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| Nero
User ID: 545213
11/6/2008 10:02 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Someday you all we see...you'll see what God has planned, and when you're in hell burning just remember I'm in Heaven because I accept Christ, I go to Church, I try my best to please God...It breaks my heart to hear some of you talk about there isn't a God...or things like that...it hurts to know God created you but you don't acknowledge that all you all do is sit around and act like we just came out of nowhere!
YHVH is not the true creator, and there really isn't a hell!!
You have wasted your mind in church grasshopper!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Let the truth be told... though the heavens fall!
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.
Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways...
I am not bound by the laws of original sin.. I am one of the other people..
[ link to www.paganlibrary.com]
Thank you! Good to see there's another right-thinking Christinan (Gnostic) on here.
By the way, the original post promised proof. Many have asked for this proof and it has not been forthcoming. Maybe the original poster was full of shit. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545221
11/6/2008 10:24 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
...look I don't like Obama either and I'm a Christian, but I highly doubt he is the anti-Christ. And how anyone can have proof that he is is beyond me considering the Book of Revelation does not have a list of ways to identify the anti-Christ. So seriously. Stop saying it. It is people like the OP who make Christians look retarded. |
| Nero
User ID: 545213
11/6/2008 10:25 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
God doesn't give a flying fuck about you.
uhm.....wrong.
God does care.
He cares for
everyone.
kthanksbye.
Then why did he disappoint Scared? Scared doesn't seem to understand his place in the universe, otherwise he wouldn't be disappointed (or scared).
he didn't disappoint me himself i'm just disappointed Obama is prez so get it right before you start saying God disappointed because God would never disappoint me Quoting: Scared
You stated that you were disappointed with God's decision. Being omniscient, God must have known that this would be a disappointment to you. That was why I concluded that God does not give a flying fuck about you, although it would be more proper to say that He doesn't give a flying fuck about what you want. However, it seems that if he REALLY cared about you, he'd take into consideration what a good God-fearing Christian such as yourself wanted. As I mentioned before,
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 18:19) Maybe you weren't able to get anyone to pray with you for McCain? I'm not surprised that you don't have any friends.
By the way, a major part of the conjecture (no proof has been given) regarding Obama= Antichrist here is from NOI nonsense, which is horseshit hilarity on a level with the Book of Mormon, several notches below the horseshit of the
Holy Bible. It's been said before, but it's worth pointing out again. |
| Nero
User ID: 545213
11/6/2008 10:28 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Okay - so everyone has a right to their opinion - and this thread was started to discuss the ...coincidences...that may indicate this man is the AC.
I have stumbled upon something interesting - decide yourself if you want to acknowledge it or not, this is your choice...
But if I recal - the book of Rev indicates something about the AC...and how he is ushered in on a white horse (something along those lines, you get the point...)
This is just kind of..interesting.
[ link to images.google.com]
I didn't see Obama on that horse. |
| Nero
User ID: 545213
11/6/2008 10:31 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Yes, yes...Christ will come back someday...and if that day be soon, I pray some of you get your lives on the right track. Quoting: Scared
Christ was supposed to come back while some of his apostles were still alive. At least that's what Jesus said. I'm beginning to think that he's not coming back after all.
And that there's no such as an Antichrist.
And that the mixture of politics, religious belief, and ignorance can be endlessly amusing, as witnessed by this admittedly lunatic fringe thread. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 10:51 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
And that the mixture of politics, religious belief, and ignorance can be endlessly amusing, as witnessed by this admittedly lunatic fringe thread. Quoting: Nero 545213
NERO!!!WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? what have you done to get these people so riled up? i can't even leave to go jam with the band for a few hours without coming back and finding things in turmoil....HOWEVER, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU MANAGED TO GET A FEW TIDBITS OF SENSE TO FLOAT AROUND IN HERE,,,,THANKS,,, GOOD JOB! PIE FOR YOU, or at least some veronikky cake.......say, just what is the difference between sarah palins...well i can't say it but i'm human, i'm curious and i do have a warped sense of humor. so ...tell
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:02 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Yes, yes...Christ will come back someday...and if that day be soon, I pray some of you get your lives on the right track. Quoting: Scared
hey scared, don't stop talking, some here want to know the little bits of pertinent info you can divulge to us . wisdom is not gained in a lump, but built of little pebbles gathered together and shaped,,,,, and why do you identify yourself as scared? you do not seem to have a fear of speaking your mind and you are certainly unashamed of Christ......a true blessing and strength in itself.
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| What Now?
User ID: 545253
11/6/2008 11:05 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Yes, yes...Christ will come back someday...and if that day be soon, I pray some of you get your lives on the right track.
Quoting: Scared
So what do you suggest I do to get my life back on track? |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:07 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Yes, yes...Christ will come back someday...and if that day be soon, I pray some of you get your lives on the right track.
Quoting: Scared
So what do you suggest I do to get my life back on track? Quoting: What Now? 545253
first, are you serious?
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| What Now?
User ID: 545253
11/6/2008 11:10 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Yes, I'm serious. IF the end is coming I want to make sure i have my life straight. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:13 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
ok, first off, the end is coming, nobody knows when, but even from a non christian, philosophical point of view, "all good things got to come to an end" i don't think its going to be today or next year
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:14 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
next, are you christian oriented?
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:16 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
third, do you have an email address that i can communicate to you through? i await an answer on this one....
www.bikerchurch.com,,,,,check out our website when you get a chance
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| What Now?
User ID: 545253
11/6/2008 11:18 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Yes, yes...Christ will come back someday...and if that day be soon, I pray some of you get your lives on the right track.
Quoting: Scared
So what do you suggest I do to get my life back on track?
first, are you serious? Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
So what's wrong with what i'm asking? The end is coming for all of us, at one point or another. you might get struck tomorrow and die will you be ready to face your judgement? If you are read then i'd like to know how you got be ready so that i can be ready too. I believe that when the end does come we will be judged by God, we just don't know when the end will be. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:27 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
email me at teamxmotocross@bellsouth.com i would rather not clog this forum with chat, and i feel your request is worthy of my help. IT IS NOT GODS DESIRE TO LOSE EVEN ONE SOUL i will probably pick up a lot of ridicule from others on this forum who like to heckle, but thats my job. believe me, i've ridden through a goodly portion of hell in my life and i ain't skeered to help keep someone else from it
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545253
11/6/2008 11:32 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
third, do you have an email address that i can communicate to you through? i await an answer on this one....
www.bikerchurch.com,,,,,check out our website when you get a chance Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
How do i send you my e-mail without everyone seeing it?
I was born into a Roman Catholic faith but i haven't been practicing my faith the way i should be. As i get older ( in my 20's) i'm realizing the profound importance of being a practicing believer. I'm just confused about where i should go to practice my belief. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 541200
11/6/2008 11:35 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
third, do you have an email address that i can communicate to you through? i await an answer on this one....
www.bikerchurch.com,,,,,check out our website when you get a chance
How do i send you my e-mail without everyone seeing it?
I was born into a Roman Catholic faith but i haven't been practicing my faith the way i should be. As i get older ( in my 20's) i'm realizing the profound importance of being a practicing believer. I'm just confused about where i should go to practice my belief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545253
Is there a Non Denominational church near you? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 541200
11/6/2008 11:36 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
email me at teamxmotocross@bellsouth.com i would rather not clog this forum with chat, and i feel your request is worthy of my help. IT IS NOT GODS DESIRE TO LOSE EVEN ONE SOUL i will probably pick up a lot of ridicule from others on this forum who like to heckle, but thats my job. believe me, i've ridden through a goodly portion of hell in my life and i ain't skeered to help keep someone else from it Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
NO YOU WONT! Were with you brother! help the guy out! |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:45 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
again i say, email me at "teamxmotocross@bellsouth.net" any brother or sister who has a spiritual need, i am willing to do daddys work. and check out our website, www.bikerchurch.com
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:47 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
third, do you have an email address that i can communicate to you through? i await an answer on this one....
www.bikerchurch.com,,,,,check out our website when you get a chance
How do i send you my e-mail without everyone seeing it?
I was born into a Roman Catholic faith but i haven't been practicing my faith the way i should be. As i get older ( in my 20's) i'm realizing the profound importance of being a practicing believer. I'm just confused about where i should go to practice my belief. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545253
email me your address is safe with me
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:49 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
teamxmotocross@bellsouth.com
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 539955
11/6/2008 11:51 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
We inhabit the place of exile of Satan.
Insane dwells among thee. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480936
11/6/2008 11:53 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
When it comes to 60606 remember zero is not a number, therefore the number of his zip is 666!
And how do you figure that zero is not a number, jeenyus?
Further, I suppose the numeral "60" represents the same number to you as the numeral "6"? In that case, I'll gladly give you 8 dollars in exchange for you giving me 60 dollars. It seems that you'll be two dollars ahead by your way of thinking. Quoting: Nero 543870
Look it up! You stupid or something? Too dumb to talk to! |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/6/2008 11:58 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
We inhabit the place of exile of Satan.
Insane dwells among thee. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 539955
uh, shouldn't that be "insanity dwells...."?
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| Pleeb
User ID: 514538
11/6/2008 11:59 PM
 | | BiggSiss
User ID: 545276
11/7/2008 12:00 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
You can all believe whatever you want, but I told people when this campaign first started nearly 2 years ago that Obama would be the next president. Why? There is absolutely no logical reason he should be. He has hypnotized millions of people, making them his followers and they don't even know why. OBAMA IS THE "ANTI-CHRIST" OF "BEAST" or whatever you want to label him. How will he accomplish the things he's supposed to do? The same way Satan has turned billions of people in this world into evil, selfish, murdering, lying, whoring, followers of his. Through brain-washing and convincing them that good is evil and evil is good. The Lord says "If ye are prepared, ye need not fear" Those who do not recognize what's happening will be those who are not prepared. The anti christ is only mentioned 4 times in the Bible(as far as I have found). All in the Book of John. All mentioning the anti christ as anyone and everyone who denies Christ and God.
The Beast mentioned in the Book of Revelations is the one who will "take over the world" basiclly. He will be fatally wounded and saved by the second "beast". The second beast will worship the first beast and make everyone else do the same. The 1st Beast will rule for 42 months. He will come promising peace and hope. People will flock to him. They will all think he is amazing. He will be very charming and charismatic.
I don't know if Obama is the Beast or not. I do find it scary that so many are following him. He is filling entire arenas. Politically speaking we are a very traditional country. He has almost no political record that he speaks about. Every time I watch him he creeps me out, which is what got me checking into him. Just a really uneasy feeling. Every article I read about him contradicts the previous article so you have no idea who he is or what he stands for...other than pro-abortion (even parial birth abortion) and anti war. I find it odd that no one really mentions his ties with being muslim, his mother raised him (according to his own quote) to take part in all religions(the Bible mentions a "one world religion" when the Beast rules). Does anyone not find it odd that no one, not radical Christians or his opponents bring up anything negative about him? As soon as anyone tries Obama seems to get even more followers. Quoting: Aries 373610 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545277
11/7/2008 12:00 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
see Horus...Horus is Jesus...same guy...you will also find the same idiots saying the same things defending or attacking Horus and Jesus. Myths are funny that way. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/7/2008 12:01 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Yes, I'm serious. IF the end is coming I want to make sure i have my life straight. Quoting: What Now? 545253
are you still here? i'm waiting
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480936
11/7/2008 12:05 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
When it comes to 60606 remember zero is not a number, therefore the number of his zip is 666!
And how do you figure that zero is not a number, jeenyus?
Further, I suppose the numeral "60" represents the same number to you as the numeral "6"? In that case, I'll gladly give you 8 dollars in exchange for you giving me 60 dollars. It seems that you'll be two dollars ahead by your way of thinking. Quoting: Nero 543870
Here for all you math tards (Nero).
[link to mathforum.org]
Fucking idiots-I don't know why I waste my time-too fuckin stupid and uneducated to even start. Condescending dumbfucks! |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545241
11/7/2008 12:08 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
You can all believe whatever you want, but I told people when this campaign first started nearly 2 years ago that Obama would be the next president. Why? There is absolutely no logical reason he should be. He has hypnotized millions of people, making them his followers and they don't even know why. OBAMA IS THE "ANTI-CHRIST" OF "BEAST" or whatever you want to label him. How will he accomplish the things he's supposed to do? The same way Satan has turned billions of people in this world into evil, selfish, murdering, lying, whoring, followers of his. Through brain-washing and convincing them that good is evil and evil is good. The Lord says "If ye are prepared, ye need not fear" Those who do not recognize what's happening will be those who are not prepared.
The anti christ is only mentioned 4 times in the Bible(as far as I have found). All in the Book of John. All mentioning the anti christ as anyone and everyone who denies Christ and God. Quoting: BiggSiss 545276
here are some prophecies for you that describe the antichrist from the books of daniel and revelation
i hope this helps your spiritual journey
1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25
2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27
Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time.
3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8
This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44
4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8
5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelation 13:1-2
Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe.
6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25
7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelation 13:11-12
8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelation 17:8
More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government.
9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelation 17:14
10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelation 17:11
Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome
11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8
12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.
13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23
14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23
15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie.
16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelation 13:5
17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27
It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody.
18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36
20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31
24. He will plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain - Daniel 11:45
It would seem here that the Antichrist will setup small "fortifications" in between the sea and Jerusalem, to help keep control over things in distant areas away from the main offices.
25. He will have power to make war with the saints and to overcome them - Revelation 13:7
26. He will continue this war with the saints for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:21, 25
27. This time of Great Tribulation is launched upon the Earth by the antichrist at the Abomination of Desolation. - Matthew 24:15,21.
Up until this time, it would seem that he is a man of peace and not war. But now he shows his true colors. Perhaps is possessed by Satan himself at this point as well. Which would account for the false front being dropped at this time.
28. During this time, the antichrist will scatter the power of the holy people - Daniel 12:7
29. He will rule a mighty and strong kingdom - Daniel 7:7
30. He was given power over all kindreds, tongues and nations - Revelation 13:7
31. His kingdom will devour the whole earth - Daniel 7:23
32. He will have great military power that will stand behind him, to enforce his laws - Daniel 11:31
33. He will try to change times and laws; and they will be given into his power for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:25
34. He will give great honor to the God of forces, with gold, silver, jewels, etc - Daniel 11:38
35. He will prosper in everything that he does - Daniel 8:24
36. He will not regard the God of his fathers - Daniel 11:37
37. He will not regard the desire of women - Daniel 11:37
It is interesting to note here that most people think that he will be a homosexual, which could be. But rather I think that he will place limitations upon children being born. Similar to what is being done in China now. Why? Because it is the natural desire of a woman, that God has given to them, to be a mother. By not regarding this natural desire, he would cause a "forced" limit on the amount of children a woman was "allowed" to have.
38. The mark of the beast will be the amount of his name - Revelation 14:11
39. All that dwell upon the Earth will worship him, except those who's names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life - Revelation 15:2
40. He will have an image made after him - Revelation 15:2
This could also be in reference to his kingdom's logo or insignia. Much like the U.N. has a logo that every soldier on a U.N. mission must wear, there might also be a logo or insignia that his armies would have to wear
His coming will be after the workings of Satan - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
41. He will fight against Jesus Christ at Armageddon (and loose I might add!) - Revelation 17:14
42. He will stand against the Prince of princes - Daniel 8:25
43. The Lord will consume him with the spirit of his mouth (which is the Word of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
44. The Lord will destroy him with the brightness of his coming (which is his glory) - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
45. He will be cast alive into the lake of fire - Revelation 19:20
46. He will be tormented day and night for ever and ever - Revelation 20:10
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