
| Jew boy User ID: 346036 1/2/2008 1:55 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote | There are no aliens and there is no nibiru lol receive Yehshua now before its too late. |
| Rerun Oddgun User ID: 346371 1/2/2008 1:56 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
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Ok its Mercury I herby apologize to everyone on this thread for freaking out and loosing sense of direction. It seems the reason it appeared above the ecliptic and so to me at a different trajectory/orbit and a major increase in size was due to a dust cloud. I can live with that as to believe in the alternative. Thanks Nancy May the blessings be.
********** Quoting: Anonymous Coward 308272
Increase in size due to dust cloud?
C'mon...did the Don tell you to say that?
Fugedabout it...tell em it was a 'dust cloud'?
What kind of data backs that?
This things was represented on video and hundreds of times what Mercury should show up as....
I dont want to argue with or about Zetas, I just want a logical answer...
Show me any other video or pic where Mercury is represented as this large in comparison to our Sun, especially when it is at the point in it's orbit when it is farther than us from the sun...
Please...make sense...speak logically
Prove yourself...
And show your work....
I'll be grading on facts
Thank you. |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 1:57 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I love it when people attempt to speak authoritatively on subjects they know nothing about. They like to use words like "clearly" as if whatever they are GUESSING is the only possible explanation.
Well **YOU** certainly don't have one!!!
SHILL Quoting: Sock Puppet
Don't have an explanation? The explanation has been given several times. You just prefer to believe in Nancy's delusions. |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 1:59 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Anyone with any info update since last night? I left off with being sure it wasn't Mercury or Toro, and especially not this Deep Impact Craft.....
Then we saw a few more objects (moons perhaps) to the far left in a later pic....
Any good debunking, or perhaps factual info NOT handed down from Zetas?..I wouldn't believe them if they were standing in front of ME.
And why would that be? Quoting: Sock Puppet
Well... gee... I dunno... maybe because of the multiple past lies? And no, not just the "white lie"? |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:03 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
That cam is 21 degrees forward of Earth, per Asinine (I have no reason to doubt this). Quoting: Nancy Lieder
No, Nancy, you only "doubt" things that will show your silly claims to be wrong. Anything you can contort to use in your favor, you accept with no confirmation whatsoever. If Asinine had said anything you couldn't fit into your fantasy, you would be calling him a paid liar at this same moment. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 348999 1/2/2008 2:03 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote | This "Sunspot C-Class Explosion" happened because of the presence in our Solar System of the KUIPER BELT ALIENS (KBA), who created the Saturn Hexagon, the destruction of the farside of Pluto and now the amassing of over 3,000,000 "SPACESHIPS" within the Kuipers Astertoid Belt and Great Oort Cloud.
The KUIPER BELT ALIENS utilize very, very advanced "ETHERIC TECHNOLOGY" and the current "Solar Activities" they have created in our Solar System, are interesting to say the least! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 346036 1/2/2008 2:04 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
This "Sunspot C-Class Explosion" happened because of the presence in our Solar System of the KUIPER BELT ALIENS (KBA), who created the Saturn Hexagon, the destruction of the farside of Pluto and now the amassing of over 3,000,000 "SPACESHIPS" within the Kuipers Astertoid Belt and Great Oort Cloud.
The KUIPER BELT ALIENS utilize very, very advanced "ETHERIC TECHNOLOGY" and the current "Solar Activities" they have created in our Solar System, are interesting to say the least! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 348999
What a RETARD LOL |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:05 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Please explain in simple terms for the simple folks, me included . What is to be expected of this ? Quoting: A question for Nancy 103699
What is to be expected is that Nancy will have acquired more pure bullshit to add to her website, and certain people will eat it up with a spoon. |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:11 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
To show graphically what I’m talking about when I say the NASA FOV diagram
[ link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
shows that for the Stereo Ahead cam to be able to see Mercury on Dec 31 would be impossible. That cam is 21 degrees forward of Earth, per Asinine (I have no reason to doubt this). Mercury is more than 45 degrees to the LEFT of the Sun by this time. See my marked up diagram of the NASA diagram.
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
Ipso facto, it is either not Mercury or … Mercury is not where it should be or … Earth is not where she should be and … what does this mean?
Nancy, either no one else have realized this, or they have and is stunned in silence ... at this moment I'm more inclined to believe its planetX than to believe the orbit have changed. Its beyond my comprehension. Even if you compare the images with the same period last year the trajectories are all wrong. I think I need a break to gather my thoughts and do more research. It was nice to have you here.
Indeed. All things else aside, it is difficult to argue this point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328
Only because, as usual, Nancy confidently piles on enough mumbo-jumbo so that uneducated people are unable/unwilling to wade through it to find the fallacies.
The "All things else aside..." means that you don't REALLY know if she is bullshitting you. She is.
Why don't you ask a REAL astronomer? Oh... that's right... Nancy has that base covered by convincing you that they are ALL in on the "coverup(tm)".
Right... |
| Rerun Oddgun User ID: 346371 1/2/2008 2:11 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
There are no aliens and there is no nibiru lol receive Yehshua now before its too late. Quoting: Jew boy 346036
If you believe in God..or Genesis...you should believe in aliens...
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Need I go on?
Alien means one not of this world
You yourself should be an alien and a sojourner in this place...as if you follow Him, you await a city who's builder and founder is God, just as Abraham
and therefore was not of this world..he was God's
As are His ministering spirits...
And those enemies of God that fell with Lucifer
(refer to Ezekiel 28/Isaiah 14)
These also would be "aliens" by definition
Enemies do a lot of things to misdirect the eyes of men from God.... |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:13 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Does anyone disagree with this analysis? Please speak, coz this thread is starting to make me feel crazy. Quoting: habjabdoobab 336011
Then why don't you take it to an astronomy forum where they can give you real answers? |
| Rerun Oddgun User ID: 346371 1/2/2008 2:13 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Anyone with any info update since last night? I left off with being sure it wasn't Mercury or Toro, and especially not this Deep Impact Craft.....
Then we saw a few more objects (moons perhaps) to the far left in a later pic....
Any good debunking, or perhaps factual info NOT handed down from Zetas?..I wouldn't believe them if they were standing in front of ME.
And why would that be?
Well... gee... I dunno... maybe because of the multiple past lies? And no, not just the "white lie"? Quoting: Menow 185796
Agreed...
Need no info from a source that denies ANY truth..... |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:16 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I have only an observation to add to this thread, it has occurred to me that some of us have been noticing the sun does not come up as early as it should. Could this be significant? I know I posted in early December and just today fieldolight posted a thread to this effect as well. Hope this helps to get people thinking outside of the box. Quoting: Canuck 325838
You mean outside of the box of rationality? Go to ANY astronomy club and ask them if the Sun is coming up too late. See if you think they are ALL lying. |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:19 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I've in the past accused Nancy of a cult leader and that still may be so, but if that object is Mercury then I'm speechless ... can you even comprehend what that means ... the orbit of either mercury or earth have changed. I'm even now praying it is planetX because I cant believe that the earths orbit has changed. Please someone take me out of my misery and prove to me that is not Mercury. I'm parrying I missed something important somewhere...
********** THIS IS TO BIG TO BELIEVE ******** Quoting: Anonymous Coward 308272
Of course you have missed something important. You have been reading a conspiracy forum for information rather than consulting with someone who knows what they are talking about. |
| Rerun Oddgun User ID: 346371 1/2/2008 2:20 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
I have only an observation to add to this thread, it has occurred to me that some of us have been noticing the sun does not come up as early as it should. Could this be significant? I know I posted in early December and just today fieldolight posted a thread to this effect as well. Hope this helps to get people thinking outside of the box.
You mean outside of the box of rationality? Go to ANY astronomy club and ask them if the Sun is coming up too late. See if you think they are ALL lying. Quoting: Menow 185796
I think people are thrown by the 3 week jump on Savings Time this year...cause that seems to come up a lot despite data showing to the contrary....
But I'd still like a response to my post about the szie of "?Mercury?" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 308272 1/2/2008 2:21 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Then why don't you take it to an astronomy forum where they can give you real answers? Quoting: Menow 185796
Would you mind to post one of those real answers or link specific to the OP's object if you have it. Its a sincere request and I'm not sarcastic. I Need clearer answers to, its been a roller-coaster ride. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 346036 1/2/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
There are no aliens and there is no nibiru lol receive Yehshua now before its too late.
If you believe in God..or Genesis...you should believe in aliens...
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Need I go on?
Alien means one not of this world
You yourself should be an alien and a sojourner in this place...as if you follow Him, you await a city who's builder and founder is God, just as Abraham
and therefore was not of this world..he was God's
As are His ministering spirits...
And those enemies of God that fell with Lucifer
(refer to Ezekiel 28/Isaiah 14)
These also would be "aliens" by definition
Enemies do a lot of things to misdirect the eyes of men from God.... Quoting: Rerun Oddgun 346371
I beleive in angels and fallen demonic angels.Not little green or grey men with bigheads lmao Shall I go on? |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
The object IS Mercury, in my opinion. Your graphic is better than mine. If Mercury is behind the Sun then the explanation for its large size, appearing to have a dust cloud around it, rotating or whatever, is due to any light from Mercury being diffused through the plume matter. My thoughts. Quoting: Nancy Lieder
The only "plume matter" is in your head, Nancy. |
| Boomerang User ID: 299985 1/2/2008 2:25 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Q: There appear to be several objects wafting between the Sun and the SOHO/LASCO satellite, appearing on December 22, 2007 and there today, New Year’s Day January 1, 2008. These are most dramatic on the C2 animations that NASA provides. Some of these objects move steadily from right to left, but some come come and go from view. We sighted Planet X in a C2 frame on Dec 23 to the right of the Sun, as expected, but these objects are wafting all over in view. Are these moons of Planet X, a moon swirl wafting into the satellite view?
SOZT
We alluded to a Christmas season surprise, and stated on the live chat on December 29 that the two global phenomena that had appeared were not ALL that should be anticipated. The Christmas Hammer
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
appeared on December 22 during the shove of the Earth done daily when the magnetic N Pole of Earth comes over the horizon into range of the N Pole of Planet X. On December 23 a frame of LASCO C2 caught the reflection of sunlight
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
from the corpus of Planet X and its shroud of dust, seen trailing off to the left. If the tail, in this frame, is trailing off to the LEFT, then this is the direction the dust cloud is WAFTING. And where do you see these object newly noted? The objects are migrating right to LEFT? These are moon, more specifically moons in a particular moon swirl, visible only because they are positioned, temporarily, exactly between the SOHO/LASCO satellite and the Sun.
But their presence, so very much in the direction of Earth, presages another phenomena that will soon be evident to all on Earth. About this we will say little, in keeping with our desire to have the establishment discombobulated so the cover-up splits wide open like a rotten melon, spewing the truth about so broadly that it can not be quickly dismissed.
EOZT Quoting: Nancy Lieder
To all the bunkers that excuse Nancys words by offering the "nancy is only human' story.
Note the SOZT and the EOZT.
That indicates Start of Zeta Talk...and...End of Zeta talk.
The Zetas are reporting that it might be the moons of planet, it could be the swirls from the hosing of the magnetic skirts of PXs moons.
When are you bunkeroos gonna get it? |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:25 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
Please explain in simple terms for the simple folks, me included . What is to be expected of this ?
SOZT
Were it not for the op of this thread having posted in alarm at what he saw as a large orb near a flare of the Sun, many irregularities would have been overlooked. These irregularities have been in place since the end of 2003 when the Earth was halted in her orbit by the gravity presence of Planet X standing in her path. She has since been trapped in her stopped orbit, pushed back in her orbit while Planet X moved closer to the Sun and then began an outbound path. As we have explained, Earth is caught in an eddy flow of particles coming round the backside of Planet X from the Sun. She cannot move forward or backwards in her orbit on her own, as these particle flows are so intense they in essence form a wall, blocking her.
While Earth is in this trapped orbit position, we, the Zetas, and other benign aliens have been allowed to tilt the Earth forward and back, or bob her higher or lower in the Ecliptic, to simulate the seasons. This has in fact been done during many past pole shift periods in order to maintain life on Earth and not allow a stopped Earth from frying or freezing her intelligent species. Beyond simulating the seasons, this effort allows the populace of Earth to gradually become aware of the coming pole shift and the devastation this will cause. The goal is not so much to repress panic in the public, the common man, but to placate the establishment. It is THEIR panic that would be horrific, as they would mow down the common man in the streets, attempt to impose martial law, and implement their plans to murder many millions of what they consider unwanted mouths to feed.
But the simulated seasons and manipulation of other planets in the solar system to effect the simulation of normalcy is not perfect. In addition, the Earth has developed a wobble, a daily figure 8 of the geographic N Pole, and recently this figure 8 has developed a strong lurch and rebound due to the growing confrontation between the magnetic N Pole of Planet X and the magnetic N Pole of Earth. There has been no attempt to disguise this wobble or the irregular weather it propagates, as those on Earth who are open to realizing the coming changes must be allowed to contemplate these irregularities and come to the right conclusions. Those in the public who would panic or react in fear can deny. Those in the establishment who fear the public becoming aware and making demands upon them are placated as the cover-up appears alive and well. But those who have eyes that see can begin to research and plan to move their loved ones to safe locations.
The result of this discussion on this thread on GLP will be that a few more have become educated, have seen the inability of any official explanation for what has been noted, and have seen the desperate attempts of the debunkers to throw out alternate explanations. The orb presumed to be Mercury does not have the traditional aspect of passing planets, appears too large, and loses its light halfway through the passage. What kind of dust cloud could be obscuring the view of Mercury, and diffusing the light so it looks too large? What kind of dust is swirling in front of the light from Mercury, that it appears to be rotating in place? The asteroid 1685Torro was thrown out as the explanation but likewise is not in the field of view per official orbit diagrams, nor did the attempt from a NASA stooge to claim it as a star gain any advocates. But what WAS discovered were many moon like objects, reflecting light from the right hand side of the Sun. What is that light source? Clearly it is the object that was reflected on a December 23 LASCO image, an object with a tail drifting to the left, showing that the tail debris would logically be drifting left to be in front of the SOHO/LASCO cameras.
Where is this leading? We have hinted that the drama is not yet over. We have hinted that earthquakes will be involved, and things seen in the skies. We are not allowed by the rules to be precise in our predictions, so cannot warn mankind of coming dangers. Regarding anything that would tend to prove the existence of Planet X and cause the cover-up to split open, we likewise do not want to clue the establishment into what that might be, as we WANT them to stumble. We WANT the participants in the cover-up to be frightened and blurt out the truth or fail to maintain the cover-up so that holes in the story line are obvious. Beyond this, it is leading to more severe Earth changes, which we have been predicting since the start of ZetaTalk. Diasaster will become so common they will no longer hit the news, and may not even be locally reported. Emergency management teams will be exhausted, and may not even notice a change in leadership in the White House during this time, Pelosi or Gore in the Oval Office at long last. These disasters, increasing at what seems an exponential rate, will morph into the last weeks we have so carefully details. And then the pole shift!
EOZT Quoting: Nancy Lieder
Anyone who accepts the above story as factual, deserves it. |
| Rerun Oddgun User ID: 346371 1/2/2008 2:27 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
There are no aliens and there is no nibiru lol receive Yehshua now before its too late.
If you believe in God..or Genesis...you should believe in aliens...
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Need I go on?
Alien means one not of this world
You yourself should be an alien and a sojourner in this place...as if you follow Him, you await a city who's builder and founder is God, just as Abraham
and therefore was not of this world..he was God's
As are His ministering spirits...
And those enemies of God that fell with Lucifer
(refer to Ezekiel 28/Isaiah 14)
These also would be "aliens" by definition
Enemies do a lot of things to misdirect the eyes of men from God....
I beleive in angels and fallen demonic angels.Not little green or grey men with bigheads lmao Shall I go on? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 346036
So what do they look like?
Don't be stubborn so you don't know your enemy's devices. |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:28 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
The object IS Mercury, in my opinion. Your graphic is better than mine. If Mercury is behind the Sun then the explanation for its large size, appearing to have a dust cloud around it, rotating or whatever, is due to any light from Mercury being diffused through the plume matter. My thoughts.
You Scaring me Nancy ... I may be totally overreacting, going insane or totally gullible ... this is a major REVELATION .. Where are all the other posters now? Don't they realize what this means????? FFS Quoting: Anonymous Coward 308272
It means that Nancy has succeeded in contriving another new layer of semi-believable tripe for her website. |
| Menow User ID: 185796 1/2/2008 2:32 PM | | Re: Breaking *** NASA ** Sunspot C-class explosion , shows a strange object orbiting the Sun | Quote |
wtf is all this carrying-on?
I'm not about to wade through 40 pages of this shit...somebody boil it down w/ 1-link to 1 pic.
thanks
Mercury is in the field of view (FOV) and at the right place even if it does not look like Mercury at the left hand side. Looking at animations of the Ahead Stereo cam from Dec 22 to Dec 31 shows the passage. It looks 'odd' toward the end because the light from Mercury is coming through the dust cloud of PX, thus diffuse (like comet P17/Holmes has been, the Zeta explanation for its odd size). This link shows that Mercury IS in the FOV on Dec 31, and to the left hand side.
[ link to s260.photobucket.com]
It is not 1685Torror either, not in FOV, per SpaceWeather orbit animation.
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
It is not a star, per RAMM's attempts at disinfo. Everyone laughted.
Lots of Moons showed up, per my page at:
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
And per the Zetas, the confusion about Mercury was due to the diffuse appearance of Mercury behind the dust cloud of Planet X, full of moon swirls, etc.
Once again, we've arrived at ... Zetas RIGHT Again! Quoting: Nancy Lieder
No. Once again we have arrived at: Nancy and "zetas" bullshitting again. |
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