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| pman26
User ID: 486605
8/17/2008 8:49 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
U fucking liberals crack me up ur so damn blind you have no idea about any of this shit you just belive what u want a critisize everyelse you know what is the antichrist you pussy ass obama followers shove that up your big fat liberal asses |
| dove
User ID: 486830
8/18/2008 7:41 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
I would just like to express my own personal opinion that those truly interested in seriously discussing this issue, pro AND con, in a respectful and intelligent manner are unfortunately being lost amongst the tantrums of the anger/ignorant/hate-filled on BOTH SIDES! For those who are truly interested in hearing what TRUE believers know, not all who agree on this manner, to check out the links below.
With an open mind, regardless of your own personal beliefs at this time. Many making the argument for Obama being the antichrist are obviously NOT born-again Christians themselves but very possibly racist or simply immature "shit disturbers" (pardon my language) While many of their opposition are not remotely interested in sincere open dialogue and only serve to illuminate a rightfully growing sense of bitterness and disillusionment that plagues America today.
How can folks use the Bible to effectively and truthfully support their claims if they obviously do not consider the Bible to be the Living word of God? The Bible often talks of a time, increasingly so towards the rapture, of the Church bickering quite vehemently amongst itself. Between those who hold firm that the Bible is the only, true and literal word of God and those that believe that the Church should adapt with the changing world (despite the Bible clearly stating that God and His word are eternal and unchanging) God CANNOT lower His standards, especially if it is desired by man because we have come to so lower our tolerance of sin and wickedness.
The point is this, whether you believe and recognize the signs or not, the Bible clearly states that SOON a time will come when there will be No doubt left. For those who read this forum, Christ commands have not changed. Hate the sin BUT love AND forgive the sinner unconditionally. Work hard to walk with the Lord and live a life that glorifies Him for that is the most effective way to witness the grace and transformitive abilities of Christ. Living as hypocrites only serves to belittle our credibility. And for those who do not believe, that is your choice, God gave us ALL free will and the Bible states that FEW will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Hell was NOT made for man but because of our arrogance and disobedience we are ALL deserving of hell, even believers, the only difference and all God asks of us, is to acknowledge our sinful nature, that we cannot change on our own, believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He died and was resurrected to pay the price for our sin-debt and through simply asking for forgiveness through Jesus Christ we WILL be spared judgment for all transgressions. Past, present AND future. NOT hopefully, as Obama proclaimed on CNN this weekend. And should any of you who currently do NOT believe, when you ARE left without any doubt please be willing to repent then. It will not be easy. For God promises to those still unrepentant AFTER the rapture, they may still repent but may NOT take on the mark of the beast and that the 7 years following the rapture WILL be HELL on earth! I do not say these things in judgment for no man/woman EVER born except Jesus is worthy of paradise including myself but God loves us and wants to forgive us we must simply believe and ask! Our deeds can NEVER save us, we are all too imperfect, even Christians. That is what we mean when Christians say it is through GRACE we are saved. God loves us so much that despite how sinful and imperfect we all are (even Christians) he is willing to pardon ALL our shortcomings if only we repent. I leave this post and the following links for those not SO prideful and those who will be left behind so that they may still find salvation because I am commanded by Christ to love even my enemy who may ridicule me and call me crazy so that we may ALL live in paradise!
[link to www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com]
[link to www.jesusiscoming.org.uk]
[link to www.crossroads.ca]
(Please forgive my long-windedness, I truly and lovingly! fear for the unsaved, NOT because I am so righteous but because I myself was and continue to struggle with my own shortcomings as we all do and will do so all our earth bound days. But if I can be forgiven, NO ONE is beyond redemption. Also please forgive my oftentimes dubious spelling :P NOT a strong point of mine!) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 481557
8/18/2008 7:52 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
 Yous all jus vote for little ol Obama now 
cos I gonna runs things just right   |
| Average Joe
User ID: 487169
8/18/2008 7:47 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
I assume that if Obama really is the antichrist, real Christians will be rooting for him to take office, correct?
The 2nd coming and rapture can't happen until after the antichrist rises to power, right?
Why would Christians want to screw up the process? Haven't they been waiting long enough? Quoting: Mark 486553
No stabble minded Christian would ever root for such a terrible event to take place. Christians are waiting for for the rapture not hoping for it. You have to understand the prophecy states that the Antichrist will be responsible for a body count that will total around a billion. Also many Christians will be slaughtered before Christ is suppose to appear and strike the antichrist down.
No my friend those will be the most terrible times humanity will ever face.
Though many Christians are disgusted with none believers as well as those who will be fooled and fight for the antichrist, true Christians do not wish death on them either. |
| Average Joe
User ID: 487169
8/18/2008 8:27 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
I would just like to express my own personal opinion that those truly interested in seriously discussing this issue, pro AND con, in a respectful and intelligent manner are unfortunately being lost amongst the tantrums of the anger/ignorant/hate-filled on BOTH SIDES! For those who are truly interested in hearing what TRUE believers know, not all who agree on this manner, to check out the links below.
With an open mind, regardless of your own personal beliefs at this time. Many making the argument for Obama being the antichrist are obviously NOT born-again Christians themselves but very possibly racist or simply immature "shit disturbers" (pardon my language) While many of their opposition are not remotely interested in sincere open dialogue and only serve to illuminate a rightfully growing sense of bitterness and disillusionment that plagues America today.
How can folks use the Bible to effectively and truthfully support their claims if they obviously do not consider the Bible to be the Living word of God? The Bible often talks of a time, increasingly so towards the rapture, of the Church bickering quite vehemently amongst itself. Between those who hold firm that the Bible is the only, true and literal word of God and those that believe that the Church should adapt with the changing world (despite the Bible clearly stating that God and His word are eternal and unchanging) God CANNOT lower His standards, especially if it is desired by man because we have come to so lower our tolerance of sin and wickedness.
The point is this, whether you believe and recognize the signs or not, the Bible clearly states that SOON a time will come when there will be No doubt left. For those who read this forum, Christ commands have not changed. Hate the sin BUT love AND forgive the sinner unconditionally. Work hard to walk with the Lord and live a life that glorifies Him for that is the most effective way to witness the grace and transformitive abilities of Christ. Living as hypocrites only serves to belittle our credibility. And for those who do not believe, that is your choice, God gave us ALL free will and the Bible states that FEW will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Hell was NOT made for man but because of our arrogance and disobedience we are ALL deserving of hell, even believers, the only difference and all God asks of us, is to acknowledge our sinful nature, that we cannot change on our own, believe that Jesus is the son of God and that He died and was resurrected to pay the price for our sin-debt and through simply asking for forgiveness through Jesus Christ we WILL be spared judgment for all transgressions. Past, present AND future. NOT hopefully, as Obama proclaimed on CNN this weekend. And should any of you who currently do NOT believe, when you ARE left without any doubt please be willing to repent then. It will not be easy. For God promises to those still unrepentant AFTER the rapture, they may still repent but may NOT take on the mark of the beast and that the 7 years following the rapture WILL be HELL on earth! I do not say these things in judgment for no man/woman EVER born except Jesus is worthy of paradise including myself but God loves us and wants to forgive us we must simply believe and ask! Our deeds can NEVER save us, we are all too imperfect, even Christians. That is what we mean when Christians say it is through GRACE we are saved. God loves us so much that despite how sinful and imperfect we all are (even Christians) he is willing to pardon ALL our shortcomings if only we repent. I leave this post and the following links for those not SO prideful and those who will be left behind so that they may still find salvation because I am commanded by Christ to love even my enemy who may ridicule me and call me crazy so that we may ALL live in paradise!
[ link to www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com]
[ link to www.jesusiscoming.org.uk]
[ link to www.crossroads.ca]
(Please forgive my long-windedness, I truly and lovingly! fear for the unsaved, NOT because I am so righteous but because I myself was and continue to struggle with my own shortcomings as we all do and will do so all our earth bound days. But if I can be forgiven, NO ONE is beyond redemption. Also please forgive my oftentimes dubious spelling :P NOT a strong point of mine!)
Dove, you seem to be a very good person and worthy to enter the kingdom of God when that day comes. But understand those who follow the antichrist (who ever that person my be) will be punished by gods fury. These people can repent till their hearts content but god will not spare them because they should have known better. Remember the bible also states: an eye for and eye and tooth for a tooth.
Remember what the great Philosopher Plato said: the only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. We will all be judged make no mistake about that. But those who have or will do evil, well their punishment will be terrible. And those who have been ignorant will have to face some minor form of punishment as well depending on what their deeds were.
Your right though, we are all siners including myself as well. But that doesn't take us off the hook of knowing right from wrong. We can't live by today's liberal belief that if it feels good do it. This type of belief will bring more into sin than ever before.
Take Care Dove |
| dove
User ID: 486830
8/18/2008 11:36 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
I just sent the following to Pastor Warren's ministry and await there reply but I thought I would post it here as well as said above, the worst thing good people can do is sit by and do nothing. I am trying to live according to God's will in order to be the best Ambassador for Christ I can be and sound out the alarm for those who will listen for there IS still time and through God ALL things are possible, many can and will yet come to the Lord before His return (whenever that is, only the Father knows the exact momment!) And I will pray for strength when not only the secular world but also family/friends and even "believers" abandon and/or ridicule those who are sincere and are not deceived. God bless everyone (believer AND non-beleiver) :)
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An open letter to Rick Warren and all who saw/will see the “faith forum” with Obama and McCain:
I watched the “Faith Forum” on the weekend with great interest. As a born-again Christian who believes that the Bible IS God’s living world divinely inspired through His prophets and apostles and that God is LIGHT and CANNOT deceive and therefore the Living Word IS to be taken literally. To do so otherwise only creates confusion and God gives clarity. WHEN an analogy/metaphor etc IS used it is clearly given as such. For instance using similes such as “He is like…:” versus “I am…” So taking this as an exploration of each candidate in regards to their “faith” I felt I must compare each of their respective answers to what the Bible says IS. Here is what was revealed to me…(and others!)
You asked…what their faith means to them…
Obama- It immediately stuck me when he used “hopefully” his sins will be washed away! Hopefully?! God promises that IF we acknowledge we are sinners, repent and thus accept Jesus as our PERSONAL saviour we ARE forgiven (through grace as express through Jesus’s sacrifice)
McCain- Answer in accordance to the scriptures!
You asked….when does life begin…
Obama - said he could not answer as it was beyond his pay grade! We praise God for the Bible because in too numerous versus to cite right now God says it begins at conception and to NOT protect that life from conception IS murder! And in regards to Obama claiming women do not enter into the decision without great consideration is certainly contrary to MY personal experience. The VERY reason so many abortions take place that women put soooo little thought into it they don’t even honour their sexuality/bodies/sanctity of marriage and too often get pregnant without concern because they know they can to easily “fix” that.
McCain - again answered according to scripture! God states in the Bible he knows each and every one of us even BEFORE we are born. NO woman who goes through with her unplanned pregnancy (despite any insuring hardship) ever regretted having their child. Too numerous women suffer from great regret/depression often years later or even their whole lives after having an abortion. Answer this…if an anti-abortionist is PRO life… what?! Is a pro-choicer against?!
You asked whether evil exist AND gave the following FOUR options
…should we -ignore it?
-negociate with it?
-contain it?
-defeat it?
Obama- did NOT answer. Instead he added a 5th option “confront” it! Very deceitful! As it is true, we ALONE cannot defeat evil we are still commanded to live our lives with the conviction that evil IS and WILL be defeated! Interesting that Obama didn’t even want to consider containing it! Which WILL happen during Christ return and His 1000 year Kingdom on earth before final judgement of the unsaved!
McCain-again! Without hesitation McCain triumphantly declared “defeat it!” The scriptures say that the selfishness and wickedness we inflict on one another abroad and in the home (as Obama alluded to) is part of Satan’s plan to distract and deceive us so that we do not find salvation/do not grow in Christ when we do/are made poor ambassadors for Christ through our reluctance to defer to God‘s will!
You asked each to give a $ amount for what constitutes being rich. Now IF you are asking as a question of FAITH (this WAS a FAITH forum) you CANNOT give a number! The scripture has much to say on this…
-we are NOT to build our riches on earth…
-we are NOT to worry about tomorrow ( “ye of little faith…” )
-it is easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven (through NOT impossible!)
-MONEY is the ROOT of ALL EVIL!
Obama- was NOT answering in faith but using a secular measure!
McCain- recognized that richness was not necessarily a $ amount! Many rich men are very unhappy (which implies that some of the most poor are amongst the most happy-myself included!)
In summary…
Obama made great effort to avoid answering ANY of the pastor’s questions directly in order to give the “impression” of faith despite NONE of his convictions having ANY basis in scripture! I sadly believe McCain LOST the election answering as God dictates.
Other comments Obama made with NO basis in scripture/even contradict scripture include…
He did NOT know what lies beyond this life!?! The Bible clearly states COUNTLESS times! Paradise (Heaven) for the redeemed and the abyss (Hell) for the unrepentant! God is utterly by His very character UNABLE to deceive YET Obama who “professes” to be a Christian does NOT witness to this! If to be a Christian one merely recognize a power greater then themselves/greater purpose, believe that God exist and that Jesus died for our sins then TECHNICALLY Satan is a Christian! NO! To be a Christian means we have repented and thus IMMEDIATELY all our sin-debts are COMPLETELY wiped away including ALL PAST, PRESENT and FUTURE transgressions!
The CHURCH refers to nothing more/less then the “body of Christ” meaning the collective of ALL who have repented and been born again in Christ. The Church’s purpose…
- to fellowship with other Christians in order to worship God and to encourage one another so that we may grown in our reliance and faith in the Lord. That reminds me of Obama’s discouraging remarks regarding those who turn to God in their hour of need/trouble…that is what God TELLS us to do. For by ourselves we ARE incapable of overcoming our trials and tribulation thusly we MUST turn to God the Father through Jesus Christ His Son if we truly desire to defeat evil!
Various books in the Bible, including Daniel and Revelation, tell of the growing falling away and division of the Church through the deceptive divisionary tactics of Satan. It is not enough to acknowledge evil BUT also to know the author of LIES who encourages our blindness of God TRUTH and that Satan IS REAL. His greatest accomplishment being his convincing EVEN Christians that Satan is not a real person. Again, contradictory to the scriptures!
What McCain KNOWS that Obama is either oblivious to/consciously ambiguous about is that God is NEVER CHANGING! SIN IS SIN. Today as much as it has EVER been. We CANNOT/MUST NOT! Lower our standards of righteousness ESPECIALLY because our TOLERANCE to sin has increased!
Jesus IS coming! No one but the Father knows the precise hour as He will come like a thief in the night! But we must make our hearts ready and PRAY, amongst other things, for the revival of the Church (especially the complacent!) so that we step up our efforts in spreading the Gospels and using what time we have left to live as ambassadors of Christ in EVERY aspect of life (as Christians we cannot separate any aspect of our lives, even political, no matter how uncomfortable it makes people - and it will! Just because they don’t want to hear doesn’t mean it is not truth and they do not need to hear it!.
Now I MUST be honest and confess I have numerous suspicions regarding Obama and not just regarding his politics! Admittedly many people are making accusations that Obama may/is the antichrist. But before you reject this conclusion too quickly consider the following…
YES! MANY of those online making the claim online are “nut jobs” and are NOT making their conclusion based on scripture. MOST of these people ARE anti-Obama/racist/anti-Republican/anti-abortion/anti-gay marriage/”crazy” and MOST don’t even believe in God and/or the Bible! BUT, contrary to what many “Christians” who dismiss this claim forget is…
-while God tells us NOT to look for sings, we WILL see signs IF we DO NOT allow ourselves to be deceived! (One of the reason He gave us the Bible AND gives us the Holy Spirit)
-the Bible TELLS us that MOST, even the Church WILL NOT recognize the antichrist when he is FIRST revealed HOWEVER MANY will recognize him! AND those who DO first recognize him WILL be discredited/ridiculed as the Church has increasingly lost authority/been ridiculed/hated/compromised as part of Satan’s plan to deceive!
-the Bible TELLS us that while no one but the Father KNOWS the PERCISE time of Christ return, the generation that LIVES to see the reinstatement of Israel and the beginning of the return of the Jewish people AND the reclaiming of Jerusalem (ALL which have taken place in this generation’s lifetime!) WILL be THE generation that LIVES to see the rapture and the return of Christ AND His Kingdom here on earth!
-if you do not accept the WHOLE of the Bible as the TRUE LITERAL LIVING WORD of God, then ALL of it is loses authority and Jesus truly died in vain!
Many, myself included REJOICE in the revelation that Jesus is not only coming BUT we, HERE on earth NOW! Now know that His return is immenent! God’s plan is nearing fulfillment BUT time IS running out and we pray that those who STILL REFUSE to SEE will “get right” with God through redemption in Jesus Christ BEFORE ALL see and it is too late!
PLEASE do NOT lose sight of the Churches TRUE purpose and what it REALLY means to be redeemed through Christ AND what the Bible REALLY says!
God bless us ALL!
Nancy Eldridge
(I apologize for my long windedness, I even wanted to say more!)
I pray that Pastor Warren has NOT fallen under the sway of Obama especially without REALLY (word for word) SEEING what Obama REALLY answered/deceitfully did not answer/only answered in part/or answered contradictory to what God says! Please Pastor Warren, you are too influential a figure NOT to go back and truly compare the answers/declaration/hesitation versus lack of hesitation/conviction to which Obama answers versus how McCain answers! |
| True Man
User ID: 473627
8/18/2008 11:45 PM | | OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
8/19/2008 11:28 AM
 | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
OP
I DARE you to go back through history just a few years and see all of the opinions that GORBACHEV was the anti-christ! It's amazing what individuals like yourself can "pull together out of thin air" to prove their point. At the end of the day, it's groundless and paranoid speculation. My advise is to get a different hobby....and MAYBE a LIFE! Don't you have better things to do? |
| dove
User ID: 486830
8/19/2008 4:57 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
It was early in the morning, late in 2004. Very early. Most people in the airport looked as though they could have done with an extra week or so in bed. I was flying back from New York to Los Angeles waiting to board a plane when a tall man asked me, "What rows did they call?" I answered, "First class . . . the rich folks." He smiled and said, "Yeah. The ones who should be going on their own Learjet." I handed him a Million Dollar Bill tract and said, "Here's the down payment on your Learjet." When he smiled, I passed him a Department of Annoyance tract, and said, "And here's my card." He turned it over and to my horror began to read out loud the gospel message on the back--despite the fact that the text was printed in reverse to give me getaway time. When I quickly added, "It's a gospel tract," he mumbled "I'm an atheist."
While atheism is the ultimate intellectual suicide, I can understand why some people are tempted to believe that there's no God. The previous night I had listened to a CNN report that scientists had discovered why human beings are more intelligent than animals. I was intrigued with their assumption, and listened to how scientists believed that 20 million years ago we developed larger brains. They predicted that the human brain will continue to grow, giving us larger heads. This will mean that future generations will see more Cesarean births. I admired the newscaster's ability to remain straight-faced.
A few minutes later, CNN reported that after a giant tsunami in Southeast Asia killed multitudes, authorities could hardly find any animals that died in the flooding. They surmised that the animals had some sort of intelligence that caused them to move to higher ground when the tsunami-causing earthquake struck. It was human beings who stayed on the beach to take pictures of the wave as it approached.
As I stood in line at the airport, the morning newspaper showed a picture of a ten-year-old piece of grilled cheese sandwich which was said to bear the likeness of the Virgin Mary. It was sold on eBay to an "intelligent" human, who paid $28,000 for it.
It is information like this that should help anyone with any intelligence to realize that humanity isn't as intelligent as we are led to believe. While most Christians are too smart to bite into the error of Virgin Mary toast, they profess a faith that makes no sense. While watching TV in my hotel room the night before, I saw a well-known pastor talk about his book, which has sold a phenomenal 20 million copies. He said that God's agenda for humanity was to "make our lives better." That was a summation of his message.
Tell that to those who were burying tens of thousands of human corpses after the tsunami hit. Tell that to the fathers who hold the dead bodies of their beloved children in their arms, or to the relatives of those who died of horrific diseases. It doesn't take much intelligence to realize that if there is a God who created all things, He must be all-powerful. Nothing is impossible for Him. He therefore could have easily prevented unspeakable agony by simply lifting His finger off the earthquake button. But He didn't.
Yes, there is plenty of evidence (from cheese sandwiches to tsunamis) for a thinking person to conclude that a God of love who is all-powerful and wants to better the life of humanity doesn't exist. If He did, He would immediately get a supply of good food to the starving in Africa so that their lives may be better, or at least provide some rain to grow their crops.
During that same day the tsunami hit, 150,000 other people died around the world--about 40,000 of starvation. If He wanted to make our lives better, perhaps He could also halt the parade of killer hurricanes that line up to regularly devastate the U.S., or He could slow down the hundreds of terrifying tornadoes that take precious human lives each year. Maybe He could even whisper to us a cure for the cancers that are killing millions annually, including innocent children.
A quick look at Jeremiah 9:21-24 gives the answer to this intellectual dilemma. How could God be loving and yet allow suffering? The Bible tells us that He is in control, and that He does send judgments to this earth. God is love, but He's also just and holy and if He gave us what we deserve, the tsunami of His holiness would sweep us all into Hell.
Imagine you have knowledge that a bridge has been washed out by a terrible storm, on a dark and moonless night. You stop all approaching cars and say, "The bridge that spans a thousand-foot chasm has been washed away! Please turn your vehicle around." The violence of the storm itself is enough to convince any thinking driver that you are speaking the truth, and those who have the sense to believe you do turn around.
Tsunamis, terrible diseases, agonizing cancers, massive earthquakes, devastating tornados, killer hurricanes, awful suffering, and death itself are very real and violent storms that should be enough to convince any thinking person that our warning is true.
The message of Christianity isn't one of God wanting to better this life for humanity. It is one of warning of a terrible fate in store for those who continue on the road of sin. We are told by God's Word that there are two deaths on the highway to Hell. The first death is when we leave the storms of this life and pass into timeless eternity. The second death is the chasm of eternal damnation. It is the terrifying justice of a holy God.
So with the cheese sandwich insanity, and the confusion about the message of Christianity, I could sympathize with my atheist friend in the airport. When he professed atheism it gave me the opportunity to humbly cite my atheist credentials. I said, "I wrote a book called God Doesn't Believe in Atheists: Proof the Atheist Doesn't Exist." Then I told him that I was a platform speaker at the American Atheists' national convention in 2001. I offered, "It's really easy to prove God's existence." He replied, "It's not healthy for me to talk about God." I said that I could understand that, and added, "But you are a reasonable and open-minded person, so you can listen to me for two minutes."
He gave me the okay, so I told him how he could know for sure that God existed, that God had given him a conscience and that if he even lusted after a woman, Jesus said that he had committed adultery already with her in his heart. I also mentioned that if a criminal was given a death sentence and he said to the judge, "But I don't believe in the electric chair," it didn't change reality.
He politely listened, and said, "Well, I'd better board the plane." He reached out his hand, shook mine and said, "My name is Pat." I told him my name, watched him board, and prayed that he would read the literature that he still held in his hand . . . and that he would have the intelligence to believe the words of warning.
Additional Relevant Information
* What about the issue of suffering? Doesn't this prove that there is no God and that we are on our own? Answer
* SUFFERING - Why does God allow innocent people to suffer? Answer
* What kind of world would you create? Answer
* The Origin of bad - How did bad things come about? Answer
* If God knows I am HURTING, why doesn't He help me? Answer
* Does God feel our pain? Answer
* I am perfectly content as a non-Christian
* Why the Atheist doesn't exist
A skeptic states...
"I am perfectly content as a non-Christian. I do not believe in an afterlife and would never consider a religion so restrictive and exclusive as Christianity anyway."
Answer:
You are content as you are -- fair enough. If contentment is what you are after, the Christian faith may not have much to say to you for a while. But lots of things that bring contentment are not true. Would you be willing to consider something if it disturbed your contentment, but might actually be true?
How do you know that there is no conscious existence after death? The main reason that people claim to not believe in an afterlife is that they think that the idea is a naive wish-fulfillment in the face of the fear of death.
But disbelief in an afterlife could have the same intellectual status. It could be the hopeful wish that there might be no accountability to anyone after we die, and the hope that there is no intrusive authority in our lives before that time.
Christian exclusiveness starts with the idea that the Gospel of Christ is true in a way that will exclude some other claims to truth. Is this so arrogant? Everybody in the world who has any religious or metaphysical convictions believes that the majority of people in the world are wrong about their religious and metaphysical convictions.
For example, you exclude my convictions. But that's okay. We can talk about it much better knowing where we both stand -- two absolutists having a civil discussion.
Author: Ray Comfort |
| dove
User ID: 486830
8/19/2008 5:00 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
There can be no such things as an atheist. This is why: Let's imagine that you are a professing atheist. Here are two questions for you to answer: First, do you know the combined weight of all the sand on all the beaches of Hawaii? We can safely assume that you don't. This brings us to the second question: Do you know how many hairs are on the back of a fully-grown male Tibetan yak? Probably not. It is therefore reasonable to conclude that there are some things that you don't know. It is important to ask these questions because there are some people who think they know everything.
Let's say that you know an incredible one percent of all the knowledge in the universe. To know 100 percent, you would have to know everything. There wouldn't be a rock in the universe that you would not be intimately familiar with, or a grain of sand that you would not be aware of. You would know everything that has happened in history, from that which is common knowledge to the minor details of the secret love life of Napoleon's great-grandmother's black cat's fleas. You would know every hair of every head, and every thought of every heart. All history would be laid out before you, because you would be omniscient (all-knowing).
Bear in mind that one of the greatest scientists who ever lived, Thomas Edison, said, "We do not know a millionth of one percent about anything." Let me repeat: Let's say that you have an incredible one percent of all the knowledge in the universe. Would it be possible, in the ninety-nine percent of the knowledge that you haven't yet come across, that there might be ample evidence to prove the existence of God? If you are reasonable, you will be forced to admit that it is possible. Somewhere, in the knowledge you haven't yet discovered, there could be enough evidence to prove that God does exist.
Gold in China. Illustration copyrighted.Let's look at the same thought from another angle. If I were to make an absolute statement such as, "There is no gold in China," what is needed for that statement to be proven true? I need absolute or total knowledge. I need to have information that there is no gold in any rock, in any river, in the ground, in any store, in any ring, or in any mouth (gold filling) in China. If there is one speck of gold in China, then my statement is false and I have no basis for it. I need absolute knowledge before I can make an absolute statement of that nature. Conversely, for me to say, "There is gold in China," I don't need to have all knowledge. I just need to have seen a speck of gold in the country, and the statement is then true.
To say categorically, "There is no God," is to make an absolute statement. For the statement to be true, I must know for certain that there is no God in the entire universe. No human being has all knowledge. Therefore, none of us is able to truthfully make this assertion.
If you insist upon disbelief in God, what you must say is, "Having the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God." Owing to a lack of knowledge on your part, you don't know if God exists. So, in the strict sense of the word, you cannot be an atheist. The only true qualifier for the title is the One who has absolute knowledge, and why on earth would God want to deny His own existence?
The professing atheist is what is commonly known as an "agnostic" - one who claims he "doesn't know" if God exists. It is interesting to note that the Latin equivalent for the Greek word is "ignoramus." The Bible tells us that this ignorance is "willful" (Psalm 10:4). It's not that a person can't find God, but that he won't. It has been rightly said that the "atheist" can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman. He knows that if he admits that there is a God, he is admitting that he is ultimately responsible to Him. This is not a pleasant thought for some.
It is said that Mussolini (the Italian dictator), once stood on a pinnacle and cried, "God, if you are there, strike me dead!" When God didn't immediately bow to his dictates, Mussolini then concluded that there was no God. However, his prayer was answered some time later.
(Excerpted from God Doesn't Believe in Atheists by Ray Comfort) |
| OneAngryMom
User ID: 300939
8/19/2008 6:13 PM
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OP
I DARE you to go back through history just a few years and see all of the opinions that GORBACHEV was the anti-christ! It's amazing what individuals like yourself can "pull together out of thin air" to prove their point. At the end of the day, it's groundless and paranoid speculation. My advise is to get a different hobby....and MAYBE a LIFE! Don't you have better things to do? Quoting: OneAngryMom |
| dove
User ID: 486830
8/19/2008 7:01 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
ok, I know this is off topic a bit, but, why the anger. Regardless of what people may think of Christians personally Christianity's message is simple, we are all imperfect and because of that will always fall short of God's standards, sooooo God sent His son to pay the price of all our transgressions, past, present and future, and to receive this pardon one must merely ask, and while God would prefer we could then live up to his standard He knows that is just not in our nature, saved or not, that is why His forgiveness is absolute! Thusly once saved always saved even if we continue to live in wickedness, He only asks that we repent. Now God gave us free will, so He will not force us to repent we must want to on our own. But God loves us all, believers or not and He knows it was because of the trickery of Satan that evil came into the world so He also promises that Satan's days are numbered and soon He will abolished evil from the world entirely. The only reason He has not done so yet is because He is trying to give us all every opportunity He can to repent. But whether you believe or not, God says in Revelation that we know the day is soon when the world is so wicked and troubled that to allow it to continue much longer "no one would survive." And the world continues to become more and more troubled because Satan knows his days are numbers and he is increasingly stepping up his efforts to take all joy and hope away from us so that we will have no faith left and will not repent.
Ok, not an entirely pleasant scenario, but again, why the anger? God knows repenting will not make us better people, believers are not better people, simply forgiven and anyone can be forgiven, to strings attached. Just ask and "ye shall receive." And after one repents, regardless of how you live afterward, you are guaranteed a place in Heaven!
That is simply what Christianity is all about, not how to be a better person, although the Bible certainly gives guideline, but instead the message of Christianity is simply one of love, mercy and forgiveness and eventual paradise! Some of the greatest prophets and apostles in the Bible were often very imperfect and disobedient.
Now, before you instinctively react in ridicule and anger, ask sincerely ask that you read what I have just written once more and then tell me what part of what I have actually said and not what you may have heard hypocrites and hate-mongers say (and yes I know, many Christians fall into those very categories). Please tell me, specifically, angers you about the above.
Hell was not mean for man, it was made for Satan and his fallen angels, but God will not force us to repent if we refuse to, He is not a dictator but know that He loves each and every one of us, adulterers, cheats, murderers, believers, non-believers, black, white, Buddhist, Muslim,Taoist, Shintoist, Jew, conservative, liberal, communist, gay, straigh, bi and transgendered...every possible category you can place an individual in, me, you! Why does the idea that God loves you make you angry? I am not trying to be sardonic I am truly so confused with such reactions and how often it is expressed so vile and offensively my mind is boggled.
Thanks for letting me "vent" but I am sincerely hoping someone- specifically a non-believer can answer me as genuinely and respectfully as I have asked.
Thank you :) |
| Magnum PI
User ID: 458268
8/19/2008 10:38 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
you folks who think Obama is the anti christ are foolish..
If its anyone in the world its Vladmir Putin and he's lurking around waiting for the big strike. |
| dove
User ID: 486830
8/20/2008 12:36 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Oh I believe Putin to indeed have a role in the end times as revealed in the Bible but he is the Kingdom of the North described in Ezek 38:6/15; Ezek 38:8-16; Ezek 39:12 who is reawakening with the intention of asserting its might as a world power superior even to the West and sets sights on controlling the middle east thus the world's oil. (In the Bible Russia is referred to by its' ancient name of Rosh)
The Bible is specific regarding with "kingdom" the Antichrist rules over. Rev 13.1. He will be a gentile from the west and rule over a union of lesser western "kingdoms" (NATO? EU? NAFTA?) harking bark to the Roman Empire at its' peek. Leading up to World War Three (which will kill 1/3 of all of mankind when China with an army of 200 million releases its' nuclear arsenal Rev. 9, 13-19, 16:12) China is a rapidly emerging superpower but has very little in way of oil resources and too has its' eyes on the middle east. The Bible says that this massive and mighty "Oriental Kingdom" will cross by land to Israel. And you can google to see for yourself including the recent completion of a road from China to Pakistan through the Himalayas.
Then, as if the middle east didn't have enough problems the "kingdom of the south" meaning Egypt (Daniel 6, 9, 11, 14...)
in union with various Arabic and African nations will threaten to encroach on Israel at this same time. (Daniel 11:43) Which will force Israel into an uneasy pact with the west believing the Antichrist is one of its' few supporters but soon afterward the Antichrist will reveal that he is no "friend" of Israel. (Isa 28:15, Danial 9)
Israel has already thwarted Egyptian aggression three time in recent history: 1948, 1956, 1967 and one of the signs of the coming rapture and tribulation is found in the books of Daniel, Matthew and Revelation. One condition that the Bible tells us MUST be met before Christs' return is the return of Israel after 2000 years and her people who where "scattered" across the earth AND Jerusalem reclaimed from Palestine. Those too have not long ago come to pass. In fact the Bible says that the generation that is alive to witness the return of Israel AND the retaking of Jerusalem will be the same generation of the end times. And to get an idea of how quickly the time is approaching I was not alive/yet born to see the return of Israel/retake of Jerusalem that was my parents generation, the Baby Boomers! And we know they ain't gettin' any younger :)
Just a quick aside referring again back to the long held animosity between Israel and Egypt (haven't we all seen Heston as Moses?) But both the people of Egypt and Israel descend from the same prophet Abraham. Issac was his legitimate son with wife Sarah from whom Israel hails while his "bastard" half brother Ismael was the result of Abraham sleeping with his wife's servant Hagar and not only was Ismael the ancestor of Egypt but Islam as well.
Hasn't anyone ever wondered at how everything so often comes back to the middle east and the ancient feuds between these ancient civilizations and they all figure so heavily in the Bible. But even in the secular world, politically, economically, the massive oil reserves AND how odd that just about everyone HATES the JEWS.
I'd also like to go off topic for a moment and comment on Bill Maher's assertion that non religious people are more moral, respect animals...etc. Hitler was and atheist AND a vegetarian. check the history books, and boy did he have an axe to grind with the Jews!
I know fair well that the vast majority of people on this forum will read my posts and dismiss me as "crazy" or "mentally ill" as Maher seems to believe. That's o.k. I am merely posting in the hopes that those of you left behind after the rapture will know what to expect because the Bible is quite clear that even after the rapture it is not to late to repent, however you will suffer for your late repentance having to live through the tribulation. And my hope is that if only a few of you will think back to what I and others had warned you will come back to these blogs, forums etc to know what the Bible really says so you won't have to try to waste time searching through all the corrupted "interpretations" of Christianity because the tribulations will only be 7 years so you won't have much time especially considering so many have never even cracked the spine of a Bible let alone read it for themselves.
And hey, let's say I am crazy and the is no coming return of Christ look at it this way haven't you been entertained? So much more the fool am I. But, what if I AM right (who IS to really say) you just might be thankful for information like this after all. People like me do not say what we do in judgment or some crazy idea of superiority, I know my faults and there are PLENTY of them, we are merely sounding the alarm after all, what kind of neighbor would sit comfortable in their own home looking out the window in the wee hours and watch their neighbors home burn down while they slept inside and do nothing? Now THAT would be truly evil!
(And again forgive me for my spelling and grammar, it is frustrating for me as I have been experiencing problems with recall due to MS I USED to be a really good English student, really :) Off, topic again, How are you supposed to find the spelling of a word using the dictionary IF YOU CAN'T SPELL IT?! Argh! |
| 293011
User ID: 488412
8/20/2008 9:30 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Obama may very well be the anti-christ. No one before has been identified as such and he does meet much of what revelations says. He came out of no where and became popular too very fast. There is no substance to him or his abilities. If he does get the presidency, please beware.
The man who says he has proof may well be on the right track. It is erie that Christians all picked up on him as the anti-christ. All have a gut level feeling and that is not frequent or normal. Something is up here. Listen to your hearts and instinct and beware and observant. |
| dove
User ID: 486830
8/20/2008 10:55 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Ok, I'm back, but I have been watching, and partaking in, debates on this subject on the following blog: [link to www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com]
And I'd like to share my recent post here. They are rather "long winded" so as not to overwhelm I have tried to visually break them p.
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Ok. This is something that just came to me moments ago, I have just finished watching McCain Revealed on CNN and am still watching Obama Revealed. I have already learned a lot regarding both men I did not previously know.
My observation is this and will most likely make NO sense to people that are not religious or familiar enough with the Bible etc. But for those who might get a sense of what I am saying here it is.
One of the defining characteristic of the Antichrist is that he is part of a bigger picture. Many folks place him as the mastermind of the coming Tribulation. In fact he is merely a servant. Satan loves to think himself rather clever and often works in ways that are dark/demonic counterfeits of Gods plan. The Antichrist is to be the demonic counterfeit counterpart to Christ. Yet to be revealed, at least to me, will be the false prophet who will serve the Antichrist and is the demonic counterfeit counterpart of the Holy Spirit. And of course, Satan has arrogantly placed himself as the counterfeit counterpart to God himself thus forming a demonic unHoly Trinity in opposition to the true Holy Trinity.
Following this model counterfeit comparisons are starting to emerge in Obama's live in comparison to Jesus.
1. Jesus was miraculously conceived by the virgin Mary. Obama's mother, I just learned, was already three months pregnant when she eloped with Obama's birth father.
2. Joseph was Jesus' "adoptive" earthly father and raise Jesus on behalf of God and stayed faithful to Mary even though Jesus was not his biological son. Obama was abandoned by his biological father who also abandoned his wife. Thus Obama eventually found himself with an adoptive father, not of divine planning, but as the result of a failed marriage and a broken home.
3. Biblically speaking, Obama was conceived out of sin while Jesus' was blameless and his mother pure.
4. While Obama definitely has his enemies they his (earthly) supporters are far more powerful. In contrast, Jesus had many loyal followers but his radical ideas attracted (earthly) enemies that were (terrestrially) far more powerful.
There were, mere moments ago, a few other comparisons I wanted to make but as I am still watching "Obama Revealed" they have left me.
Perhaps other people have made similar contrasts? Also, I'd really like to commend people hear for being respectful in this conversation. Most other "forums" on this subject cannot make the same claim. Thanks
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For those who are skeptical and make comments like, "If he where the Antichrist, wouldn't it be obvious?"
I ask you, IF Satan is real and there will be an Antichrist, do you really expect the Antichrist to walk onto the political stage and into the global spotlight and actually introduce himself as such, all the while wearing a button on his lapel that reads "Satan is my homeboy" ?
And if he DID, regardless if true or not, even those who didn't believe in God would not vote for him because they would seriously doubt his sanity!
One of Canada's most notorious killers, Paul Benardo and his ex-wife Karla Homolka went about their merry way abducting, sexually assaulting, torturing and eventually murdering two young schoolgirls ALL the while videotapping many of their sick deeds. AND Paul also turned out to also be the infamous "Scarborough Rapist" AND due to a "deal with the Devil" the prosecution made with Karla in order to nail Paul but unfortunately, this was before they started to even suspect that Karla's younger sisters sudden and unexpected death was the result of Karla drugging her own sister and handing her over to Paul for the same demonic purpose as his other victims. AND, the prosecution was not yet aware that video evidence existed until too late because Paul's first lawyer was SENT by Paul, while he was in jail, to retrieve the tapes and keep them secret.
Now I go into such detail to highlight their shear evil, for if that is not evil I do not know what is. AND to this day, neither has shown any sincere evidence (if any at all) of any remorse. Yet one of the reasons the were able to stay off the radar for so long is that THEY were very attractive, young, energetic, successful, fun, outgoing, playful, popular etc. etc. They were so NORMAL; there where NONE of the stereotypical news footage of neighbors and co-workers saying things like
"oh I don't know, seemed nice enough. Quiet though, keep mostly to themselves...."
So sorry folks, if you are expecting evil, not ignorance like racism, but true evil to be open and forthright with their true intentions, maybe you should recheck your logic. Molesters, rapist and serial killers rather keep their motives to themselves.
And while I will concede that some people who commit violent crimes may suffer from mental illness, most experts are able to distinguish those from the rest. I am sorry, but if, as your committing your crimes you take great care to conceal your acts, cover up evidence you know you are doing wrong and thus made a decision to be evil. The mentally ill do not fear getting caught because they are unable to make the connection to wrongdoing/lack empathy with their victims.
Accusations against past politicians like Nixon, Reagan are easily dismissed because they were merely corrupt or unpopular and Putin today is too easily dismissed because his intentions are far too obvious.
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(forgive me, I feel I am monopolizing this site sometimes) but in reaction to a lot of anti-American sentiment or doubts in regards to the integrity or mental faculties of Americans I can HONESTLY say, as a very proud Canadian there is NO OTHER NATION on earth I would even consider sharing the world's longest undefended boarder with than America! Can all of you who are not Canadian OR American say the same about your neighbors? Sure, they're not perfect, neither is Canada, but they are good people who I believe their greatest fault is not ambition but being too idealistic. So idealistic that it is even evident in founding documents like the Declaration of Independence and their Constitution with lofty promises like "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". The Canadian constitution merely promises "responsible government" |
| Npt
User ID: 488973
8/21/2008 8:03 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
How is possible that people loose their time discussing such stupidity?
Say that Obama is the antichrist only shows how some people are ignorant and narrow mind.
These are dirty arguments to convince analphabetic people to vote in a old man that has nothing new to bring to the world. Neither the peace. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 489425
8/22/2008 6:50 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
How is possible that people loose their time discussing such stupidity?
Say that Obama is the antichrist only shows how some people are ignorant and narrow mind.
These are dirty arguments to convince analphabetic people to vote in a old man that has nothing new to bring to the world. Neither the peace. Quoting: Npt 488973
Ok genius, what the hell does Obama have to bring to the table besides the empty word Change. The man has associated himself around some of the most anti American people ever. He flip flops constantly. He can't speak worth a shit without a telepromtor. You liberals are voting for him because of his ethnicity and you feel guilty for slavery. Let me tell you something jackass, 99.9% of people living in this country today had nothing to do with the slave trade. Obamas campain has been based on race, don't ever forget it. This guy had only been Senator for a year and a half before running for president. This guy has the shortest political track record than any of the previous presidential candidates.
McCain is the biggest moron the Republican party ever nominated, you'll get no argument from me on that. But at least he has a track record, Obama has none.
Some people think he might be the antichrist because of the similarities in the bible. You and the rest of liberals obviously hate the bible and wish all bibles would be burned. You liberls want no rules or disipline to live by. You assholes want to live with the belief that if it feels good do it. You hardcore liberals have no commonsense in your belief system and have done more damage to this country than any terrorist could ever do. And if you think George Bush is a conservative Republican than your a bigger retard than you appear to be. Bush is as liberal as Bill Clinton was. You just hate him because he has an R stamped next to his name.
You shit heads need to look at the policies not the titles. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 250177 (OP)
8/22/2008 6:56 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
mods, i am the author of this thread. Please delete it. I no longer hold to this view and consider it most blasphemous.
thank u |
| OBOMINATION
User ID: 490680
8/25/2008 5:53 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
I agree! It does appear as if Obama is the Antichrist. He came out of nowhere. If this man does get to be president..him and his Nation Islam will rule like Hitler. People need to stand together and put a stop to this man who will not wear the American flag, took the flag off his plane and replaced it with his Islamic Logo before it is too late. The world has never seen such perilous times as it will if he becomes president of the US. |
| OBOMINATION
User ID: 490680
8/25/2008 5:59 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
In 1998, during my first semester in college a proffessor brought in a group of Louis Farakahn church members or followers. These people told us point blank "When we get one of our own in as president of the United States, we are not going to kill whites because their white...but because their evil". Look up the Nation of Islam and read about Mr. Obama and his connection to his church and Louis Farakahn. You can then see for yourself....the connections are there. These people truly are very racist. |
| OBOMINATION
User ID: 490680
8/25/2008 6:01 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
In 1998, during my first semester in college a proffessor brought in a group of Louis Farakahn church members or followers. These people told us point blank "When we get one of our own in as president of the United States, we are not going to kill whites because their white...but because their evil". Look up the Nation of Islam and read about Mr. Obama and his connection to his church and Louis Farakahn. You can then see for yourself....the connections are there. These people truly are very racist. |
| Average Joe
User ID: 490934
8/25/2008 4:39 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
In 1998, during my first semester in college a proffessor brought in a group of Louis Farakahn church members or followers. These people told us point blank "When we get one of our own in as president of the United States, we are not going to kill whites because their white...but because their evil". Look up the Nation of Islam and read about Mr. Obama and his connection to his church and Louis Farakahn. You can then see for yourself....the connections are there. These people truly are very racist. Quoting: OBOMINATION 490680
I'm happy to see that some of the younger people can see through the B.S. Obama is an Afrolennonist. His whole campain has been based on race not substance. It's not hard to figure out what Obama's beliefs are if we look at all the people he has surrounded himself with.
Regardless if Obama is the antichrist or not it sickens me how the media and ignorant Americans can flock to this man and his empty words of change. If change was suppose to be his centerpiece then why the hell did he pic Biden as his V.P. Biden has been Senator a couple years longer than McCain. Biden is Washington.
No white man could ever go as far as Obama has with as little political background as he has. If Obama isn't the Antichrist we sure can see how it's all going to happen can't we? |
| sixpence worth
User ID: 488372
8/25/2008 8:35 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Nonsensical rhetoric is one thing; Obamas soggy economics is another, writes GEORGE WILL ( George Will is in the Washington Post Writers Group C 2008)
Quote " DONT LAUGH,BUT BARACK BELIEVES THIS STUFF"
'Barack Obama has made his economic thinking excruciatingly clear, so it also is clear that his runnimg mate should have been not Joseph Biden, but Rumplestilskin.He spun straw into gold, a skill an Obama administration will need
in order to fulfil its fairy-tale promises." End of quote
I for one get really disallusioned at the promises and idealistic rhetoric of politicians. They promise a new world and think that by waving a magic wand they can bring it all about. How do you turn a huge industrial complex around inside a few years - a system that has been entrenched in greed and power for decades. Sorry I dont see it happening! Its going to take something else to halt this
downward spiralling world decay. Just my take! |
| ali
User ID: 491132
8/25/2008 11:40 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
fuck, all blacks already think they own the world and still with that shit attitude of slavery. Fuck slavery. Communist people killed my family and took our home away. I don't go out on the street saying anything or demanding stuff because of this. Imagine what will happen with Obama comes out as president. |
| ankoma
User ID: 491769
8/26/2008 11:10 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Barak is not the anti- christ, because there is and never will be, because these are methpors by people living years ago. The bible records 6,000 years of history, it's a known fact that man has been here for millions of years. you all need to get a life. even when noah got on the boat he didn't take the dinsaurs, what about them. You guys are idiots. The bible is about morals, the faith of abraham, the law of moses and the application of faith and law in the teachings of Yeshua ben Yosef, whom someone decided to change his name to(Jesus) 300 years after his death!
I'm not christian so I'm not sure he's the anti-christ but whatever the hell he is, Barack Obama give me the creeps
AMEN , errrr I mean , yea, what he said |
| Your Neighbor
User ID: 491798
8/27/2008 12:09 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
why do you all fight? is there no love left in your hearts? open your hearts to the Lord. accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and the Word of God will grant you all the wisdom you all appear to seek. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 491859
8/27/2008 3:27 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Obama is actually "from" Hawaii. He moved to Chicago after law school. Anybody know the zip code for Maui? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 204901
Fag The Bible Said That The Devil Will Come Out Of The Sea And Maui Was Under the Sea |
| just a guy
User ID: 383050
8/27/2008 11:25 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Obama Messiah to preach Er speak in a stadium for 75,000 people.
If a miracle occurs then we will know.
That's prophecy ! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 383050
8/27/2008 11:28 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Obama Messiah to preach Er speak in a stadium for 75,000 people.
If a miracle occurs then we will know.
That's prophecy ! Quoting: just a guy 383050
Sorry I forgot to add the stage is supposed to be a Greek Temple? Greek God or Anti Christ ? For an Acorn Street Activest he sure has came a long way with little to go with it. |
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