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Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest???
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349433
1/3/2008 2:52 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
No. It looks like the Sun!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349545
1/3/2008 2:54 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349433
Top right hand corner Troll. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349433
1/3/2008 2:59 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
It SHOULD be moving to the right until the middle of the month. Just look at the orbit diagram and advance the date. As for the other objects, there need be no connection to this asteroid.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349433
1/3/2008 3:01 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349545
Not a troll. The object was so inconspicuous I did not spot it. Could it be an asteroid? I see no reason why not. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340886
1/3/2008 3:06 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
this thread is fucking hilarious. U about the funny fuckers U R! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340886
1/3/2008 3:09 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
The title of this thread should be asteroids bombard the sun. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 256229
1/3/2008 3:12 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
I think 1983 is the year Robert Harrington pointed out Nibiru's location on a map. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103356 (OP)
1/3/2008 3:12 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Yes, this could be 3200 Phaethon. Its orbit diagram indicates its close to the Earth-Sun line of sight and will remain so for a few weeks
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Great link. By looking at the image linked below, you will see that on Dec. 31, 2007, 3200 Phaethon was more so in the line of sight than Mercury.
[link to img87.imageshack.us]
Some of you are referring to the size of the object. How can you tell that the object is bigger than Jupiter? You have to take into account the zoom capability of the Stereo telescope. If they are zoomed in on the Sun and an object passes through the field of view, it will appear larger than it really is. You also have to take into account the fact that the Sun is illuminating the object as well which makes it easier to see. IMO, the "Mystery Object" is 3200 Phaethon. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103356 (OP)
1/3/2008 3:23 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Yes, this could be 3200 Phaethon. Its orbit diagram indicates its close to the Earth-Sun line of sight and will remain so for a few weeks
[ link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Great link. By looking at the image linked below, you will see that on Dec. 31, 2007, 3200 Phaethon was more so in the line of sight than Mercury.
[ link to img87.imageshack.us]
Some of you are referring to the size of the object. How can you tell that the object is bigger than Jupiter? You have to take into account the zoom capability of the Stereo telescope. If they are zoomed in on the Sun and an object passes through the field of view, it will appear larger than it really is. You also have to take into account the fact that the Sun is illuminating the object as well which makes it easier to see. IMO, the "Mystery Object" is 3200 Phaethon.
Another thing, as the asteroid passes between the Earth and the Sun it is moving left to right. The Stereo telescope sends back a reverse image just like SOHO does. That would make the object move from right to left just like in the mpegs that have been linked to. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340268
1/3/2008 3:55 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349545
Actually, it looks like The Cat in the Hat. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 316369
1/3/2008 4:39 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Im a Zetan and I am hijacking this thread. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 340268
1/3/2008 4:47 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Im a Zetan and I am hijacking this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316369
I'm a Seitan and you can eat me. |
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King Neptune
User ID: 304696
1/3/2008 5:01 PM
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:firstconta:
All we have is hope that a dragon will be born again, and one will rise to lead us to freedom. |
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alaaan
User ID: 349620
1/3/2008 5:18 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
that object near the sun when it blasted reminded me very much of phobos some years ago when close up footage of that was all the rage.i think it was phobos,correct me if i am wrong.In any case it was so much like huge potatoe in the sky.The only difference i saw in the sun footage is that potatoe is now ragingly hot.bit of sour cream and the whole world is fed.MY new sciance fiction/fact novel will be called" HUGE ROAST POTATO" by EE antburger |
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Ice
User ID: 8768
1/3/2008 6:14 PM
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another sun view
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
look at C3 bottom right
short view
2 objects!
You have until 2016 to get your Act together! Be Wise! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103356 (OP)
1/3/2008 6:27 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Are you talking about the two brightest objects? If so the one on the right is Jupiter, the one on the left is Mercury. This further proves that the Mystery Object is not Mercury. In the Stereo mpeg, the object is close enough to the Sun that the CME tentacle appears to reach out and touch it. In the C3 image Mercury is gone and out of site, no where near the Sun or the tentacle.
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] - 512x512 3.0MB
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] - 256x256 475K |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103356 (OP)
1/3/2008 6:30 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
another sun view
[ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
look at C3 bottom right
short view
2 objects!
Are you talking about the two brightest objects? If so the one on the right is Jupiter, the one on the left is Mercury. This further proves that the Mystery Object is not Mercury. In the Stereo mpeg, the object is close enough to the Sun that the CME tentacle appears to reach out and touch it. In the C3 image Mercury is gone and out of site, no where near the Sun or the tentacle.
[ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] - 512x512 3.0MB
[ link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] - 256x256 475K
Sorry bad links.
C3 512x512 (3.0 MB)
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]
C3 256x256 (475K)
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] |
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Skytoucher
User ID: 332304
1/3/2008 6:35 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
If Nasa never meant for the objects around the Sun to be discovered then we'd have to assume they've attempted to hide the objects from view.
Too bad I don't have the time or a program to sift though all the chem trail posts here on GLP and the net and try to find correlations when many people reported heavy chem trials from various cities at the same time.
We could then look at the areas of space that those cities should have been able to see on a clear day and we'd have possible locations for this/these objects.
I mean if I were in charge of Nasa and was trying to hide a heavenly body this big and had computers that could tell me which areas of the planet could visibly see the heavenly body and when, I'd just make the skies real cloudy that day in those areas.
I'm not saying this is whats happening, but if Nasa was trying to hide it, wouldn't this be the best way? |
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Koala
User ID: 349671
1/3/2008 6:54 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
I'm not an expert in this Field, but it seems that too many so called experts are ignoring the simple facts that this object was hit and subsequently lit up by the solar flare - in simple terms it must be very close to the Sun itslef, period !!!
Therefore it must be a planetary object of considerable proportions.
Classic Case of too many Cooks spoil the broth !!! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339218
1/3/2008 7:10 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
MEANING...... son of the sun-god HELIOS...... meaning of the name of this so called rock...now why would they name this thing this name......interesting. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103356 (OP)
1/3/2008 7:11 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
I'm not an expert in this Field, but it seems that too many so called experts are ignoring the simple facts that this object was hit and subsequently lit up by the solar flare - in simple terms it must be very close to the Sun itslef, period !!!
Therefore it must be a planetary object of considerable proportions.
Classic Case of too many Cooks spoil the broth !!! Quoting: Koala 349671
We don't know for sure that it was hit by the CME. It does sort of appear that way but the object could just be between the CME and the Sun. As far as it having to be a planetary body, I don't agree. Comets and asteroids can be hit as well. The asteroid that I believe it to be (3200 Phaethon) just happens to be just outside the Mercury orbit which places it as the closest known object to the Sun at this time.
[link to img87.imageshack.us] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 262265
1/3/2008 7:20 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Earth is about to pass through a debris stream from near-Earth asteroid 2003 EH1....
this is tonight
Forecasters expect a brief but intense peak of 50+ meteors per hour over Earth's northern hemisphere sometime between 0200 UTC and 0700 UTC on Friday morning, Jan. 4th. (Subtract 5 hours to convert UTC to EST.) The timing favors observers in the eastern USA, Europe and western parts of Asia....
[link to www.spaceweather.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349671
1/3/2008 7:31 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
We don't know for sure that it was hit by the CME. It does sort of appear that way but the object could just be between the CME and the Sun. As far as it having to be a planetary body, I don't agree. Comets and asteroids can be hit as well. The asteroid that I believe it to be (3200 Phaethon) just happens to be just outside the Mercury orbit which places it as the closest known object to the Sun at this time.
quoting ID 103356
Thanks for the reply -
So to solve the mystery we now need to only establish if this object was indeed hit by the Sun Flare
Please correct me if I'm wrong - if it can be established that this object was hit by the sun flare then one could argue that it was not 3200 Phaethon because the camera would not have been able to pick up a body so small, right ?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 103356 (OP)
1/3/2008 8:16 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
I stand corrected. This object most likely is Mercury. I found a page that lets me determine the actual locations of the Stereo A/B telescopes and this is what I found.
[link to img232.imageshack.us]
Sorry folks, move along, nothing to see here.
:doh: |
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Phasesphere 
Captain Trypps
User ID: 246701
1/3/2008 8:20 PM
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yawwwwn Quoting: SolarMax
I find it strange that you were not into the Comet Holmes thread. In fact your abscense was peculiar to say the least. Some of us were waiting for input from you and a couple of others. From Comet Holmes, to the Mars impact on the 8th of Jan, now to this anomoly; It would seem that we are now traveling in a denser area of the Cosmos. This might be the leading edge of some type of dust cloud, that remains to be seen, but if the anomolies increase we may just well be intersecting something that cannot be seen unless it is illuminated. Now with this thread we've got a new one at 1:00 on the X-ray Stereo Image. But anyway, glad to see you are back Solar Max. Give us your impressions on Comet Holmes please.
All the world's indeed a stage, and we are merely players, performers and portrayers. Each anothers audience, outside the gilded cage, -Neal Peart
Face your fear, accept your role, It is what it is.-Phasesphere
Time is a face on the water. -Stephen KIng |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 279244
1/3/2008 8:20 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
I See it looks like some kind of craft possibly.
[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
upper right /Expand image People
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RAMS
User ID: 339020
1/3/2008 8:26 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
According to Wikipedia, Phaethon is only 5.1 km in diameter. Would something that small show up so large in SOHO's images?
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
No , it would not. Other assets would detect it easily in visible light spectra, however.
RAMS |
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RAMS
User ID: 339020
1/3/2008 8:29 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Another thing, as the asteroid passes between the Earth and the Sun it is moving left to right. The Stereo telescope sends back a reverse image just like SOHO does. That would make the object move from right to left just like in the mpegs that have been linked to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 103356
Excellent! You are correct. Thus, the imaging is easiest to place it, or pipe it through in Apple's Quicktime and set the imaging to "Reverse: Horizontal".
RAMS |
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RAMS
User ID: 339020
1/3/2008 8:32 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
Yes, Ice, great example of the "Off Echo" effect, which artifacts in imaging from both SOHO and STEREO, since both register in non visible spectra, and thus, "echos" appear as 'somthing', when in fact it is just the signature.
Good post. Thank you for sharing that and pointing it out to us.
RAMS |
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RAMS
User ID: 339020
1/3/2008 8:35 PM | | Re: Arecibo Spies New Asteroid Near Sun - Could This Be Our Mystery Guest??? | Quote |
If Nasa never meant for the objects around the Sun to be discovered then we'd have to assume they've attempted to hide the objects from view.
Too bad I don't have the time or a program to sift though all the chem trail posts here on GLP and the net and try to find correlations when many people reported heavy chem trials from various cities at the same time.
We could then look at the areas of space that those cities should have been able to see on a clear day and we'd have possible locations for this/these objects.
I mean if I were in charge of Nasa and was trying to hide a heavenly body this big and had computers that could tell me which areas of the planet could visibly see the heavenly body and when, I'd just make the skies real cloudy that day in those areas.
I'm not saying this is whats happening, but if Nasa was trying to hide it, wouldn't this be the best way? Quoting: Skytoucher
Not trying to be truculent, but posts like yours defy logical unpacking for even the remotest understanding. Reverse what you have posted:
- So NASA puts the hardware up, manages it, and then discovers, then 'hides' the discovery -
You do understand how insane that premise is, don't you?
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